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JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
7:04 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
#Braves pitcher Julio Teheran tossed six innings today for Licey in the DR, allowing just one hit with no walks and eight strikeouts.
Hopefully there were some scouts there other than Frank, Bruce, and Fredi.
Nowhere man
December 9th, 2012
7:05 pm
Fredi finally took a team to the playoffs so he probably thinks it was a good season. Of course he is still yet to win a playoff game.
JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
7:05 pm
Like maybe a couple from the D-Backs…
Luman Harris
December 9th, 2012
7:06 pm
Exactly, HooRah. By sucker’s logic, every team but one is filled with losers, every year.
HooRah
December 9th, 2012
7:11 pm
has nothing to do with Suckers stupid logic.
He is a poor player whom we could replace with a better one pretty cheaply
Deal with it Nowhere Man, he is not going anywhere as long as he keeps having winning seasons
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
7:25 pm
I am becoming more than okay with David Wilson…
richbrave
December 9th, 2012
7:46 pm
RGIII and Captain KIRK gettin’ it done in the DMV.
VaBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
7:47 pm
I just hope RG3 is ok… We lose him and I believe our playoffs hopes are gone. If its something serious he’d likely be out remainder of the season and it would affect him going forward in his career.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
7:50 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Mark Reynolds close to signing with #indians
ncbravesfan90
December 9th, 2012
7:51 pm
That must mean that Youk is going to sign with the Yankees if Reynolds is close to signing with the Indians.
Mark
December 9th, 2012
7:58 pm
Indians and Yankees will get what they deserve if they sign those 2 to big bucks.
At their age and skill set I’d go with Fancisco before I’d sign them if I were an owner. Reynolds strikes out so much he is liable to miss the dotted line when he signs and Youk is a has been that once was surrounded by guys that could hit which helped him.
These signings and the money are really getting depressing!!
Brava
December 9th, 2012
7:59 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
reynolds will play first base with #indians. was terrific at 1b for o’s last year.
Mark
December 9th, 2012
8:05 pm
According to what I just saw he hit 221 with 160 Ks. The K numbers are relatively low for him.
If he plays all year he’ll but 200 Ks for about the 3rd or 4th time and maybe hit his career average of abuot 230. All for 25 HRs.
richbrave
December 9th, 2012
8:06 pm
SOUTH OF THE BORDER
DOMINICA
LICEY TIGERS
3B JUAN FRANCISCO [.315 BA] 1-4, 1 SO.
JUAN continues his steady play.
RHSP JULIO TEHERAN [3.23 ERA] 6.0 IP, 1 H, zip R, 0 BB, 8 SO.
JULIO’s era is plummeting down faster than an express elevator coming from the 20th floor. Three peat superb outings in a row, and the one just before those three was solid. I think a light-bulb may have gone on down south.
ORIENTE STARS
LHRP DUSTY HUGHES [W 1-0, 0.00 ERA] 1.2 IP, 1 H, pristine.
DUSTY’s been unscathed in nine outings of limited work. That sounds spectacular, but really it isn’t. But an improvement for him over last year. 7.0 IP, 5 H, 3 BB, 1 SO.
VENEZUELA
CARACAS LIONS
RF JOSH KROEGER [.295 BA] 1-4, 1 RBI [13], 1 BB, 1 Outfield Assist.
ZULIA EAGLES
1B ERNESTO MEJIA [.309 BA] 1-3, 1 R, 1 2B [9], 1 BB.
GATTIS has now missed last five starts in a row. Only one pinch-hit appearance in those games.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
8:06 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
#indians planning to go with youngster lonnie chisenhall at 3b. so reynolds deal takes Youk off cleveland’s board
Brava
December 9th, 2012
8:17 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Youkilis out with #Indians due to Reynolds. #Yankees not only other option. #Mariners, #Dodgers also have shown interest. Maybe others too.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
8:19 pm
looking forward to seeing the Salsa dancer and the G-Men come to the Big Dome… should be a good game. And, the Falcons don’t lose back-to-back games, undefeated at home this season, lost just 5 home games I believe since 2008…
#RiseUp Prepare for the playoffs, guys. Giants will give us a good test.
Efrim
December 9th, 2012
8:26 pm
Glad to see Teheran has a strong stat line. First one in a while, so I have to imagine the stuff was good.
richbrave
December 9th, 2012
8:26 pm
It wouldn’t surprise me to see ALEX WOOD in ATLANTA mid-way through the 2014 campaign. I think the kid’s gonna’ be special. If he starts out in LYNCHBURG, I don’t think he’s more than four starts there, and off to PEARL RIVER.
2015
LH
MINOR
GILMARTIN
WOOD
RH
BEACHY
MEDLIN
TEHERAN
DELGADO
SPRUILL
SIMS
Nine starters? Where we gonna’ put everybody?
Between arm miseries and buckling under the pressure of ML play, I still see a minimum of six effective pitchers for the 2015 season.
And that’s with my main man HUDSON, and MAHOLM out of the picture. No wonder they moved HANSON and let JURRJENS go.
We’ve also picked up two power arms for the pen, LHRP JAIME last season, and RHRP WALDEN in trade for this season. If these two can control their stuff, they’ve bringing serious heat to the mound in the eighth. Both throw 95-98.
LHRP AVILAN has been very good down south this winter.
They offer Arb 3 to RHRP EOF this season, use him this year then let him go in FA next off-season, or in a mid-season trade for a need at the end of July.
As long as CRAIG KIMBREL’s arm doesn’t fall off, I’m thinking they offer a multi-year deal when he hits Arb 3. That’s one guy that as long as he’s as good as he is, you just can’t lose that type of closer.
Hey, unless he’s recently signed, MIKE GONZALEZ is available to replace CHAD DURBIN.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
8:28 pm
I hope that scouts from the Indians, Royals, and maybe Padres were in DR also… Choo, Gordon, and Gyorko all would look nice here. Maybe someone needs a 3B and will take Juan too…
Efrim
December 9th, 2012
8:30 pm
TOBF, you’re still just not smart saying things like trading six years of Julio Teheran for one year of Shin-Soo Choo. That’s really bonkers, man. Same with Jedd Gyorko.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
8:31 pm
Dan Connolly @danconnollysun
Confirming @JonHeymanCBS report, former Oriole Mark Reynolds has agreed to a 1-year, $6 million deal plus incentives w the Cleveland Indians
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
8:32 pm
If Wood wont be here at Rome next season, sure hope they send Sims here… wanna see him before likely leave the state.
Gotta know if my love for Sims over Wood is legit… maybe Im just biased to righties. I should go to Gwinnett to see Graham, but it’s on the wrong side of town for me… Rome is just 40mins away.
richbrave
December 9th, 2012
8:34 pm
98.62~
jeffrey d
December 9th, 2012
8:34 pm
looking forward to seeing the Salsa dancer and the G-Men come to the Big Dome… should be a good game
I’ll be there. It’ll be my first regular season Falcons game!
VaBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
8:36 pm
Well I admit I also said I’d trade Teheran for Choo, but after Julio’s recent success I change my opinion on that.
richbrave
December 9th, 2012
8:36 pm
TOBF:
I think SIMS will start in ROME.
You like Cuban food BTW?
jeffrey d
December 9th, 2012
8:38 pm
I’m not opposed to trading Teheran, but for me it’d have to be more than a year rental
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
8:39 pm
I may be wrong, Ef, wouldnt be the first time, unfortunately… I’m just not all that sold on him, especially compared to Delgado. I think RD will be better than Teheran.
Wood seems to have the stuff to be able to hold his own in Mississippi early, he’ll be dominate by mid-season. Could see him to Gwinnett for a start or two, hopefully makes it as a Sept. call-up. I think he’ll be competing for a roster spot by mid 2014. Just needs to work on the curve, but his fastball and change both seem pretty good already.
brian
December 9th, 2012
8:40 pm
MikeinFl is right. Braves are not going to give away Teheran for 1 year of anybody and they are right in not doing that. For Alex Gordon or Justin Upton type deal, of course Teheran is right to be included. Seeing this game tonight will only fortify the Baves brass’ opinion of Teheran as someone to hold onto
brian
December 9th, 2012
8:41 pm
RD is more polished by JT has a higher ceiling. I think they move Delgado
VaBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
8:41 pm
Also have to ask ourselves for example, if we did make a Julio for Choo swap, and ended up winning the world series with Choo having a great season on his contract year, and getting a draft pick when he leaves. Would that be worth 6 years of Teheran? Or how well would we have to do to for it to be worth it? Atleast the NLCS?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
8:46 pm
Hope you’re right sir… I’d love to see him. Likely these are my last days to ee the players and prospects live, wanna take advantage. Not really a fan of Cuban food, Mexican’s enough for me!
Teheran is worth it for Choo imo… premium player, and we likely will get a top40 pick. Gilmrtin or Spruill wouldnt be enough for the Tribe to move Choo. They can do better with having that topp40 pick themself.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
8:49 pm
All Choo needs to do is play to his career averages to be worth it… play well enough to leave us a draft pick. Should be able to at least win a playoff series though, maybe win the division
VaBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
8:55 pm
Choo is definitely a player that I view as someone who puts us right up there with the Nationals for the division. But 6 years of Teheran is hard to give away he’s still just 21 years old…
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
8:56 pm
Ive read that both Teheran and Delgado have #2 upside… but Teheran still struggles with his curve, was pretty bad at AAA. Likely to repeat for the third time, if he struggles, poof goes his trade value. RD has shown flashes of greatness at the MLB level. I’ll go with him, at least for now.
With Teheran’s last few starts though, I bet he’s be the #1 prospect over Graham whe the list comes out tomorrow. I’d swap them.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
9:02 pm
Put Choo in this lineup, we’ll score lots of runs. Easily he’d be our best OBP machine, and best masher of RHP… .307/.402/.514 I believe. Great guy to hit 3 vs RHP, leadoff vs. LHP. Or he can leadoff all the time, I dont care. Just he addition of Choo makes this lineup deadly scary, especially 1-5. If Mac and Uggla rebound, which they should,even better. Choo is about as perfect of a fit for us as possible.
Mark
December 9th, 2012
9:04 pm
We need a new rule:
No trading of power arms for 1 year or less rentals.
Remember if Dumpster had agreed to that rediculous trade we’d be minus Delgado, minus Dumpster and Medlin would have still started the wildcard game, we would have made errors, umpire still made rappy infield fly call and we’d lost.
jeffrey d
December 9th, 2012
9:08 pm
Ive read that both Teheran and Delgado have #2 upside
Gross
Heath
December 9th, 2012
9:16 pm
I’d take Choo, but not for Teheran.
Mark
December 9th, 2012
9:18 pm
Delgado and Tehran are gonna have to pitch for us soon when Huddy / Mahomie are gone because Lord knows we’ll never be able to afford a good free agent pitcher
jeffrey d
December 9th, 2012
9:20 pm
because Lord knows we’ll never be able to afford a good free agent pitcher
You mean like giving a free agent pitcher $15 million a year?
Efrim
December 9th, 2012
9:25 pm
Alex Wood looks a lot like Jonny Venters on the mound. Not really an athletic dude. I still think he can be a starter long term because from what I’ve read the changeup and curveball have promise to be at least average and that fastball is above average. We’ll see.
ugaaccountant
December 9th, 2012
9:26 pm
With our payroll, you don’t give a free agent pitcher a 15 M a year contract. A 28 year old outfielder, sure. But not a pitcher. We’ve read the character assasination on Greinke all day on here, i’d hate to see what we’d read about say a Dempster signing.
Efrim
December 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
The last three starts from Teheran help and is good to see, but come on, it’s a nothing sample. I’m not trading Teheran based on what he was 10 months ago and what he’s been since being signed, which was a very highly rated prospect. No arm injury concerns either. Six years of him for Choo just isn’t smart.
jeffrey d
December 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
With our payroll, you don’t give a free agent pitcher a 15 M a year contract
Good call. I can’t imagine the Braves ever giving a pitcher $15M a year
PuddyCat
December 9th, 2012
9:47 pm
Fredi talking lineup
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2012_12_09_estwin_licwin_1&t=g_box&sid=l131
HooRah
December 9th, 2012
9:47 pm
bah. Teheran could be Bruce Chen
PuddyCat
December 9th, 2012
9:51 pm
@tgwt39: RT @MLBNetworkRadio: Fredi Gonzalez, @Braves manager talks about adding @BJUPTON2 to the lineup on #MLBRoundtrip live at the #WinterMeetings http://bit.ly/Vo10Iv
ugaaccountant
December 9th, 2012
9:54 pm
What is Hanley Ramirez doing on that team? lol
Brava
December 9th, 2012
10:44 pm
Jason Martinez @mlbdepthcharts
RT @TBTimes_Rays Hearing #Rays have traded Shields AND Davis to #Royals. Working on confirmation and return
Brava
December 9th, 2012
10:45 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Rays, #Royals close on major trade.
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
10:46 pm
As Brava indicates:
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Rays, #Royals close on major trade.
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
10:46 pm
She’s too good for me…
Brava
December 9th, 2012
10:47 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Rays will send James Shields and Wade Davis to #Royals for Wil Myers and other prospects.
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
10:47 pm
Did not know Frenchy would bring such a haul…
Brava
December 9th, 2012
10:47 pm
Thanks, VJ.
ncbravesfan90
December 9th, 2012
10:47 pm
Will Myers going to Tampa.
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
10:49 pm
Wren is pathetic – he could have done that for Teheran and Constanza if he wasn’t so lazy…
Brava
December 9th, 2012
10:52 pm
Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick
Hearing that Shields, Davis and Myers aren’t only names in trade. It’s bigger than that, source said. #rays #royals
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
10:52 pm
Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick
Hearing that Shields, Davis and Myers aren’t only names in trade. It’s bigger than that, source said. #rays #royals
Bawlmer Brave
December 9th, 2012
10:53 pm
We ca probably scratch Gordon off the shopping list now.
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
10:54 pm
Dang the double clutch by the blog…
Brava
December 9th, 2012
10:55 pm
Christina Kahrl @ChristinaKahrl
Beyond the pen, really doubt the #Royals have talent to win short series now. Pointlessness, thy name is Dayton. #FoolYouNow #FireMeLater
Brava
December 9th, 2012
10:59 pm
Marc Topkin @TBTimes_Rays
With Shields + Davis going to #Royals, #Rays will have rotation of Price, Hellickson, Moore, Niemann + Cobb/Archer/possible KC return
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:04 pm
David Price @DAVIDprice14
Lies!!!!! RT @Ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Rays will send James Shields and Wade Davis to #Royals for Wil Myers and other prospects.
JC Brave
December 9th, 2012
11:04 pm
Bye, bye, Alex Gordon.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:06 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Rays finally get long term protection for Longoria in lineup with acquisition of Wil Myers who solidified corner OF for years to come
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:11 pm
Kansas City Royals @Royals
#Royals acquire RHPs James Shields, Wade Davis and player to be named or cash from Tampa Bay for Myers, Odorizzi, Montgomery and Leonard.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:12 pm
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
#Royals felt Myers would go thru ups & downs for next couple of years, much like Hosmer/Moustakas. Decided window to go for it was now.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:12 pm
keithlaw @keithlaw
Holy crap “@jcrasnick: Jake Odorizzi is also in the trade. #royals #rays”
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
11:13 pm
keithlaw @keithlaw
Hey, at least Jeff Francoeur’s job is safe.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:13 pm
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
James Shields would leave the Rays as their all-time leader in many stats- including wins, starts, innings pitched and strikeouts.
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
11:15 pm
Brava – bit of advice – italics help make it easier to spot quotes…
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:16 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Gutsy deal by Royals that will help them next two years to contend and haunt them six years from now
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
11:17 pm
robneyer @robneyer
My quick take: This is the worst trade in MLB history unless Wade Davis becomes a good starter, in which case it’s only the second worst.
JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
11:20 pm
Friedman does it again…gets max value out of his assets every freaking time. Us? Hang on until there is no value left, pitcher is done, and flip for a reliever. Of course, Tommy never was a James Shields.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:20 pm
I don’t have time for that, VJ. I’m on a mission.
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
11:21 pm
robneyer @robneyer
Also, this is what happens when you’re the Royals and you start talking to a bunch of really, really smart guys about a trade. #badidea
JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
11:21 pm
Friedman would be crazy good with some actual cash.
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
11:22 pm
3 keystrokes…
A.P
December 9th, 2012
11:23 pm
I somewhat believe in Wren, but he needs to take notes from Tampa. Everything they do seems to work.
JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
11:23 pm
And who scouts their pitching for drafts? Price, hellickson, Moore, etc
HooRah
December 9th, 2012
11:23 pm
and Myers could be another Marte too
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:23 pm
keithlaw @keithlaw
I am just sick of big market teams like the Rays taking advantage of indigent owners like David Glass
JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
11:24 pm
Royals should have asked for Price with that package…
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:25 pm
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Why did KC make this trade? Royals last made the playoffs in 1985. Every MLB team has made the playoffs since then.
A.P
December 9th, 2012
11:25 pm
Their drafting is top notch but i think a lot of it can be credited to their player development.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:27 pm
Jason Martinez @mlbdepthcharts
The #Rays rotation won’t be as good w/o Shields. Their bullpen still isn’t very deep. And James Loney is their 1B. Still work to be done.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:28 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
Yankees could finalize Ichiro deal soon – http://CBSSports.com http://cbsprt.co/SQxvC6
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
11:29 pm
Old Hoss Radbourn @OldHossRadbourn
Royals’ owner D. Glass to trade Jack Stack Barbeque and Arthur Bryant’s for the rights to the McRib.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:30 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
After Shields trade…. Ben Zobrist becomes final Devil Ray left standing
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:32 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
The word is that the Royals do plan to try Wade Davis as a starter. And yes, they know he’s done much better in pen so far in career.
nolie
December 9th, 2012
11:32 pm
lets get Zobrist then, he must be lonely
take him in a ♥beat
JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
11:32 pm
Man, trade prices just went through the roof a day after free agent prices went looney tunes.
JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
11:33 pm
Me too Noles!
JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
11:34 pm
Who would you start with on our side, Nolie?
nolie
December 9th, 2012
11:36 pm
PCL can make anybody look like a great hitter…..
Brava
December 9th, 2012
11:37 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Let’s not sugar coat this deal…Rays win it with a first round knockout. No need to debate or discuss this one.
Tom O'Hawke
December 9th, 2012
11:37 pm
3 keystrokes… — (math genius)
I had it at 7, but who am I to argue? So, I figured I’d try it out, again, and count the keystrokes as I went along.
7