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VaBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
12:42 pm
Emilio Bonifacio would be a great addition if Wren is looking at a smaller and lower cost addition. He’d give us a option for leadoff man in LF when he starts. When on the bench he’s a utility guy who can play 6 positions and has blazing speed.
I think we could manage to get by with some kind of combo of Bonifacio, Johnson, and Francisco opposite of Prado. All while still having Gattis waiting for a call in AAA. It could work, tho not on the top of my list. But certainly better than doing nothing. It would be nice to see Jose Constanza never make the 25 man roster this season… We can only hope….
Not Disgusted
December 9th, 2012
12:42 pm
Bottom line is that we could not afford ZG and sure he might beat us once in a while but he will not be the only one.
As said before, ZG is a very good but not great pitcher. Over the duration of his contract, he should give the Dodgers around what he has done in 2008, 2011 and 12.
Not 2010 when he was off, or 2009 which was a career yr. Will he have an ‘09 kind of yr during this contract — I say 70/30 aganst that.
The heat is on our system — that is the way it is. The system is the backbone of the future. That is cold hard stinking business of the game as it is this day in time for most teams.
Not Disgusted
December 9th, 2012
12:45 pm
Bonifacio might be the kind of move we are going to get.
Not the big sexy move we would like — like a Choo, or Swisher, but a move that can be useful and adequate if used properly in the context of what we already have.
I do think FW overvalues Teheran but that is just my own $.02. Another yr like ‘12 and he is a shot former hot prospect. There is something about his game I just do not like.
George_George
December 9th, 2012
12:53 pm
If a miracle happened and we got SWISHER I would be so pleased, it would make up for getting BJ.
Not Disgusted
December 9th, 2012
12:54 pm
Someone will want Micheal Bourn — just not at what Borass thought he was worth.
He could get a one yr 15 – 18 mil deal somewhere and reenter FA next yris he wants to.
He should get more than Victorino got per yr — that 13 mil a yr for 3 yrs for Victorino was nuts. .
richbrave
December 9th, 2012
12:58 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
10:34 am
“…..I think Graham’s legit, feel better about him than I ever did about Teheran… don’t know much about Sims other than stats and scouting reports, haven’t seen him pitch live. But I did see Wood a few times at Rome… I think he’s gonna be a good one. Wonder if they’re gonna keep him at Rome to start the season, he sure looked dominant already…..”
I’m envious that you’ve had eyes on ALEX WOOD. I think he’s a potential low to mid-ninties lefty that’s going to rise fast. I’m almost certain he’ll be in LYNCHBURG to start the season, barring injury or executive decision of course. But SPRUILL, HALE, and NORTHCRAFT have all moved to the 40-man, and are practically guaranteed advancement.
TEHERAN in AAA ?
DELGADO in AAA ?
One of them should be advanced to the end of the rotation slot with the other on standby in ready 5 in GWINNETT.
Starters in AAA this season. Was it Jason that asked if there would be starters in GWINNETT this season?
BRAVES like other clubs don’t set the final rosters for AAA and AA until the end of ST. But here’s my crystal ball prediction.
RH TEHERAN/DELGADO
RH SPRUILL
RH HALE
LH GILMARTIN
LH ‘FLAMBE’ FLANDE
are my picks for the starters in LAWRENCEVILLE.
ERIC JUNGE will not make the roster in my opinion.
ugaaccountant
December 9th, 2012
12:59 pm
BJ is a much better signing than Swisher. After reading what a d-bag Swisher is I think he’d be the worst signing possible. Lot of money and a clubhouse cancer. Pass.
VaBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
1:01 pm
Pagan 10 mil a year
Ross 11 mil a year
Victorino 13 mil a year
Swisher 14 mil a year
Upton 15 mil a year
Bourn 17 mil a year
cabravesfan
December 9th, 2012
1:04 pm
Pondering which of the super crappy games I should watch this morning: Cowboys-Bengals or Chargers-Steelers…
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
1:04 pm
but, in response to your question… yes, it seems that his atlanta connections weren’t enough.
richbrave
December 9th, 2012
1:04 pm
A surprise in GWINNETT as a starter/spot reliefer might by RHS/RP GARY MORAN. I like the look of him ….. statistically of course.
LHS/RP may be JOSE LUGO. He’s had great success in winter ball not having given up a run in 18 outings until yesterday’s 19th [1.62 ERA].
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
1:05 pm
according to talking Chop, Wood will go to Gwinnett. Maybe just a year away from the Show. That’d be nice. Just would be sad if he’s not at Rome still, want to see him some more
richbrave
December 9th, 2012
1:05 pm
O.K. Battle of the Beltways in on. RGIII, RGIII, RGIII Hail to the REDSKINS
VaBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
1:06 pm
Hamilton 20 mil a year
Joey G
December 9th, 2012
1:09 pm
The Cody Ross front has been quite. Could FW be waiting to see how J Upton situation works out then use Ross as plan B?
GRAPHITE
December 9th, 2012
1:14 pm
You can get the entire All Star teams and it won’t matter.Until the Braves makes peace with the Indian Spirits,you will not succeed. The curse is still on.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
1:14 pm
Falcons Panthers, cab…
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
1:16 pm
and actually, bad typo above… Wood isn’t going to Gwinnett, but Mississippi
cabravesfan
December 9th, 2012
1:20 pm
I don’t get Falcons-Panthers. We get the Chargers (when they are not blacked out, which is most home games thank God) and the “national” FOX games.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
December 9th, 2012
1:20 pm
Panthers making the Falcons look like buffoons…but they’ll still probably lose by three…
BosnianBaller
December 9th, 2012
1:23 pm
I wish we could trade uggla along with a prospect just to get rid of Uggla then sign Bourn to a bit of a smaller deal than he wants so we can havr him in left.But obviously that cant happen
Mixxo
December 9th, 2012
1:25 pm
Still…..11-2 ain’t bad.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
1:26 pm
they’ll be fine, guys
Hugo Z Hackenbush
December 9th, 2012
1:33 pm
I meant the Panthers will probably lose by three…it’s their m.o. this season.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
1:36 pm
https://twitter.com/Braves/status/277843719208701952/photo/1
I’d say Juan looks thinner… not that it matters much. Fredi and Bethancourt are to his right
Hugo Z Hackenbush
December 9th, 2012
1:38 pm
Another player who apparently finds the “hometown discount” concept not to his liking…
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/quick-hits-price-rays-otani-dodgers-dickey.html
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
1:46 pm
we should give Price, 7/180….
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
1:49 pm
Juan losing the weight shows great discipline… hopefully he can learn some of that at the plate
Mark
December 9th, 2012
1:50 pm
Falcons look like crap
Jerry
December 9th, 2012
1:54 pm
The Falcon’s are looking like they are in the first game of the playoffs, and we know what that always means.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
1:55 pm
as long as they get it out of their system now… We’re still getting the #1 seed regardless, just would be nice to lock it up today though
Mark
December 9th, 2012
1:59 pm
Falcons haven’t been able to run the ball with any consistncy much of the year. Won several close games but not very impressively. I’m afraid we’ll be done early.
richbrave
December 9th, 2012
2:01 pm
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TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
2:03 pm
Told everyone that Turner was cooked… looked bad since last year. Shoulda used Quizz more, he’s our best shot… but even that isn’t great. Ryan needs some rest, maybe Turner… let the O-line play though, they gotta learn to block people.
Letting Samuel play all those weeks when he was hurt was dumb though… rest him and Moore through week 17.
Jerry
December 9th, 2012
2:05 pm
Jesus Ryan, try throwing the friggin ball downfield. 3rd and 10 and you make a pass for 1 yard. Just dumb.
Mark
December 9th, 2012
2:08 pm
Seems like every time we are 3rd and anything he throws the ball short and the receivers don’t get to the sticks. Pretty lementary stuff.
Jerry
December 9th, 2012
2:08 pm
Well, there is always a silver lining and in this game it means that I don’t have to see Michael Turner grind out his normal 1-yard rushes.
Mark
December 9th, 2012
2:13 pm
Falcons look like they are playing the neighborhood bully – getting drilled – and just taking it
Jerry
December 9th, 2012
2:13 pm
Matt Ryan is the Falcon’s version of Chipper Jones. He has all the high numbers, but fails when it actually matters in the playoffs.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
2:14 pm
Is Mularkey back calling the plays? LOL
VaBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
2:23 pm
There just isn’t alot of players or organizations interested in keeping players for a very long time.
You have Ryan Braun, Chipper Jones, David Wright, Ryan Zimmerman, Ryan Longoria as examples of being with original team and under long term contracts.
HooRah
December 9th, 2012
2:29 pm
I see that Jerry is still full of crap.
Jake W.
December 9th, 2012
2:30 pm
Matt Ryan is the Falcon’s version of Chipper Jones. He has all the high numbers, but fails when it actually matters in the playoffs.
Good thing its just Carolina and not the playoffs.. Look, our offense has been underwhelming the last two games and we aren’t blowing people away, but the fact is there is not one great team out there this year. Every team has problems. Flip a coin in the playoffs this year, really shouldn’t be to many favorites. Just get there and see what happens.
Matt Ryan has to do better, much better, but so does that offensive line. Got to figure out a way to get the guy some more time to throw. Kudos to the defense, they are banged up and have been bent but not broken this year.
ncgary
December 9th, 2012
2:40 pm
the man in black video
sure makes ya wanna pull
out a bag of green and
do one up in his honor
ncgary
December 9th, 2012
2:41 pm
qb draw for 72 yards super kitty cam
ugaaccountant
December 9th, 2012
2:46 pm
Francisco sounds like a better option than the over 30 free agent crowd. Baseball has entered a new age where the post-steroid over 30s generally won’t get it done.
Jake W.
December 9th, 2012
2:46 pm
Boy if the panthers put this much concentration into performing well for the whole year they could have been a playoff contender. At least one team got up for the game. Looks like the falcons thought it was a bye.
Every week its pressure, pressure and more pressure on Ryan. Falcons need to run a few more screens imo, not just little dump off plays, get some blockers in front of a Julio or Rogers and let them go.
Mark
December 9th, 2012
2:49 pm
Pressure on Ryan comes from the pitiful running game we have.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
2:53 pm
Once Nolan gets his boys back… the D will be great again. They’re doing okay today, just on the field too damn long. Offense needs to step up, find some running game.
Fire Turner!
Mark
December 9th, 2012
2:54 pm
1st and goal from the 8 and we are in the shotgun.
Jake W.
December 9th, 2012
2:55 pm
Pressure on Ryan comes from the pitiful running game we have.
It is what it is, not going to get much better at this point. Falcons just need to find a way to score and win.
Mark
December 9th, 2012
2:58 pm
At least we called a timeout and got back under center. Gained 4 or 5 ona run. Now we can run it again or play action.
Shotgun is fine and good for running plays when the QB can read and run the ball. Matty aint running it though
HooRah
December 9th, 2012
3:15 pm
I’m afraid I see the fat lady walking up to the mike back there
Mark
December 9th, 2012
3:19 pm
I ddn’t see any bbble on the 2 point play ???
NORRIS
December 9th, 2012
3:24 pm
falcons got ripped off on that 2 point conversion call. that was about as bad as i have ever seen.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
3:30 pm
definitely was a screw-over w/ Roddy… and if they overturn this CAR play and call it a catch-and-fumble…
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
3:31 pm
dang
Mixxo
December 9th, 2012
3:40 pm
BALLGAME!!!!!!!!!!
Jake W.
December 9th, 2012
4:11 pm
RGIII and Cutler out again, wide open in the NFC.
Being a sitting duck quarterback is not for Ryan and this line. He’s got to learn how to create time for himself and then to make good decisions once he does. That’s his biggest weakness to me. Lack of creativity when the play or pocket breaks down. Improvisation is not his strength. To me that hurts more than the running game being sub par.. Sometimes you have to create where there is nothing.
JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
4:16 pm
…any news on a LF?
Heath
December 9th, 2012
4:27 pm
Looking more like a trade for LF… Or go with a 3B/LF platoon of Prado/Francisco/Johnson
VaBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
4:32 pm
Captain Kirk to the rescue!!!!! Skins win 4 in a row!!!!!
JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
4:42 pm
I am watching Teheran pitch.
http://www.licey.com/multimedia/television.html
kenhotlanta
December 9th, 2012
4:47 pm
JasonInFL: Ted William’s head is looking better and better. I’m hoping they will waive the rules and let him use a Segway.
JasonInFL
December 9th, 2012
4:50 pm
kenhotlanta: Not the worst suggestion I have seen on here.
detroitchris
December 9th, 2012
5:00 pm
Teheran dealing. 4IP, 1H, 0BB, 5K 0ER. only about 44 pitches.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
5:03 pm
Teheran has a very nice streak going. Hope he keeps it up. Very encouraging.
jeff hall
December 9th, 2012
5:09 pm
Always nice to read a good article about Dale Murphy, but doing so at this time of year is bittersweet in that, one, you know he was on the Hall Of Fame ballot again and, two, you realize he wasn’t elected. Again.
http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-age-outs.html#more
Brava
December 9th, 2012
5:10 pm
Dylan Hernandez @dylanohernandez
Ryu Hyun-jin has signed with the #Dodgers.
ugaaccountant
December 9th, 2012
5:16 pm
Teheran is building his trade value back up. Man i’d love to trade him for Will Myers.
BraveDan
December 9th, 2012
5:31 pm
ugaaccountant
December 9th, 2012
5:16 pm
Teheran is building his trade value back up. Man i’d love to trade him for Will Myers
Totally agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Efrim
December 9th, 2012
5:33 pm
Dodgers sign LHP Ryu Hyun-jin.
That brings their starting pitcher total to Kerhsaw, Greinke, Beckett, Capuano, Harang, Ryu Hyun-jin, Lilly and Billingsley.
Although those last two are question marks.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
5:36 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
ryu gets $36M for 6 yrs. also has opt out after 5.
reagan
December 9th, 2012
5:38 pm
DOB……..thanks for the heads-up on the Cash video…………
Brava
December 9th, 2012
5:39 pm
Talking Chop @gondeee
Teheran has only allowed one hit through 6IP, but he was elevating pitches in the 6th & went to more full counts that inn. than any other.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
5:41 pm
Dodgers get him too…. dang. they gonna have some guys to move.
Nice to see Teheran doing better… helping his trade value. Trade him for Choo NOW! lol
JC Brave
December 9th, 2012
5:41 pm
Come on Wren, do some dumpster diving!
I know you want to!
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
5:44 pm
Talking Chop @gondeee
Teheran has only allowed one hit through 6IP, but he was elevating pitches in the 6th & went to more full counts that inn. than any other.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
5:45 pm
guess I should have read up… sorry Brava
Heath
December 9th, 2012
5:45 pm
Rather use Teheran for a guy like Myers, not 1-year LH hitter.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
5:47 pm
No problem, TOBF. I do it, too.
Brava
December 9th, 2012
5:49 pm
Talking Chop @gondeee
Last 3 Winter Lg games for Teheran: 16.2IP, 2H, 4BB, 15K, 0R. The kid is looking good.
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
5:52 pm
Nice job, Hixon…
MikeInFl
December 9th, 2012
5:53 pm
So, we sign Teheran for 850K, spend 5 years grooming him, refuse god-knows-what trade offers for him, watch him struggle, and maybe, just maybe, regain the form that made him the consensus #1 pitching prospect in baseball… just to trade him at 21 years old for one year of a LF?
I just can’t see it. I think Wren is watching him in person this week (though I may be mistaken on that), and I’ll trust his judgement as to whether Julio is “back,” or on his way back. If there’s any possibility that he’s regaining his form, I hope we don’t trade him (unless in a huge deal).
Who will be our 6th starter if we trade Julio, btw? Flande?
ugaaccountant
December 9th, 2012
5:59 pm
6th starter if we trade Julio = Gilmartin or a minor league signing of someone cut in spring training.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
6:00 pm
Gilmartin, Graham… Wood (hehe)
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
6:03 pm
or someone signed after ST, which I’m sure we’ll already be doing
HooRah
December 9th, 2012
6:12 pm
Teheran = Bruce Chen ??
Luman Harris
December 9th, 2012
6:18 pm
Clubhouse chemistry is highly over-rated, in my opinion. I’d take Swisher in a heartbeat.
But I also like a plan that gives Francisco and, yes, even Constanza a shot.
(Why VaBravesFan says he hopes Constanza doesn’t make the playoff roster is beyond me. He’ll only make it if he’s good enough – so why not hope he does so well he’s on the roster? He certainly didn’t embarrass himself in this year’s short-lived playoff appearance.)
HooRah
December 9th, 2012
6:21 pm
I’m with VaBrave, get Constanza as far away from the Braves as possible
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 9th, 2012
6:30 pm
.250/.321/.276/.598, 64 OPS+- Jose Constanza after the league figured him out. Even when he was “good” last year, it was a 99 OPS+. Really only had 20 god games, w/ an insanely high BABIP. That wasn’t gonna be sustained. Would be better if we get him out of the organization. Send Schafer with him too
HooRah
December 9th, 2012
6:36 pm
64 OPS+ huh. I knew I disliked seeing him in the lineup.
HooRah
December 9th, 2012
6:36 pm
still getting those server errors I see. Rats
Heath
December 9th, 2012
6:46 pm
Just imagine if baseball had a min and max team salary?
Venice Jim
December 9th, 2012
6:51 pm
Cruuuuuuzzzzzzz……………
Sucker
December 9th, 2012
6:52 pm
Does anything this team do even matter…they’ll just CHOKE no matter the players at the end of the season…Heard Freddi on the radio saying that the Braves had a successful season…realized that the organization is filled with losers from top to bottom…last year was a failure…any season that doesn’t result in a championship is a failure…to believe or tell yourself anything else is pathetic…this is sports…not real life….the only thing that matters is winning…my god, this team is so easy to hate.
Luman Harris
December 9th, 2012
7:00 pm
20 good games, plus ignited what could (should) have been the game-winning rally against the Cardinals. Don’t understand the hatred. I would love for him to play well enough to stick. But yeah, he probably killed your first-born or something. Let’s wish him horrible misfortune.
Luman Harris
December 9th, 2012
7:01 pm
I feel sorry for you, sucker.
HooRah
December 9th, 2012
7:01 pm
so go somewhere else and hate some other team
HooRah
December 9th, 2012
7:04 pm
nothing more needs to be said than 64 OPS+. that is about as terrible as anybody in baseball.
so he did one thing right, he will do many more things wrong.
He is a AAAA hitter and mediocre defender with no power and a stinky OBP.
who in their right mind would want him taking up a spot that could be filled with a better player