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Brava

December 6th, 2012
2:22 pm

John Fay ‏@johnfayman

Heard Ludwick could get as much $3 million more over 2 years elsewhere compared to current #reds’ offer.

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
2:22 pm

Choo makes the most sense to me. But who knows what Cleveland wants to do at this point. They are after vets for a corner outfield spot and first base.

They have to know that everyday players at those spots, with more years of control than Choo, aren’t coming back in a trade. If Choo hasn’t been traded by Feb 1 to somebody else and the Braves haven’t made an acquisition, then I might be willing to at least entertain the idea of trading a top pitching prospect. Don’t if I’d do it, even then, but I’d at least think about it. Before that, nossir.

Tumbledown

December 6th, 2012
2:22 pm

Wren said somewhere that the Braves were done except for one more move in LF. Is Reed Johnson that one move? Hopefully not. Still, a nice signing to fortify the bench.

Brava

December 6th, 2012
2:23 pm

John Fay ‏@johnfayman

#reds can offer shot to hit between Votto and Bruce, a short right field and proximity to skyline restaurants

Venice Jim

December 6th, 2012
2:24 pm

Actually, he said left field and bench…this would be the latter…

MFin04

December 6th, 2012
2:24 pm

“#Braves have agreed to terms with free-agent outfielder Reed Johnson on a one-year contract for the 2013 season with a club option for 2014.”

No lie, HUGE SIGNING. Really need him for our bench and to crush lefties. That’s a really big signing.

Why does everyone fall in love with BJ Upton’s homers. Sure he hit homers. But he didn’t get on base, he doesn’t play good defense in CF, and his slugging really wasn’t that great. Not to mention he doesn’t hit for a high average.

If BJ Upton produces like he has in the last few years for the next 5 years, the Braves signing him will be a monumental bust. He’s gotta improve pretty much all his numbers except his homer total. ;)

Trader Jack

December 6th, 2012
2:27 pm

ncscoots You guys are starting to sound like trade-monkeys on crack, LOL.

That is a HOF comment. thanx scoots – LOL

Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)

December 6th, 2012
2:27 pm

Good To Have Reed Johnson back…He is a Nasty Hit Stick coming off the Bench, That trade with the Cubs was Stellar, I see That Wren gets no prpos for that

Gone Viral

December 6th, 2012
2:27 pm

The aspect of Teheran and Delgado’s situations that gets ignored too often is that they will be 22 and 23 respectively next season. The fact that they are MLB-ready at this age reflects their tremendous upside. We are not giving arms like that away for magic beans. Even Shoo, a player I love and have championed on here for a couple of trade deadlines, isn’t worth that cost as a one year rental.

The strongest compliment I can give Frank Wren at this point in his tenure as Braves GM is that he appreciates the value of an asset to the correct degree.

Brava

December 6th, 2012
2:27 pm

NOT SportsCenter ‏@NOTSportsCenter

#Phillies acquire OF Ben Revere from #Twins, will have him ride through town to inform their fans “LAST PLACE IS COMING! LAST PLACE COMING!”

tony austin

December 6th, 2012
2:27 pm

Ichiro is not FW’s type of player, he only struck out 61 times last season.

Halbert

December 6th, 2012
2:27 pm

“Yeah, I know you weren’t, man. I don’t consider you to be one “those guys”. I just kinda used your post as a take-off point to address some of the folks that I do consider numbnuts. Probably ought to be more careful about that kind of thing”

Yeah, I didn’t take offense to it, hehe. But I do find it very interesting to see the juxtaposition of viewpoints on players. I mean, we read on this blog and other Braves-centric websites about how Gattis will be a beast, and Gilmartin/Delgado/Whoever will be a stud and then find that other teams want them all and more for a mid-level player, lol. Just reminds you how few of these prospects actually turn out to be as good as advertised.

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

Braves have agreed to terms with free-agent outfielder Reed Johnson

Outstanding. Don’t care about the price, either.

raleighbravefan

December 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

Patrick – Wow…just, Wow. Maybe you should lay off the caffine for a while.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

Nice to have Reed back for possibly next two seasons… terms??? Thankfully, he’s healthier in his ol age than Ross was.

And I do believe folks were panicking about us letting Reed get away…

tony austin

December 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

en Ingram ‏@IngramRadio

#Braves have agreed to terms with free-agent outfielder Reed Johnson on a one-year contract for the 2013 season with a club option for 2014. – Brava

That’s the best news of the Braves offseason to me.

kenhotlanta

December 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

T’hawkin: Did your boy Chuck Oliver get over his beat down by Mark Richt last Saturday night? That was priceless to see CMR do that.

Patrick

December 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

Ben Ingram ‏@IngramRadio

#Braves have agreed to terms with free-agent outfielder Reed Johnson on a one-year contract for the 2013 season with a club option for 2014.

Wow, I’m SHOCKED that the Braves got him back. I was sure that they were going to get out-bid. Well, at least now Wren can fully concentrate on LF!

And good move getting Reed back!

Brava

December 6th, 2012
2:29 pm

Excited to have Reed Johnson back. Our bench was anemic last season.

Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)

December 6th, 2012
2:30 pm

@MFIN

I have no Huge Expectations for BEEJJJ Upton…He just better not become our version of Alfonso Sorry-ano and stop stealing bases since he got Broke-off from his new contract. Otherwise, I will be Calling him “Loaf” and you can take that to The Bank

Patrick

December 6th, 2012
2:31 pm

Patrick – Wow…just, Wow. Maybe you should lay off the caffine for a while.

What’s your problem?

Halbert

December 6th, 2012
2:31 pm

Hey, Braves signed Reed Johnson :) About time. Good sign.

chipl1960

December 6th, 2012
2:33 pm

just signed Reed Johnson to one year deal. Part of bench is settled

tony austin

December 6th, 2012
2:33 pm

You can call me names, you can insult my intelligence, BUT DON’T EVER TAKE MY CAFFEINE AWAY! :)

Sorry, had a little moment there, all better now.

Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)

December 6th, 2012
2:33 pm

kenhotlanta

“T’hawkin: Did your boy Chuck Oliver get over his beat down by Mark Richt last Saturday night? That was priceless to see CMR do that.”

I read abt it on a blog on the ajc.com when it broke, The King got Killed, OUCH

What does everyone and they mama have against him? Other tha the fact that he is Auburn Alum…

Tumbledown

December 6th, 2012
2:33 pm

Is is agreed that the Braves are one LF move away from potentially having a solid offseason? There is plenty of time to make such move with options available. Hopefully, the panic is subsiding a bit.

BravePack(FreeFan)

December 6th, 2012
2:33 pm

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
2:14 pm
Teheran for Fowler.

I wager whatever your house is worth that deal never happens. Not in any universe inhabited by humans, in which those humans have watched Dexter Fowler play.

You guys are starting to sound like trade-monkeys on crack, LOL.

scoots

Are you saying not enough for Fowler or too much for Fowler? Because if it’s not enough, I thought many were saying this guy is a product of Coors Field?

Efrim

December 6th, 2012
2:33 pm

Glad to have Reed Johnson back as a 4th outfielder. Johnson, Laird, and Janish all part of the bench for 2013. Francisco probably as well. Guessing they either go eith Mejia at the other spot, or look for another LH PH with experience.

abeeeewright

December 6th, 2012
2:34 pm

THawkin’ … “I think ol Frankie could have traded Slop like the Rev to get Revere, He has done it before,”

Look at what Philly gave up for Revere. Do you really want Wren to compete with that?

Wren offered slop. Philly offered choice sirloin.

Without using Jedi Mind Tricks, how do you out-bid choice sirloin with slop?

Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)

December 6th, 2012
2:35 pm

tony austin

“You can call me names, you can insult my intelligence, BUT DON’T EVER TAKE MY CAFFEINE AWAY!

Sorry, had a little moment there, all better now.”

Damn the Caffeine, I need some Big Boy Margaritas for TNA Rasslin tonight

Brava

December 6th, 2012
2:35 pm

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi

Jack Hannahan could decide on a team today. Twins, White Sox and Reds are in the mix.

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
2:35 pm

Are you saying not enough for Fowler or too much for Fowler?

Too much by half.

MFin04

December 6th, 2012
2:37 pm

“And I do believe folks were panicking about us letting Reed get away…”

Rightfully so, guy is an extremely valuable player. Heck he can play all 3 OF positions and he can hit lefties on a team that can’t. That’s valuable. Not to mention all the lefty relievers the Braves face.

Parkway

December 6th, 2012
2:37 pm

Glad to see Reed Johnson is returning!

Bobby's Cox

December 6th, 2012
2:38 pm

Ward, the only way the Braves are checking in on Dee Gordon is if they flip him for J Upton, who it looks like they’ve missed the boat on. Dodgers want a lot for Dee.

Rick C

December 6th, 2012
2:38 pm

Glad to have Reed back.

Russell Bell

December 6th, 2012
2:38 pm

Nice offseason for Wren so far.

Hopefully he can pry Choo away from Cleveland… without giving up Delgado or Teheran.

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
2:39 pm

Guessing they either go eith Mejia at the other spot, or look for another LH PH with experience.

Well, Johnson isn’t exactly the guy you want up down by one with a man on, not all that much power there. If Francisco and Mejia aren’t mirages, there’s some bench sock from both sides for late-game heroics, if they both go north. :-)

tony austin

December 6th, 2012
2:39 pm

I never understood why people were always insisting on new blogs. I thought a new blog was just a bunch of different words. Now I understand as the pages pile up the blog slows down.

Seems a lot worse nowadays than in days past.

Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)

December 6th, 2012
2:40 pm

abeeeewright

THawkin’ … “I think ol Frankie could have traded Slop like the Rev to get Revere, He has done it before,”

Look at what Philly gave up for Revere. Do you really want Wren to compete with that?”

Right On, Philly Fans are Killing Ruben Amaro on the philly.com forum…

I’m just glad that we dont have to see Worley, That #### owned Us….How many times Did we call him Cy Worley after 5 innings during the games? Too Many

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 6th, 2012
2:40 pm

Reed is back… bench is settled imo unless we’re replacing Juan. Laird, Mejia, Janish, Reed, Francisco. Good enough for me, hopefully Mejia can be a good compliment to him. Juan isnt all that good as a PH.

1.7 AA max for Reed sounds good.

Norman Cochran

December 6th, 2012
2:43 pm

Frank Wren was Assistant General Manager for the Marlins back when Gonzalez was manager. Marlins ran their club on the cheap too and look where they end up most years!!

Norman Cochran

December 6th, 2012
2:43 pm

Frank Wren was Assistant General Manager for the Marlins back when Gonzalez was manager. Marlins ran their club on the cheap too and look where they end up most years!!

Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)

December 6th, 2012
2:43 pm

Does anyone wanna Gamble on Grazy Sizemeore?

Fire Away? Low risk, High reward option coming off the bench

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
2:43 pm

Jack Hannahan could decide on a team today.

That there is the slightest iota of interest in where Jack Hannahan signs is all that needs to be said about the current state of 3B in the bigs.

BravePack(FreeFan)

December 6th, 2012
2:43 pm

tony austin

December 6th, 2012
2:29 pm
en Ingram ‏@IngramRadio

#Braves have agreed to terms with free-agent outfielder Reed Johnson on a one-year contract for the 2013 season with a club option for 2014. – Brava

That’s the best news of the Braves offseason to me.

I like this signing and glad he’s coming back but best of the offseason? Really? Really? Man I wish the season started sooner so I don’t have read all the Bossman hate for months to come. This guy is gonna rake in Atlanta and shut up all the haters. He’ll be hitting in a better line-up, entering his prime years, he’ll be working with 2 pretty good hitting coaches who will help him be more patient. 30/30 for sure and average close to his 2007-2008 years.

Efrim

December 6th, 2012
2:43 pm

LF ??, CF Upton, RF Heyward
3B Prado, SS Simmons, 2B Uggla, 1B Freeman, C McCann

Bench: C Laird, INF Janish, OF R. Johnson, 3B Francisco, ??

SP Hudson, Medlen, Minor, Maholm, Delgado/Teheran
RP Kimbrel, O’Flaherty, Venters, Walden, Avilan, Gearrin, Martinez

Two more pieces needed. And then we’re all set for March. ;)

Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)

December 6th, 2012
2:45 pm

Dammit, Its Official,

The Braves Brass have left the Meetings with no Effing Leadoff Hitter…Turrible Job Frankie…BEEJ alone is not gonna put Cheeks in The Seats during the Weekday games

P'cola Brave

December 6th, 2012
2:45 pm

Wow surprised that Reed only got a 1 yr deal. Figured he’d get at least two from somebody.

Efrim

December 6th, 2012
2:45 pm

scoots, I’d be okay with Mejia for the last spot on the bench.

That there is the slightest iota of interest in where Jack Hannahan signs is all that needs to be said about the current state of 3B in the bigs.

I don’t know about you, but the deals I’ve seen this winter have made me believe strongly that we’ll be handing out two qualifying offers next Fall if contract extensions aren’t agreed to by then: McCann and Prado.

Trader Jack

December 6th, 2012
2:48 pm

scoots

Can you imagine what the Padres could get if they threw Headley on the block

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 6th, 2012
2:50 pm

Man, you really love BJ! He’s gonna disappoint ya man… wont be anything new to me though.

We shall see.

P'cola Brave

December 6th, 2012
2:50 pm

Not that the Reed Johnson thing is a surprise but it does leave open the possibility of a platoon with a RH bat that smashes LHP. Either he finds an everyday guy or he’ll acquire a LH bat that smokes RHP.

Efrim

December 6th, 2012
2:50 pm

Contracts that were handed out this winter aren’t going to make it easy on Wren to lock up Prado, imo. The four year, $36-38 million deal I was thinking is going right out the window with every signing.

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
2:53 pm

LF ??, CF Upton, RF Heyward, 3B Prado, SS Simmons, 2B Uggla, 1B Freeman, C McCann

Some folks here are gonna hate this team, because they aren’t going to be some dancing-prancing-running-gunning-pretty-pretty group. They look more like club-wielding brutes with quicks. No floating like a butterfly, just sting like a Mack truck.

No idea as to what will actually happen with these guys, but, they’ll be lethal if they go off. Mercy.

Trader Jack

December 6th, 2012
2:53 pm

Efrim

I was looking at 2014, and if they wanted to keep both Mac and Prado, along with Uggla and Upton, the cost would be $55-$57 million

A.P.

December 6th, 2012
2:53 pm

Out of curiosity, for the fans who are critical of Wren, what would you have done differently?
- BJ seems worth 15/yr in a market where Victorino got 13.
- The Phils gave up a ton for a decent Revere
- The Rockies seriously asked for Minor AND Teheran/Delgado for Fowler.
I think his patience will prove valuable as we have assets and money when this crazy market settles down.

P'cola Brave

December 6th, 2012
2:53 pm

One FA I’m surprised didn’t come up at all during winter meetings is Cody Ross. Even after the year he had last year (mostly benefited from playing 81 home games at Fenway) I figured he’d be on someones radar. I think Ludwick will set the market for him more so than the other signings.

wheelz007

December 6th, 2012
2:54 pm

Is everyone forgetting we still have Jordan Schafer? He could be our lead off guy…

I’m kidding.

But the good news is, Frank Wren DID NOT make a bad trade at the Winter Meetings.

I am guessing that the asking price for the players we’re interested in is too high. At least right now.

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
2:55 pm

Can you imagine what the Padres could get if they threw Headley on the block

Trampled by the rush, probably. :-)

Efrim

December 6th, 2012
2:56 pm

Twins get needed arms for Ben Revere
by Keith Law

By trading right-handers Vance Worley and Trevor May to the Minnesota Twins for Ben Revere, the Philadelphia Phillies solved their center-field problem for the next few years, but at a pretty high cost in young pitching, which is exactly what the Twins needed to do with their surplus of young outfielders.

Revere does two things extremely well: run and play center, well enough that he grades out as at least a 70 (on the 20-80 scouting scale) in both departments. He also has as little power as any current major league regular, which in turn limits his ability to hit for average because pitchers are unafraid to challenge him.

He kept his average up in 2012 via more infield hits than he had in the past, making better use of his speed, as he’s one of a small number of players for whom frequent bunting for hits is an ideal strategy. But his primary value is in his glove, which is something the Phillies sorely need given the age and composition of the rest of their roster; even if his average dips to the .260s again, dragging the rest of his line with it, he’ll be worth more than 2 wins above replacement to the Phils, who had no center-field options on the roster before this trade.

The Twins had an outfield surplus even after the trade of Denard Span because their system is loaded with outfield prospects, many of whom are within a year of the majors. They could hand the center-field job to Aaron Hicks, a 2008 first-round pick who developed slowly but built on a strong 2011 Arizona Fall League showing with a .286/.384/.460 line as a 22-year-old in Double-A in 2012. He’s more patient than disciplined, but his approach should be enough for him to handle the every-day role this season. They also have Oswaldo Arcia moving up their system quickly, with 2012 first-rounder Byron Buxton and German-born Max Kepler likely to debut in full-season leagues this year.

In exchange for Revere, the Twins continued to rebuild their stockpile of young pitching with Worley, an established back-end starter, and May, a former top prospect whose performance hasn’t matched the scouting reports.

Worley hasn’t shown any kind of out pitch in the majors but has thrown enough strikes with the fastball/slider combo and occasional changeup to work as a back-end starter, with league-average performance probably his long-term ceiling. He is still cheap and allows the Twins to bridge the gap to some of the better arms in their system.

May’s poor command and control, the latter of which took a big dive in 2012, are related both to trouble maintaining his delivery and to his mental approach to pitching, although changing organizations might help with that second point. He posted a 4.87 ERA in Double-A this year with 151 strikeouts and 78 walks in 149 2/3 innings. He has an above-average fastball — which isn’t something the Twins have a lot of in their system — but tries to pitch up in the zone with it too often, and his curveball and changeup have stagnated over the last year, but he’s healthy and just 22 years old. A new organization that hammers throwing strikes into pitchers’ minds as much as the Twins do might be the perfect spot for him.

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
2:57 pm

The four year, $36-38 million deal I was thinking is going right out the window with every signing.

Gone with a bigger poof than Kyzer Soze.

P'cola Brave

December 6th, 2012
2:57 pm

DOB responded to a question about Willingham on twitter. The Twins are still listening on offers for him. So the question to those on the blog is, would you match the offers given for Revere and Span to acquire Willingham?

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 6th, 2012
2:58 pm

TJ And Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel, and Meds are probably another 25mil or so, maybe more. JV yoo… between Mac and Prado, gotta pick Prado. We dont have anotheer 3B.

Efrim

December 6th, 2012
3:01 pm

Philly’s system is an absolute mess.

DAP

December 6th, 2012
3:01 pm

p’cola would you match the offers given for Revere and Span to acquire Willingham?

i think so, yeah.

A.P.

December 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

P’Cola, I would easily give a Teheran or Delgado straight up for Willingham. He had a monster year last year, and is on a team friendly deal. We have pitching, and a right handed bat that hit 35 bombs and a 110 RBI’s last year would look real nice in our lineup

Juan

December 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

Signed Rick Ankiel one yr deal and Mark reynolds

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

between Mac and Prado, gotta pick Prado. We dont have anotheer 3B.

Don’t have another catcher, either.

MFin04

December 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

Josh Willingham 25hrs 75-80 RBIs [.261/.362/.483/.845]

That’s an impact bat in LF. If Simmons can turn into a one or 2 hitter it would help the Braves lineup, but eitherway that’s nice production in LF.

Murph

December 6th, 2012
3:03 pm

They look more like club-wielding brutes with quicks. No floating like a butterfly, just sting like a Mack truck.

No idea as to what will actually happen with these guys, but, they’ll be lethal if they go off. Mercy.

I got chills as I read this, picturing the starters walking down the tunnel in slow motion, stopping for effect at the top step, and then running out onto the field with the music blaring and crowd cheering….

Then I pictured Constanza bounding down the tunnel behind them and my chills quickly went away.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 6th, 2012
3:05 pm

P’Cola at 2:57 No way do I do that… 2years of an aging LF who has avgd about 110 starts on the field (not DH) the last 3-4 years isnt worth that. Give them a mid-level prospect or two.

Efrim

December 6th, 2012
3:05 pm

Gone with a bigger poof than Kyzer Soze.

Honestly, if I’m Prado now a year away from free agency now seeing these prices for players I’m better than, I”d want at least something in the five years, $55 million dollar range on an extension and I don’t know if the Braves would be willing to do that.

Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)

December 6th, 2012
3:08 pm

Oh Well…Time to go Play in Traffic…You Cats be Good…”C Ya When I C Ya”—Martin Lawrence

Efrim

December 6th, 2012
3:08 pm

They’ll probably have to choose between Prado and McCann. At this point, it’s tough to see them keeping both players with these prices.

richbrave

December 6th, 2012
3:08 pm

As I thought and said, REED JOHNSON in the house and plan ‘B’ in effect for LF. Don’t expect any ‘premium’ LF’ers now.

Plan ‘A’ was too high. Other GM’s too greedy for what they were giving up. UPTON, MYERS et. al. Any second thoughts by other GM’s will find our price reduced now that we have JOHNSON, not increased.

As I said before, plan ‘C’ entails prospects from the farm and REED JOHNSON.

Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)

December 6th, 2012
3:10 pm

Juan

“Signed Rick Ankiel one yr deal and Mark reynolds”

Yuck!

Fols

December 6th, 2012
3:11 pm

Prado vs McCann had better be a no-brainer. I’m not the anti-mac like some are and think he’ll have a strong bounce-back season BUT…it’s still the catcher position.

Just like Mauer is sinking the Twins right now with injuries and sub-superstar performances since signing….Mac’s contract could really hurt.

I want to see Prado, Heyward and Freeman locked up!

Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)

December 6th, 2012
3:11 pm

I have a Nasty Feeling that it will be a Reed Johnson/Constanza Platoon in LF…OY

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 6th, 2012
3:13 pm

You forget about Bethancourt. :D Besides, it seems easier to get a serviceable catcher than a 3B, that’s why all the good ones get extended. Prado at 30 I feel comfortable giving
5/60 to… he will likely be a starter all the way through. Mac at 30 and giving him 5 or 6 for at least 16mil per makes me nervous… likely a starter for just 3 or 4 years.

Murph

December 6th, 2012
3:13 pm

Johnson can’t hold up with extended playing time, rich… I’m not sure what Plan B or Plan C entail, but if either include more than 2 or 3 days of starting in a row for Johnson, they ain’t gonna work.

At least, that’s what we were told last season when the Braves picked him up. Too fragile for an everyday role.

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
3:13 pm

Josh Willingham 25hrs 75-80 RBIs [.261/.362/.483/.845]

At this point, though, you’re giving up quite a bit in trade (I assume) to basically have McCann or Uggla or Willingham or Upton hit 7 or 8, with Prado as the best leadoff option. I like deep lineups as much (or more) as anybody, but my first reaction to Willingham now is “piling on”, rather than looking for a more synergistic fit in LF.

Before Upton, the cost and the health risk of Willingham would have been mitigated by filling the RH power void on the team. Now, I’m not so sure he’s the right guy.

Brava

December 6th, 2012
3:13 pm

Jack Curry ‏@JackCurryYES

Cashman said there some very talented players on the free agent market, but, as a whole, he described it was “pitiful.”

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 6th, 2012
3:13 pm

You forget about Bethancourt. :D Besides, it seems easier to get a serviceable catcher than a 3B, that’s why all the good ones get extended. Prado at 30 I feel comfortable giving
5/60 to… he will likely be a starter all the way through. Mac at 30 and giving him 5 or 6 for at least 16mil per makes me nervous… likely a starter for just 3 or 4 years.

richbrave

December 6th, 2012
3:15 pm

“…..Efrim
December 6th, 2012
3:08 pm

They’ll probably have to choose between Prado and McCann. At this point, it’s tough to see them keeping both players with these prices……”

With deference to McFANN, not much of a choice really.

The best hitter on the club, voted ‘Mr. Versatility’ vs. a fantastic offensive hitter that’s aging and average at best defensively.

Go with PRADO for slightly less payroll, and count on BETHANCOURT for the future.

Our next long-term position contract if I were GM. Hands down.

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
3:17 pm

You forget about Bethancourt.

No, I didn’t. That’s why I said, “Don’t have a catcher, either.”

richbrave

December 6th, 2012
3:20 pm

Tomahawkin;:

Get some pills for your migraine. It might in fact be BIFF and JOHNSON if plan”C’ is in effect.

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
3:23 pm

The best hitter on the club, voted ‘Mr. Versatility’ vs. a fantastic offensive hitter that’s aging and average at best defensively.

rich, they’re the same age, aren’t they? I’m not sure which player’s skillset will age better, nor what performance level that aging will produce. I mean, if Prado at 3B is going to be in the same range of money and years as McCann at C, I don’t think it’s a no-brainer one way or the other.

Brava

December 6th, 2012
3:24 pm

Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick

#Royals exploring a group of free agent starters that includes Brett Myers, Kevin Correia and Jair Jurrjens, source says.

Brava

December 6th, 2012
3:25 pm

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal

Official involved in Upton talks: “Not dead. Never has been. But doesn’t have more legs than two weeks ago.” #Diamondbacks #Rangers #Rays

Efrim

December 6th, 2012
3:25 pm

No, I didn’t. That’s why I said, “Don’t have a catcher, either.”

Go get Alex Gordon and let’s wait for Salcedo and Bethancourt to have monster 2013’s……… ;)

Sigh….

Tumbledown

December 6th, 2012
3:26 pm

Is it set in stone that Prado will be at 3b next year verses LF? Just wondering if the Olt option has any vitality.

MFin04

December 6th, 2012
3:26 pm

Sad is the player that the Braves still need in this lineup…Michael Bourn. They need a great defensive CF who can hit leadoff and get on base. But if Upton is gonna be a power guy not an on base guy I’d like to get a .360-.380 on base guy to hit leadoff. If that isn’t available. I’d rather just get a guy to slug .500 with the .350 on base for LF.

richbrave

December 6th, 2012
3:28 pm

Murph:

Plan ‘B’ is a MORSE or WILLINGHAM trade with the incoming LF’er controlled short-term.

Plan ‘C’ is JOHNSON and BIFF, or GATTIS, or FRANCISCO with PRADO platooning in LF.

A player from the farm system. GATTIS” and FRANCISCO’s results down south evidently emboldened WREN to draw lines in the sand where Plan ‘A’ players were concerned.

Patrick

December 6th, 2012
3:29 pm

Hmmm, is anyone surprised that Kansas City is looking at Jurrjens???

abeeeewright

December 6th, 2012
3:29 pm

Yay to Frank Wren for getting Reed Johnson back in the fold … for two years (if the club wants him).

Murph

December 6th, 2012
3:30 pm

#Royals exploring a group of free agent starters that includes Brett Myers, Kevin Correia and Jair Jurrjens, source says.

Those same Tigers officials who were worried about the Royals contending this year just let out a big sigh of relief.

ncscoots

December 6th, 2012
3:30 pm

Is it set in stone that Prado will be at 3b next year verses LF?

Mama Prado sure hopes so. Prado as a LF gets a look and maybe his ear gets nibbled; Prado at 3B gets the car keys, the check book, some credit cards, and the villa in Aspen.

CamNavy

December 6th, 2012
3:30 pm

Just sayin…I like the idea of Constanza in left…

Efrim

December 6th, 2012
3:30 pm

In 2014, the Braves will have a scheduled 11 players eligible for arbitration:

3rd year – Janish
2nd year – Heyward, Medlen, Venters, Martinez
1st year – Freeman, Beachy, Kimbrel, Walden, Francisco, Schafer

I just had to add Jordan in there. For TenneseePaul. ;)

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