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Joe Dirte (Formally J-Man)
December 6th, 2012
11:54 am
succeeds
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 6th, 2012
11:54 am
Who landed the other Cuban OF last year? The A’s got Cespedes, but who got the other guy? The Cubs?
Jorge Soler, Cubs. Played Rookie and A-ball for them. Probably going back to A-ball next season, I think it’s a rush to start him at AA.
Really surprised that they’ve move both Span and Revere… but, they didn’t get a starter to use at the MLB level in return for Span. They coulda had Hanson and Gilmartin
I just hope that we don’t trade for Revere
Ray
December 6th, 2012
11:55 am
Please stop with the “why isn’t Wren talking to the Twins or the Royals or any other club.” Do you know that he isn’t talking to various teams. Do you know what teams he is and is not talking to? That sounds as idiotic as the Braves are going to finish 4th with 75 wins because Wren didn’t accomplish anything at the winter meetings.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
11:55 am
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
One possible outcome in a #Rangers-#Diamondbacks-#Rays three-way trade: Upton to TEX; a TB starter to AZ; Olt, other prospects to TB.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 6th, 2012
11:55 am
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
One possible outcome in a #Rangers-#Diamondbacks-#Rays three-way trade: Upton to TEX; a TB starter to AZ; Olt, other prospects to TB.
Olt to TB? Why? He’s a 3B and I believe he said that he wants to play there… Can’t w/ Longo
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
11:56 am
Revere hit .675 last year and would be used in LF. More of a fallback option, I hope.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 6th, 2012
11:56 am
I’m sure he eats tons of them… kinda sucks when I put a typo in my sarcastic dig
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
11:58 am
Olt would play 1B, TOBF. Not ideal, but maybe the Rays flip him.
tony austin
December 6th, 2012
11:59 am
I would have liked to see FW leave the meetings with a LF, but there is still a long time before spring training. I’m sure he tried but I’d guess the price in prospects was just way too high. Also, with player salaries nowadays, it’s hard to let go of good prospects.
I kind of hope he goes away from the lead-off type hitter and puts an impact bat in the lineup. I guess we’ll see.
Jeff R
December 6th, 2012
12:00 pm
Posting from iPhone as I will need a new computer after this one. 2nd time I’ve spit my coffee on it and shortcircuited the damn thing.
– Efrim
Sippy cup time?
Gone Viral
December 6th, 2012
12:00 pm
God, I hate Liberty Media.
DAP
December 6th, 2012
12:01 pm
ben revere huh?
well i guess thats why wren is the boss. i didnt and still dont see how upton was the best fit, based on our needs, and i dont understand interest in ben revere, either.
O.J.
December 6th, 2012
12:01 pm
Just looked up Todd Cunninghams numbers in the minors, hes a year younger than Revere but had better numbers. I say we give him a chance in the spring and if he doesnt work out, use that extra money on an outfielder then
Joe Dirte (Formally J-Man)
December 6th, 2012
12:03 pm
Just think if we would have just allowed McCann leave we would have an extra 12.5 million dollars. To maybe spend on Josh Hamilton with the other money he have availale.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:03 pm
Adam Rubin @AdamRubinESPN
#Royals actually talked to #Mets more about Jon Niese and Zack Wheeler in trade variations involving Wil Myers — not Dickey. Not happening.
ncscoots
December 6th, 2012
12:03 pm
But yes, this team isn’t going to be in the top two in the division as currently constructed. Need a MAJOR acquisition for LF or 3B.
I continue to be shocked by this opinion. That is, that seven guys are so bad that they have no chance, but that the addition of one guy to that seven will make them a contender. I think you pretty have to own the stupid-shoes store, not just a pair, to think that makes sense.
DAP
December 6th, 2012
12:04 pm
and what the heck are the phillies doing? they have one of the top payrolls in MLB, zero good outfielders and no 3B, and they are asking about ben revere?
Gone Viral
December 6th, 2012
12:05 pm
Re: Constanza, I think he’s probably a 4A player but if the choices are Ben Revere and him, I bank the prospect(s) and give him a chance.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:05 pm
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
Kevin Towers says Dbacks have lots of deals “marinating” but not “sautéing” becauae “sautéing is a little hotter. Where we are is cooler.”
Murph
December 6th, 2012
12:06 pm
Do the Rays and Braves match up at all for anything? Would be nice to pick Olt up for something less than a Simmons-led package.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:06 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Michael youngs approval appears to be the key to philly deal. He lives in texas but has no location on rangers’ field now
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
12:06 pm
God, I hate Liberty Media.
I’d hold off on that. Still holding out hope for Shin Soo Choo and his projected $7 million dollar salary. If they end up going with Francisco and Reed Johnson with Prado shuttling back and forth, then by all means – hate them…..hard.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:07 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
Interesting that Tigers were so active in Rule 5 draft. They think Lobstein could compete with Smyly for 5th starter, also could be LH rel.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:07 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
Twins are interested in Worley plus a pitching prospect if Revere goes to Phillies.
Ray
December 6th, 2012
12:07 pm
@ncscoots, I agree with that assessment. There is no way our 7 guys will be able to compete against all of the other teams especially when they are fielding 9.
Gone Viral
December 6th, 2012
12:07 pm
“Just think if we would have just allowed McCann leave we would have an extra 12.5 million dollars”
What would happen is that fans would think we have an extra $12.5 million while corporate accounting would leave us with about $2.8 million. We’re part of a Liberty Media shell game and our half-coconut is always empty.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:09 pm
Andy Martino @MartinoNYDN
Source: Mets talked to Yanks, Nats re: Dickey this week. Both liked him, but no fit. Yanks don’t have pieces, Alderson wouldn’t trade in div
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
12:09 pm
Ben Revere in CF wouldn’t be terrible. But having him play a corner outfield spot on this team as currently constructed is missing the boat, imo.
CrαZy
December 6th, 2012
12:09 pm
Wonder if we could’ve had Ben Reeve for Tommy Hanson + mid level pitching prospect?
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:10 pm
Andy Martino @MartinoNYDN
Discussions with Nats about DIckey were before they signed Dan Haren.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 6th, 2012
12:10 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Kevin Towers made it clear to us he is looking for a SS he controls more than 2 yrs so no Andrus or Cabrera
Ahmed! Ahmed!
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:10 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Kevin Towers made it clear to us he is looking for a SS he controls more than 2 yrs so no Andrus or Cabrera
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:10 pm
Scott Miller @ScottMCBS
Upton’s trade value higher than ever Towers says b/c of way OF $$ has inflated in Nashville.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
December 6th, 2012
12:11 pm
Damn… Brava
Is Twitter not Driving you Crazy?
It reminds of those stoopid Facebook feeds….
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:11 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Sounds like Towers SS targets are Nick Franklin of Sea or Jurrickson Profar of TX or Andrelton Simmons of AtL
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 6th, 2012
12:12 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Sounds like Towers SS targets are Nick Franklin of Sea or Jurrickson Profar of TX or Andrelton Simmons of AtL
Bahaha
Murph
December 6th, 2012
12:12 pm
Wonder if we could’ve had Ben Reeve for Tommy Hanson + mid level pitching prospect?
Possibly. Not sure who I’d rather have, though… I kinda like the Braves going into the season with the best bullpen in all of baseball. Comforting…
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
12:12 pm
What would happen is that fans would think we have an extra $12.5 million while corporate accounting would leave us with about $2.8 million.
Still early. But if they do choose to go with “internal options”, then destroy John Malone’s group as much as you want.
And I’d also really hope that we hear from Frank Wren on payroll if they did decide to go with internal options or a player making the league minimum. If the payroll is still in the mid-90’s, I’d love to know where that money is going, because unfortunately with the new rules – it can’t go into the draft and/or international free agents with the capped spending rules.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:12 pm
I love Twitter, T. Instant info.
Lew
December 6th, 2012
12:12 pm
So the bullpen is set? I suppose they decided that O’Flaherty just wasn’t going to bring them that stud, lead off, left fielder like some seemed to believe.
DAP
December 6th, 2012
12:12 pm
crazy Wonder if we could’ve had Ben Reeve for Tommy Hanson + mid level pitching prospect?
overpay.
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
12:12 pm
Phillies acquire Ben Revere.
ncscoots
December 6th, 2012
12:13 pm
I agree with that assessment. There is no way our 7 guys will be able to compete against all of the other teams especially when they are fielding 9.
Truthfully, I could probably play LF and hit 8 on this team and they’d be able to contend, LOL.
Regardless of the acquisition for LF, internal or external, hitting 1 or 8, to think this lineup won’t score runs is just not paying attention.
Rick C
December 6th, 2012
12:13 pm
Ha well that was quick.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:13 pm
Todd Zolecki @ToddZolecki
Sources: Phillies acquire Ben Revere from Twins.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 6th, 2012
12:14 pm
From Zolecki…
Multiple sources confirmed to MLB.com this morning the Phillies have acquired outfielder Ben Revere in a trade with the Minnesota Twins. It is unclear who the Phillies have sent to the Twins as part of the trade, but the Twins have been looking for pitching.
Announcement could come later today.
Bullpen is set, so look forward to losing EOF without any compensation… I’d have at least shopped the dude
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:14 pm
Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick
One exec thinks #brewers are still “laying in the weeds” on Josh Hamilton — if Doug Melvin can find a way to move some $$
Gone Viral
December 6th, 2012
12:14 pm
“Still holding out hope for Shin Soo Choo and his projected $7 million dollar salary.”
I absolutely believe this could be posturing by Wren, which has the ring of truth since the Braves have such a refreshing number of player options. I just remember last year that when he said, “I could go war with this team”, he meant it. The belief would be that some combination of the speed player (Constanza), the power player (The White Bear) and the similarly skilled IFers (Mejia and Francisco) would be enough to form a respectable mix of options. Francisco separates from Mejia defensively of course but my focus at the moment is our offensive composition.
The reality would *probably* be that we need a LFer in July.
O.J.
December 6th, 2012
12:15 pm
Well, Philies got Revere
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
12:15 pm
LF John Mayberry, Jr., CF Ben Revere, RF Dom Brown is the Phillies projected outfield right now.
And Kevin Frandsen is their 3rd Baseman.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:15 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
With the Phillies landing Revere, cross another one off the list of possible destinations for Michael Bourn
Lew
December 6th, 2012
12:16 pm
And look, for OnlyBravesFan to remain a twit.
Joe Dirte (Formally J-Man)
December 6th, 2012
12:16 pm
Well if we hant picked up that McCann option we would have an extra 12.5 million to use.
ncscoots
December 6th, 2012
12:16 pm
Well, Philies got Revere
Yawn.
O.J.
December 6th, 2012
12:16 pm
What I dont get is if the DBacks want Profar from Tex, why not take Ahmed from us??
bravesfaninnc
December 6th, 2012
12:17 pm
Who needs Ben Revere and his .294 average and 40 SB. We have Jose Constanza or Jordan Shafer to leadoff! Woo-hoo.
Fols
December 6th, 2012
12:17 pm
So Bourn is officially out of the division……after all that?
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:17 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Worley going in deal to philly for ben revere.
Jeff R
December 6th, 2012
12:17 pm
God, I hate Liberty Media.
Okay, so Liberty sells the Braves. Any guarantee that the next owner would be better? Might be worse, in fact. Remember the devil you know…
CrαZy
December 6th, 2012
12:17 pm
Maybe it’s a good thing we didn’t go for Ben Revere I can’t stand the crooked hat look.
Gone Viral
December 6th, 2012
12:18 pm
“Still early. But if they do choose to go with “internal options”, then destroy John Malone’s group as much as you want.”
Respectfully, I do movie revenue analysis for a living. I’m already quite familiar with how John Malone works. He isn’t called Darth Vader because people adore him.
flange1
December 6th, 2012
12:18 pm
So where is Bourn going to go?
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:18 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
No, Upton is in CF. RT @dtlinderman: If price declines on Bourn due to lack of interest, any chance we make another (lower) offer?
Lew
December 6th, 2012
12:18 pm
O’Flaherty is an integral part of our bullpen, but losing him to Free Sgency without compensation is hardly on a level with not getting compensation for Bourn, or Heyward, or Freeman, etc.. It’s only an issue among the basically clueless, obsessive twits.
Ray
December 6th, 2012
12:18 pm
Wonder what this does with Bourn? I am guessing the Phils are still in on MB.
ncscoots
December 6th, 2012
12:18 pm
LF John Mayberry, Jr., CF Ben Revere, RF Dom Brown is the Phillies projected outfield right now.
And you give up pitching to even get there.
Bat Masterson
December 6th, 2012
12:18 pm
What would happen is that fans would think we have an extra $12.5 million while corporate accounting would leave us with about $2.8 million. We’re part of a Liberty Media shell game and our half-coconut is always empty.
They’re damn good at the game.
Liberty Media Scores Big Pay Day
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1049321-liberty-media-scores-big-pay-day?source=yahoo
BravesFanInMaine
December 6th, 2012
12:19 pm
Who the heck is going to sign bourn now… wow
Murph
December 6th, 2012
12:19 pm
Is there a reason why the Mariners wouldn’t move Franklin for Upton? I get that he’s 21 and has had some good seasons in the minors, but he struggled a bit when moved up to AAA last year.
I’d make that move if I were them.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:19 pm
Jeff Passan @JeffPassan
Royals left winter meetings without any deals. Still talking Shields but price of Myers-plus too much — for now.
DAP
December 6th, 2012
12:20 pm
efrim LF John Mayberry, Jr., CF Ben Revere, RF Dom Brown is the Phillies projected outfield right now.
3rd place here we come…
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 6th, 2012
12:20 pm
Love you too, Lew!
Bourn’s market looking real weak now…. ain’t nobody seem to want him. Maybe the Cubs will take a chance on him late, like in Feb.
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
12:20 pm
What I dont get is if the DBacks want Profar from Tex, why not take Ahmed from us??
Heeee.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:20 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
So Phillies get Revere for CF. Should end up with Michael Young for 3B. Now need one more OF bat, and an 8th inning guy.
glord1
December 6th, 2012
12:21 pm
“What I dont get is if the DBacks want Profar from Tex, why not take Ahmed from us”??
Probably because Profar may be the best field player prospect in baseball right now.
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
12:21 pm
Even if the Phillies use Darin Ruf off of the bench and spot start in him a corner and at 1B, the Phillies team is just not all that good right now.
Also, Worley goes for Revere, so now Tyler Cloyd is their #5 starter.
Gone Viral
December 6th, 2012
12:22 pm
” Any guarantee that the next owner would be better?”
The beauty of a person rather than a multinational conglomerate owning a professional team is self-interest.
ncscoots
December 6th, 2012
12:22 pm
So Phillies get Revere for CF. Should end up with Michael Young for 3B. Now need one more OF bat, and an 8th inning guy.
…and a Medicare supplement policy for the IF.
glord1
December 6th, 2012
12:23 pm
I think the Twins won that trade. Revere is a poor mans Juan Pierre. Worley can pitch.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:23 pm
Jim Salisbury @JSalisburyCSN
Vance Worley and Trevor May to Minn for Ben Revere. He will be Phils’ CF.
Trader Jack
December 6th, 2012
12:24 pm
Phils acquire Revere for Worley and minor league player.
That still leaves Amaro with over $50 million available to spend. Wonder what the hell is on his radar
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
12:24 pm
So Phillies get Revere for CF. Should end up with Michael Young for 3B. Now need one more OF bat, and an 8th inning guy.
If their only additions are Revere and Michael Young, I’m not sure what to say. Looks like they are also cutting payroll as well then…….
Fols
December 6th, 2012
12:24 pm
That Phillies line-up is not all that scary….and that pitching staff isn’t getting better it’s getting a decline.
Worry about the Nats, that’s who we are up against.
Murph
December 6th, 2012
12:24 pm
Hard to believe teams aren’t lining up for a CF on the wrong side of 30 who put up the 2nd half that Bourn put up last year.
Boras is going to have to adjust his expectations a bit.
CrαZy
December 6th, 2012
12:24 pm
The people that complain the loudest about Liberty Media are probably the same group of people that complain the loudest about traffic/parking/cost being the reason they don’t go to games.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 6th, 2012
12:25 pm
Jim Salisbury @JSalisburyCSN
Vance Worley and Trevor May to Minn for Ben Revere. He will be Phils’ CF.
Traded Span to make way for Revere, to trade him too. Whose their new CF now?
glord1
December 6th, 2012
12:27 pm
Phillies – light hitting outfield. No third baseman. Catcher out til June. No fifth starter. Second baseman with 70 year old knees. No bull pen. I think Philly is going to stink.
Mixxo
December 6th, 2012
12:27 pm
The Phils don’t mess around.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:27 pm
MLB @MLB
GM Ned Colletti confirms @Dodgers have graduated from due diligence to negotiating for RHP Zack Greinke: http://atmlb.com/121aXBs
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
12:27 pm
Worley and their 2nd best pitching prospect, Trevor May, for Ben Revere.
I swear I was thinking that would be the bounty, but immediately felt that it was an overpay if that was the case.
Not too bad of a haul for Revere and Span so far: Vance Worley, Trevor May and Alex Meyer. Twins needed power arms in the farm and they got a couple.
Lew
December 6th, 2012
12:27 pm
You love me, too? I should believe this because you were so correct on Hanson having novalue, O’Flaherty would be the lynchpin of a major deal and acquiring Greinke and Bourjos would solve all of our problems?
Mixxo
December 6th, 2012
12:27 pm
The Phils don’t mess around.
u-u-u-urgent!
*cue the sax solo*
Ray
December 6th, 2012
12:27 pm
@Gone, you are correct about a single owner having self interest. Look at Loria and his self interest.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:28 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Ben Revere said he was prepared for the deal and excited to play with Phillies and their Cy Young Award winners #SXM
Lew
December 6th, 2012
12:29 pm
Loria and his self interest or Angelos sticking his nose into all moves and ordinarily making the wrong move?
Gone Viral
December 6th, 2012
12:29 pm
“The people that complain the loudest about Liberty Media are probably the same group of people that complain the loudest about traffic/parking/cost being the reason they don’t go to games.”
Well, I live in Knoxville so I guess my complaint would be gas money.
People who defend Liberty Media are to me suffering the sports equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:30 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
When winter began, Nationals and Phils seemed possible Bourn destinations. Both found CF from Twins instead.
Gone Viral
December 6th, 2012
12:30 pm
I guess this means Willingham is off the table yet again.
Efrim
December 6th, 2012
12:31 pm
SS Rollins
CF Revere
3B Utley
1B Howard
C Ruiz
3B Young
LF Brown
RF Mayberry, Jr.
That is not a very good lineup, imo. They are going to have to continue to pitch lights out.
Brava
December 6th, 2012
12:33 pm
Jim Duquette @Jim_Duquette
Revere told us he hadn’t heard from the #phillies yet but he’ll hit in any part of the lineup. Had 372 PA in #2 spot, 158 PA in leadoff