JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Mike Scioscia just told us that if Peter Bourjos plays every day he sees his outfield alignment as Trout in LF Bourjos in CF and Trumbo inRF
Why wouldn’t Trout play RF? Does Trumbo have a stronger arm than him?
I’ve seen one major move and that was done before Thanksgiving. I guess Hanson/Span trades were legit. But there is still plenty of teams that will make moves.
Maybe we can do a 3-way trade, sending Francisco to the Marlins, the Marlins send a minor league pitcher to the Reds and the Reds send J.J. Hoover to the Braves.
I’m laughing at people’s stuff on here, especially today. The frustration is getting to some because no deal has been made during those meetings for us. Same thing every year around here.
Doubt Wren gets a deal struck any time soon, though I could be way off here.
I’m laughing at people’s stuff on here, especially today. The frustration is getting to some because no deal has been made during those meetings for us. Same thing every year around here.
Doubt Wren gets a deal struck any time soon, though I could be way off here.
Could we get those spatulas that Rose and Millar got yesterday and use them on Braves management for failing to improve the team during winter meetings?
With 2 1/2 months before Spring Training even starts, there is no need to freak out that the Braves didn’t make the signing/trade/offer that some folks demand (whatever that signing/trade/offer would be). They are not going to make a move just to keep the fans from panicking in December.
Does it really make a difference if the Braves are set on Dec 4, Jan 1 Jan 29 or even Feb 1? NO. It only matters that they are ready on opening day, preferably the opening of spring training. But it does not matter if the Braves are set as of this week.
So he travels to Nashville, doesn’t make a deal but instead spends his time extending his questionable manager when that was something that could have been done in his office later this week?
And he’s actually excited about a guy with a .298 OBP who he’s paying $15 million?
With 2 1/2 months before Spring Training even starts, there is no need to freak out that the Braves didn’t make the signing/trade/offer that some folks demand (whatever that signing/trade/offer would be). They are not going to make a move just to keep the fans from panicking in December. – cab
Before this offseason is over, I think the Angels and Dodgers will eventually buy an entire major league team and incorporate them into their minor league system.
Yeah it is, but it’s NOT unlike Jim Bowden to take a comment and spin it into something that we all know Frank would probably never say. He tends to just throw stuff against the wall and see what sticks.
Frank Wren just told us on SiriusXM that they would not do Simmons for JUpton but might have a combo to get him and would like to
The #3 combo at Taco Bell or #19 at Arby’s would do the trick for me. Wonder which combos Justin and Kevin Towers are holding out for? C’mon Frank, take ‘em to dinner! Let them have one for the road, too.
Swisher? Wouldn’t surprise me, though my gut still tells me finding that second OF will wait a while longer and possibly even be a platoon with Johnson if they sign him.
You mean Justin, rich? Wren must have a notion that there’s interest in something he’s thrown out there. It kinda scares me though. What could the DBacks want from us that equates to Simmons? Hope it doesn’t involve Prado. I remember the rumors that he wanted to trade him last season.
BJ Upton admitted that he was going to Philly before his visit to ATL changed his mind… is it possible that while he was here, smilin’ Frank promised him that the team would do all possible to acquire his brother? Could that be what gave us the “edge” on PHI? The comments Wren made within the hour indicate that Braves are still angling to get the other Upton…
Not seeing how a promise to “try” to do everything possible to get Justin Upton would actually swing things for Bossman Junior. Way too easy to turn around later and say “Oh Well. We tried. Sorry.”
Wow. I may have just heard this incorrectly, but some reporter on MLB Network just said the Braves have considered acquiring Dee Gordon and playing him in LF with his speed. Really? That sounds like a stretch..
So a couple of people have asked if anyone knows what the Royals want for Myers. It’s not hard to find out; all you have to do is read what they have said:
1. They are not “looking” to trade Wil Myers. They prefer not to trade him. However, if the right deal comes along, they would rather trade Myers than any of any of their current major league players. Their great preference is to deal using prospects other than Myers.
2. The right deal would involve an established frontline major league pitcher, preferably one with several years of team control left, and one who is already a legitimate ace or has high potential to become one.
It’s going to be interesting to see who FW ends up going after. I’m betting it’ll be somebody who could be a legit leadoff hitter. I really like the idea of keeping our guys intact from Prado (2 slot) thru Simmons at the 8.
Dee Gordon had a few years in the minors where he hit and got on base… but the guy has a disturbingly low number of XBH at first glance.
No arguing his speed, but I don’t see how he’s an upgrade over any internal candidate. Heyward and Upton will steal plenty of bases. If Wren wants a slap hitter he can go with Constanza.
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Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:02 pm
1m Ken Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Angels close on free-agent LH reliever Sean Burnett
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
5:02 pm
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Mike Scioscia just told us that if Peter Bourjos plays every day he sees his outfield alignment as Trout in LF Bourjos in CF and Trumbo inRF
Why wouldn’t Trout play RF? Does Trumbo have a stronger arm than him?
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:02 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Mike Scioscia just told us that if Peter Bourjos plays every day he sees his outfield alignment as Trout in LF Bourjos in CF and Trumbo inRF
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
5:03 pm
I guess all 29 teams have made major moves, while the Braves haven’t done a damn thing.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:03 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Wren: (on Upton) “everybody we’ve talked to, scouts & people that are around, they all chime in that this guys a really good center fielder”
ncgary
December 5th, 2012
5:04 pm
franchesco mispelled on porpoise is gonna ha ve a breakout year somewhere
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:04 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Wren (on Upton signing prior to #WinterMeetings): “I would have hate to have gotten here with that need still in place” #Braves
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
5:06 pm
Did Wren actually talk to MLB scouts and others with MLB experience for their input on Upton?
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:06 pm
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
#Indians talking with #Dodgers about Dee Gordon, sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and me. Would replace Asdrubal if traded.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
5:06 pm
I’ve seen one major move and that was done before Thanksgiving. I guess Hanson/Span trades were legit. But there is still plenty of teams that will make moves.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
5:06 pm
Time to go. Back later.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
5:06 pm
Is Wren talking with other teams or just sight seeing in Nashville?
He’s been in his room watching “We Bought A Zoo” on pay-per-view over and over and over… Wren’s Matt Damon obsession is well known.
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
5:08 pm
Makes sense watching that since it was raining in Nashville yesterday.
flange1
December 5th, 2012
5:09 pm
Trade Francisco to the Marlins for Greg Dobbs and fill you LH PH and bench bat spot.
Lemke's Knuckler
December 5th, 2012
5:09 pm
Maybe we can do a 3-way trade, sending Francisco to the Marlins, the Marlins send a minor league pitcher to the Reds and the Reds send J.J. Hoover to the Braves.
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
5:09 pm
Nats left Nashville yesterday. They are set and ready for next season. Wish the Braves were.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
5:10 pm
He’s been out eating BBQ with DOB.
Lemke's Knuckler
December 5th, 2012
5:11 pm
Evan….clap, clap.
Gattis….clap, clap.
ChattTownBrian
December 5th, 2012
5:13 pm
I’m laughing at people’s stuff on here, especially today. The frustration is getting to some because no deal has been made during those meetings for us. Same thing every year around here.
Doubt Wren gets a deal struck any time soon, though I could be way off here.
ChattTownBrian
December 5th, 2012
5:13 pm
I’m laughing at people’s stuff on here, especially today. The frustration is getting to some because no deal has been made during those meetings for us. Same thing every year around here.
Doubt Wren gets a deal struck any time soon, though I could be way off here.
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
5:13 pm
Could we get those spatulas that Rose and Millar got yesterday and use them on Braves management for failing to improve the team during winter meetings?
Slammin' Helmets, and Breakin' Bats
December 5th, 2012
5:13 pm
SportyNuts: Juan Francisco to the Yankees along with Gattis or Mejia and Spruill ——- for Gardner.
That would actually be an awesome trade if the Yankees went for it.
cabravesfan
December 5th, 2012
5:14 pm
With 2 1/2 months before Spring Training even starts, there is no need to freak out that the Braves didn’t make the signing/trade/offer that some folks demand (whatever that signing/trade/offer would be). They are not going to make a move just to keep the fans from panicking in December.
ncbravesfan90
December 5th, 2012
5:15 pm
JIM BOWDEN@JimBowdenESPNxm
Frank Wren just told us on #SXM that the Braves have the resources to sign a significant FA for LF or farm system to trade for it no hurry
Ray
December 5th, 2012
5:15 pm
Does it really make a difference if the Braves are set on Dec 4, Jan 1 Jan 29 or even Feb 1? NO. It only matters that they are ready on opening day, preferably the opening of spring training. But it does not matter if the Braves are set as of this week.
Mixxo
December 5th, 2012
5:17 pm
If I hear that “….standing in the hall of fame…” song on MLBTV one more time….!
I may choke something.
The A Bomb
December 5th, 2012
5:17 pm
So he travels to Nashville, doesn’t make a deal but instead spends his time extending his questionable manager when that was something that could have been done in his office later this week?
And he’s actually excited about a guy with a .298 OBP who he’s paying $15 million?
Seriously, Frank. Get a clue.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:17 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Frank Wren just told us on #SXM that the Braves have the resources to sign a significant FA for LF or farm system to trade for it no hurry
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:17 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Randy choate gets $7.5M, 3 yrs from #cards, vis @YankeesWFAN (aka sweeny)
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:17 pm
Alden Gonzalez @Alden_Gonzalez
#Angels have signed LH RP Sean Burnett to a 2-year deal with a club option, source said. Pending physical.
ChattTownBrian
December 5th, 2012
5:18 pm
Come on cab! Join the crowd and be ansty!
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:19 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Frank Wren just told us on SiriusXM that they would not do Simmons for JUpton but might have a combo to get him and would like to
Mixxo
December 5th, 2012
5:19 pm
With 2 1/2 months before Spring Training even starts, there is no need to freak out that the Braves didn’t make the signing/trade/offer that some folks demand (whatever that signing/trade/offer would be). They are not going to make a move just to keep the fans from panicking in December. – cab
Well, will you hold my hand then?
ChattTownBrian
December 5th, 2012
5:19 pm
Good! Burnett was a thorn. One less headache.
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
5:20 pm
Having the money doesn’t mean a thing if you don’t do something with the money.
Lemke's Knuckler
December 5th, 2012
5:20 pm
Before this offseason is over, I think the Angels and Dodgers will eventually buy an entire major league team and incorporate them into their minor league system.
cabravesfan
December 5th, 2012
5:21 pm
CTB-
Sorry. When there is reason to panic, I’ll panic. I wouldn’t hold your breathe waiting for that to happen though
ncbravesfan90
December 5th, 2012
5:21 pm
Never heard Wren this open about his plans:
JIM BOWDEN@JimBowdenESPNxm
Frank Wren just told us on SiriusXM that they would not do Simmons for JUpton but might have a combo to get him and would like to
cabravesfan
December 5th, 2012
5:22 pm
Mixxo-
Sorry, but I’m just not sure where that hand has been
ChattTownBrian
December 5th, 2012
5:22 pm
Hmmm wouldn’t count JUpton completely out just yet. Unlike Wren to say something like that.
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
5:23 pm
Marlins GM says Stanton will not be traded.
Mixxo
December 5th, 2012
5:23 pm
Good answer cab.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:25 pm
Amanda Comak @acomak
#Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez talked about how formidable the #Nats are. Admits they remain the team to beat in NL East.
Hillbilly
December 5th, 2012
5:25 pm
Unlike Wren to say something like that.
Yeah it is, but it’s NOT unlike Jim Bowden to take a comment and spin it into something that we all know Frank would probably never say. He tends to just throw stuff against the wall and see what sticks.
Mixxo
December 5th, 2012
5:27 pm
Hmmm wouldn’t count JUpton completely out just yet. Unlike Wren to say something like that.
*rubs hands together furiously with a creepy grin*
Ray
December 5th, 2012
5:29 pm
skeeter, since you are upset that Wren has not made the moves you would like for him to do
ChattTownBrian
December 5th, 2012
5:29 pm
Hillbilly, just let us be excited for a second. I want to believe Wren said those exact words damnit! We need this, I need this!
bring back blauser
December 5th, 2012
5:30 pm
Fredi extended till Chipper is ready to take the helm
ChattTownBrian
December 5th, 2012
5:31 pm
Mixxo, you never know.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
5:33 pm
Frank Wren just told us on SiriusXM that they would not do Simmons for JUpton but might have a combo to get him and would like to
Yeah yeah yeah… combo shmombo.
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
5:37 pm
All right FREDO to kick around for two more.
ChattTownBrian
December 5th, 2012
5:37 pm
“Yeah yeah yeah… combo shmombo”
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:37 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
With Greinke bidding heading to $160 million and perhaps beyond, one Angels person said: “That’s going to blow us out of the water.”
NORRIS
December 5th, 2012
5:38 pm
wrenn didnt say anything about counting justin upton out.
He did say that they had enough money to get swisher.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:38 pm
Jack Magruder @JackMagruder
#Dbacks also have signed minor league free agents RHP Garrett Mock and 3B/OF Mark Teahen w/ spring training invites
C-Chat
December 5th, 2012
5:40 pm
Frank Wren just told us on SiriusXM that they would not do Simmons for JUpton but might have a combo to get him and would like to
The #3 combo at Taco Bell or #19 at Arby’s would do the trick for me. Wonder which combos Justin and Kevin Towers are holding out for? C’mon Frank, take ‘em to dinner! Let them have one for the road, too.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:41 pm
Jason Martinez @mlbdepthcharts
#Pirates acquire LHP Andy Oliver from #Tigers for C Ramon Cabrera. Both players are on the 40-man roster.
blouse those boots than hit it for twenty
December 5th, 2012
5:41 pm
Here’s looking at you, brava
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:42 pm
MLB @MLB
#Phillies’ shopping list? “My first priority would be a center fielder.”- Charlie Manuel. http://instagr.am/p/S3zdzMplgj/
ChattTownBrian
December 5th, 2012
5:42 pm
Swisher? Wouldn’t surprise me, though my gut still tells me finding that second OF will wait a while longer and possibly even be a platoon with Johnson if they sign him.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:42 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Fredi was asked where he thought Upton would hit in lineup. Said he has him fourth for now but could hit anywhere in middle of order #Braves
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
5:42 pm
heh! That one was for you lady.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:43 pm
Is that you, rich?
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:43 pm
Ha! Thought so.
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
5:45 pm
ChattTownBrian:
I think JOHNSON should be in BRAVA’s platoon.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:46 pm
Jason Martinez @mlbdepthcharts
The #Tigers had moved Andy Oliver to a relief role. No word on whether the #Pirates will keep him in that role of allow him to start again.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:47 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Burnett with #Angels is 2 yrs with club option, pending physical. Late innings: Burnett, Downs from left side, Madson, Frieri from right.
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
5:48 pm
‘Zup lady? What you thinkin’ on this B.J. UPTON sitrep?
Murph
December 5th, 2012
5:48 pm
I was under the impression that even a platoon would be too much playing time for Johnson with his chronic injury issues… true or not true?
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
5:49 pm
Mine is 98.6.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:53 pm
You mean Justin, rich? Wren must have a notion that there’s interest in something he’s thrown out there. It kinda scares me though. What could the DBacks want from us that equates to Simmons? Hope it doesn’t involve Prado. I remember the rumors that he wanted to trade him last season.
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
5:53 pm
Murph:
I don’t think BRAVA allows a lot of playing in her platoon. Maybe a few cudgel-sticks fun, but that’s about it.
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
5:54 pm
Just your thoughts on his brother becoming a BRAVE.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:55 pm
Oh, I’m cautiously optimistic about BJ, not thrilled about it. I hope the change of scenery and a new start helps him live up to his potential.
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
5:55 pm
.
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
5:57 pm
Brava:
Same degree of circumspection here, 98.6. I’m waiting for his first 100 AB’s next season to make an evaluation.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:58 pm
Me, too, rich.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
5:59 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
When and if the Nats sign LaRoche don’t be surprised if Mike Morse is dealt for prospects so Nats can replenish Farm System
C-Chat
December 5th, 2012
6:01 pm
BJ Upton admitted that he was going to Philly before his visit to ATL changed his mind… is it possible that while he was here, smilin’ Frank promised him that the team would do all possible to acquire his brother? Could that be what gave us the “edge” on PHI? The comments Wren made within the hour indicate that Braves are still angling to get the other Upton…
Brava
December 5th, 2012
6:02 pm
Bernie Pleskoff @BerniePleskoff
#Rangers 1B Chris McGuiness named MVP of Arizona Fall League. Rangers loaded with talent could not protect him. Could be gone in Rule 5.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
6:03 pm
That’s a possibility, C-Chat.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
6:05 pm
It could just be the money, though, if reports of the Phillies’ offer are correct.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
6:07 pm
Not seeing how a promise to “try” to do everything possible to get Justin Upton would actually swing things for Bossman Junior. Way too easy to turn around later and say “Oh Well. We tried. Sorry.”
Brava
December 5th, 2012
6:10 pm
Talking Chop @gondeee
Morosi reporting the Braves might be looking at Dee Gordon on the Dodgers to play left. Interesting.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
6:11 pm
I’m sure Wren is doing/has done all he can to try and get Justin Upton… A happy Melvin is going to be a more productive Melvin.
O'Ventbrel
December 5th, 2012
6:11 pm
Wow. I may have just heard this incorrectly, but some reporter on MLB Network just said the Braves have considered acquiring Dee Gordon and playing him in LF with his speed. Really? That sounds like a stretch..
Brava
December 5th, 2012
6:11 pm
Or to flip for Justin?
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Dbacks still working to get adrubal. #indians looking at stephen drew, dee gordon as possible replacements
nobody
December 5th, 2012
6:12 pm
Uggla to Dodgers. Dee Gordon and Tehran to Dbacks. JUpton to Braves. Wouldnt that just be lovely. Merry Christmas! haha
Murph
December 5th, 2012
6:12 pm
Dee Gordon last season:
.228/.280/.281/.561
56 OPS+
Sounds about right.
Nowhere man
December 5th, 2012
6:13 pm
Great picture of Fredi tipping his hat on AJC. That’s all we will get the next two years.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
6:14 pm
Jason Martinez @mlbdepthcharts
Sean Burnett gets 2 yrs, $8M w/ ‘15 club option from #Angels. Thought he’d get more. One of better LH relievers around. Only 30 yrs old.
Mixxo
December 5th, 2012
6:14 pm
no way nobody.
Uggla put this team on his back the first half of last season. ♥
Brava
December 5th, 2012
6:15 pm
Yikes, Murph. I’d rather have Georgie.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
6:17 pm
Steve Berthiaume @BertDbacks
RT/@Dbacks: Kevin Towers: “I’ve had more multi-team talks this year than ever before. In every discussion it seems 3 or 4 teams involved.”
geo
December 5th, 2012
6:18 pm
So a couple of people have asked if anyone knows what the Royals want for Myers. It’s not hard to find out; all you have to do is read what they have said:
1. They are not “looking” to trade Wil Myers. They prefer not to trade him. However, if the right deal comes along, they would rather trade Myers than any of any of their current major league players. Their great preference is to deal using prospects other than Myers.
2. The right deal would involve an established frontline major league pitcher, preferably one with several years of team control left, and one who is already a legitimate ace or has high potential to become one.
old man
December 5th, 2012
6:19 pm
I leave for 3 hours, and this is all you guys have accomplished?
Pathetic.
CB
December 5th, 2012
6:19 pm
I don’t believe that one on Dee Gordon, Wren is smarter than that.
DS1
December 5th, 2012
6:19 pm
It’s going to be interesting to see who FW ends up going after. I’m betting it’ll be somebody who could be a legit leadoff hitter. I really like the idea of keeping our guys intact from Prado (2 slot) thru Simmons at the 8.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
6:20 pm
Dee Gordon had a few years in the minors where he hit and got on base… but the guy has a disturbingly low number of XBH at first glance.
No arguing his speed, but I don’t see how he’s an upgrade over any internal candidate. Heyward and Upton will steal plenty of bases. If Wren wants a slap hitter he can go with Constanza.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
6:20 pm
Jason Martinez @mlbdepthcharts
#Padres RHP Andrew Cashner out 3 months after lacerating thumb tendon in hunting accident. Likely to start on DL.