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raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
4:03 pm
Oh, and Wren doesn’t even know that he is required to publicly divulge evey bit of inside information he has, every move he wants to make, and what he is willing to pay for those moves. After all, theres a bunch of whiny fans that demand to know.
nolie
December 5th, 2012
4:03 pm
the onliest time that Murph worries is when he has to discipline the 4 tear old
Brava
December 5th, 2012
4:03 pm
Brittany Ghiroli @Britt_Ghiroli
#Orioles have signed relief pitcher Adam Russell. 29-year-old righty announced it on his facebook page.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
4:03 pm
Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1
Ibanez prefers #Yankees, but NYY slow to move with $. #Mariners interest real and Ibanez owns home in Sea, it is where he will retire to
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
4:05 pm
Rest in peace, Dave Brubeck. Let’s all “Take 5″.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
4:06 pm
Troy Renck @TroyRenck
Not saying Yankees’ tightening belt. But at this point, I half expect them to dominate the Rule 5 draft tomorrow.
Trader Jack
December 5th, 2012
4:06 pm
in 2011 Emil Bonifacio, now a Blue Jay, hit .296 for the Marlins but struckout 129 times with only 5 HRS; another free swinger in the free-swinging Braves’ lineup.
I’d take him for LF if the price wasn’t too high, but he’s far from ideal as a leadoff hitter. Maybe hitting 7th, Uggla 8th, and Simmons leadoff ?
SportyNuts
December 5th, 2012
4:06 pm
Does anybody have any insight into the signing of Ryan Harvey? Was that move simply for depth or is it intended to be something more? Really interested in this guy, ’cause the dude absolutely raked for Lancaster in 2012.
Ray
December 5th, 2012
4:07 pm
oh my, Yanks moving slow. Cashman must go. That ownership with all of the deep pockets they must sell the team. Last year the Marlins were the talk of the winter meetings and that got them where?
bravesfaninnc
December 5th, 2012
4:08 pm
DOB – you sure Frank’s got his phone turned on? Been terribly quiet on the Braves front this week.
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
4:09 pm
Last year the Marlins were the talk of the winter meetings and that got them where?
An empty stadium and a payroll that is less than the cost of the stadium’s HR monstrosity.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
4:10 pm
In fact, we all need a “Time Out” to “Take Five”.
ncgary
December 5th, 2012
4:10 pm
well ive been asking my magic eight ball all day long if there will be a Christmas this year, nd i repeatedly get no/ so there you have it the mayans and the eight ball have spoken.
as they say somewhere
enjoy
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
4:13 pm
so there you have it the mayans and the eight ball have spoken.
I’m going to spend the holidays in the Caymans, so when I float off the face of the earth on the 21st, at least I’ll be tanned and looking good.
nolie
December 5th, 2012
4:15 pm
the opening bars of Take Five were once the theme music for the TODAY SHOW. Great piece in 5/4 time. Very unusual back in the day. RIP Dave
Tumbledown
December 5th, 2012
4:15 pm
Between Wren’s “failings” at the Winter meetings, the Mayan prophesy, and the fiscal cliff, all hope is obviously lost. May as well announce that Constanza is our starting LF.
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
4:16 pm
the opening bars of Take Five were once the theme music for the TODAY SHOW
Was that back in the Dave Garroway days or more recently?
nolie
December 5th, 2012
4:16 pm
May as well announce that Constanza is our starting LF.
no way I wanna die thinking that Georgie is starting for us
Chief Knock-A-Homa
December 5th, 2012
4:16 pm
@wigwamwisps Fairly steep, but well worth it I have to think… You add that average and bat and this team is looking better than it has in years…
Not to mention, none of the OF options being discussed are going to be much of anything except money spent…
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
4:18 pm
May as well announce that Constanza is our starting LF.
That might actually cause the end of civilization.
Luman Harris
December 5th, 2012
4:19 pm
Fredi Gonzalez extended through 2014, DOB tweets
Brava
December 5th, 2012
4:19 pm
Amanda Comak @acomak
RT @braves: GM Frank Wren announced (club) has exercised its one-year option on the contract of manager Fredi Gonzalez (signed through 2014)
nolie
December 5th, 2012
4:20 pm
it was about the time that Dave left in what? 61 or so. maybe right after
ncbravesfan90
December 5th, 2012
4:20 pm
DKnobler@DKnobler
If Braves get an outfielder, they may trade Juan Francisco (Prado would play third). Marlins, Rays interested.
nolie
December 5th, 2012
4:20 pm
Go Fredi!!!
Brava
December 5th, 2012
4:21 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
If Braves get an outfielder, they may trade Juan Francisco (Prado would play third). Marlins, Rays interested.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
4:21 pm
Talking Chop @gondeee
Braves hired 2 new scouts, Dave Holliday and Brad Sloan.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
4:21 pm
nolie – The breadth of your knowledge never ceases to amaze me.
Juan
December 5th, 2012
4:21 pm
BEST SIGN OF THE WINTER……FREDDIE…..FREDDIE
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
4:23 pm
Was J Fred Muggs dancing to the music?
O.M.G.
December 5th, 2012
4:23 pm
So that is what Frank and Fredi have been working on all week. Well now with that settled, maybe we can get back to finding a LFer.
nolie
December 5th, 2012
4:23 pm
Francisco for Zobrist seems fair……
Brava
December 5th, 2012
4:23 pm
Jason Martinez @mlbdepthcharts
RT @BerniePleskoff #Indians Francona listed his rotation as Ubaldo, Masterson, McAllister, Kluber and Carrasco. Hoping Carrasco is healthy.
kenhotlanta
December 5th, 2012
4:25 pm
Dave Garroway, Frank Blair, Jack Lescoulie, J. Fred Muggs. That was in another galaxy, a long, long time ago, scoots.
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
4:25 pm
Enter your comments here
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
4:27 pm
Wren is at work. Instead on working on improving the team, he has just picked up option on Fredi for 2014 season. Whoppee!
SportyNuts
December 5th, 2012
4:27 pm
Was picking up that option really that important that we’re doing it during the winter meetings? I thought we were supposed to be finding left fielders and bench players… *sigh*
Mixxo
December 5th, 2012
4:27 pm
Dave, could you please email me Frank’s cell #?
I have a couple ideas I’d like to run past him.
Thanks.
C-Chat
December 5th, 2012
4:27 pm
How’s about Francisco to NY Yankees now that they have missed out on their top 2 choices for 3rd base? What do Yanks have that Braves need?
Mixxo
December 5th, 2012
4:28 pm
Francisco for Zobrist seems fair……
ZOMG!
Tumbledown
December 5th, 2012
4:29 pm
C-Chat- What do Yanks have that Braves need?
About twenty plus World Series championships!!
Brava
December 5th, 2012
4:30 pm
Francisco for Zobrist seems fair……
Yeah, sounds like a great deal for the Rays to me.
Caseyatthebat
December 5th, 2012
4:30 pm
DOB——-Any talk of trading for Willingham?
Murph
December 5th, 2012
4:30 pm
If the Rays want Francisco any chance they can be talked into giving up Zobrist? The guy is an OBP machine.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
4:31 pm
Makes sense, I guess. Fredi did a good enough job in 2012 and seemed to learn a bit from his mistakes that he made in 2011.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
4:33 pm
I’ll take a minor league prospect for Francisco and maybe that’s why they are looking at RH and LH pinch hitters.
Laird, Janish, Mejia, Johnson and LH PH not named Juan Francisco.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
4:35 pm
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
Randy Choate has agreed to a deal with the #STLCardinals. More to come at http://ESPN.com
Lew
December 5th, 2012
4:36 pm
Yeah, fire Wren for taking all of a couple of minutes to pick up Fredi’s option. Sheesh.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
4:36 pm
Teheran and Francisco for Zobrist… he is not represented by Boras, meaning there might actually be a chance of extending him beyond the single season.
OPS+ of 138 last season. He’s the Anti-Upton, just what the team needs to balance out BJ.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
4:36 pm
I’ll take a minor league prospect for Francisco and maybe that’s why they are looking at RH and LH pinch hitters.
Still like my deal from earlier this morning the best w/regard to Francisco… ( :
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
4:36 pm
Well, lots of information gathering I guess for Wren and co. during these meetings(and it seems every other team in the sport). I’m sure it’ll be a very busy few weeks leading up to Christmas.
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
4:37 pm
Marlins are interested in Juan Francisco. Why doesn’t Wren ship him, Delgado and Teheran to Marlins for Stanton?
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
4:37 pm
That was in another galaxy, a long, long time ago,
Man, just think about the times we’ve lived through from that day to this. It boggles, don’t it?
Brava
December 5th, 2012
4:37 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
#Angels seem – repeat, seem – more focused on tier of starting pitchers below Greinke. Could sign two for less than what Greinke might get.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
4:38 pm
Teheran and Francisco for Zobrist
I don’t see the Rays, with more quality pitching depth than the Braves and a desire to increase offensive-output after losing Upton, being interested in that deal what-so-ever.
For crazy deals, go to South Florida.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
4:38 pm
Maybe they should feed him intravenously and strap a bag to his leg and catheterize him so he doesn’t waste time hitting the restroom.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
4:38 pm
Crazy deals? How about Francisco and Teheran for Stanton?
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
4:40 pm
Hamilton, Greinke, Bourn, Swisher, Sanchez, Jackson, Lohse, LaRoche, Soriano, Ludwick, Ross all still out there past the Winter Meetings.
Something like 3 major trades made and 1 of them was made because the Marlins are a disgrace.
Earlier non-tender/qualifying dates did not speed up the process of the offseason at all for teams. Gaping holes for a lot of teams still.
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
4:40 pm
Maybe they should feed him intravenously and strap a bag to his leg and catheterize him so he doesn’t waste time hitting the restroom.
I like it.
Though I wish you had mentioned this on Monday, when it could have done some good.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
4:40 pm
Crazy deals? How about Francisco and Teheran for Stanton?
Not. Crazy. Enough. ( :
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
4:43 pm
Crazy deals?
How about Teheran, Delgado, Gilmartin, Bethancourt and Graham for Stanton?
Brava
December 5th, 2012
4:43 pm
Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1
#Yankees have been talking to Mark Reynolds reps about 3B. He is bad fielder, Ks ton, but huge power as NYY know 1st hand from last yr
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
4:43 pm
Earlier non-tender/qualifying dates did not speed up the process of the offseason at all for teams.
Nope. But it did speed up the “who’s going to get a draft comp” process.
I like that new process much better than the Type A/B stuff. Makes much more sense.
jmart1951
December 5th, 2012
4:43 pm
Trades are often predicated upon other trades or signings happening first. For all we know the Braves may have three trade scenarios already agreed to by other teams depending upon if the other team signs a free agent or pulls off another trade.
With the pitching market (something the Braves have plenty of) on hold until Greinke signs other major pitching decisions are mainly on hold.
Same to a degree with Hamilton, but not as much.
Waiting for others to pull the trigger before your trade becomes viable is frustrating surely.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
4:43 pm
Not crazy enough? How about just Francisco for Stanton and Ruggiano, then we have our back up outfielder, too?
Murph
December 5th, 2012
4:44 pm
I don’t see the Rays, with more quality pitching depth than the Braves and a desire to increase offensive-output after losing Upton, being interested in that deal what-so-ever.
Ok, throw in Constanza too. That ought to work. If they still hem and haw, add Mejia, but only after making them squirm for a while.
In all seriousness, I wish the teams did match up, ’cause Zobrist would be icing on the cake. Oh, how nice it would be to have a guy who walks almost as many times as he strikes out.
C-Chat
December 5th, 2012
4:44 pm
Zobrist is signed for $20 million over next 3 years (2014 and 2015 option years). Very affordable/reasonable. Rays would be foolish to move him now.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
4:44 pm
How about Teheran, Delgado, Gilmartin, Bethancourt and Graham for Stanton?
Weak. This is the Fish. Get a list of expendable relievers and utility players and let them take their pick…. Pastornicky, Francisco and Walden for Stanton…. Now we’re talking crazy.
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
4:44 pm
Why is Wren so occupied with picking up option on Fredi for 2014? Didn’t Bobby work on 1 yr contracts every year. Wren could have worried about Fredi before winter meetings or after. It wasn’t that big of a concern.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
4:45 pm
How about just Francisco for Stanton and Ruggiano, then we have our back up outfielder, too?
That’s the spirit Lew!
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
4:45 pm
Pastornicky, Francisco and Walden for Stanton
Walden is unreachable.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
4:46 pm
I like that new process much better than the Type A/B stuff. Makes much more sense.
I’m so happy the supplemental round isn’t going to be a combined two rounds length because of middle relievers being offered arbitration. Hated that. Makes so much more sense this way.
Now the question is….will the Atlanta Braves ever again have multiple early draft picks? Like, ever again?
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
4:46 pm
Could we ship Schafer to Marlins also!
Lew
December 5th, 2012
4:47 pm
No, not that big a concern – except to bitchy posters. It’s over and done with. NO more time needs to be spent on it more than the fve minutes or so that Wren spent making the announcement.
kenhotlanta
December 5th, 2012
4:47 pm
“Man, just think about the times we’ve lived through from that day to this. It boggles, don’t it?”
Yes and it went by so darn fast.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
4:47 pm
Weak. This is the Fish. Get a list of expendable relievers and utility players and let them take their pick….
Ha! I was sort of hoping I’d see a post saying that is too much to give up for Stanton……
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
4:47 pm
Could we ship Schafer to Marlins also!
Why the hell not? Send him on down.
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
4:48 pm
If the Braves go to playoffs and WS they won’t get early draft picks. No Braves fan would be disappointed with that.
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
4:49 pm
Yes and it went by so darn fast.
Hey, when you’re havin’ fun…LOL
Lew
December 5th, 2012
4:49 pm
Let’s see – must have taken half of forever to do that option. Since Fredi was already there, Wren handed him a contract that someone handed him and Fredi signed it. Wren then told the janitor and it was all over Twitter in seconds.
Time elapsed, 4.35 minutes.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
4:50 pm
scoots – Boggles, indeed. Even mopr boggling is tho think what my 93 year old dad has lived through. I can’t really know what WW II and the Great Depression were like, just like the kids today will never understand the cold war, the civil rights movement, Viet Nam times, the 3 assasinations in the 60’s, the space race, the “Brittish Invation”, etc. Boggle on.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
4:50 pm
I wonder what the reaction around the meetings would be if Wren walked into the middle of the room and announced that BMac is available… would it be like Trading Places where every GM runs over at the same time, yelling out their bids, or would a hush fall over the room as the GM’s turned in their seats to look at Wren, then shook their heads and went back to what they were doing?
Ray
December 5th, 2012
4:50 pm
Crazy is the common denominator there.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
4:50 pm
The Phillies right now have a projected outfield of LF Darin Ruf, CF John Mayberry. Jr, and RF Dom Brown. Kevin Frandsen at 3rd Base.
Whoa!
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
4:51 pm
Marlins owner would probably fall for trade if we offered Francisco, Teheran , Delgado and Schafer for Stanton. 4 players for one. Great Deal.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
4:51 pm
Damn typos. mopr = more, tho = to
Lew
December 5th, 2012
4:51 pm
And most of the 4.35 minutes spent looking for a pen that worked.
Mountain Braves Fan
December 5th, 2012
4:51 pm
If the Braves do resign Reed Johnson, could we please get the Chicago version and not the Atlanta version?
Johnson with Cubs: .302 BA, .355 OBP, .444 SLG, .799 OPS, 118 OPS+.
Johnson with ATL: .270 BA, .305 OBP, .320 SLG, .625 OPS, 69 OPS+.
Johnson will be 36 on December 8th. Have to wonder if this is a statistical aberration in a small sample size (only 100 ATL at bats, 169 CHI at bats) or the beginning of decline.
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
4:53 pm
Efrim, Ruben Amaro probably has trade lined up already. Seems like every year he comes out of woodwork with a major trade or signing.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
4:53 pm
If the Braves go to playoffs and WS they won’t get early draft picks. No Braves fan would be disappointed with that.
Moreso talking about them signing free agents with draft picks tied to them. Wren has done this four times in his six offseasons with the club.
Partly because the Braves are competitive and that’s the price you pay at times, but four outta six is certainly not giving his bud DeMacio much to work with.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
4:53 pm
Speaking of crazy, where is CraZy? He hasn’t been on in a while.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
4:55 pm
ken – Faster than a Gattis home run.
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
4:55 pm
Even mopr boggling is tho think what my 93 year old dad has lived through.
He’s still alive? Good for him. My mother finally passed away at 92, this year. Biggest smile I ever saw on her face was the day she sent her first email.
MiaBchBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
4:57 pm
I can pinpoint the moment the marlins fell in love with Francisco: last July, on a day game Wed., when he hit that mammoth bomb into the OF upper deck at Marlins’ Park. Juan made that park look pretty small that day.
DAP
December 5th, 2012
4:57 pm
efrim The Phillies right now have a projected outfield of LF Darin Ruf, CF John Mayberry. Jr, and RF Dom Brown. Kevin Frandsen at 3rd Base.
Whoa!
woah is right. and people on here are worried we wont compete with them. they cant even field 9 MLB players right now.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
4:57 pm
Ruben Amaro probably has trade lined up already.
I’d bet more than just Ruben have a trade proposal on their desk. It’s four days of information gathering following near eight weeks of information gathering for the information gathering.
There are 24 hours in the day – how long can Wren and his crew talk about trade scenarios with other teams?
SportyNuts
December 5th, 2012
4:58 pm
Juan Francisco to the Yankees along with Gattis or Mejia and Spruill ——- for Gardner.
skeeter
December 5th, 2012
5:00 pm
Is Wren talking with other teams or just sight seeing in Nashville?
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
5:00 pm
scoots – Yep, Dad’s slipping a little, but he can still tell you WW II stories. I never can get any details about the time he spent in Paris after the Germans surrendered.
MiaBchBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
5:01 pm
“Johnson will be 36 on December 8th. Have to wonder if this is a statistical aberration in a small sample size (only 100 ATL at bats, 169 CHI at bats) or the beginning of decline.”
Johnson’s .300 plus AB was done while playing for a Cubs team that was going nowhere; just pleasant, pressure-free AB’s on a second tier team. His .270 came during a playoff run, on a team fighting for a playoff spot. Which beggars a question: do we really need to chase after Johnson’s .270 when others could be had at a fraction of the cost?