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JoeFan
December 5th, 2012
11:20 am
Wren will likely wait until spring training to see whether the answer to the LF/3B situation lies in his own backyard. Some mix of Gattis, Francisco and Prado may well provide the solution.
old man
December 5th, 2012
11:20 am
BravePack(FreeFan),
Yep, even if you don’t love BJ, you gotta really pull hard for him next year, just to see George_George eat his words.
unbelievable
December 5th, 2012
11:21 am
I would not trade Graham for one year of Choo if it came down to it.
Some have Graham as our #2 prospect behind Teheran going into next year. I wouldnt trade Delgado, Graham, Teheran, or Sims for one year of Choo
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
11:21 am
Indians are looking for one MLB ready plus 2 other prospects
Sounds like Pastornicky plus Todd Cunningham and Collin Delome.
Venice Jim
December 5th, 2012
11:21 am
chipl1960 – Jungleland would be near the top, but Born to Run is #2 for me. We were unable to go when he was in LA in April, so I was glad we got the chance last night. I was impressed by how well Jake Clemons fit in, and he got a great reaction from the crowd…
And I have no problem with folks who are not fans – it would be even harder to get tickets if everyone was…
Rick C
December 5th, 2012
11:21 am
“by far overpaid BJ.”
In comparison to the market, no we did not.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
11:21 am
Ha! You are just dying to trade one of those starters.
Medlen, Minor, Hudson, Maholm, Delgado, Teheran, Gilmartin, Graham, Spruill, Hale
Someone’s gotta go. And I want Delgado and Graham to stay…
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:22 am
George_George – I’ve never been a Bossman Junior fan, either, but maybe you need to do what I’m doing – pretend it’s Christmas all year long and instead of dreaming of visions of sugarplums, dream of the 60-70 XBH’s Upton will have this year.
Besides – not as if we’re not already conditioned to watching Braves players strike out.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
11:22 am
Indians are looking for one MLB ready plus 2 other prospects. That price is not worth a 1 yr rental
Gilmartin, Cunningham, and Salcedo… that’s worth a year of Choo.
chipl1960
December 5th, 2012
11:24 am
It is the lowest time for me to have to continuously read your drivel. As i stated yesterday,BJ Uptons AVERAGE production and stats for 8 YEARS is: OBP 336. OPS 758. SB 39. HR 20. RBI 75. THOSE ARE AVERAGES GEORGE. Does anyone think it is reasonable for him to improve those averages entering his age 28 season AND hitting in a better lineup? And, who would you have signed instead? Bourn is rumored to be getting around 100 million. Could Bourn give us this production? The answer is no and he is going to be MORE expensive. Would you give it a rest and lets see how 2013 plays out before judging. I want you to be available for the blog to bash you when he exceeds ALL these averages at the end of 2013.
Lee in S GA
December 5th, 2012
11:24 am
“Like David Ross I believe that most Braves fans think that Reed johnson is going to automatically resign with the Braves.”
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If he is like most he will go whereever the top $ sign appears.
George_George
December 5th, 2012
11:24 am
Venice Jim
December 5th, 2012
11:10 am
I am sure it was a great show VJ.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
11:24 am
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Rival official on Indians: “The price for Choo is high, and for Asdrubal even higher.”
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
11:25 am
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Rival official on Indians: “The price for Choo is high, and for Asdrubal even higher.”
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
11:25 am
BravePack – “blah, blah, blah….” INDEED.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
11:26 am
ninja’d
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
11:26 am
I would not trade Graham for one year of Choo if it came down to it.
I dunno, I might. I wouldn’t just hang up the phone, anyway. Some concern about his third pitch, and Walden’s acquisition takes away some luster from his becoming a late-inning guy. I’d have to sleep on that one a night or two.
unbelievable
December 5th, 2012
11:26 am
Gilmartin, by himself, is probably worth the year of Choo. Thats equal to the draft pick that they would be receiving + the salary relief.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
11:27 am
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Lots of Braves-related chatter on Twitter. All I can say is that you guys have talked more about Ellsbury than the Braves have.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:27 am
OnlyBraves – Yeah, you DO want to trade whoever you don’t like. I have yet to hear anything that suggest that Graham, Sruill or Hale are ready for prime time and haven’t heard anyone suggest it’s time to move Gilmartin to the MLB rotation.
You wanted Hanson gone and now you want Teheran, Delgado (yeah, you know you do) and Maholm gone, too – not to mention you’d like to trade half the bullpen as well. You do realize we use 8-10 starters annually? And you already don’t believe Hudson, Minor or Medlen are worth much of anything so it makes perfect sense to run a bunch of rookies out ther, doesn’t it?
Brava
December 5th, 2012
11:27 am
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Rival official on Red Sox: “Boston is listening on… Ellsbury and Lester, but not motivated to move them unless teams overpay.”
George_George
December 5th, 2012
11:28 am
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:22 am
Hopeing your dreams come true Lew.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
11:30 am
Medlen, Minor, Hudson, Maholm, Delgado, Teheran, Gilmartin, Graham, Spruill, Hale
Someone’s gotta go.
Medlen, Minor, Hudson, Maholm are all in the majors.
Delgado and Teheran: One in the majors one as the 6th starter.
Gilmartin, Graham, Spruill, Hale, not ready for the show. Won’t be knocking at the door this year unless you trade Deglado and Teheran and then you have the problem of those are the fall back options. If the team is going to “trade from depth” it will do as it has done in the past… Take the Teixeira trade. Elvis Andrus and Salty were depth trades. Andrus was 4 deep (Edgar, Yunel, Lillibridge were ahead of him). Salty was blocked by McCann. So put that list of pitchers you so eagerly wish to thin out in order of progress/proximity to majors and then pick the bottom one. It’s one stinking year of Choo.
kenhotlanta
December 5th, 2012
11:30 am
raleighbravefan: I loved the Atlanta Flames and went to many of their games…the Omni was an exciting place back then. I could never really get into the Thrashers except for the couple of years they contended.
old man
December 5th, 2012
11:30 am
Maybe the rumor on Choo is really Spruill or Gilmartin, plus some cash. That would make some sense.
Teheran, I would save as part of an Upton, Gordon, or Myer deal.
jax
December 5th, 2012
11:31 am
-Braves have a real good MLB LF – Martin Prado-Jason and Upton-NOT BAD
-need right handed power hitting 3B if Brian comes back
-if McCann doesn’t then LH Francisco needs to step up or out -
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
11:31 am
Graham for Choo is a gamble but Teheran is crazy? Nah… I think Graham is a possible #2 if he gets the 3rd pitch, or Kimbrel’s replacement. He won’t disappoint.
Delgado (yeah, you know you do)
I don’t want him gone…. I’d only trade him if absolutely necessary, I’d rather keep him over Teheran. (for a superstar like Upton). Don’t want Maholm gone, but if we signed Greinke, why would he be needed? I do think our top3 starters are worth something, but just not as good as we need to compete with the Nats. They throw too slow.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
11:33 am
I dunno, I might. I wouldn’t just hang up the phone, anyway. Some concern about his third pitch, and Walden’s acquisition takes away some luster from his becoming a late-inning guy. I’d have to sleep on that one a night or two.
Couldn’t you say the same about Teheran at this point re: the third pitch? And with his velocity and command…..I’d be very reluctant to trade Graham for a one year rental. I think Gilmartin, Spruill, Ahmed, Cunningham, etc…..that second tier of prospects.
To me, Simmons, Teheran, Delgado, Graham, Bethancourt, Sims, Wood, M. Cabrera and Jose Peraza are prospects and young players(Simmons, Delgado) I’d really try to keep within the org. unless we’re getting players with 2 years or more of control.
George_George
December 5th, 2012
11:35 am
I know Lew does not agree, but I think ELLSBURY would have been a very good leadoff hitter and CFder for us.
Patrick
December 5th, 2012
11:35 am
Does it annoy anyone else when all these players like Mejia, Mujica (not sure how to spell his last name) Francisco andGattis. Players that are closer to 30 than 21 that are “tearing it up” in winter leagues are all of the sudden given the impression that they have “broken out” and are ready to contribute in a major way (like being a starter) on a “contending” team when the regular season starts?
Personally, I do not care at all if any of these players break records in winter ball or even the AFL because if they haven’t proven that they can excel, or at least be consistently productive, in the major leagues or have had a consistently strong minor league career progression then I take all of those #’s they are putting up with these offseason leagues with a big grain of salt. It does not mean that all of the sudden they are ready to be the starting 3rd baseman for a team that went to the playoffs and is going to be heavily counted on for production, just because they had a huge winter leauge. I’m sorry to come off like a jerk, but let’s face facts, they are not playing against the same level of talent that they’ll have to when the regular season begins.
I barely even get exicted if a career minor leaguer has had the best spring training ever, they never pan out. I remember a couple of years ago there was a great story about a career minor league outfielder (his name escapes me) that won the last spot on the team and it was a very heatwarming story and everyone was so happy for him and that he deserved the roster spot and was ready to contribute as the clubs 4th OF and he ended up being sent down within like less than 2 months. So, all of these number mean little to me.
Show me that you can consistently hit major league pitching and I will believe in your. Otherwise, I’d rather not hear it. Your blindly setting yourself up for failure. Which is whey the Braves better than a proven mlb hitter to play LF or 3B or they will not have any chance of overcoming the Nationals.
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
11:35 am
Gilmartin, by himself, is probably worth the year of Choo. Thats equal to the draft pick that they would be receiving + the salary relief.
They haven’t exactly shown that “salary relief” is of much concern to them, if their Victorino offer is true. Not sure one should factor that in as a plus. They might, instead, overvalue the performance they’d lose from the position were he to be traded.
In any event, it would seem unlikely that they would come off their ask this early in the offseason.
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 5th, 2012
11:38 am
Brava
December 5th, 2012
11:27 am
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Rival official on Red Sox: “Boston is listening on… Ellsbury and Lester, but not motivated to move them unless teams overpay.”
Seems to be the theme of the winter meetings for any team wanting players on another team.
old man
Yep, even if you don’t love BJ, you gotta really pull hard for him next year, just to see George_George eat his words.
C’mon who doesn’t love a good BJ?
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
11:38 am
I’d only trade him if absolutely necessary,
And that qualification comes with the latest rumor of the day. You’ve been dishing those two out all season. One of them is the 5th starter this year. This team is going to need the other as the year goes along as well. That is, both of them are pitching in the majors this year. Neither of them is moving unless it is a big deal, and Choo is not a big deal.
The Braves pitching depth isn’t as deep as you make it out to be. (It was prior to the non-tender deadline. At that point, technically, the Braves had a lot of major league starters). There are some good young pitchers down there, but only two are ready for the show, and one of those is guaranteed a regular spot with the other coming up throughout the season.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:38 am
George_George – Well, considering that he put up that number of XBH (60, 54, 60 the past three years) while doing as terribly as you claim that he did, I’d say there’s a damned good chance my dreams of 60 or more XBH will come to fruition.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
11:38 am
ken – It has certainly helped the Hurricane franchise that they have gone DEEP into the playoffs several times in the last 10 years, including cup finals in 2002, and winning the cup in 2006. The allstar weekend in 2010 was awsome. All of this adds to the excitement. No one is interested in perrinial losers (except Cub fans, of course).
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
11:38 am
And with his velocity and command…..I’d be very reluctant to trade Graham for a one year rental.
Hey, I said I’d have to sleep on it, didn’t I, LOL?
Patrick
December 5th, 2012
11:40 am
“Like David Ross I believe that most Braves fans think that Reed johnson is going to automatically resign with the Braves.”
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If he is like most he will go whereever the top $ sign appears.
That couldn’t be more true! Kudos to you for speaking the truth.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
11:41 am
Damn, how did we win 94 games with no flame throwers? I guess you have to factor in the best BP in the NL.
P'cola Brave
December 5th, 2012
11:42 am
Giants feel that with the signing of Pagan and Scutaro that they can’t afford Scott Hairston. Looking for RH bat to compliment Gregor Blanco. If they are looking for this type bat and believe Hairston to be to expensive they may jump in the Reed Johnson sweepstakes. Personally if we are looking at Bonafacio then complimenting that with Hairston seems like a better option than Reed Johnson. Two lefty mashers that could draw some serious interest in the next week or two.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
11:42 am
Gilmartin, by himself, is probably worth the year of Choo.
Nope. They’d want more. Gilmartin plus an additional minor leaguer. They are asking for an additional 2 prospects, if we are to assume Gilmartin is “major league ready.” I’d hagle over the additional prospects. Get it down to one, or require something from them to balance it out. Maybe money or a bullpen arm or bench player.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:43 am
Hell no I don’t agree re: Ellsbury. Dude has missed two of the past three seasons with two different broken ribs and a shoulder issue similar to McCann’s. Yeah, he put up a good year in between, but way TOO good considering what he has done every other year. Even the Red Sox stalwarts up here won’t bet you he wasnt on PED’s in 2011.
I’m not saying he did, but I sure as hell wouldn’t pay prospects for him for one year (with Boras as his agent) and who made over $8 mil last year and is arb eligible this winter. Way too risky. If he weren’t, he’d be playing CF for the Red Sox.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
11:43 am
Gilmartin, by himself, is probably worth the year of Choo.
And by arm or bench, I’m talking low on the pole quality back. better than Livan or Wilson, but not by much. Some one with an option left.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
11:44 am
C’mon who doesn’t love a good BJ?
Okay, guys, I hope this isn’t going to be a recurring meme all season. It’s a bit tasteless.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:46 am
Yeah, our rotation is not good enough to keep up with the Nats (yet with essentially the same rotation last year, had we beaten the Nats in two games we would have tied them for the Division lead), but you want to deplete it even further. Yeah, lots of logic and common sense in that stance.
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
11:46 am
LEW:
You still dogging ELLSBURY?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
11:46 am
Damn, how did we win 94 games with no flame throwers?
By having Minor and Medlen pitch like maniacs for 24-5 games combined. There will be some “regression” from that madness they dished out. And we traded Viz (95+mph) for a guy who barely touches 89 (Maholm)
Murph
December 5th, 2012
11:47 am
Okay, guys, I hope this isn’t going to be a recurring meme all season. It’s a bit tasteless.
Only one on here who will confess to knowing the taste is Tomahawkin… he’s been tasting Uptons for the last week.
Bah dum bum… tish.
unbelievable
December 5th, 2012
11:47 am
Gilmartin, by himself, is probably worth the year of Choo…
Nope. They’d want more.
Wanting and receiving are different things though. Choo has one year left on his contract. Denard Span had three. Minnesota didnt get multiple players in return.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
11:47 am
Bob Nightengale @BNightengale
The #Dbacks, #rangers, #indians and #rays have reopened talks of possible 4 team trade involving likes of Shields,Upton,Cabrera
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
11:48 am
Who wouldn’t heavily consider the highest $$$ offered, when considering a job change? Other factors matter, but that’s definitly high on the list. I don’t criticize a guy for trying to make the $$$ during a short career.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
11:48 am
Pastornicky, Gilmartin and Juan Jaime – I’d seriously consider that if I were Cleveland. Just as a snapshot, here is their 2012 Top 10 prospects per BA:
1. Francisco Lindor, ss
2. Dorssys Paulino, ss
3. Tyler Naquin, of
4. Cody Allen, rhp
5. Mitch Brown, rhp
6. Danny Salazar, rhp
7. Luigi Rodriguez, of
8. Ronny Rodriguez, ss/2b
9. Jesus Aguilar, 1b
10. Chen Lee, rhp
Just awful. Maybe the worst in baseball. Chicago White Sox, LA Angels and Detroit Tigers are down in that range as well. Lindor is a potential star level SS and Paulino is a future regular at either SS or 2B, but the list falls off of a cliff after that.
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
11:48 am
O.K. FRANK, today’s the day. Let’s get that ‘premium’ player for LF or 3B. Tomorrow is walk day. This is it. Now or never.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
11:49 am
You’ll know how well Upton is doing on that first trip to NY. If the crowd starts chanting “Meeeeelvin… Meeeeeeeelvin” then you know he’s hitting the ball well. If they do nothing, we’re in trouble.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
11:49 am
Murph… smh
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:49 am
richbrave – Only because some here refuse to realize what a bad move trading for him would be. And for good reason.
Ray
December 5th, 2012
11:50 am
@George, If the Braves overpaid for Upton what other free agents would you have had the Braves sign? We see what the others are signing for and that is only going to help Bourn even more so. He will be around 100m. In trades Ellsbury will take a lot to get and Boras will not have him sign an extension with anyone. What solution do you have?
Ray
December 5th, 2012
11:52 am
Really, today is the now or never. I didn’t realize that if teams didn’t sign or make trades today then they can’t cut a deal. I guess 20 other teams along with the Braves better get busy.
C-Chat
December 5th, 2012
11:53 am
The way I see it, the Red Sox do not have a whole lotta leverage when it comes to Ellsbury. With only one year left on his contract, I doubt any team will agree to “overpay” for him unless there is a pre-arranged contract extension involved. Knowing that- could the Braves perhaps offer a Maholm-for-Ellsbury trade? Trading a one-year OFer for a one-year SP. Both parties get what they want, and the money is relatively close (about $2 million savings for Boston). Although that might leave Braves’ rotation a little too shaky after the first two slots in rotation…but…Beachy comes back around All-Star break. Probably to whacky of an idea, I know. Smeh.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
11:53 am
Nick Cafardo Nick Cafardo @nickcafardo
Agent and former slugger Gary Sheffield feels he’s getting close on a deal with Jason Grilli. But wouldn’t reveal the team.
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
11:53 am
I don’t take the PAGNOZZI signing as a good omen for B-MAC.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
11:53 am
Denard Span had three. Minnesota didnt get multiple players in return.
Minnesota got a higher rated prospect/better player.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
11:54 am
TOBF – I’m just saying that wins are what matter, and obsessions can be a bad thing.
BTW, there are DAMN few pitchers that fit your definition of an ace…DAMN few…and Greinke ain’t one of them, either.
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
11:56 am
Minnesota didnt get multiple players in return.
No, but they did get a high-quality prospect. Gilmartin, for example, is a step down from Alex Meyer. Balancing the differing years of control for the ML players against the differing quality of available prosepcts…it’s not all that easy to figure equivalencies.
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 5th, 2012
11:56 am
Ef and any othe hockey fan:
Word on the street is that the press conference Bettman is holding at 1 is to announce a deal is in place and that there will be hockey this year. Hopefully it is true since why else would they have a press conference? I would hope it’s not to keep f’n with fans.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
11:56 am
Alex Meyer was a borderline Top 50 prospect for some. Questions about him being a reliever or starter. Large range of what he can end up, I think. Gilmartin + is very reasonable for one year of Shin Soo Choo.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
11:56 am
And we traded Viz (95+mph) for a guy who barely touches 89 (Maholm)
Viz is in the minors with health concerns and a reliever potential.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
11:56 am
Me either, rich. I think some folks here are in denial when it comes to BMac.
chipl1960
December 5th, 2012
11:57 am
Ray-he won’t respond to logic. I asked the same question. No answer. I also posted BJ’s las 8 seasons average production. No response. Beating a dead horse my friend.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:59 am
I’m far from certain Mac comes back to the Braves next year, but I fail to see what signing a career minor league, non hitting catcher has to do with him being gone. Even DOB described Pagnozi as our new JC Boscan. Doubtful he sees much time in the bigs – EVER.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
11:59 am
Murph… smh
I don’t understand your internet lingo.
Shat muy hard?
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
12:00 pm
I don’t take the PAGNOZZI signing as a good omen for B-MAC.
Would you have felt the same if Boscan had re-upped, instead? Basically the same player, organizational filler.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
12:00 pm
shaking my head
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
12:00 pm
TPaul: I know he has health concerns, which is why the trade is okay. But he was not far removed from being a guy who had #2 starter potential. And we got a soft-tosser in return for him. Deal is good, but we lost 10mph in fastball speed.
RBF: I know obsession is a bad thing, which is why the Braves need to quit this obession with soft-tossers!
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
12:01 pm
For a team that has gone 366-282 over the last four seasons and have picked in the back of the draft consistently for three years, the Texas Rangers have done very well restocking the farm system with high end talent. Pre-CBA rules International signings have certainly helped too – Profar, Sardinhas, Alfaro, Odor.
Ray
December 5th, 2012
12:02 pm
@chip, yeah I figured I would not get any response. It’s easy just to paste and copy the same complaint over and over. I sometimes will challenge those that have rants. Let’s play GM and I will be the other GM and they can be the Braves GM for a moment. They forget that it takes 2 in negotiations.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
12:02 pm
Evn if Mac leaves next year, Laird will still remain the back up catcher and they’ll find a new starter somewhere else that osts less money unless they feel Bethancourt is ready – which is far from definite.
George_George
December 5th, 2012
12:03 pm
C-Chat
December 5th, 2012
11:53 am
I don’t know if it could happen. But I would do that trade right now either BJ or ELLSBURY could play LF.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
12:03 pm
And I do see Greinke as a strong #2 on a great staff… he’d be our #1. Still can reach that potential.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
12:04 pm
Braves taking Matt Lipka(#35) over Mike Olt(#49) in 2010 sorta stings right now, don’t it?
Shoulda gone UCONN.
ccrider
December 5th, 2012
12:09 pm
TOBF and others: regarding Teheran and Delgado.have you given a thought that they were both at AAA to work on their weaker pitches and not to put up glowing stats to make YOU feel better about their futures playing for the Braves.
You might want to quit making uninformed “Computer GM’S” assessments of who has worth and who doesn’t AND who should be traded other players.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
12:11 pm
Braves taking Matt Lipka(#35) over Mike Olt(#49) in 2010 sorta stings right now, don’t it?
They seem to have this need to gather as many players of 1 type as possible, as quickly as possible. They’ve had their SS phase, their SP phase, now they are at the winter meetings collecting minor league backup catchers…
One can only hope that the team decides to start collecting high-ceiling outfielders next. Never gonna happen, but one can hope.
Tubby Goldsmith
December 5th, 2012
12:11 pm
Has there honestly been any talk of letting O’Flaherty go because of a 4 million dollar contract?
Kimbrel is a freak in his own league, O’Flaherty has simply been the BEST reliever in baseball the last two years – if they Braves let him go they are bigger fools than we sometimes think.
They should be tying him up with a long term deal. How frigging blind can you be?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
12:17 pm
Pagnozzi signing means almost nothing regarding Mac. However, like John Kincade said, the Upton signing does. Doubtful the Braves will have 2 guys on offense committed for next 5years at 15mil+. And we’ve already got Uggla whose petty close to 15mil. Heyward gonna get paid nxt winter, Freeman the year after. Not enough money to go around on the offense’s side. Especially since it’s doubtful that we’ll see all of the extra 25mil next year, may not even get 10.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
12:17 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
#rangers said working hard now on justin upton.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
12:19 pm
Deal is good, but we lost 10mph in fastball speed.
What in the hell are you talking about? 1) Viz wasn’t a starting pitcher, 2) nor on the major league roster and 3) no team deals in the FB speed metric. That sentence makes absolutely no sense.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
12:19 pm
O’Flaherty has simply been the BEST reliever in baseball the last two years
Comfortably outside of the Top 20.
Tumbledown
December 5th, 2012
12:19 pm
The other day, I proposed Gilmartin and Cunningham for Choo. But, like all my other posts, I was greeted with a chorus of crickets.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
12:20 pm
Looks like the Rangers will be cutting ties with Hamilton, no?
Ray
December 5th, 2012
12:22 pm
IF the Braves were able to sign Kevin Youk at an affordable amount, good or bad move?
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
12:23 pm
I was greeted with a chorus of crickets.
Perhaps because some one else at the time made an asinine trade proposal which sent the bulk of the blog into picking at that carcass.
richbrave
December 5th, 2012
12:24 pm
C-Chat:
BRAVES have already made major pitching moves exiting JURRJENS and HANSON. We certainly don’t want two ?-marks in the rotation starting out 2013. GREINKE coming in remains a possibility I suppose unless he’s already somewhere else, but MAHOLM is ours until the trade dead-line at least. At that point, BEACHY will be starting his comeback, and a deal might be had for a need mid-season if BB looks strong.
We’ve added power-arms in the pen in LH JAIME, RH WALDEN, and an unknown to me, RH CARPENTER. If any of them can locate, we’ll see some changes there going forward. DURBIN remaiuns unsigned and the BRAVES appear to be working around him going forward. Probably a money issue.
RH VARVARO, RH C-MART, and LH VENTERS are exposed in my opinion with GEARRIN pushing for a RH slot. ST determines their future as BRAVES.
O’FLAHERTY, AVILAN. KIMBREL are in.
I would like DURBIN to be the first RH option in the sixth, seventh but that might become CARPENTER instead, or a survivor between VARVARO and MARTINEZ.
chipl1960
December 5th, 2012
12:25 pm
Youk would be good but how much is left in the tank? 2 years at 10 mil.? He is probably looking for a 3 year deal but would take a bit less to play for a team in contention that doesn’t have a mgr. talking sh&t behind his back and to the media.
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
12:25 pm
Not enough money to go around on the offense’s side [to pay McCann]
Once again, folks who say this are simply mathematically challenged.
kenhotlanta
December 5th, 2012
12:27 pm
RIP: Dave Brubeck. Great jazz pianist.
unbelievable
December 5th, 2012
12:27 pm
IF the Braves were able to sign Kevin Youk at an affordable amount, good or bad move?
Bad, he’s done
Brava
December 5th, 2012
12:28 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
One of the teams involved in the four-team Ariz-Cle deal is the Kansas City Royals. Not sure about the form yet.
Tumbledown
December 5th, 2012
12:28 pm
TennesseePaul – Perhaps because some one else at the time made an asinine trade proposal which sent the bulk of the blog into picking at that carcass.
Ok. But I say some asinine things, too, and nobody picks at those carcasses. So lonely. Just kidding.
George_George
December 5th, 2012
12:28 pm
S/O Brava
I am curious george. What are your thoughts on BRAVES getting ELLSBURY now for either LF or CF?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
12:31 pm
Isnt Ahmed from UCONN?
Teheran is working on secondary pitches… so lost 5mph on his FB and throws it straight, and still can’t repetitively spin a curve
Why would EOF sign with us? Did you see the deals Affeldt, League, Marshall get? Braves wont be paying him 5mil, but he can get that on the open market. We could trade him like the Cubs did with Marshall and get a good return, but…. He’s outside the top25 in relievers for me anyway. Walden was rated better than him this summer.
Patrick
December 5th, 2012
12:31 pm
11:11am: The Rangers are “working hard” trying to acquire Upton, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (Twitter link).
If the Rangers pull off a trade for Upton and end up not having to give up Andrus or Profar. Wren should be FIRED