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TheOnlyBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
7:23 pm
Jeff Passan @JeffPassan
Only 10 teams in baseball have not given out $100M+ contracts: ATL, Arizona, Baltimore, Cleveland, ChiSox, KC, PIT, Seattle, Oakland and SD.
Well I hope this stays true…. BJ’s getting 6/102, my guess.
tony austin
November 26th, 2012
7:25 pm
I think Robert would prefer it more to see Bobby back in the dugout than I would like to see Upton with a tomahawk.
Nowhere man
November 26th, 2012
7:26 pm
watch out you will be trampled by the herd.
George_George
November 26th, 2012
7:32 pm
Seems JUSTON has better numbers than BJ, but I would say NO to both of them. Why not SWISHER or WILLINGHAM in LF and platoon of JOHNSON and BIFF or JORDAN in CF?
Trader Jack
November 26th, 2012
7:33 pm
I see /dob brought up the interview regarding the Braves TV deal. You want a possible future vision of the Braves? The Royals have a Regional TV deal similar to what the Braves have, about $20 mil per year.
The good news for the Royals is that they have 7 years left, and maybe able to structure a new deal in a few years. The bad news for the Braves is they have 19 years left!
There is a solution, but I don’t think you want to hear it
Brava
November 26th, 2012
7:34 pm
So glad many of you are not the GM. Trading Kris Medlen for a prospect (albeit, a very good one) would be very foolish. He may, or may not, be the next Greg Maddux, but he’s proven already that he’s far from an average pitcher. Funny, though, how most of the advocates are the same folks who wanted to keep him in the bullpen. Go figure.
George_George
November 26th, 2012
7:38 pm
JUSTON seems to have better numbers than BJ, but I would say no the either one of them. Why not SWISHER or WILLINGHAM in LF and a platoon of JOHNSON and BIF or JORDAN in CF?
George_George
November 26th, 2012
7:41 pm
Brava
November 26th, 2012
7:34 pm
So glad many of you are not the GM. Trading Kris Medlen for a prospect (albeit, a very good one) would be very foolish. He may, or may not, be the next Greg Maddux, but he’s proven already that he’s far from an average pitcher. Funny, though, how most of the advocates are the same folks who wanted to keep him in the bullpen. Go figure
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You are so RIGHT.
No Flag Since Lemke
November 26th, 2012
7:42 pm
All I want for Christmas is to see B J Upton in a Phillies uniform – or any other team besides the Braves.
VaBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
7:42 pm
Even tho I know there is no chance of it happening, but Justin Upton is #1 on my list. He would be a long term addition for LF, RH power bat who is a 5 tool player. Kid does everything and likely to keep getting better. We could plug him right into the cleanup spot. Also it would give us arguably the best Corner Outfield Duo in baseball. Heyward and Upton in the 3/4 spots in order for atleast the next 3 years for sure, both 5 tool guys.
beachcomber
November 26th, 2012
7:45 pm
M1ke McDermon11 – Those Medlin/Non-Medlin numbers are incredible. Don’t recall seeing who was selected as Braves MVP for 2012 but if it wasn’t Medlin, there ought to be an investigation.
Brava
November 26th, 2012
7:49 pm
Hi, George.
Long time no see. I’ve just been popping in and out to read while nothing’s really happening on the off-season front, but the Medlen for Myers trade proposal drew me out of hiding. I realize Myers is likely to be a great player, but an above average pitcher (who could be an ace) is more valuable than an above-average position player (who has yet to touch the majors) in my book.:)
Wow
November 26th, 2012
7:51 pm
“Why not SWISHER or WILLINGHAM in LF and platoon of JOHNSON and BIFF or JORDAN in CF?”
Because it’s a stupid idea
George_George
November 26th, 2012
7:53 pm
M1ke McDermon11
November 26th, 2012
7:42 pm
..Brava, it wasnt just many on here who wanted to keep Medlen in the bullpen. It was Braves management as well..along with DOB, who toed the management line at the beginning of the year that Medlen was “too valuable” as a long relief guy.
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Not only the above, but they sent him to G-BRAVES for three weeks. How many wins did that cost us?
Brava
November 26th, 2012
7:53 pm
M1ke McDermon11, I agree. Medlen would have never gotten a chance to start if the stars hadn’t aligned like they did this past season. That said, maybe Wren would trade him as some of the posters here would, who knows?
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
7:53 pm
3 years of control on Medlen (who has all of 30 career starts) or 6 years of a guy who’s “blocked” in KC and is likely the RH, more powerful version of JHey? I’d consider that, and maybe even pull the trigger. Sets us up really good in 2014-8. A core of Hey, Freeman, Myers, Simmons, Prado sounds really really good.
Brava
November 26th, 2012
7:55 pm
We know Medlen can pitch, and pitch very well, at the MLB level. We don’t know jack about how Myers will perform at the same level. I would NEVER make that trade. You don’t trade away one of the biggest strengths of your team for a gamble.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
7:56 pm
Even tho I know there is no chance of it happening, but Justin Upton is #1 on my list.
Maybe next winter lol. Even if it’d only be for 2 years, he’d still be really good for us, and maybe just maybe we could re-sign him. Get a draft pick at the end.
Brava
November 26th, 2012
7:58 pm
… And I’m curious. Knowing Beachy will be out for at least half the season, with whom who do you propose to replace Medlen?
Brava
November 26th, 2012
8:01 pm
LOL! Good one, M1ke McDermon11.
Ralph
November 26th, 2012
8:03 pm
M1ke McDermon11
Your soooo right about Medlen, I said it many times and I still believe that if they had started the season with him in the rotation they would have won the Division.
Nowhere man
November 26th, 2012
8:04 pm
A Brava sighting. Good to see ya.
74bravesjersey
November 26th, 2012
8:06 pm
@Jimiz; I hear ya; It’s alot of money, & I do favor Justin over BJ, BJ looks like a little guy I guess w/ a Big swing, But I figured he may have some spark, some life. Bourn, I don’t know, get span, I’ve been intrigued w/ him. I really can’t make of this off season, & why we have the worst tv deal compared to everyone else is beyond me. ATL as a whole(all sports) can’t or don’t have much to deal w/ in getting solid impact players. I feel they(Braves brass)need to look how the Giants have done it the past 3 yrs. 2 world championships in 3 yrs. Bochy is a crafty baseball mgr. that is fair, & doesn’t take any crap off anybody against his team. The guys go to war for him. Where can ATL find someone like that? Hard to say. HoHum… Ya’ll have a good one, selah.
74bravesjersey
November 26th, 2012
8:08 pm
@ Brava; I’m not been one of the long time blog aquaintences as others here are but just want to share in the frey here & say a good Hello to ya as well.
George_George
November 26th, 2012
8:10 pm
Yup Brava, good to see you here again.
Brava
November 26th, 2012
8:11 pm
Hi, Nowhere man and 74bravesjersey. Thanks for the kind greetings!
Brava
November 26th, 2012
8:12 pm
Good to see you, too, George.
Jimiz
November 26th, 2012
8:14 pm
I hope the Braves can get things done w/out signing any Upton. I wish they could get Denard Span for center. But Shane Victorino would be a good fit also. And probably could be gotten for less then 10 mil a year. I would rather them sign Jeff Keppinger for a platoon at third and leave Prado in left. Frank Wren has alot of variety when it comes to making deals this year. I think we got a chance to fill the spots and not break the bank this year. Or Wren will overpay and we will end up stuck with another D. Lowe situation. We need to be smart because we have some guys that we have to sign in the next couple years and we need the funds to do it.
George_George
November 26th, 2012
8:16 pm
Well outta here, Peanut wants to walk. Have a good one all. Hope PHILLY grabs BJ. Nite all.
Nowhere man
November 26th, 2012
8:16 pm
It would be nice to make a big splash and build some excitement.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
8:17 pm
Brava agreeing w/ Lentz…
Who would I replace Medlen with? I don’t know, we’d have the flexibility to go after a Greinke, though it probably wouldn’t be wise. He’s gonna get 22+mil, which is insane. We’d still have Minor, Hudson, Maholm all guys who will post ERAs around 3.60. Hanson and Delgado can still improve, and do well enough. Beachy will be our ace hopefully in 2014, we’ll hopefully add another top pitcher (David Price lol), and Graham and be ready to go. Not having Medlen doesn’t mean that we’re finished. And we gain 3 years of cheap control on a player who will be a beast. If it’s Medlen for Myers sraight up, you’ve at least got to consider it.
Sure it’s more of a move for 2014-8, allowing us to be great contenders during that stretch, but we’ll still be able to contend next year without Medlen.
Ray
November 26th, 2012
8:19 pm
I have a feeling in regards to Upton the ball is in his hands. Braves and Phils have their offers to him and its up to him and his agent on which one he will go with.
Couch Tater
November 26th, 2012
8:26 pm
Stub Hub Championship Tickets..
Cheapest Tickets: SEC $350, PAC 12 $74, BIG 10 $17, ACC $4
Jimiz
November 26th, 2012
8:26 pm
Lol.. Trade Meds? No freaken way. Medlen, Beachy and Minor are our future. I think these guys could end up being our next Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz. I would say these guys are untouchable.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
8:29 pm
Probably all a moot point anyway though… Frank won’t trade his pitching (even if it’s been 2+ years and waiting on the prospects), and certainly not one from the big-league level. But if it were me, I’d seriously consider it.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
8:31 pm
The ACC is so sad…
Next Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz? I’d say that it’s premature to say that…
Brava
November 26th, 2012
8:33 pm
TOBF, I can agree with anyone who makes sense or is stating the truth, regardless of their past, shall we say, indiscretions. Lol!
Well, once again, we’ll have to agree to disagree. There’s no way I trade Meds when he was clearly the best starting pitcher we had for the second half of the season. And, Hanson? Really? I can’t believe you’re dangling him out there as a member of the 2013 rotation as much as you complained about him this past season!
I agree with Jimiz. Medlen, Beachy and Minor could prove to be a very special group of pitchers, much like the big three. We shouldn’t give up any of them until they are given the opportunity to show us what they’ve got. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
Nowhere man
November 26th, 2012
8:41 pm
Shouldn’t the ACC be paying people to watch their Championship game??
Pippa's Meaty Backside
November 26th, 2012
8:41 pm
“Just to think…if Medlen had been starting those wasted 18 starts (17 by Delgado, 1 by Teheran)…perhaps the Braves would have went 14-4 in those games…as opposed to 4-14.”
Yeah, as I look in the rear view mirrow I agree with you. Why couldn’t the have looked in the rear view mirror sooner?
Nowhere man
November 26th, 2012
8:42 pm
Haven’t see Nolie around. Anyone heard from him.
Jimiz
November 26th, 2012
8:43 pm
Thanks for the back-up Brava:) I was hoping others felt the way about them as i do. I do think that they have to prove themselves. But i like what i see enough not to trade them.
Brava
November 26th, 2012
8:45 pm
Me too, Jimiz.
Pippa's Meaty Backside
November 26th, 2012
8:47 pm
“Next Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz? I’d say that it’s premature to say that”
You won’t ever see a repeat of a pitching staff loaded like the Braves had for more than a decade. Only a few teams could afford it, but not likely to ever happen again. The current squad isn’t even close.
Pippa's Meaty Backside
November 26th, 2012
8:49 pm
“Shouldn’t the ACC be paying people to watch their Championship game??”
It is what it is….how many SECs can you have? What’s your point?
Pippa's Meaty Backside
November 26th, 2012
8:52 pm
“I have a feeling in regards to Upton the ball is in his hands.”
Exactly whose hands would it be in besides the player’s? Offers are on the table. Player chooses. Next!
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
8:53 pm
I can understand that Brava… and I am shocked that I’m even mentioning Hanson as a potential rotation member, but if that’s what it takes to get Myers here, I’ll take it. Only 1 more year!
Nowhere man
November 26th, 2012
8:53 pm
Maybe the ACC could package the football tickets with tickets to a basketball game.
Jimiz
November 26th, 2012
9:03 pm
vabravesfan.
I agree if we were to get an Upton Justin would be the guy. Arizona is looking for some big time prospects or established major league players in return for Justin. If the Braves can get him without giving up to much i could go along with that. But then they would have to get a lead-off centerfielder through free agent signing. I like Shane Victorino he could do the job and do it cheaper then Bourn or B.J.
glord1
November 26th, 2012
9:05 pm
Im not an Upton fan. Just not. I follow two teams pretty closely. The Braves and the Rays. I have family in Tampa and go to games and spend multiple days at Spring Training. If you follow a team closely you dont have to be in the club house to see some things about how players carry themselves, how their teammates respond to them and what the fans think. My opinion of Upton is that he is a selfish player(with man on second with one out I have never seen him hit behind the runner) that dogs it on many plays and is one of the least fan friendly players in MLB baseball. He is my least favorite Rays player.
All that said he does have talent and a specific skill set as a baseball player. If he could hit .260 with an OBP in the .340 range he would be pretty valuable. I would like Upton at 4 years for 50 mil but that is not even close to getting him signed. I cringe to see how he will act after signing a long term deal.
I also just dont see him improving much more at 28 since he has shown less and less interest in cutting down his swing and using his speed as each year goes by.
Ray
November 26th, 2012
9:12 pm
@pippa’s. yes it is an obvious statement. So many on here are clamoring for Wren to hurry up and do something. The Upton signing is up to the player now, not Wren.
tony austin
November 26th, 2012
9:21 pm
After all the comments I’ve read on this blog and other places regarding Upton, I just don’t understand why any GM would give him anything of significance. He’s just not worth it. Please Mr Wren, move on from him
old man
November 26th, 2012
9:33 pm
George_George:
Wow, those must the ninth and tenth instances of bad attitude by BJ Upton over his 6 year career. His manager and team-mates must be covering for him when they say he was well-liked and appreciated.
I’m looking at reports one through eight right now from some previous posts. Wait a second! These sound like he did the same two things over and over again. On the same days! In the same games! Holy crap! How did he do that? Honestly, how could he have the same argument 5 times, in the same dugout, with the same team-mate, at exactly the same time, simultaneously? There must have been some kind of time warp, or maybe these are parallel universes, where 5 different BJ Uptons are having the same argument with the same team-mate, except it’s really 5 different versions of the same team-mate, in five different dugouts. But simultaneously.
I mean come on, no one would ever just cut and paste the same two reports and re-post them over and over again, would they? Nah, must be that parallel universe thing.
So if we sign him, do we get just one BJ Upton, or all five of them?
David O'Brien
November 26th, 2012
9:34 pm
DOB has been quiet on Josh Willingham lately; he must have given up home on him.
Gotta stir up fan interest with BJ Upton.
DOB, can’t you get us excited about somebody good ? – cornjolio
So does this mean you’re getting excited by what I’ve written about Upton? What have I written about the guy that would get you overly excited? That I think Bourn is a better fit and that Upton got nearly half of his home runs last season during a seven-game stretch in August and a 25-game stretch in September?
I mean, yes I think the guy will bring a dynamic presence to the lineup; a 30/30 type player will tend to do that. But I like plenty of others out there as much or more, and feel like Pagan or Bourn is a better fit for the Braves in center and leading off (with Upton, they’re going to either have to get another leadoff guy or turn to Simmons).
But Bourn, as we’ve said, is going to take a while to sign and will get more money and years than the Braves want to give him. And most folks still believe Pagan will return to S.F. (but the Braves are interested).
As for Willingham, I think he’s a perfect fit in left field for the Braves, and would permit them to spend more money on CF and bench needs. But from all accounts, the Twins aren’t looking to trade him. At least not yet. Haven’t even given any indication they’ll listen to offers, so far. They do, however, have Span and might part with him eventually. Another guy I think is a good fit for the Braves if they can get some power and run production from the other newcomer they get at left field (or third base).
Jimiz
November 26th, 2012
9:40 pm
@Pippa’s
Your right we won’t see another Mad dog , Glavine and Smoltz but i have a feeling about these guys. It is premature to say either way. I’m just going by what i’ve seen and to me they have the talent to be our future. I was just saying they could be our next big three. I didn’t feel this way about J.J or Hanson or any of the guys we have had since then. Hudson has been the only one we could count on in that span. I am excited to see all three togeather.
brian
November 26th, 2012
9:41 pm
Wonder if murph can talk maddux inton coming to Dark Star and helping the braves out in spring training. Love to see maddux work with Medlen (and glavine with minor)
old man
November 26th, 2012
9:44 pm
Medlen plus other parts for Myers?
We would be idiots not to do that. Myers is a potential Trout. A notch lower defensively, but is on track to be that kind of offensive player.
I love Medlen to death, but come on.
Jimiz
November 26th, 2012
9:50 pm
D.O.B
Do you have any opinion on Jeff keppinger? Wouldn’t it be wise to platoon at third keep Prado in LF. Then trade for Span or pick up Victorino for center and lead-off. I just don’t feel like Simmons would be ready for that spot he needs more time. We would have a nice chunk of money left over.
Mark
November 26th, 2012
9:51 pm
Can’t believe we are waiting on a decision from Upton! We must want to set strikeout records. Put Upton with Uggs and pitchers are gonna be excited to come to Hotlanta. Unbelievable!
Had it not been for Dumpster we woulda been stuck with him. Maybe Upton will turn us down to and help us out!!!
old man
November 26th, 2012
9:51 pm
DOB, those were nutty comments earlier. You held your temper pretty well. If you start using a bunch of curse words, do you have to ban yourself? I bet you were tempted to use some of those words.
The BJ Upton question gets more complex and less clear the more you look at it. Anyone who says that signing him is an obvious blunder is wrong. At the end of the day, if FW concludes that signing Upton at a certain dollar amount is even just marginally better than not signing him, then he is going to make that offer to him. And if he accepts, then he’s a Brave.
If that happens, you will hear all kinds of wailing gnashing of teeth on this blog. Any sane person should just calmly decide to see now it turns out.
HC
November 26th, 2012
9:54 pm
BJ Upton does not play the game properly and has been disciplined for this by his manager. Does anyone remember the argument he had with Longoria in the dugout? You have to wonder whether he will disrupt team chemistry. I am surprised the Braves are so interested in a player with this kind of track record and lack of respect for the game. Furthermore, his strikeout totals are alarming even though he hits for power.
old man
November 26th, 2012
9:56 pm
If I was KC, I would take less in trade to move Gordon, because I would also be moving his average of 10M a year for three years. I would expect a lot, lot more for Myers, despite his lack of MLB credentials, because he is cheap with several years of team control.
Slowhiteguy
November 26th, 2012
9:58 pm
I trust FW and the Braves scouting department with player evaluations. Players with speed and power are very rare…and the Braves have nobody in their system currently that has Upton’s skill set and youth.
old man
November 26th, 2012
10:05 pm
HC:
That makes the 11th and 12th times those two incidents have been posted. Just so everyone knows, it’s just two things, not 12. And they are mentioned over and over again in clever ways that do not make it clear to the reader that they are actually the same two things over and over again.
Ray
November 26th, 2012
10:08 pm
For those that are ripping Upton for the blow up he had in the dugout a few years ago. We had A Jones pulled off the field in the middle of an inning. One incident does not make a player a problem.
Mark
November 26th, 2012
10:13 pm
I don’t care about what Upton does in the dugout. I’m much more concerned with what he does, or doesn’t do, in the batters box!
MIBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
10:15 pm
I love it that Greg Maddux is going to be a pitching coach, however briefly. I hope there are (and would think there would be) at least a couple of Braves on the USA WBC roster, and that they take full advantage of the chance to talk to him about pitching. And it’s great that Murphy is on that coaching staff, as well. At least Torre got something right this fall. (Not kidding, not in the least. I know it’s all over and done with, but that call was awful when it was made and it was awful no matter how many times you review it. I have the luxury of just being a fan so I feel free to say just what I think about it).
old man
November 26th, 2012
10:26 pm
BJ Upton is a tough call, but personally I say yes. I respect those who prefer someone like Span.
Interestingly, if Upton takes a deal with us for 75M, and rejects 80M from the Phillies, and turns down playing in their tiny stadium where he might hit 5+ extra HRs each year, maybe that will tell us something about his character, as a person and as a ballplayer.
If we sign BJ Upton, we need to just get another banger for LF–Myers, Cody Ross, Gordon, Justin Upton, etc. In other words, we need to get used to the idea of Simmons or Prado leading off. Personally, I think either would do just fine.
old man
November 26th, 2012
10:26 pm
Actually, Gordon can bat lead off.
My bad.
old man
November 26th, 2012
10:28 pm
Old Man have no cable.
Old Man have no ESPN.
Old Man have no Monday Night Football.
Old Man blog by himself.
Very sad for Old Man. Very sad.
Jimiz
November 26th, 2012
10:37 pm
@old man
I like Simmons and he might end up as lead-off. But my opinion is its to early to put him at lead-off. He hasn’t completed an entire year at the major league level. I want to see more from him i think he should get use to MLB pitching first. I like Prado in the second spot in the line-up. We need some speed at the top.
Slowhiteguy
November 26th, 2012
10:40 pm
And just think, maybe Upton will improve from age 28-30 like Bourn did. Braves paying for upside.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
10:41 pm
old man has a hard life!
Mark
November 26th, 2012
10:48 pm
Simmons isn’t a leadoff guy. Prado needs to be the 2 hitter.
Jimiz
November 26th, 2012
10:52 pm
@Ray
Huh…Andrew Jones is one of my all time favorite players. He kinda always went about things at his own pace. He could do that because he was the best centerfielder in the game. He is a laid back type of person who got along with everyone in the clubhouse. The only thing these two have in common are their ability to strike out to much.
Ray
November 26th, 2012
10:59 pm
JImiz.. I am not doubting andrew jones ability. My only point was by so many on here they have been labeling Upton as a trouble guy because of him getting in an argument with a teammate in the dugout. Jones had his one moment and he was pulled for being lazy on a play. B Cox did the right thing in pulling him and there was not another incident. Can’t mis-label a guy for one incident.
Jimiz
November 26th, 2012
11:03 pm
Huh….Andrew Jones is one of my all time favorite players. Andrew went about things at his own pace. He could do that because was the best centerfielder in the game. He has always been a laid back type of person. But he got along well with everyone in the dugout and his coach loved him like a son. The only thing these two have in common is they both strike out to much.
Jimiz
November 26th, 2012
11:04 pm
double post sorry
richbrave
November 26th, 2012
11:06 pm
SOUTH OF THE BORDER
DOMINICA
EASTERN BULLS
CF JOSE CONSTANZA [.284 BA] 0-4, 1 SO.
LHRP JOSE LUGO [0.00 ERA] 0.1 IP, 1 BB.
JOSE remains untouched in 15 appearances.
“Georgie’ has had a pretty good swoon at the plate the past handful of games. Whazzup’ with that?
LICEY TIGERS
3B JUAN FRANCISCO [.321 BA] 2-5, 1 SO.
LHS/RP YOHAN FLANDE [2.61 ERA] 3.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R/ER, 3 BB, 2 SO.
No games scheduled in other leagues.
Jimiz
November 26th, 2012
11:10 pm
Your right we don’t want to label anyone unless there is a history to back up the label. I think Hanley Ram. is a better example then Andrew is. The Dodgers knew about his problems but didn’t blink at the chance to add him to there line-up. I just think if he was that great then the Rays would be in the hunt to keep him. But their not they won’t even make him an offer. To me that says something about B.J.
Hillbilly
November 26th, 2012
11:17 pm
Old Man take a look at my life. I’m a lot like you.
ColoradoBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
11:17 pm
Sign Victorino 3 years @ $8M for CF and trade for one of Olt/Myers is what I would really like to see the Braves do. It’s possible but not probable.
The other option I would like to see is Hamilton for LF and Span in CF. Lots of lefties but Hamilton and Span both hit LHers well. Trade Maholm if Braves need salary relief or want to get more prospects….
BravePack(FreeFan)
November 26th, 2012
11:19 pm
I really hope Bossman Jr signs with the Braves. And when he’s hitting 30 hr’s and stealing 30 bases ill be laughing at all the whiny bytches who were crying before and after the signing. It is amazing to me how many armchair GM’s there are out there who think they know so much more than actual professionals who actually get paid to do their job. All you idiots who keep bringing up the same 2 incidents from the kid realize that was a few years ago when he was young right? I’m sure none of you did stupid things in your early 20’s. He learned from it and it hasn’t happened since. Go watch some interviews from the guy and he said right away it was his fault and regretted it. Instead of being excited about the fact the Braves could have at least 2 perennial 30/30 guys in CF and RF with $ to finally spend, most of you clowns just rehash the same old crap post after post bashing the guy. C’mon Bossman please pick the Braves so the fun can begin on here.
MIBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
11:19 pm
Hillbilly bringing some lyrics.
Hillbilly
November 26th, 2012
11:23 pm
Let it die just like the past.
I believe there’s hope at last.
Old man, did you ever have to pray?
Old man, can you show me the way?
BravePack(FreeFan)
November 26th, 2012
11:34 pm
Another thing to keep in mind is the fact that the Braves would have Heyward hitting in front of Upton and Freeman behind him most likely. Upton has never had that kind of protection in the Rays line up. Rays line up was never as strong as what Upton would have in the Braves line up. BJ is a gamer and I would love to see him in a Braves uniform. He practically carried the team in the postseason when the Rays went on their deep playoff run, something the Braves have truly been missing when they are in the postseason.
Wide Right
November 26th, 2012
11:36 pm
Reading rumors of a Jon Lester for Wil Myers trade. I know they are just rumors…but makes me wonder how Hanson compares to Lester. They both had similar success before 12, than similar failure. Would the royals be equally or more interested in Hanson?
kenhotlanta
November 26th, 2012
11:36 pm
Hillbilly: Ditto on Neil Young.
kenhotlanta
November 26th, 2012
11:39 pm
Although we southern men aren’t supposed to need Neil Young around, his sheer talent overcame.
ColoradoBravesFan
November 26th, 2012
11:51 pm
BJ Upton might be good or might get worse…but he is a terrible fit for the Braves.
He is not an excellent CFer.
He is not the RHed stud/baseball crusher needed between Heyward and Freeman
He is not a high OBP batter.
He is not a leadoff hitter
He IS/will be expensive @$15/$75M
He is a high SO batter. Braves have enough of these.
He has been an easy out the last 4 years.
If the Braves are going to spend $15M per year for the next 5 – 7 years it should be on someone who is a better fit for their club. Not sure any FA LFer fits for the Braves.
Sign Victorino for CF, play Gattis in LF….Uggla bats in the 4 hole until Gattis hits well enough to replace him or stinks bad enough that a trade is made mid season for a “premium” LFer.
Lester Murphy
November 27th, 2012
12:11 am
No to Upton.
TNScott
November 27th, 2012
12:30 am
I cannot believe we would be that stupid to sign BJ Upton. Dan Uggla lite. I don’t get the hype for either Upton. There are much better players available with better attitudes.
NV049
November 27th, 2012
1:21 am
DOB your 9:34pm 11/26 post … makes alot of financial sense .Adding if we spend the whole $25 mil on a new FA or 2 long term .
We will have no $$ left to extend Kimbrel,Heyward,Freeman or Prado .Willingham,Span ,Pagan are good options to fill the holes.. I might take a low $ chance on G Sizemore,also like to see R. Johnson resigned too.Is Coco Crisp availble?I like Bourn but he might be overpriced …We do need speed & defense rather than alot of power hitting.
Kwajbraves
November 27th, 2012
5:58 am
I hope BJ signs with Philadelphia. Give them another bloated contract so they can have a fire sale in July like the Marlins.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 27th, 2012
7:21 am
When the offseason began, Upton seemed to be most interested in landing with the Phillies. But his interest in the Braves seemed to soar after he met with Wren, manager Fredi Gonzalez, former skipper Bobby Cox and others at Turner Field two weeks ago.- Bowman
Not good…. not good at all
Billy Mumphries
November 27th, 2012
7:35 am
“So far our imaginations are all we have… and I never imagined that we’d be sitting here, the last week of November, with the team moves limited to Schafer and Laird.”
You guys do know that not every team in the league chases down a bunch of overpriced free agents, right?
CB
November 27th, 2012
7:35 am
Glad to read Hillbilly and old man bonded last night. LOL
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 27th, 2012
7:38 am
You guys do know that not every team in the league chases down a bunch of overpriced free agents, right?
The Braves are chasing Upton… he’s overpriced based on his performance.
David Puddy
November 27th, 2012
7:40 am
“I hope BJ signs with Philadelphia. Give them another bloated contract so they can have a fire sale in July like the Marlins.”
With comparable offers why wouldn’t you want to come here where there is no real pressure to perform, no expectation of accountability, and the press coverage is moderate and polite? And the TV/radio guys make .220 hitters sound like they’re Musial and Williams.
David Puddy
November 27th, 2012
7:53 am
..”DOB and Braves management were feeding them with the insistence that Medlen was more valuable in the bullpen.”
I resist the urge to second guess based on what little we know that goes on with real baseball operations behind the scenes. Perhaps they regret not getting him in the rotation earlier; perhaps not. No certainty that he would have extended that performance across a longer stretch. Who knows? But rear view mirror decision making is always better than real-time managing.
Live Vipir
November 27th, 2012
8:11 am
“At least Torre got something right this fall. (Not kidding, not in the least. I know it’s all over and done with, but that call was awful when it was made and it was awful no matter how many times you review it.”
It doesn’t matter. As the rule is written it met the most basic criteria..whether or not it should have been called in that scenario is a different argument. Torre could not have taken any other stance than the one provided. Besides, the Braves looked horribly inept at that point and the last thing we needed is to spend more money watching them being humilated in the playoffs.