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Trader Jack
December 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm
cab
What I meant by it works is the player can make his intentions known to management thru various means. Ricky Nolasco wants out, along with Stanton.
Let me ask you this. If you were Stanton, would you just go with the flow, or do everything you can to get out of there, including undermining management?
Disgusted
December 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
If I were Stanton I would continue to work hard to be the best player I can be but do what I can to get out.
He is stuck there for a couple more yrs — but not being the best player he can be will not help him so keep playing hard and good and his FA time will come.
No way I sign a deal there as long as Loria owns that team. If he can undermine the owner well, good luck but that never works.
brian
December 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
Stanton will not do any of the above and nor should he unless he wants to take on the rep of Yunel. Now could he let leak how upset he is, all the problems with the marlins and how there is no way he will ever sign a long term extension? Of course. Then do the classic non-denial denial
Jake W.
December 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
I don’t know how many changes the new playoff system will bring to college football but I hope they address this unnecessary gap between the last game and the championship game.
cabravesfan
December 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
Trader Jack-
I would NOT try to undermine anyone- it just makes that person look bad. I might ask for a trade, but at this point, I would prefer to see what happens. Plus, the team has zero incentive to trade him right now. Like I said, if I was management dealing with a player that was acting like that, I would tell him to play like he is capable of or not play at all. Only 2 options. pick one.
brian
December 3rd, 2012
9:45 pm
Amazing how times change – who would have thought 18 months ago that we would non-tender Jurrjens and trade away Hanson for a relief pitcher?
brian
December 3rd, 2012
9:46 pm
Who would have thought 18 months ago that Yunel could be on the trade block for a B level prospect and people here would not be screaming for the Braves to go get him?
cabravesfan
December 3rd, 2012
9:50 pm
brian-
Stanton has already stated he is not happy. But he is also not arb eligible until 2014. I would be surprised if the Fish tried to move him before then. Also, I firmly believe he is a class act and would never do any of those things. He will bide his time and move on to a better situation when he can.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 3rd, 2012
9:52 pm
Why was Yunel wanted/coveted while he was here? Glad they finally traded him, was a pretty poor player that season
Disgusted
December 3rd, 2012
9:53 pm
Brian — That is what injuries will do. Pitching is fragile.
JJ never did look great in those advanced stat projections, but I never thought he would fall this fast.
As for Hanson — he had two straight unproductive sencond halves — 2011 due to injury.
Trader Jack
December 3rd, 2012
9:54 pm
cab
Appearance has nothing to do with it. So he looks like a jerk, those who know could care less. His goal is to make the situation so intolerable, that the only alternative is to trade him
Disgusted
December 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm
Yunel was sort of liked and hated — I was not sad to see him go.
He had bad baseball instincts and was a fundamentally dumb ballplayer. And his baserunning was mickey mouse.
We are so much better off with Simmons — a real baseball player.
Jake W.
December 3rd, 2012
10:00 pm
Why was Yunel wanted/coveted while he was here? Glad they finally traded him, was a pretty poor player that season
You kind of answered your own question, prior to his trade that season he had been a valuable player in terms of production on the field and if he hadn’t put up the numbers he did in the first half he likely would have at least survived to the offseason. Guy is gone now and I am not ashamed to say that yes, I was one of the people who was not crazy about the trade at that time largely because I was not a big believer AGon the hitter. Guy played great defense but left a lot to be desired with the bat. I’m hoping now Simmons can be more of a long term solution at short.
Soph
December 3rd, 2012
10:02 pm
Hanley acted like a jerk yet the fish stuck it out with him.
Soph
December 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm
Posting on this blog is so damn annoying these days.
cabravesfan
December 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm
DAMN IT I forgot you can’t say “rep******”
Let’s try again-
Trader Jack-
Other options involve benching or suspension (conduct detrimental to the team comes to mind). And rep*tation matters- what if he were to end up in KC (they have a good farm) and hate it- would he throw another hissy fit to get out? But Stanton does not strike me as that kind of guy and the Fish are not going to trade him
cabravesfan
December 3rd, 2012
10:05 pm
Soph-
And Stanton is NOT Hanley. (Hi!)
brian_d
December 3rd, 2012
10:06 pm
Hello Nolie. I am glad you have been freed. You were missed. Thanks Dave too!
Zing
December 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm
Yunel had loads of talent but also loads of attitude. Guy was the epitome of “mercurial.” You don’t want Mercutio on a team playing 162 games, y’all. Glad he was traded, ended up opening the door for an Andrelton Simmons to fill that spot; if the Braves had kept him, our front office probably would have traded Simmons.
Soph
December 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm
Exactly, cab so he’s probably not going anywhere even if he were to act like a punk. He seems like a nice guy though so doubt he does any of what’s being discussed.
Hola, BTW!
Jake W.
December 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm
Posting on this blog is so damn annoying these days
I second that.
Nice to see the Hawks having success after those trades. Now if only we can convince Josh that just because Joe is gone now he is not Mr. big shot. Guy just has it in his head that’s he a shooter. Really is amazing that he can’t see what the rest of the basketball world can.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm
I wanted Esco traded after the 09 season… he was already a primadonna, needed to go. I think his defense is overrated, he has a good arm but his range didn’t seem all that special to me. Bat was okay, but his baserunning needed work. We all know how he seemed to implode in 2010 but we still got a decent haul for him. Imagine if we had sold high, maybe we get a good starter, SS, and another IF prospect
Jake W.
December 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm
Glad he was traded, ended up opening the door for an Andrelton Simmons to fill that spot; if the Braves had kept him, our front office probably would have traded Simmons.
I highly doubt this, especially if his production would have dropped off. He may have survived that season but I think Yunel would have been traded eventually.
Soph
December 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm
Hi Jake, yup pleasantly surprised that the Hawks are pretty decent or at least winning more games than losing. It’s funny though because you know 3/4 of the team is gone during or after this season.
Oh, Josh, where to start…I’ve pretty much given up on him. Hard. Headed.
Jeff R
December 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm
Nobody is making excuses for Belcher, just saying that maybe you should not be so quick to dismiss the idea of head trauma maybe having played somewhat of a role. Even if what he did had nothing to do with head trauma, the game is violent and a lot of players pay a price for it. The results speak for themselves. Forget Belcher and look at the numerous players who have had health problems due to the game. It’s not a witch hunt. It’s former players searching for some answers.
Tough game. There are injuries. There are injuries in football that cause health problems long after a player’s career ends. Certainly, technology has helped somewhat in improving safety, but there are risks attendant to playing the game.
But playing the game is, after all, a choice. The risks aren’t unknown.
Trader Jack
December 3rd, 2012
10:20 pm
cab
Benching? Those idiots running that operation still want to win some games. Bench him, and what few people show up might not. Suspension? Highly unlikely as the MLBPA would come down hard on Loria and the Marlins. He would welcome a trade to KC at this time knowing they will trade him sooner than the Marlins, knowing they won’t want to pay what he’ll earn in Arb
Jake W.
December 3rd, 2012
10:22 pm
But playing the game is, after all, a choice. The risks aren’t unknown.
Well now they aren’t but let’s not kid ourselves, before all this research began into the long term effects of football some of the risks may have been unknown. Today’s players have more knowledge than the last but even they don’t know the full extent of some of the risk. The mistakes of the past are the reason so many of these new rules have been implemented. The sport will always be violent but the NFL for its part is trying to prevent unnecessary injuries and I have no problem with that.
cabravesfan
December 3rd, 2012
10:24 pm
Trader Jack-
Players can be suspended for conduct detrimental to the team- lack of effort, intentionally causing errors, and other things that you mentioned would fit that definition. Bottom line, it’s not going to happen. He is not arb eligible for 2 more years. I said they would not trade him now. When he does become arb eligible, that is a different story.
Trader Jack
December 3rd, 2012
10:28 pm
cab
We will see what happens – but don’t be surprised
Trader Jack
December 3rd, 2012
10:28 pm
cab
We will see what happens – but don’t be surprised
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 3rd, 2012
10:29 pm
WHEN Stanton is traded, I feel sorry for whoever is sent back to the Marlins… their team is just ending those players to the “hell” of the MLB.
Jake W.
December 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm
Part of me is loving the fact that the lakers are struggling so much. I honestly don’t know what they are trying to build out there right now. Would love it if the Clippers ended up being the “it” team in LA. Still a Jamal Crawford fan.
cabravesfan
December 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm
Trader Jack-
What motivation would the Marlins have to trade him now? They know they are not going to contend next season, Stanton is beyond cheap, he draws fans…do you honestly think they care if he’s happy? There are maybe 2 other players of his caliber that they would consider and neither one is going to be traded any time soon (McCutcheon or Trout. Not happening)
cabravesfan
December 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm
Jake-
the Lakers are not trying to build anything. They are in “keep Kobe happy” mode and it has totally killed their team. It makes me happy
kenhotlanta
December 3rd, 2012
10:34 pm
Remember the whistle that Yunel did all the time on the field and it drove the other players crazy because it was so shrill? He said that’s the way he played in Cuba and he wasn’t going to change or stop doing it for anyone. He was a real jerk because he refused to change or adapt to what was acceptable.
Soph
December 3rd, 2012
10:35 pm
Can’t stand Dwight Howard, hope the Lakers continue to self implode. It’s just like the Eagles and their “dream team” last year.
Soph
December 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm
Hey ken, what did you think of TWD midseason finale? This season has been so much fun to watch so far. February can’t come soon enough.
Jake W.
December 3rd, 2012
10:40 pm
They are in “keep Kobe happy” mode and it has totally killed their team.
The ironic thing is the guy has looked the farthest from happy. His star has faded, happens to them all. He’s older and needs more help so they get the even older Nash and I hope they weren’t convinced that trading for Dwight was like trading for Shaq. I’m loving the dysfunction. The “Lake Show” indeed.
Trader Jack
December 3rd, 2012
10:43 pm
cab
The Marlins are not contending for the foreseeable future, hell the franchise will probably sold within the next 2-3 years. Yes Stanton is a draw, but not one that would sell out the place. They will be hard pressed to draw 1 million fans this year, that’s how much Loria and his cronies are despised in South Beach
Between Stanton, Nolasco and Morrison, they could really screw things up more than they are now
cabravesfan
December 3rd, 2012
10:43 pm
Jake-
We get stories weekly about Kobe b*tching out one or more of his teammates. He’s the very definition of a self involved, arrogant, a** of a player who thinks it’s all about him (No, I don’t like him and never have)
cabravesfan
December 3rd, 2012
10:45 pm
Trader Jack-
So why would they trade him? Zero reason to. None.
(I need to end this- dinner time)
kenhotlanta
December 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm
Soph: The Walking Dead got better and better each week and this was one of the best seasons ever for ANY show. I was literally on the edge of my chair for most of the last few weeks of shows, they were that intense. I really like the new characters they have introduced, especially Michonne and Tyresse (sp?) (that actor played “Cutty” on The Wire and is great). Also you love to hate The Governor and Merle (for now, he may come around?) and I wonder what Andrea will do.
It’a so well written, filmed and and just totally exciting, TV just doesn’t get much better than this. I can’t wait for February either, and “Justified” starts in January, so that’s a lot to look forward to.
Jake W.
December 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm
He’s the very definition of a self involved, arrogant, a** of a player who thinks it’s all about him
My favorite image of Kobe is back when the Lakers were in the midst of their dynasty and were playing the Kings. Even with Shaq in his prime and a very talented team as a whole Kobe was adamant on taking the last shot to win. He drives to the whole, the defense collapses on him and the balls hits the rim rolls out to Horry who had been wide open the whole time and nails the shot to win it. It’s not about winning for him, its all about him, and that epitomizes it. He was never going to pass that ball. I’m surprised Shaq put up with him as long as he did.
cabravesfan
December 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm
Jake-
Thanks for bringing up that memory (I was a Kings fan for years when I could still watch the NBA without getting nauseous)
Jake W.
December 3rd, 2012
11:07 pm
I loved the Kings back then, favorite West Conf. team. Couldn’t believe how lucky the man got, it’s why the image is so vivid for me. He had lost that game for them with his selfishness and got a reprieve somehow.
garyis
December 3rd, 2012
11:23 pm
DOB- is there any scenario where we could trade uggla, even if it was part of a salary dump? it is
not that i am so down on him it’s just that we have a team that will have so many strike outs. would
it be feasible to find a team that would pay him $10m a year and the braves would eat $3m? i
understand that we would then have to find a 2nd baseman and left fielder, but we would still have
our trade chips and a lot of extra money.
garyis
December 3rd, 2012
11:42 pm
this is to everyone who hates the lakers. i live in LA and i am a life long laker fan. i hate the clippers. for all you people living in atlanta imagine how you would feel if the bobcats moved to atlanta and became your second team. would you all feel happy about that? i wasn’t about the clippers.
imagine if the hawks would have drafted kobe and he played for you the last 17 years and brought
you 5 championships. would you still hate him? LA drafted kobe with the 14th pick in the draft. i bet
the hawks had an earlier pick then the lakers did that year. i can not defend his personality just
like i’m sure there are braves that i would hate if i knew them. but i am a bigger brave fan then laker fan.
lastly, imagine how we laker fan feel that after david stern voids the chris paul trade and then gives him to the clippers. and dwight howard- didn’t he grow up in atlanta. would you hate him if he was on
hawks. the lakers traded bynum for him- someone they drafted with the 10th pick.
ChattTownBrian
December 3rd, 2012
11:48 pm
I think Braves make a move tomorrow. Still have this feeling they’re going after the other Upton. Sounds way too tempting. Having BJ here could push their interest more than before. That’s what I think.
Mountain Braves Fan
December 3rd, 2012
11:48 pm
Scott Hairston would be a major fourth outfielder upgrade over Reed Johnson:
Johnson–269 ABs, 3 HRs, 2 SBs, .735 OPS, 100 OPS+.
Hairston–377 ABs, 20 HRs, 8 SBs, .803 OPS, 117 OPS+.
Hairston, like Johnson, is a free agent, plays all three outfield positions, is 3 1/2 years younger than Johnson (Johnson turns 36 this week), and made $1.1 million in 2012. He will be getting a raise from someone after the 20 HR season.
If the Braves don’t come up with a frontline left fielder, Hairston would be an ideal LF/3B platoon partner for Francisco and Prado. Hairston’s .867 OPS versus LHP is excellent, and he has enough pop to be an effective right handed pinch hitter. He would also be a very good insurance policy if the Braves want to give Gattis a shot to win the left field job in spring training.
cabravesfan
December 3rd, 2012
11:59 pm
Garyis-
I am a born and bred LA girl and proud of it. I grew up living & dying with Magic, Kareem, Worthy, & Scott. I dispise the lakers in their current form and have for a while now. It’s not the name on the front of the jersey, it’s the name on he back that I don’t like
And on that note- good night blog!
tony austin
December 4th, 2012
12:02 am
The Hornets were actually the team that drafted Kobe. Then they traded him to the Lakers. Oops.
richbrave
December 4th, 2012
12:10 am
SOUTH OF THE BORDER
DOMINICA
LICEY TOGERS
3B JUAN FRANCISCO [.309 BA] 1-4, 1R, HAT TRICK!
PH CHRISTIAN BETHANCOURT [.250 BA] 0-0, 1 BB.
LHSP YOHAN FLANDE [2.20 ERA] 6.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R/ER, 2 BB, 1 SO.
VENEZUELA
LARA CARDINALS
C JOSE YEPEZ [.239 BA] 0-3
LHRP LUIS AVILAN [1.76 ERA] 1.0 IP, perfection, 2 SO.
Outstanding start tonight. He allows his first earned run in three outings since coming over to the TIGERS from the BULLS where he was used strictly in relief.
richbrave
December 4th, 2012
12:12 am
FLANDE gets the start. AVILAN used strictly in relief down south.
garyis
December 4th, 2012
12:13 am
The Hornets were actually the team that drafted Kobe. Then they traded him to the Lakers. Oops. tony austin
the trade was made before the draft. jerry west agreed to trade vlade divacs to the hornets if they drafted kobe. i believe the trade went down that night. my point was that the lakers over the years
with the exception of the shaq signing have built their club through the draft and good trades. and yes they have the ability to spend a lot of money.
i enjoy following the braves not only because i am a fan, but as a mid market team they need to rely
on there farm system to survive. and they do this well.
garyis
December 4th, 2012
12:14 am
The Hornets were actually the team that drafted Kobe. Then they traded him to the Lakers. Oops. tony austin
the trade was made before the draft. jerry west agreed to trade vlade divacs to the hornets if they drafted kobe. i believe the trade went down that night. to me this is a smart trade. my point was that the lakers over the years
with the exception of the shaq signing have built their club through the draft and good trades. and yes they have the ability to spend a lot of money.
i enjoy following the braves not only because i am a fan, but as a mid market team they need to rely
on there farm system to survive. and they do this well.
richbrave
December 4th, 2012
12:16 am
Later sports fans, and hail to the REDSKINS!
brian
December 4th, 2012
12:17 am
agree with Scott Hairston
brian
December 4th, 2012
12:18 am
DOB – who has a higher price tag in a trade – Alex Gordon or Justin Upton?? Who do you think would be the better fit for the Braves???
ncbravesfan90
December 4th, 2012
12:23 am
This idea or notion that we will just pocket to money and use it during the season is somewhat mind boggling to me. We lose Chipper, Bourn, and probably not a fully healthy McCann for a while, and we talk about just acquiring one piece? If we had just lost Bourn to FA this year then I agree that BJ Upton would be the only piece we need and then pocket some money to use at the trade deadline. But we lose the Atlanta Braves icon at third base, Bourn to FA, and McCann for the first month or so. We can’t afford to start someone in centerfield like Constanza who didn’t even make the team as a 4th outfielder this past year, or Gattis who hasn’t proved anything above Double A and is primarily a catcher or DH at this point, or have Francisco at third who adds to an already strikeout heavy lineup. There has to be another signing or acqusition before Spring Training and I’m sure deep down that Wren knows this as well.
ncbravesfan90
December 4th, 2012
12:25 am
Jon Heyman@JonHeymanCBS
Mariners/dbacks met tonite. upton on menu. Could ss nick franklin and rhp taijuan walker entuce?
Surely we can beat a package that the Mariners will offer. I hope so, at least. If not, our farm system is in deep trouble.
jed
December 4th, 2012
12:40 am
scott hairston could handle the right side of a platoon nicely. it’s just a question of who would be the lefty bat in that platoon–remembering the lefty will get most of the playing time.
nolie
December 4th, 2012
12:48 am
our farm system is weak right now no doubt. Seattle has a much stronger system
nolie
December 4th, 2012
12:56 am
I’ll pass on Hairston but he sounds about the level they might be looking for. hope not
brian
December 4th, 2012
12:59 am
Hairston as part of a platoon would work well
nolie
December 4th, 2012
1:02 am
who’s he gonna platoon with, Constanza??
DS1
December 4th, 2012
1:09 am
Scott Hairston is a backup outfielder, who I am guessing is looking for starters money. He’d be a good 4th outfielder.
Or Reed Johnson.
Get one of em Frank!
DAP
December 4th, 2012
1:31 am
i thin i like reed johnson a litle bit better. not as much power, but better average and OBP. check hairstons OBP lasr year. its terrible.
David O'Brien
December 4th, 2012
1:52 am
DOB – who has a higher price tag in a trade – Alex Gordon or Justin Upton?? Who do you think would be the better fit for the Braves??? — brian
J. Upton no doubt has the higher price tag, in terms of the talent they’re asking in return.
NV049
December 4th, 2012
2:52 am
… I still might take a chance on G.Sizemore low dollar & resign Reed Johnson
NV049
December 4th, 2012
2:58 am
Read on another board mentioned De Aza CF white sox might not take alot to get him..
Ward
December 4th, 2012
3:35 am
Rockies GM says they will not trade Dexter Fowler, like the Braves won’t trade Simmons…….Justin Upton is looking less hopeful now. I sure hope Wren, is just down playing it. I figured Pagan would sign with Giants, so now I’m just curious what’s Wren, up too, or if he will wait now? Could a trade happen? It’s possibe? We will just have to wait, and see…….
Ward
December 4th, 2012
4:07 am
I still think it’s coming down to Shane Victorino, or Cody Ross….. All, have a good one! Talk later, and Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
NV049
December 4th, 2012
5:19 am
I dont think they got enough money to sign either one & fill out the bench with good talent.If we only got 10 mil in the kitty.
richbrave
December 4th, 2012
6:05 am
One day inro the winter meetings and a JANISH signing all there is on the BRAVES ledger at this point.
That signing BTW does not bode well for the REV.
Hearing rumblings of filling needs from prospects in the system makes me a bit quesy also.
But with prices as they are for trades that may ultimately be our last best option.
richbrave
December 4th, 2012
6:12 am
If we’re stimied on the trade front, I think WREN signs REED JOHNSON coming out the other end of the meetings Thursday or Friday.
Potential trade pieces
TYLER PASTORNICKY
JUAN FRANCISCO
ERNESTO MEJIA
EVAN GATTIS
TODD CUNNINGHAM
ZEKE SPRUILL
DAVID HALE
CORY GEARRIN
JUAN JAIME
MARK LAMM
Arkansas Transplant
December 4th, 2012
6:51 am
Richbrave, Hopefully that won’t happen and we can find a good trade partner.
Arkansas Transplant
December 4th, 2012
6:56 am
I’d like to see us use EOF or Venters.. I’d prefer EOF… to get a couple of good prospects in return. Then possibly putting a good package together to acquire a very good LF that will be here more than a year or two.
I’d really like to see us work something out with Florida and get Stanton.. I’d give them both Teheran, Delgado, Ahmed and another one of our top 10 prospects plus a low level prospect. Then I’d like to see us use the savings to sign someone like Grienke.
Arkansas Transplant
December 4th, 2012
6:58 am
How good could that lineup be? Plus, we would have fixed out outfield for quite a long time to come. Not to mention the pitching rotation would be quite solid.
Arkansas Transplant
December 4th, 2012
7:06 am
What do you think EOF would bring on the trade market, say from a team like the Rangers that are looking to strengthen their pitching?
Heath
December 4th, 2012
7:09 am
Hairston would indeed make a good platoon partner on LF if it comes to that.
Arkansas Transplant
December 4th, 2012
7:13 am
I wonder is if EOF could bring a return like Sardinas.. that would be a pretty good return if that was all we’d receive but we might be able to swing one more prospect out of the deal.
Jeff R
December 4th, 2012
7:17 am
But playing the game [football] is, after all, a choice. The risks aren’t unknown.
Well now they aren’t but let’s not kid ourselves, before all this research began into the long term effects of football some of the risks may have been unknown. Today’s players have more knowledge than the last but even they don’t know the full extent of some of the risk. The mistakes of the past are the reason so many of these new rules have been implemented. The sport will always be violent but the NFL for its part is trying to prevent unnecessary injuries and I have no problem with that.
One doesn’t need scads of research to know that big men crashing into each other repeatedly over a long period is likely to result in injuries. More importantly, football players have experienced and lived with the aftermath of game-related injuries for a longer time than the public attention and awareness is these days. No? Go look at guys like Earl Campbell. But he wasn’t an exception. Plenty of examples throughout the history of the game.
Jeff R
December 4th, 2012
7:21 am
Could Wren revisit a deal for Olt, minus Simmons?
Arkansas Transplant
December 4th, 2012
7:24 am
Jeff, I’d love for us to get Olt but not sure what it would take.. I’d like to see what we could get if we were to move EOF while his value is at it’s highest.
Then I’m wondering if we couldn’t entice Florida to move Stanton. I’m sure we have the pieces, just not sure if they’d move him but with Florida you never know. We have had success working with them in the past however.
Arkansas Transplant
December 4th, 2012
7:26 am
Most likely any trade for Stanton would have to be loaded with some top prospects, I would doubt they’d want current major league players with wanting to have a youth movement.
Arkansas Transplant
December 4th, 2012
7:28 am
with the possibility that you could get your future one and two starter, you’d have to at least think about it. Not to mention the other pieces of that package.
Jeff R
December 4th, 2012
7:30 am
Arkansas Transplant, I do think Wren is in Nashville fishing for a a significant deal. Publicly floating Teheran’s and Delgado’s names is pretty remarkable for Wren.
CB
December 4th, 2012
7:33 am
You guys are silly, Wren already talking “internal options’. 80mil payroll, here we come. LOL
Arkansas Transplant
December 4th, 2012
7:34 am
One thing about moving both of them, I would suspect we’d need to sign a starter or receive one in return for depth specially after we’ve already moved Hanson.
old man
December 4th, 2012
7:36 am
I prefer Gordon to Justin anyway. If DOB says the trade price is “no doubt” lower for Gordon, then by all means do that.
If all our top tier options fall through, the Hairston/Francisco platoon would work.
richbrave, I fear “hat trick” for Francisco means three Ks, not three BBs. Correct?
Stanton would be a five star, and unlikely bordering on impossible.
Myers, Upton, Gordon are our four star options.
Choo is three and a half stars.
Arkansas Transplant
December 4th, 2012
7:37 am
Wren has continued to express his interest in Grienke for some reason.. that’s not usually his MO if there wasn’t some sort of plan to get him under the budget restraints. Usually Wren doesn’t hint around the bushes much, if someone is priced out of the Braves range, normally he says as much.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 4th, 2012
7:39 am
Id love to get Olt, but we probably would need to send them something to flip for Upton… unless, they wont be chasing him and just need to move Olt… Maholm, Teheran, Lipka… seems light
‘d love to sell high on EOF… send him to the Cards and get a flamethorwing prospect in return. We gotta get some compensation for him, he’s gone after the season. However, I think the only way he is moved is if he’s part of apackage to get an OF.
Maybe the Braves are looking at internal options so they can not be counted out for the top pitcher to hit the market in a while? That would be very nice.
old man
December 4th, 2012
7:39 am
As I recall the Marlins ended up with something crazy like 3 SSs after the Toronto trade.
To get Stanton, we would have to trade Simmons and others, and Miami would flip Simmons to someone like AZ, who really covets him, for a bunch of cheap prospects.
For Stanton, and pretty much Stanton only, I would consider that.
old man
December 4th, 2012
7:40 am
What’s the over/under on how many times people will hit “Control R” on the blog today?
Jeff R
December 4th, 2012
7:42 am
You guys are silly, Wren already talking “internal options’. 80mil payroll, here we come. LOL
Well, Wren does have to hedge his bets.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 4th, 2012
7:45 am
CB Dont say that! It’s gonna make Ef mad
Yep, Juan did whiff thrice last night… seems to me like he’s striking out more frequently while recording fewer hits. Not good. He got hot for a bit, now he’s back to his old free-swinging ways it seems. And he rarely walks… it’s why I don’t want him as a starter
Jeff R
December 4th, 2012
7:45 am
Wren’s not trading Simmons.
Jeff R
December 4th, 2012
7:46 am
Francisco – Mr. Streaky II (Uggla will always be #1)
Arkansas Transplant
December 4th, 2012
7:47 am
I think a package of Teheran, Delgado, Ahmed and possibly another top 10 and 1 lower level prospect would net us Stanton in return. I don’t think we’d have to include Simmons given the amount of talent they acquire.
I’d rather receive someone like Olt in the return for EOF, but I wouldn’t mind Sardinas either. Specially given if the above trade were to take place.
old man
December 4th, 2012
7:49 am
Francisco is maddening. How can a guy square up a ball so often, and completely miss it so often?
Really, his fielding metrics at 3B last year were not bad. They were sort of average.