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Brava
December 3rd, 2012
5:50 pm
Royals manager Ned Yost suggested that outfielder Wil Myers — Baseball America’s Minor League Player of the Year in 2012 after hitting 37 homers in Double-A and Triple-A as a 21-year-old — reminds him of a young Dale Murphy, the former Braves center fielder and two-time NL MVP. He suggested that like Murphy, Myers has 30-plus homer potential. Kansas City plans to let him compete for an everyday job in spring training.
http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2012/12/03/hot-stove-royals-manager-ned-yost-on-wil-myers-rumors-and-kcs-pursuit-of-a-starter/
JC Brave
December 3rd, 2012
5:51 pm
DOB teasing everyone with a picture of Justin Upton on the front page…
Change it with one of Hamilton tomorrow, then one of Greinke wednesday!
And see if you can photoshop a Braves’ uniform on all of them!
It’ll be fun!
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
5:54 pm
Barry Davis @SNBarryDavis
Gibbons says he’s already envisioned starting lineup and rotation. Says his top 4 in order will be Reyes, Cabrera, Jose, Edwin. #bluejays
BFChris28
December 3rd, 2012
5:55 pm
Yankees are interested in Cody Ross.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
5:55 pm
Ben Ingram @IngramRadio
“Met with several agents today on free agent guys. Primarily guys that can fill bench.” -Wren
BFChris28
December 3rd, 2012
5:57 pm
Rule 5 draft should be interesting. Maybe Wren plucks someone for LF out of the draft?
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
5:59 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Frank Wren says the #Braves primary focus at the #WinterMeetings is left field and lead off…ideally someone who can fill both needs
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
5:59 pm
Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1
#Mets have interest in Ryan Ludwick They may end up budgeting a few extra dollars to address their severe OF needs
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:00 pm
Ben Ingram @IngramRadio
If #Braves trade Delgado or Teheran or other pitching prospects, it’d be a significant deal. Wren said, “I don’t know if that happens.”
BFChris28
December 3rd, 2012
6:02 pm
I still want Justin Upton or Shane Victorino, but this waiting game is kind of nerve wrecking.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:03 pm
Uh-oh. Are we looking at the bottom fo the bucket again for a LF? I really thought we were aiming high. I wonder if that’s still the case.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:05 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Phillies have talked to #Rockies about Fowler. Rockies would want pitching back, for now and future.
BFChris28
December 3rd, 2012
6:05 pm
Maybe Wren is just posturing.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:05 pm
I just want some rumors for now.
BFChris28
December 3rd, 2012
6:07 pm
Hoping Wren gets LF this week or soon after.
Heath
December 3rd, 2012
6:09 pm
Channel surfing… stumbled on the Truman Show. Can you imagine if your life really was an elaborate reality tv show like that? That’s nuts. Pretty good flick.
nolie
December 3rd, 2012
6:10 pm
Choo would be great, damn shame he is a Boras client
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:10 pm
John Fay @johnfayman
Baker: #Reds have offer out to Ludwick. “We hope he accepts it.”
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:10 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
If the Braves make a move on the FA market, it will likely be to sign a bench player. Still evaluating potential trade options for an OF
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:15 pm
Choo of 2010 would be exceptional! Choo of last year would be very darn good.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:15 pm
Jason Heyward @JasonHeyward
RT @PeterMoylan: Big red is gonna dominate Cali. Good luck Tommy Hanson. You are one of my favorites.
jeffrey d
December 3rd, 2012
6:16 pm
DOB teasing everyone with a picture of Justin Upton on the front page…
I’m roughly 100% positive DOB has nothing to do with the pictures on the front page.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:17 pm
“To me, they don’t belong in there. They cheated. That’s the way it is. If my brother did that, I’d say the same thing about my brother. I mean, I know those guys. They’re good friends of mine. But by golly, they didn’t do it the right way.” – Tommy LaSorda
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:18 pm
Kick the tires on Ben Zobrist.
kenhotlanta
December 3rd, 2012
6:19 pm
Great move to keep Janish for the bench, he’s a big upgrade over having The Rev for 2013. We still need Johnson and a LF or a big time 3rd baseman and I don’t know anyone out there since Headly is a no go.
Mitchie-sand
December 3rd, 2012
6:20 pm
probably “unreachable.”
Oh snap.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:20 pm
That LaSorda quote was in reference to Bonds, Clemens, & Sosa.
nolie
December 3rd, 2012
6:21 pm
Bah, put them all in. Plenty of cheaters already in there, the only difference between amphetamines and
steroids is efficiency. Cheating is cheating.
nolie
December 3rd, 2012
6:23 pm
would love Zobby, but haven’t heard anything about them trading him
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:26 pm
Noles, yeah, they probably don’t want to, but you know the rays; they think outside the box. They may be intrigued by a good package.
Trader Jack
December 3rd, 2012
6:27 pm
I;d be in favor of putting them in also – posthumously
I wouldn’t give them the honor of standing on the podium
Also, welcome back
Patrick
December 3rd, 2012
6:28 pm
Wren said he doesn’t know if Braves will be able to trade for a LF (or sign one, though said free agents on their list now are below trade targets). But said if don’t make a move, have some players in-house who could be interesting to watch compete for a spot in spring, such as Constanza and Gattis in left or Francisco at 3B (and let Prado stay in LF at least part of the time).
That makes me want to PUKE!
and with Pagan’s deal being lowered that expected (at least lower than I thought) will Victorino’s price have to come down then?
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:30 pm
Very good point about cheaters of the past, Nolie
jeffrey d
December 3rd, 2012
6:30 pm
Hey, nolie’s back
MFin04
December 3rd, 2012
6:30 pm
Heck I doubt Bourn will go for under $100 million, but if he ends up around $75 million, it’d be an interesting outfield with Upton, Bourn, and Heyward.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:31 pm
The vibe seems to be that something really has changed in regards to getting a LF. Seems the team’s resources and confidence have both declined…
Trey
December 3rd, 2012
6:31 pm
Looks like y’all had your hands full last night with name stealers.
Murph
December 3rd, 2012
6:31 pm
Meaning Gattis, Constanza, or possibly Francisco at 3B w/ Prado more in LF.
All that money to spend, all those trade chips, and the team is going to go into ST with Constanza or Francisco as a possible starter?
That would be a big fail… unless Wren is going to use the money on the rotation. Then it might not be so bad.
Trey
December 3rd, 2012
6:32 pm
nolie, I went to the GA Tech/Florida State game. Now I can see why you like ‘em. They handed a whoopin’ to the Jackets. Of course, what team really can’t!
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:33 pm
Just one name-stealer, Trey. Paul Lentz.
Trey
December 3rd, 2012
6:33 pm
Whoops, I forgot, we ain’t ‘posed to be talking about other sports.
Puma
December 3rd, 2012
6:33 pm
It would kind of suck for Prado, but alternating between J Francisco at 3B and Gattis in LF depending on righty lefty matchup would not be the end of the world. Lineup not as deep obviously, could it could get us by for a month or two, and hey maybe Gattis plays himself into everyday role.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:33 pm
Murph, still like your idea of trading for Stanton.
keyLargo
December 3rd, 2012
6:34 pm
Enter your comments here
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:34 pm
We need a LF. We have been about one player away for years now. Go for it!
jeffrey d
December 3rd, 2012
6:35 pm
Just one name-stealer, Trey. Paul Lentz.
But George George found one quote where he wasn’t offensive, so that makes PL a good guy.
Puma
December 3rd, 2012
6:36 pm
I am sure Nats would never trade him to us, but Morse would be nice.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:38 pm
Hopefully, Wren is just posturing with the internal options so the other GMs don’t think he’s desperate to make a deal.
Murph
December 3rd, 2012
6:39 pm
Bonds and McGwire should never be inducted into the HoF. Never ever never.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:39 pm
I certainly hope so, Brava.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:41 pm
Should Rose be in?
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:42 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Wren and some other members of his staff are heading to the Dominican this weekend to watch Francisco, Teheran, Delgado, Constanza & Co.
BFChris28
December 3rd, 2012
6:42 pm
If Bonds, Clemens or any others get into HOF, Rose should definitely get in.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:44 pm
If Bonds, Clemens or any others get into HOF, Rose should definitely get in.
I agree with this, but don’t think any of them should get in.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:44 pm
If we replace Chipper and Bourn with Upton and Constanza, well, that will not be very good. Trade for Willingham. The money fits.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:45 pm
Maybe Wren and crew should have gone down before the meetings?
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:46 pm
Agree, Jason.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:46 pm
But what about all of the folks in already that used speed daily to be able to get through the grind?
richbrave
December 3rd, 2012
6:46 pm
Meh!
P'cola Brave
December 3rd, 2012
6:46 pm
Sounds like Wren has an offer out to Reed Johnson. Would be nice to have him back on the bench.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:46 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
Wren: “in a perfect world, we could find a left fielder leadoff type and feel pretty good about our club” #Braves
BFChris28
December 3rd, 2012
6:46 pm
Brava
I agree with that assertion as well. I think none of em should, but if Bonds n them do, it’s only fair Rose get in. Despite the differences in what they did, it both hurt the integrity of the game.
richbrave
December 3rd, 2012
6:48 pm
nolie:
You’re a bad,bad man. Had our bowels all in an uproar. Us old farts anyway. Welcome back.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:49 pm
Looks like LM strikes again? We need a LF. If we have to increase the budget by 2% to do it considering attendance was up last year and we hosted a playoff game, then by the hell; the team’s management should be able to do it.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:50 pm
But what about all of the folks in already that used speed daily to be able to get through the grind?
You have to start somewhere with doing the right thing. Plus, I think PEDs gave those players much more of an advantage than amphetamines ever could. PEDs actually changed their physiology to make them better performers over a long period, where amphetamines only gave them a temporary energy boost. Big difference.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:52 pm
Good points, Brava.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:53 pm
I think Rose should be in anyway. I am in the minority. He didn’t enhance his performance. The good moral clause is a freaking joke. Was Ty Cobb a good, moral person?
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
6:54 pm
BFChris, I agree with that.
richbrave
December 3rd, 2012
6:55 pm
The REV, and MEJIA, for one year of MORSE @7 million, and an arm to be named later.
Murph
December 3rd, 2012
6:56 pm
You have to start somewhere with doing the right thing.
Exactly. What’s done is done. Alcoholics, womanizers, amphetamine users, etc… can’t revote now. What’s done is done.
Doesn’t mean that history has to be repeated. Gotta draw the line in the sand and move forward from there. Bonds, McGwire, et all… screw ‘em.
ncgary
December 3rd, 2012
6:56 pm
rose was and is charlie hustle
what more could you want from a baseball player
old man
December 3rd, 2012
6:56 pm
Wren needs to stand firm. Part with Delgado or Teheran only if Upton, Gordon, Myers, maybe Choo are involved. Be prepared to walk away from the table.
I would bet money that someone–Francisco, Reed Johnson, Gattis, Ahmed–will step up if they have to.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
6:58 pm
old man, I agree with the first part of your statement, but hope neither come to fruition!
old man
December 3rd, 2012
6:58 pm
Teheran would be a far more attractive trade piece than Dickey, IMHO.
Re: KC turning down Dickey for Myers. Teheran alone is not enough, but certainly Dickey is not enough. 5M for a one year rental of a 38 year old one year wonder? And KC does not have a lot of budget room, even for 5M.
BFChris28
December 3rd, 2012
6:59 pm
Juan C. Rodriguez @JCRMarlinsbeat
#Marlins in trade talks with at least two teams involving Yunel Escobar.
richbrave
December 3rd, 2012
7:00 pm
A trade of TEHERAN or DELGADO happens only if the ZACK GREINKE deal comes our way.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
7:00 pm
Ha!
MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors
Marlins Actively Shopping Yunel Escobar http://bit.ly/TIWUL5
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
7:01 pm
Maybe the Braves are working a three way deal to send him to AZ?
I know, I know…but, I am not giving up on the Braves getting a good to great LF. I just am not doing it…
Trader Jack
December 3rd, 2012
7:06 pm
Murph
What money to spend? After the guaranteed contracts, arbitration, filling the needs on the bench, then the league minimum plus players, the Braves are about maxed out
Trader Jack
December 3rd, 2012
7:06 pm
Murph
What money to spend? After the guaranteed contracts, arbitration, filling the needs on the bench, then the league minimum plus players, the Braves are about maxed out
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
7:08 pm
Random thought – Bourn should have wond the GG last year.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
7:09 pm
If we start the year with Constanza in LF…man, that will just plain suck.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
7:09 pm
All the Fish want to jump ship. Gee, wonder why?
Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick
Ricky Nolasco wants the #marlins to trade him, agent says.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
7:10 pm
Let’s go for it. Personally, I think Teheran’s value has decreased and I would trade him for a good LF that is under control for more than a year.
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
7:10 pm
Shoot, the Marlins mascot wants them to trade him too.
P'cola Brave
December 3rd, 2012
7:13 pm
Just a thought but if the Brewers jump in and become serious about Hamilton and happen to land him would they look to move Aramis Ramirez or Corey Hart. Either would fit our need as a corner player.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
7:13 pm
Amanda Comak @acomak
At this point, with his market robust, the #Nats are unlikely to re-sign LHP Sean Burnett: http://ht.ly/fNicP
JasonInFL
December 3rd, 2012
7:14 pm
wokr your magic, FW!
Disgusted
December 3rd, 2012
7:16 pm
I don’t know what he said but I apologize to BravePack and to Disgusted for his going over the line if he did.
@Nolie — No problem, all is good with me. Now this is the best time to discuss baseball — still working on getting over that SEC Championship game.
Something will be done this week cause I think Wren is pursuing the team’s needs aggressively this winter. Who they get is another thing. I have been on record of liking the BJ signing.
Big Nick
December 3rd, 2012
7:16 pm
I’m having a Brett Gardner and Jeff Keppinger feeling!
Disgusted
December 3rd, 2012
7:19 pm
Re: KC turning down Dickey for Myers. Teheran alone is not enough, but certainly Dickey is not enough. 5M for a one year rental of a 38 year old one year wonder? And KC does not have a lot of budget room, even for 5M.
Old Man — If Myers is that hot a prospect they should turn that one dowm. Dickey is a great story, has something left but he is a storybook and how long does Dickey go at even 75 percent of this level he was at in 2012.
I would do Teheran, Venters and Gilmartin. We cannot really give up Delgado.
old man
December 3rd, 2012
7:21 pm
JasoninFLA
I’m not a big Constanza hater, he has done quite well when called upon, but I agree that it would be a disappointment to see him out there as anything other than a last bench spot.
BFChris28
December 3rd, 2012
7:23 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #Rays pursuing #Marlins’ Escobar to be everyday shortstop. #Athletics also could be in play.
old man
December 3rd, 2012
7:23 pm
Disgusted
Agreed. I like Teheran fine for 2014 and beyond. For 2013, I will take Delgado every day of the week.
Brava
December 3rd, 2012
7:25 pm
I imagine anyone traded for Yunel isn’t going to be very happy.
Disgusted
December 3rd, 2012
7:25 pm
You have to start somewhere with doing the right thing. Plus, I think PEDs gave those players much more of an advantage than amphetamines ever could. PEDs actually changed their physiology to make them better performers over a long period, where amphetamines only gave them a temporary energy boost. Big difference.
Brava — I get what you are saying — but some did it more egregiously than others. It is up to the writers to make the judgements,
Guys like Bonds, Mc Guire, Sosa and Clemens seemed to be into that far deeper than a guy who might have done wrong a few times. I don’t think that A-Rod was as much into it as some of the other guys. I would have sworn he was a clean player till he came out with it.
I would not exclude Andy Pettite for a mistake or two. He was not into it that big I don;t think.
George_George
December 3rd, 2012
7:26 pm
Hi all
Got a question for DOB or anyone else who knows. During the winter meetings does something like a rules comittee meet? I am wondering if that rules comittee [if there is one] can change the playoof system to get rid of that awfull one game playin game? If they are going to have two WC teams they should not play each other in first rould because it is unfair to team with better record [ like us last year] y’all saw what happened, we were 6 games better than stinky team we played.
BFChris28
December 3rd, 2012
7:28 pm
Jim Duquette @Jim_Duquette
Source – #Blue Jays are 1 of the serious suitors for RA Dickey – would include a package with a catcher (Arencibia) plus others.
old man
December 3rd, 2012
7:28 pm
Upton, Gordon, Myers are–for different reason–the cream of the crop. Choo is a notch below.
After that, from among the plausible candidates, we get into territory where it is unclear that we are upgrading enough over what we have on hand, to justify the trade price.
I just hope Wren is still in the mix on these top guys.
At 3B, they guys that get me all hot and bothered are Olt, Gyorko, and, of course, Headley. So 3 or 4 at LF, and 3 at 3B. Hope we don’t settle for someone else.
Disgusted
December 3rd, 2012
7:30 pm
I would be cool with Choo but he is a Boras client so stay away.
Is he not up for FA after ‘13?????? Try to avoid Boras guys.