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George_George
November 28th, 2012
8:18 pm
I guess now we will have to put up with all the hoop-la of BJ comming to ATL to sign contract and put on BRAVES jersey for photo opp.
Brava
November 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
I read in two different places that Victorino will be visiting the Braves on Friday. Yuck! I hope it’s not true. Can’t stand the little weasel.
kenhotlanta
November 28th, 2012
8:21 pm
Now that we have Upton (although I was hoping for Kate), and it we can’t get Span, I’m all for Victorino until Gattis is ready for a shot. The Reaper should do just fine as leadoff in Left and he plays pretty good D.
Mixxo
November 28th, 2012
8:21 pm
I keep seeing this ‘Myers’ dude mentioned….who is that?
ncgary
November 28th, 2012
8:21 pm
its just hard for me to accept.love them braves
and i do like the early signing, but sure would rather seen a better crop of free agents to pick from
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
8:21 pm
…all the hoop-la of BJ comming to ATL to sign contract and… — George_George
“comming”? Don’t you mean, “comeing”?
Mixxo
November 28th, 2012
8:22 pm
I love Victorino. Sign him and call it a day.
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
I keep seeing this ‘Myers’ dude mentioned….who is that? — Mixxo
Top prospect for the Royals that they won’t trade unless you give them 1/2 of the franchise.
George_George
November 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
What gets me is for the saame amount of money we could have kept BOURN, he was not great but way better than BJ.
ncgary
November 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
would have rather seen hamilton in left and durango and constanza platooning in center, woulda shoulda cou;da
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
The BJ people got their wish, though I didn’t like him. I like Vic, so let’s get him! That’d be a good OF
chipl1960
November 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
Wil Myers from KC. Minor league power hitting outfielder. Big upside kid
George_George
November 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
I keep seeing this ‘Myers’ dude mentioned….who is that? — Mixxo
Top prospect for the Royals that they won’t trade unless you give them 1/2 of the franchise
***************
Mixxo
They want MEDLEN or MINOR or both.
old man
November 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
Bill James on Uggla:
.238/ .341/ .439/ .780, with 28 HRs
Bill James on BJ
.248/ .329/ .436/ .765, with 23 HRs
And Jason
.272/ .360/ .483/ .843/ with 26 HRs
And Freddie
.282/ .358/ .481/ .839 with 24 HRs
And Bourn
.273 .344 .363 .707 with 5 HRs
Brava
November 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
I’m not thrilled with Upton because visions of Uggla keep dancing in my head every time I think of him, but hopefully he’ll work out. Surely Fredi will keep the two of them separated in the lineup, unlike the McCann/Uggla thing he did all season which created a huge black hole.
old man
November 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
I know its just projections, but .707 vs. .765? Really?
Yes, really.
If Uggla bounces back, our lineup will be stacked.
CB
November 28th, 2012
8:32 pm
Dang,DOB must have gotten our boy Lentz again.
Jeff R
November 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
So, the Braves have Upton for five years… Could be a lot of Ks. Let’s hope that he works on cutting down on his whiffs and ups his contact.
njbraves
November 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
George….You’re wrong about Bourn, he’ll get much more money than BJ. It’s ok, you must be used to being wrong at this point though.
njbraves
November 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
George….You’re wrong about Bourn, he’ll get much more money than BJ. It’s ok, you must be used to being wrong at this point though.
njbraves
November 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
George….You’re wrong about Bourn, he’ll get much more money than BJ. It’s ok, you must be used to being wrong at this point though.
njbraves
November 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
George….You’re wrong about Bourn, he’ll get much more money than BJ. It’s ok, you must be used to being wrong at this point though.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
McCann .266/.347/.467/.814 with 23 HR, 84 RBI. Has him playing in 134 games, 488 PAs (I think that’s a bit aggressive)
Get him and Uggla going we’ll be fine. Anything Upton provides is gravy, I guess.
njbraves
November 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
George….You’re wrong about Bourn, he’ll get much more money than BJ. It’s ok, you must be used to being wrong at this point though.
njbraves
November 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
George….You’re wrong about Bourn, he’ll get much more money than BJ. It’s ok, you must be used to being wrong at this point though.
George_George
November 28th, 2012
8:36 pm
Outta here to take cold walk with Peanut, then DUKE B-BALL have a good one, nite all
Brava
November 28th, 2012
8:37 pm
Good thing is, there are a lot of positive comments from Rays fans about Upton under the story of the signing at the MLB site. That makes me feel a bit more optimistic.
TennesseePaul
November 28th, 2012
8:39 pm
oh hum. I’d get excited if I thought this put the team over the top. It doesn’t. I have my doubts it even gets this team halfway back to where it was last season, and that wasn’t even enough. Not too inspiring. I still fail to see the Braves winning the WS over the course of this contract. Perhaps something better comes along, but… whatever.
I’d be happier if they shot Schafer during the press conference.
George_George
November 28th, 2012
8:39 pm
Outta here for cold walk with Peanut, then DUKE B-BALL, have a good one y’all, nite all.
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
8:40 pm
Dang,DOB must have gotten our boy Lentz again. — CB
It would seem so. However, you just can’t keep a real crazy bastard down… it’ll be back, again.
Ray
November 28th, 2012
8:42 pm
@George, Watch. Bourn will be paid more. And there is probably a good chance the Braves offered the same deal to Bourn. Boras is asking for a lot more.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 28th, 2012
8:45 pm
Shane Victorino- .269/.338/.418/.756, 14 HR, 59 RBI, 52 BB, just 77 Ks. Get him.
CB
November 28th, 2012
8:47 pm
Upton more likely to earn his contract than Bourn will be to earn his.
old man
November 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
Bill James on Alex Gordon for 2013:
.284/ .366/ .457/ .823 with 19 HRs
And, oh yeah, he just won the Gold Glove.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
Unless we’re getting Justin Upton, we won’t be ahead of last year… unless the pitching staff is really really good all year and JHey/Freeman go berserk. He could ask for a trade to be with his brother now, but the DBacks don’t have to honor. But I’d work to try to get him.
BFChris28
November 28th, 2012
8:49 pm
kenhotlanta
Indeed.
I am a big fan of old school wrestling, but I still watch it today. I loved the nWo angle when it first started, but it got old once WCW started losing guys like Eddie, Benoit, Malenko and so on. However, despite WCW’s folding, they had a lot of hot angles at the time. I liked the New Generation Era too, about early 90s, when HBK/Bret went from mid card status to the main event.
Today’s wrestling, I like the stuff that reminds me of the old school ones. CM Punk, Bobby Roode, Dolph Ziggler and so on. Speaking of, you should keep your eyes on The Shield (the new group formed recently as they attacked Ryback), which consists of Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns. It reminds me of a throwback group.
Dean Ambrose (Jon Moxley on the independent circuit of wrestling) is going to be the star of the group, but Seth Rollins (Tyler Black on the indies) and Roman Reigns (brother of Rosey from Hurricane/Rosey team) aren’t too shabby and they have qualities of their own.
I love baseball (mainly braves, but like rays and A’s too), football and pro wrestling.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
Gordon would be good as well… leadoff hitter, helps keep our LF defense strong, maybe he can range into CF as well. I’d take him. Teheran, Spruill/Gilmartin, +1.
And Teheran is helping his trade value tonight… Top Prospect Alert @MinorLeagueBlog
#Braves Julio Teheran has not allowed a hit through 4IP tonight in the Dominican Winter League
Bawlmer Brave
November 28th, 2012
8:51 pm
For all those complaining about how many solo HRs that BJ will hit, he has no control over whether they are solo or multi-run HRs. All he can do is work on hitting the HR, how many runners are/aren’t on base is not his fault or success. As far as evaluating his performance, I don’t care if he hits nothing but 30 solo shots. From a Braves fan standpoint, I hope the other hitters in front of him work it out that they hit well enough to make them all GS.
Disgusted
November 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
No problem with getting Victorino if the $$$$$$$$$$$ is there — I really have no idea what a fair contract is.
If Johnny Gomes is getting 5 mil a yr an everyday OF has to be worth at least 9 or 10 mil now. That is why I think the BJ deal has great potential value. Crazy as it sounds it really does.
Someone is going to pay Bourn 20 mil per before this is done — it will be late maybe after the first of the yr. That is how Boras works.
Playoffs!!!
November 28th, 2012
8:54 pm
I like the Upton signing mainly becaus we needed a big righhanded bat to go between the two leftys in the middle of the lineup. I will miss Bourne, but anything that makes this team less lefthanded is a plus.
It will benefit Heyward and Freeman (McCann, too)
I would be OK with Victorino or Fowler in left, not Span
old man
November 28th, 2012
8:54 pm
Brava:
I think a lot of the “I’m from Tampa,” or “I’ve seen him play every game,” and “BJ sucks,” or “he is clubhouse poison,” or “he has a bad attitude and never hustles,” and “take my word for it you guys are getting a load of trouble,” all of that has been very, shall we say, “not random.”
The local Tampa posters you refer to I think would get you a more random sample, and a more accurate sample, of what the “eye test” has revealed about BJ Upton.
BFChris28
November 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
This is what I’d be doing, now that BJ is coming to Atlanta.
Sign Victorino for LF (hold onto prospects in case a need arises later in the season for whatever reason or even in the future), re-sign Reed Johnson and Chad Durbin, sign or trade for an impact arm for in the bullpen and then get another solid bench piece.
Bawlmer Brave
November 28th, 2012
8:57 pm
While BJ might not be the perfect fit, he’s now a Brave and therefore I’m a fan. I like the signing.
Race Card
November 28th, 2012
8:57 pm
Getting BJ should make Hank Aaron, Terrence Moore and the African Americans happy. Two players in the outfield for at least the next five years.
That had to replace Bourn with another African American or there would have been much gnashing of teeth.
Disgusted
November 28th, 2012
8:58 pm
Sign Victorino for LF and save/hold on to the prospects in case a need arises.
Not a bad idea BF Chris 28.
BTW Wrestling used to be something that was fun to watch — you could watch it with your kids. Not anymore. I don’t watch it at all now.
Lost interest after the WCW and NWO era went bye bye. That dates back to the late 90’s early ’00’s. No interest in it now.
old man
November 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
TOBF
Tehran has thrown 4 hitless innings!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh my God!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t trade him!!! He’s a top prospect now!! You are a certified nut if you think we should trade him for someone like Alex whats-his-name!!!!! You are gutting our farm system!!! Oh me!!! Oh my!!!
TOBF, that’s how some people here operate.
Tehran and some more parts for Gordon?
Trade his @ss yesterday.
JC Brave
November 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
Now demand a trade, Justin!
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 28th, 2012
9:01 pm
Have JHey run overShane Victorino @ShaneVictorino
Congrats on your new deal @BJUPTON2! #Tomahawk choppin next year…have a good off-season
Come join him…. 2years, 12mil, 3rd year option maybe.
I guess I can understand keeping the prospects. We can use them to trade for an ace next winter (Price?), a 2B if they decide to move Uggla, or go after a LF yet again. But I’d just love to have that longterm solution out there this season. But hey, we got 1 for CF, so why complain? LF, C, and SP will probably be our big concerns next winter.
With the money we have left, we can probably afford to overpay for a good RHRP arm, someone who’s trying to rebuild value. Soria, maybe. him? Now now….
old man
November 28th, 2012
9:01 pm
Race Card:
Exactly what color are you, as long as you bring it up?
old man
November 28th, 2012
9:03 pm
I think Sherwin Williams has a color called “dumbass.” That would be you Race Card.
Brava
November 28th, 2012
9:03 pm
old man,
I would tend to agree with you. While Upton’s numbers don’t look particularly impressive, I get the impression from the fans that are posting their goodbyes and well-wishes that he was a dynamic and well-liked player. Although I’m not super excited about the signing, he does have my complete support as the newest Brave and I wish him much success here in Atlanta.
BFChris28
November 28th, 2012
9:05 pm
Just say Braves sign Victorino for LF …
1. Shane Victorino LF (S)
2. Martin Prado 3B (R)
3. Jason Heyward RF (L)
4. BJ Upton CF (R)
5. Freddie Freeman 1B (L)
6. Dan Uggla 2B (R)
7. Brian McCann C (L)
8. Andrelton Simmons SS (R)
That would be a very good, balanced, solid and when everyone is healthy and possibly hot at the same time, a lethal lineup.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 28th, 2012
9:05 pm
I’d move Teheran for Gordon or Justin… certainly before I traded Delgado though.
As for RH reliever, Jordan Walden of the Angels is said to be available as well. I really like that kid. Walk rate is “high”, near 4.0/9 like JV, but he throws heat and Ks a lot
Heath
November 28th, 2012
9:07 pm
Lefthanded or not, Span is ideal for the leadoff spot… has always hit well against lefties. Stats don’t lie.
Venice Jim
November 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
Heath – interesting to have your old coach in the ACC…
old man
November 28th, 2012
9:11 pm
Brava:
I think I am toward the pro-BJ end of the spectrum, but only a bit compared to you. The more I looked at it, the more confused I got about his merit. However, at the end, I had a gut feeling that I was going to be disappointed if Philly signed him and we were left looking for second choices. Anyone who says it’s an obviously great or obviously stupid move loses a lot of credibility with me.
My brother in Charlotte heard the ESPN update on the trade, and he reports that some analyst, reacting to the 5/75 contract amount, said something about Philly being upset when they hear that number. The implication was that Philly had offered more money. If true, perhaps that also says something about BJ.
ray k
November 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
Hahahahaha
Upton for 5 yr/70+ million?
Utterly absurd. Just absurd.
Heath
November 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
VJ:
Half the ACC used to be the Big East… UL is a very good school, both academically and athletically. I read somewhere that athletically they are the only school in the last 5 or so years that have had their women bball, men football, men basketball, men soccer, men baseball, in their respective tourneys–solid. Not to mention Louisville, Ky has been the number 1 Mens bball tv market for 10 straight years (thanks to both UK and UL). The ACC got a serious upgrade replacing Maryland–good for them.
Race Card
November 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
Old man race still plays a big part in sports. People just don’t want to admit it for fear of saying something that is not PC.
ray k
November 28th, 2012
9:19 pm
All this talk about Bourn being too pricey was apparently nonsense, eh?
old man
November 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
Race Card:
I’m a white Georgia cracker, born here in Atlanta in 1956, and I think you’re wrong. If you’re right, it’s not just Terrance Moore and Hank Aaron in on the conspiracy, it’s the entire baseball establishment which pretty much across the board rated Upton as one of the top 3, 4 or 5 free agents on the market this year.
Brava
November 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
old man,
I’d love to know what the Phillies offered him! I was just reading a story about the Phillies’ attempts to sign him, but there’s no mention of the terms. I doubt we’ll ever know.
Putting myself in his place, though, I’d want to go to a young team on the rise versus an aging team in decline if the dollars were close.
Nowhere man
November 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
Will this braves be willing to give Mac this same type of contract??
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
Old man, I am African American and if you don’t think that race played a part in this signing then you are not being realistic. — Race Card
If you’re an African American, then I’m a Jupiterian-Saturnan.
Only a messed-up white dude would make a post like that. Someone that just wants to stir up a little excitement, on here, because he has, absolutely, no other life.
You have my sympathies, you pathetic fool.
Venice Jim
November 28th, 2012
9:21 pm
In the meantime, W&M has taken Richmond to double OT, but it’s looking like richbrave’s boys will end up on top…
Playoffs!!!
November 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
Signing another lefthanded hitter like Span would hurt the numbers of Heyward and Freeman (McCann, too). We’d see more lefty pitching again (we led the NL in that category again), and it hurts J-Hey and Freddy’s power numbers especially.
Ok, Span can hit lefhanded pitching, that is not my point.
Nowhere man
November 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
Bobby you are sad fellow indeed. I grew up in some tough times and race has always been a part of the picture. Whether good or bad.
Nowhere man
November 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
Bobby you are sad fellow indeed. I grew up in some tough times and race has always been a part of the picture. Whether good or bad.
old man
November 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
I’m still wrapping my head around the Bill James OPS projections for BJ and Bourn–765 versus 707.
James knows more about baseball in his sphincter than I know in my whole body. I wonder if some people don’t start to wonder about Bourn’s offensive projections next year and beyond, and if Boras really pushes his negotiations into next year, maybe Bourn will get a big dose of disappointment, aka, free agent remorse.
old man
November 28th, 2012
9:33 pm
If I’m KC, I want to deal Gordon and bring up Myers to play for cheap. There is so much hype about Myers, the fans would be OK with Gordon going if they saw it making room for Myers.
Gordon is a real under the radar sort of talent. Partly because of where he plays he gets very little media exposure. I think his contract calls for 6.5, 10.5, 12.5. If we can stomach that much salary we need to look at him very hard as a trade target.
Heath
November 28th, 2012
9:33 pm
Span can hit lefties… and well. That is the point.
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
9:34 pm
They even both double post to a “T”.
Nowhere man
November 28th, 2012
9:36 pm
A big signing like this and no comments from Nolie??
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
Id be real cautious about giving Mac a deal like BJ’s…and Im sure an AL team could top that.
Nowhere man
November 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
Bobby aka Lentz think whatever makes you happy.
old man
November 28th, 2012
9:39 pm
Race Card:
Look, I agree with you up to a point. I just think it’s icing on the cake. I don’t think they were looking at two guys who were grading out the same, and they went with the black guy. I think, rightly or wrongly, Upton was they guy they wanted on a purely baseball basis, even if he was blue.
I think it is a great thing that Heyward and BJ are playing in my hometown where there is a large A-A population. I don’t want a lilly white team playing here to be honest. But this was purely a baseball decision. Again, two guys grading out totally equal at the same price, maybe it plays a role, but that is a very rare situation I would think, and NOT the situation the Braves faced.
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
9:39 pm
Speaking of nolie… where’s he been? I don’t think I’ve seen his posts in 2-3 days, now. Hope he’s OK.
brian
November 28th, 2012
9:40 pm
we absolutely need to look at Gordon as a possible trade target. The salary I think we can swallow. The cost of prospects of ML pitching will likely be what is prohibitve
brian
November 28th, 2012
9:41 pm
nolie is pouting as I am about our team’s lackluster performance in the ACC/Big X Challenge.
old man
November 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
Race Card:
By the way, Gordon is white. Is it OK if we trade for him? At this point, I’m not quite sure.
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
Bobby aka Lentz think whatever makes you happy. — Nowhere man
If I became any happier, I’d probably have to be doing something illegal.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
We gained a RH batter this year… no problem adding a lefty for the other spot
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 28th, 2012
9:45 pm
Nolie been gone for 5-6 days it seems… hope he’s alright. I think he was just displeased that the Braves were couting BJ. He’s less a fan of his than I am.
Nowhere man
November 28th, 2012
9:47 pm
A good season from BJ and Uggla will cure a lot of things.
David O'Brien
November 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
Braves expected to introduce Upton at an afternoon press conference tomorrow at Turner Field.
Nowhere man
November 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
Add a good leadoff man without having to give any pitching would be great.
old man
November 28th, 2012
9:52 pm
Brian:
The only reason I hold out hope on Gordon is that KC would be unloading salary and keeping their “Jason Heyward” type player–Myers. So maybe they would actually want substantially less for Gordon versus Myers.
But dang, he sure looks like a perfect fit, except for being left handed. Gold Glove, lead off hitter, 879 and 822 ops the past 2 years. His L/R OPS split is about 700/825 for his career, which is not terrible.
BFChris28
November 28th, 2012
9:54 pm
Well, I will be at work during the press conference tomorrow, so I will watch it when I get home from work
Big Nick
November 28th, 2012
9:54 pm
Ichiro for LF… Race could factor into this too!
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
9:55 pm
Nolie been gone for 5-6 days it seems… hope he’s alright. I think he was just displeased that the Braves were courting BJ. He’s less a fan of his than I am. — TOBF
I hope you’re right, but I seriously doubt it. I think it would take a hell of a lot more than that to keep nolie from posting.
He puts up with Vales & Dentz and their 200 different names per blog… trying to make a joke of this place.
I doubt the Braves chasing Upton would do it.
5-6 days? Man, something IS wrong, then.
phil
November 28th, 2012
9:55 pm
Sigh….
phil
November 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
Crap. I noticed nolie hadn’t been around. No word at all, huh?
Nowhere man
November 28th, 2012
10:04 pm
Maybe Sneaky Pete will come by with some info on Nolie.
It is good to see Brava back she was missed.
This would be a very dull place indeed if everyone came on here with the same opinions.
brian
November 28th, 2012
10:06 pm
agree – I would love Gordon
BFChris28
November 28th, 2012
10:06 pm
Although, I do like BJ Upton’s signing with Braves, I must
at a comment someone posted on the MLBTradeRumors comments page …
URI Food Answers • 2 hours ago
Most expensive BJ ever.
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
That’s funny, BFChris… just hope the Braves don’t end up, screwed!
ncgary
November 28th, 2012
10:17 pm
dont know for sure but i imagine nolie has just been busy with thanksgiving and other family functions. positive thinking makes the world go round
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
10:17 pm
Nolie been gone for 5-6 days it seems… hope he’s alright. I think he was just displeased that the Braves were couting BJ. He’s less a fan of his than I am.
ncgary
November 28th, 2012
10:20 pm
yeah i didnt care much for bj signing either but gotta hope for the best now, boy that upton is due for a super year
Bobby H
November 28th, 2012
10:22 pm
I have no idea how that got up there (10:17) I posted that AND my reply a little while, ago.
Very bizarre, indeed.