Man, reading all these comments from “Braves” fans makes me embarrased to be a Braves fan…I had no idea we had so many qualified Major League ready scouts and GM’s trolling the AJC’s comments. Not to mention the board certified Doctors and Medical examiners, passing their theories on drug addiction and severe problems…… If most of you people put as much energy into Cheering for our team as you do complaining about it, that Douche Philly Phanatic wouldn’t be right.. Except about the best sports town crap. Philly fans are horrible. Makes me wonder if he has been to an Eagles or Sixers game lately. He can get great seats there too. Anytime….
Amber Girl…..In a nutshell, the rule #5 draft lets perennial minor leaguers a chance to change organizations for a very low cost to the drafting team. for example, the Braves need a catcher for 2013 at AA. The have nobody ready in their organization to fill that spot next season. They select a non-protected,National Association player contract from a Baltimore class A affiliate for $5,000. (you must always draft upward not lateral) That National Association contract is then assigned to the Braves AA affiliate. He must play there all season or at an above classification or be returned to the original team.(National Association teams also can protect a limited amount of contracts). Hope this helps?
Ken Stallings…….one last point about your idea of a 50 man roster. #1 it would cost the ML team additionl salary needlessly. #2 Lets say you have 3 real good prospects @ your A affiliats that are maxed out on service time. Maybe they were signed very young or developed late in their career, both of which happens alot. You just assign their National Association contracts to your AAA team. Thus peventing them (99.9% of the time) from the rule #5 ML draft round. End of problem! No ML team can afford to have a player(s) on their 25 man roster that will never play that season. All players need to play to get better Chances are that if he sits a whole season on a ML bench he will no longer be a propect that next season.
Amber Girl….. I may have mis-typed about National Asociation teams being able to protect a limited number of contracts. I believe that rule is off the books. There was a time, in the 1950’s and prior to any rule # 5 draft, that National Association teams could protect a limited number of players. Owners had players that were crowd favorites. They wanted them in their city to help draw large crowds. It was not uncommon for these favorite players to refuse promotion to the Big Leagues. It was a matter of $. These guys, if promoted, would lose 4 to 5 times their AAA salary.
AmberGirl…..By salary, I must alo include the benifit of being a ‘big fish’ in’a little pond’. Non-taxable income of many types were the spoils of a crowd favorite. For one small example; After hitting a game winning HR or other type of big play, a player would, after crossing home plate or after the game, circle the chicken wire to receive $1.00, $5.00 o $10.00 bills pushed through the holes in the wire Depending on the crowd, it could be hundreds of $. You can’t get that kind of money in the Big Leagues. Many times this chicken wire $ was more than a months salary in the ML’s
Amber Girl……I think Wren has done a good job in spite of his short leash from Liberty. He has all winter and thru Spring Traing to make his moves. Patience is a virtue when you are p ortRemember, measure twice, cut once!
LIKE MOST I HAVE BEEN A BRAVES FAN FOR MORE YEARS THAN I CARE TO THINK ABOUT.I AGREE WITH THE OTHER FANS THAT WE CAN NOT AFFORD ANOTHER UGGLA. HAS UGGLA BEEN WORTH THE PRICE? N–O–. SO I SAY LOOK ELSEWHERE FOR A CENTER FEILDER. I DONT THINK UPTON IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR ATLANTA ESPECIALLY AT THE PRICE BEING RUMORED.
LIKE MOST I HAVE BEEN A BRAVES FAN FOR MORE YEARS THAN I CARE TO THINK ABOUT.I AGREE WITH THE OTHER FANS THAT WE CAN NOT AFFORD ANOTHER UGGLA. HAS UGGLA BEEN WORTH THE PRICE? N–O–. SO I SAY LOOK ELSEWHERE FOR A CENTER FEILDER. I DONT THINK UPTON IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR ATLANTA ESPECIALLY AT THE PRICE BEING RUMORED.
Ken Stallings……when you make outragious statements w/ no basis in fact you should expect a respone. I said you had no clue. If you consider that an attack on you, you may be a little thin skinned, but I am sorry it bothered you. My next 2 posts tried to explain, in detail, how the rule #5 draft works and how your opinion was missing the mark. There was no attack on you in those posts by me. If you have more questions, just ask me and I will try and explain to the best of my ability.
Greg Walker fixed Heyward (aka Hey Boy,not the Say Hey Kid yet!) so why can’t he throw Upton some Hershey Bars so he will have more energy to swing at the 3rd strike then he will be just like the Bourn loser who would smile after he struck out(also would smile after he was thrown out…like he didn’t give 2 shirts)!Hopefully he won’t swing at 3 bad pitches like Fuggly does!
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Strikeoutlookin.com
November 24th, 2012
12:54 am
Man, reading all these comments from “Braves” fans makes me embarrased to be a Braves fan…I had no idea we had so many qualified Major League ready scouts and GM’s trolling the AJC’s comments. Not to mention the board certified Doctors and Medical examiners, passing their theories on drug addiction and severe problems…… If most of you people put as much energy into Cheering for our team as you do complaining about it, that Douche Philly Phanatic wouldn’t be right.. Except about the best sports town crap. Philly fans are horrible. Makes me wonder if he has been to an Eagles or Sixers game lately. He can get great seats there too. Anytime….
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Paddy
November 24th, 2012
7:46 am
Amber Girl…..In a nutshell, the rule #5 draft lets perennial minor leaguers a chance to change organizations for a very low cost to the drafting team. for example, the Braves need a catcher for 2013 at AA. The have nobody ready in their organization to fill that spot next season. They select a non-protected,National Association player contract from a Baltimore class A affiliate for $5,000. (you must always draft upward not lateral) That National Association contract is then assigned to the Braves AA affiliate. He must play there all season or at an above classification or be returned to the original team.(National Association teams also can protect a limited amount of contracts). Hope this helps?
Paddy
November 24th, 2012
8:14 am
Ken Stallings…….one last point about your idea of a 50 man roster. #1 it would cost the ML team additionl salary needlessly. #2 Lets say you have 3 real good prospects @ your A affiliats that are maxed out on service time. Maybe they were signed very young or developed late in their career, both of which happens alot. You just assign their National Association contracts to your AAA team. Thus peventing them (99.9% of the time) from the rule #5 ML draft round. End of problem! No ML team can afford to have a player(s) on their 25 man roster that will never play that season. All players need to play to get better Chances are that if he sits a whole season on a ML bench he will no longer be a propect that next season.
Paddy
November 24th, 2012
9:14 am
Amber Girl….. I may have mis-typed about National Asociation teams being able to protect a limited number of contracts. I believe that rule is off the books. There was a time, in the 1950’s and prior to any rule # 5 draft, that National Association teams could protect a limited number of players. Owners had players that were crowd favorites. They wanted them in their city to help draw large crowds. It was not uncommon for these favorite players to refuse promotion to the Big Leagues. It was a matter of $. These guys, if promoted, would lose 4 to 5 times their AAA salary.
Paddy
November 24th, 2012
9:38 am
AmberGirl…..By salary, I must alo include the benifit of being a ‘big fish’ in’a little pond’. Non-taxable income of many types were the spoils of a crowd favorite. For one small example; After hitting a game winning HR or other type of big play, a player would, after crossing home plate or after the game, circle the chicken wire to receive $1.00, $5.00 o $10.00 bills pushed through the holes in the wire Depending on the crowd, it could be hundreds of $. You can’t get that kind of money in the Big Leagues. Many times this chicken wire $ was more than a months salary in the ML’s
Amber Girl
November 24th, 2012
10:35 am
Thanks Paddy. Please get WREN off his behind and do something
Paddy
November 24th, 2012
10:46 am
Amber Girl……I think Wren has done a good job in spite of his short leash from Liberty. He has all winter and thru Spring Traing to make his moves. Patience is a virtue when you are p ortRemember, measure twice, cut once!
Paddy
November 24th, 2012
10:48 am
when you are a GM of any sport. Have no idea what just happened.
74bravesjersey
November 24th, 2012
10:57 am
@paddy; Is Gattis listed on the 40 – man roster as well? Just making sure.
Amber Girl
November 24th, 2012
5:20 pm
OK Paddy I feel if he waits too long. Everybody will be gone.
mace224
November 25th, 2012
1:57 am
Schafer to Colorado. They legalized it there.
Ken Stallings
November 25th, 2012
9:38 pm
Paddy, I suggest that next time you ask how something can work in a certain way that you avoid insulting the person you are asking the question of!
For the record, I answered your question in the post I made that you immediately proceeded to personally attack.
david thompson
November 26th, 2012
10:23 am
LIKE MOST I HAVE BEEN A BRAVES FAN FOR MORE YEARS THAN I CARE TO THINK ABOUT.I AGREE WITH THE OTHER FANS THAT WE CAN NOT AFFORD ANOTHER UGGLA. HAS UGGLA BEEN WORTH THE PRICE? N–O–. SO I SAY LOOK ELSEWHERE FOR A CENTER FEILDER. I DONT THINK UPTON IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR ATLANTA ESPECIALLY AT THE PRICE BEING RUMORED.
david thompson
November 26th, 2012
10:23 am
LIKE MOST I HAVE BEEN A BRAVES FAN FOR MORE YEARS THAN I CARE TO THINK ABOUT.I AGREE WITH THE OTHER FANS THAT WE CAN NOT AFFORD ANOTHER UGGLA. HAS UGGLA BEEN WORTH THE PRICE? N–O–. SO I SAY LOOK ELSEWHERE FOR A CENTER FEILDER. I DONT THINK UPTON IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR ATLANTA ESPECIALLY AT THE PRICE BEING RUMORED.
Paddy
November 27th, 2012
11:54 am
Ken Stallings……when you make outragious statements w/ no basis in fact you should expect a respone. I said you had no clue. If you consider that an attack on you, you may be a little thin skinned, but I am sorry it bothered you. My next 2 posts tried to explain, in detail, how the rule #5 draft works and how your opinion was missing the mark. There was no attack on you in those posts by me. If you have more questions, just ask me and I will try and explain to the best of my ability.
Hershey Walker
December 1st, 2012
12:04 pm
Greg Walker fixed Heyward (aka Hey Boy,not the Say Hey Kid yet!) so why can’t he throw Upton some Hershey Bars so he will have more energy to swing at the 3rd strike then he will be just like the Bourn loser who would smile after he struck out(also would smile after he was thrown out…like he didn’t give 2 shirts)!Hopefully he won’t swing at 3 bad pitches like Fuggly does!