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Bobby H
November 19th, 2012
11:13 pm
I mentioned it that day but I will say again: Stanton changed his name the same day it was announced that Snooki was pregnant. — Hillbilly
I remember that day, Hillbilly. No one was more relieved than I…
brian
November 19th, 2012
11:13 pm
1st full season in the minors at age 18, Stanton led the minors in HRs (I think he had 39)
BravesFanSince80s
November 19th, 2012
11:21 pm
NOBODY gains 30 pounds of all muscle by weight lifting alone when talking baseball-related workouts…
Mark
November 19th, 2012
11:21 pm
Brian
Some high school guys use PEDs.
Just look at the guy. How can you not think he is on roids?
BravesFanSince80s
November 19th, 2012
11:23 pm
you MIGHT gain 15-20 pounds if you work really hard at it, but not 30, now way, no how, uh uh…
yeah uh huh
November 19th, 2012
11:26 pm
signing this Upton will open the door for getting the other one as both want to play together
brian
November 19th, 2012
11:35 pm
i am a glass half full guy Mark -
Kris
November 19th, 2012
11:35 pm
BJ Upton? Really? It’s all well and good to have one pig on your team (Uggla), but do we need to have two? We need guys that get on base not another all or nothing masher. I really hope Philly or someone else shows BJ the money because we don’t need him. I’d rather have a light hitting center fielder that plays solid defense and gets on base then Dan Uggla redux. Does FW even look at OBP?
With Upton in the line-up we’ll be the same team we always are – just sitting around waiting for the 3-run HR with virtually no chance of working pitchers and scrapping some runs together. Having one Uggla is frustrating at times, but usually it’s all good if you have a line-up of guys who get on base, but we don’t have that. Please take the money from someone else BJ – I’m sure you’re a nice guy and all, but we don’t need you in Atlanta!
Mark
November 19th, 2012
11:46 pm
glass half full guys have made a lot of con artists rich.
Are you one of those that still think Uggla is gonna break out soon?
You can’t ignore the obvious.
ncgary
November 19th, 2012
11:46 pm
personally i dont think bj upton is the solution
before we go that route id as soon see schaefer and constanza split time there
ncgary
November 19th, 2012
11:48 pm
not that i want that as a solution either but give me a break bj upton isnt the solution for 1 year much less 5 yrs
JNick
November 19th, 2012
11:49 pm
Toronto gave Milk-man 2 yrs/$16mil? WTF?
Bobby H
November 19th, 2012
11:50 pm
glass half full guys have made a lot of con artists rich. — Mark
And glass half empty guys have made a lot of divorce attorneys rich. So, what’s your point?
ncgary
November 19th, 2012
11:51 pm
bring back the road runner and claudell washington
youd get better production from them in their 70’s than you will upton
JNick
November 19th, 2012
11:52 pm
Over the last 3 years, Upton faced LHP 25.8% of the time – so we were all wrong…not 10% and not 38%…lol.
JNick
November 19th, 2012
11:53 pm
Justin Upton, that is…
jeffrey d
November 19th, 2012
11:55 pm
Are you one of those that still think Uggla is gonna break out soon?
You can’t ignore the obvious.
I mean, it’s almost as if Dan Uggla hasn’t proven himself to be one of, if not the, top offensive second basemen over the past 7 years.
But no, he struggled last season so that means he’s the worst player in the world who kicks puppies in his free time.
Mark
November 19th, 2012
11:56 pm
Bobby
Simply that if you suspect something to be true you can just ignore it and hope it isn’t. If a guy looks like Bonds, McGuire or Canseco then chances are real good he is doing the same thing they did in order to look that way.
brian
November 19th, 2012
11:56 pm
it is not obvious that Stanton uses PEDs.
I don’t think anybody reading the blog regularly over the past year would classify me as someone who thought Uggla hung the moon and would break out of it any day now. Far from it
Mark
November 19th, 2012
11:59 pm
Fair enough
Take care and good night all
BravesFanSince80s
November 19th, 2012
11:59 pm
WHOA, Bobby H, you just answered A TON of questions I had about you!
brian
November 20th, 2012
12:03 am
I do not think that BJ is the solution either. Maybe he will do better in the NL with a fresh start on a new team. Maybe so but I do not want to bet $75 million dollars on it either.
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:07 am
Simply that if you suspect something to be true you can just ignore it and hope it isn’t. If a guy looks like Bonds, McGuire or Canseco then chances are real good he is doing the same thing they did in order to look that way. — Mark
I can agree to that, but that doesn’t mean your glass is half empty or full all of the time. Just means you see suspect something that someone else doesn’t.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that seeing a certain point in differing ways doesn’t stamp a person for life as being one way or the other. (OK, I’m getting too philosophical, now)
the truth...
November 20th, 2012
12:07 am
I’m with you Brian………….not $75 million …………NOT
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
12:08 am
jeffrey d, keep it up man, you gain in idiocy on an almost dayly basis, stop with the Ugly Dan man-love for God’s sake!
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
12:09 am
daily*
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:09 am
*supposed to be OR between suspect/see*, dammit
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:18 am
jeffrey d, keep it up man, you gain in idiocy on an almost dayly basis, stop with the Ugly Dan man-love for God’s sake! — BravesFanSince80s
Don’t worry, jeffrey d. That’s just the LouVales/Earl-dude that’s giving you a hard time.
He’s had a busy night – already used over 100 names and we’re only through 5 pages!
There’s been only a handful of posters on this new blog… but there’s over 500 comments! When things are slow, he argues amongst himselves…
Kwajbraves
November 20th, 2012
12:22 am
I hope the Phils overpay him. We are probably sign Gomes and platoon him with Reed.
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
12:26 am
Bobby H, my name is Nathan Chapman, I live in Andrews, NC, you can look me up on facebook if you care, and I have not used another username at all, MORON…
Yunel's Frosted Tips
November 20th, 2012
12:27 am
If we gone load up on whiff machines……let’s bring back Frenchy and put him in left……
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2012
12:27 am
Don’t worry, jeffrey d. That’s just the LouVales/Earl-dude that’s giving you a hard time
Why would I worry? This dude has lost respect from anybody with any ability to reason since about his 3rd post.
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2012
12:30 am
You know what our problem is? We refuse to accept any middle ground. Everything’s black or white.
I’ll concede that Uggla has had some enormous rough patches since he’s come to Atlanta. And that at times he’s been unwatchable. But you also have to admit he’s had some huge stretches, and that his track record (5 straight seasons of 30+ homeruns until this year) has earned him the benefit of the doubt.
oooooooor you can just focus on the negative and be miserable with your life.
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:31 am
Bobby H, my name is Nathan Chapman, I live in Andrews, NC, you can look me up on facebook if you care, and I have not used another username at all, MORON… –BravesFanSince80s
Oh, don’t worry – I KNOW you live in NC… but the rest of it is all BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, but nice try, anyway. Actually, it wasn’t even a nice try… kinda weak, to be honest with you. But don’t give up… we like your efforts, here.
Venice Jim
November 20th, 2012
12:34 am
I think it’s best I just go to bed without commenting…
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
12:35 am
Sorry man, keep hacking if you want, but all those other folks were just that. I have not posted under another name. It’s a half-hour past midnight, perhaps folks just went to bed, hmmmmm?
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2012
12:35 am
But don’t give up… we like your efforts, here.
Dang it, Bobby!
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:37 am
I think it’s best I just go to bed without commenting…
You ALMOST had it, VJ
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:38 am
Sorry, jeffrey d, slow time of the year and all…
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
12:41 am
look, Bobby H and Jeffrey D, between my wife, my two toddler sons, and bath night, and sitting here building 2 different custom fly rods, I can ASSURE you that I have not been a troll on here logging in as several different people, GROW UP….
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:43 am
BravesFanSince80s
You mean you post the way you do…. on PURPOSE????
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
12:45 am
Bobby H=silly blog police, same question easily applies to you…
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2012
12:46 am
look, Bobby H and Jeffrey D, between my wife, my two toddler sons, and bath night, and sitting here building 2 different custom fly rods, I can ASSURE you that I have not been a troll on here logging in as several different people, GROW UP….
I never accused you of being more than 1 person, I just accused you of being annoying and deppresed.
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:46 am
My answer would be a confidant, YES!
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2012
12:47 am
depressed*
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:47 am
Except I should spell it correctly *confidEnt*
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:49 am
Between Lou & characters… and all of our spelling corrections – we’re on our way to a record-setting blog. Go Carroll!
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2012
12:49 am
Dangit, Bobby!
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2012
12:51 am
And by the way, if I had 2 toddler sons, and if I was up at 1 AM, I’d either be 1) tending to the infant sons, or 2) SLEEPING
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:52 am
Thank you, jeffrey d. That’s my first, double dangit, in one evening!
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
12:52 am
check out a mirror sometime jeffrey d
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
12:56 am
shows your ignorance man, IF you had them right? They’re asleep you dolt, I get as much work done as I can while THEY’RE ASLEEP…
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:57 am
check out a mirror sometime jeffrey d — BravesFanSince80s
If you don’t ask him, I will… what’s that supposed to mean?
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2012
12:58 am
I’m just saying….I’ve never heard people with ONE toddler say, “man, I’ve got so much extra time, I think I’ll go blog!”
But not perfect parent and perfect baseball analysist BravesFanSince80s
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
12:59 am
shows your ignorance man, IF you had them right? They’re asleep you dolt, I get as much work done as I can while THEY’RE ASLEEP… — BravesFanSince80’s
How much are you getting paid for this?
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2012
1:01 am
When one of his kids wakes up in the middle of the night, he just farts and the kid falls back asleep and learns basic arithmetic. If one of them needs a diaper changing he wiggles his nose and, BOOM……kid is suddenly potty trained and fluent in 3 romantic languages.
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
1:02 am
I get paid to build fly rods Bobby H, I clearly stated that, once again, grow up…
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
1:04 am
I get paid to build fly rods Bobby H, I clearly stated that, once again, grow up… — BravesFanSince80’s
Sorry, man, didn’t know you used a keyboard for that. That puzzles me, but I know you wouldn’t make anything up.
BravesFanInNashville
November 20th, 2012
1:05 am
This could be a strategy to make other teams including the Phillies believe they really are interested in Upton. This could lead the Phillies overpay him if they think they have competition. I can’t believe the Braves really have him as their #1 choice. Terrible OBP and high strikeouts with an attitude. What will he be like once he has his contract in hand?
MLB channel on XM said they think the Braves could be the team to land Hamilton and for less money than people think. His biggest offer might come from the Red Sox but he probably doesn’t want to go there because of the media and fan scrutiny. They said thought he might sign for 4 or 5 years tops and at under $20 Million per year probably $18 Million. If that is true I certainly would rather have Hamilton for 5 years $90 Million than Upton 5 years $75 Million. This is just the opinion of one network but it’s an interesting take. Seems just as likely he’ll get someone to offer him 5 years and $23 Million/yr. Can’t wait to see how this turns out.
In the past Wren has played his cards publicly and paid for it. T
Bobby H
November 20th, 2012
1:07 am
Now it’s my turn for a… Dang it! Gotta go, it’s been fun. I’ll leave the blog in your 3 capable hands. Have a good night, to all.
BravesFanInNashville
November 20th, 2012
1:08 am
Continuing the last post. Wren has paid for showing his hand publicly. I hope he’s learned from that and will keep his true intentions quite until he’s actually pulled the trigger. Nothing wrong with the element of surprise.
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2012
1:09 am
Dang it, Bobby!!
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
1:17 am
BFin N, I agree, I really HOPE it’s all smoke and mirrors for our sake which is what I told FRIENDS (despite the earlier comment towards my loneliness) this afternoon shortly after reading Carrol’s article. I think Wren is more interested in a less expensive CF like Fowler or Span or Cain or who knows…
WeBurn
November 20th, 2012
1:19 am
This is the ranking of who we should sign:
1. Josh Hamilton: He has the ability to carry a team and gives us a HUGE bat in the middle of our lineup.
2. B.J. Upton: Good power bat, just needs a change of scenery to really explode.
3. Angel Pagan: We need a leadoff hitter and I think he’s a better return on investment than…
4. Michael Bourn: Not worth 15+ a year, not after his strikeout issues.
Justin
November 20th, 2012
1:22 am
Spend Some money on Hamilton I Mean Why in the hell do they want another Uggla cuz thats what the dude is He is gona hit 20 25 HR Strikeout a ton rarely get on base thats not what this team needs.
JNick
November 20th, 2012
1:22 am
Anyway….
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
1:23 am
for the record, if you DONT have kids, and you’re trying to sound knowledgeble to someone who DOES have kids, you’re immediately recognizable as a dumbass, so just stop, ok?…
Paul Wall
November 20th, 2012
1:24 am
People shut up about fowler and Cody Ross they both suck!!!
Ken Stallings
November 20th, 2012
1:25 am
That was my thought about Josh Hamilton also. He’s an eastern NC kid and frankly he doesn’t want to be in the limelight. He’ll fit in nicely with the medium media market in Atlanta. I think that’s exactly why the Braves may be able to sign him, and I agree that he may be signable for something in the $18 million a year range for five years. I’d like to see the Braves put that contract offer on the table and see what happens. I think Hamilton would accept that offer from the Braves.
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
1:27 am
I will be shocked if it’s Upton. I think Wren is tryng to “pull” something…
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
1:30 am
I agree Ken. I think despite his issues, Hamilton is actually a good fit here…
BravesFanInNashville
November 20th, 2012
1:33 am
Ken Stallings…. From your lips to God’s ears. If Hamilton would do that I say sign him tonight before he changes his mind. As we know from Scott Boras’ success in the past it only takes ONE team to be willing to overpay someone to get a ridiculous contract done. Look at Zito, ARod and now even Pujol’s. There might be one team who wants him bad enough to bite at $23 to $25 million per year for 5 yrs. I hope it’s not the Braves if that’s the price. If he can be had for $20 Million or less and 5 years or less I think he’d be worth the risk. This is only because of his ability to carry a team for weeks and to sell tickets which translates into revenue to keep improving the team.
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
1:37 am
aside from staying healthy, I really don’t see Hamilton as much of a risk for 5 yrs in Atl…
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
1:39 am
I think it makes far more sense to pay Hamilton 20-22 million/yr for 5 yrs, than to pay Upton 15 million/yr for 5 yrs…
BravesFanInNashville
November 20th, 2012
1:48 am
BravesFanSince80’s…. I agree 5 years seems reasonable for the kind of player he is. It would be great to sign him to play LF (Less wear and tear) and trade for Span. To play CF and lead off. Prado could play LF when Josh needs a day off and Fransisco could play 3B and give us a power bat in the lineup so there would’t be a big drop off.
1.) Span – CF
2.) Prado – 3B
3.) Heyward – RF
4.) Hamilton – LF
5.) Uggla – 2B
6.) Freeman-1B
7.) McCann – C
8.) Simmons – SS
Pretty good line-up. Still think the Braves will make a play to trade McCann this winter. Just a hunch but I think we’ll see an attempt before spring training. Imagine if we got rid of his salary and picked up a prospect and signed Russell Martin. Now we’d have another RH bat in the line-up and we’d be more balanced.
No , no and no to BJ Upton. We don’t need another strikeout every game from a RH batter.
Ward
November 20th, 2012
2:06 am
Hello everyone! I say yes to B.J. Upton, and will support Wren. on B.J. Upton. He is exactly the sort we need, and he would be great in line – up.
Ward
November 20th, 2012
2:07 am
Also, hope Braves can get Cody Ross too!
Ward
November 20th, 2012
2:10 am
Kinda of wonder where all this negativity comes from? Everbody else is looking at B.J. Upton, but the negativers on the blog. Sounds about right, and all in all nothing will make them happy.
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
2:13 am
I agree with all of that, no to Upton, Hamilton IF we can get him, Span, Fowler, Cain, Pagan, any of those work in CF for me, etc…..
BravesFanSince80s
November 20th, 2012
2:17 am
Ward, Upton gets on base less than Ugly Dan, why is this something we need?
Ward
November 20th, 2012
2:27 am
Really !!!!!!!! Try telling some one else. Same old story by you guys. It’s not going to change what I think!
Ward
November 20th, 2012
2:29 am
Anyways you have the right to your opinions, but It’s the same old story to me. Have a good one! Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Nowhere man
November 20th, 2012
2:41 am
The true story of Stanton’s name.
His mother really liked Italian names, so he was named Giancarlo. When he first started school none of his classmates could pronounce his name so they started calling him Mike at school. The family continued to call him Giancarlo and then he decided he wanted everyone to call him Giancarlo again.
Ward
November 20th, 2012
2:43 am
I like the other guys too, but I like B.J. Upton, and Cody Ross better. Wren, should only go after them unless he can’t get B.J. Upton, or Cody Ross. Peace Out! have a good one!
JNick
November 20th, 2012
3:09 am
If Wren trades for Fowler, I’m abandoning this team
Could be entertaining BJ just to drive the price up on Philly. Love to see them overspend….
Around The Horn
November 20th, 2012
4:09 am
ALL THOSE STRIKEOUTS
What happened to signing high average contact hitters? But Wren continues to be power hungry.
It’s bad enough having to watch Uggla strikeout relentlessly. And now potentially Upton as well.
It just doesn’t make good sense.
Just Saying..
November 20th, 2012
4:16 am
Been living in Tampa Bay area since retired from Atlanta career in 2003, avid Rays fan since. Teammates seem to like/tolerate him, fans not so much. Andruw Jones with a worse attitude. Longoria got in his grill after a no hustle outfield play, Maddon has pulled him for same. One of those guys with worlds of talent, content to cruise through life, for millions.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 20th, 2012
5:46 am
Looks like I missed some entertainment last night…. dangit!!!!
BFS80… Still harping on the name change? Grow up, dude. Hope you never change your name, Mr. Nathan Chapman.
I do not believe that Giancarlo is on roids. Nothing makes me believe that he is, no extraordinary growth or power surges.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 20th, 2012
5:52 am
Im one of the positive ones Ward and i’m saying no to Upton… it’s for the best.
a fan
November 20th, 2012
6:55 am
As I’ve said many times I live in the Tampa area and saw Upton every night, we don’t want him!
Chipper Jones
November 20th, 2012
7:01 am
Dan Uggla SUCKS !
Couch Tater
November 20th, 2012
7:04 am
ncgary – FYI
http://www.kevinturnerfoundation.org/
Peter
November 20th, 2012
7:06 am
I’ll concede that Uggla has had some enormous rough patches since he’s come to Atlanta. And that at times he’s been unwatchable. But you also have to admit he’s had some huge stretches, and that his track record (5 straight seasons of 30+ homeruns until this year) has earned him the benefit of the doubt.
oooooooor you can just focus on the negative and be miserable with your life
Well to all that……… Uggla is at the end of his career……. he has been miserable to watch at times, a free out in the line up………and he is way over paid for his production……where is he batting ? 6th 7th 8th at times ?
You pay a guy in his position the most money in the majors to bat in those spots ?
Ok Wren is your savior ! He is the guy making a Brave’s fan life miserable…… Also please tell me who wanted to come to Atlanta and play with Chipper ?
Nativebird
November 20th, 2012
7:17 am
If your not willing to “overpay” for players you are never going to compete for a championship…..and not talking about a “division championship” either.
jeffrey d
November 20th, 2012
7:40 am
He is the guy making a Brave’s fan life miserable
If your reasoning is because Atlanta hasn’t won a World Series, then you can say that 29 GMs should be fired every year.
I’m really not sure how you can fault Wren for trading a utility player for Dan Uggla without using hindsight. And I don’t think he’s at the “end of his career” at 32.
Jeff R
November 20th, 2012
7:43 am
Josh Hamilton – injury prone and lots of personal baggage. I wouldn’t pay – much less overpay – for the guy.
B J Upton – Dan Uggla with speed who hasn’t Uggla’s ability to walk (though he matches Uggla in the strikeout department). I wouldn’t pay – much less overpay – for him. 5/75 is over-payment for Upton.
ncgary
November 20th, 2012
7:44 am
thanks tater
pulling it up now
BraveDan
November 20th, 2012
7:55 am
Wow, it looks like the old blog was entertaining while we slept. lol
Escaped from Email Purgatory
November 20th, 2012
8:03 am
Amazing the Liberty Media Braves can’t part with the bucks to retain a guy who is:
– the best leadoff hitter since Rafael Furcal
– the best defensive center fielder since Andruw Jones
– one of the most productive offensive players in the line up.
Clearly, Bourn fills two critical roles. Seems he’s the most indispensable every day player on the roster.
What are these cheapskates going to do when it’s time for all the talented young pitchers to get paid?
T J Lambert
November 20th, 2012
8:09 am
Fowler always seems to play well against Atlanta. He would be my pick. Remember Atlanta appears to be the place that hitters find their slump when acquired. Nate and Dan being the poster childen.