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Murph
November 13th, 2012
3:16 pm
Poor choice, Murph. No offense meant.
Did I mention that you’ve become a valued member of the blog to me?
No offense taken. And much appreciated.
I just come on here and post stuff that entertains me. No idea why I’ve managed to be “accepted” by the other regulars who clearly know more about the sport than I do… probably because I don’t pretend to know more about the sport than they do. A good deer story never hurts, either.
richbrave
November 13th, 2012
3:17 pm
Oh and thanks for defining my role in life, and on this blog. I’ll be sure to heed your advice.
cricket
November 13th, 2012
3:18 pm
I did no worming, thank you very much….Murph
i can vouch for that, he didn’t have to worm. he gets what he wants, all he has to do is mention the 4-year old.
nolie
November 13th, 2012
3:20 pm
we need a big deal, tempers are flaring and we are turning cannibalistic with frustration….
c’mon Frankie, at least a new BU catcher.. a good one please
phil
November 13th, 2012
3:20 pm
Astral
November 13th, 2012
3:08 pm
phil you are constantly ripping the folks on this blog, you just don’t do it by specific name , you use a more passive-aggressive manner indicating that most regulars are mean to newbies., but you damn sure are insulting.
*************
You damn sure are full of it…
richbrave
November 13th, 2012
3:21 pm
Are you upset with me because i haven’t interacted with you in the past Half Empty? I apologize for being remiss. Be certain I will try to remedy that oversight of mine.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
3:21 pm
I’d still take Upton over Willingham, BJ, Ross etc… only guy I’d even consider taking instead of him is Pence, because he may be easier to acquire. But I am sure of this. Justin will be a total beast next year, wherever he plays. I hope it’s here.
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
3:22 pm
Which is the point he was making. I don’t remember seeing anything in the initial post about “value”.
In my old age speaking with my barber I remarked that I was disappointed my hair had grown thin and sparse to which he responded, “Your shoes look fantastic!”
I am thus left with three possible reasons for his remark: he is a fool, or he is a megalomaniac believing he is responsible for the state of my scalp, or he has a shoe fetish he wishes to shoehorn into any and every conversation.
After watching how my comments juxtaposing Heyward and Stanton’s offensive lines, I can only assume for many it is a matter of “all of the above.”
Venice Jim
November 13th, 2012
3:22 pm
At least mediocre and a half…
nolie
November 13th, 2012
3:23 pm
you do that a lot phil, you make it sound a crime to be a regular
folks who constantly “kid” about the same thing usually aren’t really kidding
Murph
November 13th, 2012
3:23 pm
i can vouch for that, he didn’t have to worm. he gets what he wants, all he has to do is mention the 4-year old.
It’s crazy to think that the 4 year old was only the 2 year old when I first came here… and was so much more… controllable… back then.
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
3:23 pm
bacon, evil? that man is backwards.
Bacon is a f’n staple…. With pancakes, eggs, grits, ect… I wonder what he had for lunch, probably some leaves.
Me?
Fried chicken, blackeyed peas, butter beans, home style mashed potatoes, cornbread and a freakin’ coke
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
3:23 pm
I had to be called Samantha and a poor fan because of a moniker… I made it. Don’t need widespread respect, though I won’t dismiss it either. I just want to be as smart as y’all one day (while still holding onto my crazy ideas!)
nolie
November 13th, 2012
3:25 pm
Bat is obviously a good ol’ Southern boy, some good vittles there
Venice Jim
November 13th, 2012
3:26 pm
My comment totally lost context due to blog slowness, so to recap:
at least a new BU catcher.. a good one please
At least mediocre and a half…
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
3:26 pm
Fried chicken, blackeyed peas, butter beans, home style mashed potatoes, cornbread and a freakin’ coke
I could use some chocolate chip pancakes with some friggin whipped cream.
Murph
November 13th, 2012
3:26 pm
Fried chicken, blackeyed peas, butter beans, home style mashed potatoes, cornbread and a freakin’ coke
I ate a bag of Famous Amos cookies.
Now I’m hungry.
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
3:26 pm
No idea why I’ve managed to be “accepted” by the other regulars who clearly know more about the sport than I do
Because you deliver a good chunk of content that’s just worth reading. The forum has gotten too far away from the notion that this isn’t a baseball blog, but rather a blog with a unifying theme of baseball. Too many folks here want to discuss nothing but baseball. And, frankly, the baseball discussion is one of the lesser reasons I haunt this place. It’s a much better experience when humor and music and BBQ and banana pudding take up a goodly chunk of the space. We don’t have as much of that non-baseball stuff as once we did.
phil
November 13th, 2012
3:26 pm
nolie, give it a rest, please…go single someone else out for your analysis.
Murph, you’re just naturally funny. Some of you guys just are. Good stuff.
cricket
November 13th, 2012
3:27 pm
It’s crazy to think that the 4 year old was only the 2 year old when I first came here… and was so much more… controllable… back then.
they lose diapers, you lose control
phil
November 13th, 2012
3:28 pm
Attaboy, Bat! With a side serving of lard….
Murph
November 13th, 2012
3:29 pm
I had to be called Samantha and a poor fan because of a moniker… I made it.
The jury is still out on the whole “Samantha” thing… don’t think you’ve escaped that one.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
3:29 pm
Wow! Our bench is going away for 2013
And we’re gonna start it off with a poor hitting catcher like Boscan and Janish. Fun fun.
nolie
November 13th, 2012
3:29 pm
too true scoots, plus its harder to get hostile over banana puddin’…..
cricket
November 13th, 2012
3:30 pm
and a freakin’ coke
is it like “Pepsi Special”?
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
3:31 pm
Fried chicken, blackeyed peas, butter beans, home style mashed potatoes, cornbread and a freakin’ coke
Would it take an MRI to see, or could you actually feel the arteries constricting?
That, my boy, is some good eats right there.
raleighbravefan
November 13th, 2012
3:32 pm
phil – I frequently disagree with you…and I am naturally turned off by negatism. That said, there IS a place here for all opinions (although not so much for the confrontational beligerence of some). So carry on, my friend, and take the grousing in stride.
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
3:32 pm
plus its harder to get hostile over banana puddin’
Maybe that’s what kept it mostly civil here for so long, LOL.
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
3:32 pm
We don’t have as much of that non-baseball stuff as once we did.
It is due to the inability for some to fathom unquantifiable measures of preference. If no deeply dug value can be extracted, it apparently isn’t worth discussing. And hence a demand to return to the norm. Insults tossed on those who disagree with “the data” mixed in with a constant white-noise hum of blog trollers spewing sheer stupidity.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
3:32 pm
freakin’ coke
Schafer can get you some… $50 a gram
phil
November 13th, 2012
3:32 pm
Better than the spinach quiche thing i had for lunch…
Bossmann45
November 13th, 2012
3:33 pm
I believe the answer to all of our problems lies with one team. Minnesota has Span, Willingham, and Doumit and in need of pitching. We could easily give them a package of talent that will leave us still in good shape and fill all of our needs for at least three seasons for around ten million. This would also allow us to use extra funds to lock up our future stars. To get this deal done we could ship Hanson, Costanza, Varvarro, two second tier pitching prospects (Pick any two!)
nolie
November 13th, 2012
3:33 pm
give it a rest yourself phil…please. you won’t see anything from me about it when you don’t do it all the time. If you can surely I can, right?
phil
November 13th, 2012
3:34 pm
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
3:32 pm
We don’t have as much of that non-baseball stuff as once we did.
It is due to the inability for some to fathom unquantifiable measures of preference. If no deeply dug value can be extracted, it apparently isn’t worth discussing. And hence a demand to return to the norm. Insults tossed on those who disagree with “the data” mixed in with a constant white-noise hum of blog trollers spewing sheer stupidity.
************
That’s pretty well put….I think.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
3:36 pm
Fried chicken, blackeyed peas, butter beans, home style mashed potatoes, cornbread and a freakin’ coke
Yum, meh, eww, eww, meh, good. Who likes butter beans and mashed potatoes (with gravy I assume?)
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
3:37 pm
TennPaul goes eloquent at 3:32.
Lew
November 13th, 2012
3:37 pm
TheOnlyBourjosFan – A much more accurate appellation.
Murph
November 13th, 2012
3:38 pm
This is by far the best blog/forum I’ve ever been a part of. Even when I have been/am in nolie’s crosshairs, it’s still the best place I’ve found to chit chat and jibber jabber about stuff that matters to me… baseball, bbq, music, strippers, pie, deer, kids, sopapillas, hair loss, etc.
You just can’t find all that stuff, together, anywhere else on the interweb.
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
3:38 pm
Bat is obviously a good ol’ Southern boy, some good vittles there
Through and through, nolie. Yeah damn good lunch.
cricket
November 13th, 2012
3:39 pm
TheOnlyBourjosFan – A much more accurate appellation.
what about his mother?
nolie
November 13th, 2012
3:39 pm
I like all them things but when served all together the carbs could raise my blood sugar level high enough to need a whole bottle of insulin…..
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
3:39 pm
Yum, meh, eww, eww, meh, good. Who likes butter beans and mashed potatoes (with gravy I assume?)
One does not progress in life by casting aspersions on another man’s culinary decisions. Not in a polite society.
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
3:41 pm
Those compensation choices will come in reverse order of the 2012 major league standings. The Yankees have three compensation free agents, which means they could have a record four first-round selections if they all leave New York. If the Yankees have multiple comp picks, they would come in succession.
The eight potential compensation free agents, listed in the order in which their former clubs’ draft picks would fall at the end of the first round:
Cardinals: Kyle Lohse, rhp
Rays: B.J. Upton, of
Rangers: Josh Hamilton, of
Braves: Michael Bourn, of
Yankees: Hiroki Kuroda, rhp; Rafael Soriano, rhp; Nick Swisher, of
Nationals: Adam LaRoche, 1b
- Baseball America
raleighbravefan
November 13th, 2012
3:42 pm
What’s the WAR for good BBQ? Or the BABiP? And who cares?
phil
November 13th, 2012
3:42 pm
nolie
November 13th, 2012
3:33 pm
give it a rest yourself phil…please. you won’t see anything from me about it when you don’t do it all the time. If you can surely I can, right?
************
I’m not even exactly sure what it is this time. Seemingly always something I do wrong where you’re concerned. I’ve had enough.
Whomever the Astral person was, whatever I was commenting on before that, I did it for a reason and not just to irritate you, which was never, ever the intent and never is.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
3:42 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1406925-mlb-offseason-who-is-on-the-atlanta-braves-wish-list
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
3:42 pm
Attaboy, Bat! With a side serving of lard….
It’s okay, phil. I’m actually trying to gain some weight, even so that’s not a regular lunch for me. I did go for a walk on the beach after. Damn near had it to myself, one old guy fishing, a couple of people walking here and there. Beautiful day, a little chilly, calm seas………
Bayou Brave
November 13th, 2012
3:42 pm
David O’Brien @ 2:05PM
How many major league players totaled more homers and/or RBIs over the past two seasons than Willingham? Nevermind how many did it while playing half a season in a pitchers’ park, just how many did it, period?
Out of curiosity I looked it up…
Only 5 MLB players have totaled more homeruns AND RBIs in the last two years:
M. Cabrera [77 & 244]
P. Fielder [68 & 228]
C. Granderson [84 & 225]
R. Braun [74 & 223]
J. Hamilton [68 & 222]
J. Willingham [64 & 208]
Two other players have more RBIs, but less HRs, and five others have hit more HRs, but less RBIs.
nolie
November 13th, 2012
3:43 pm
an armed society is a polite society Robert Heinlein
Lew
November 13th, 2012
3:44 pm
cricket – She can’t stand him.
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
3:44 pm
If the Yankees have multiple comp picks, they would come in succession.
And that’s something that I had never really gotten a handle on, previously. Thanks, Efrim.
Or Eee-frum. Whichever.
cricket
November 13th, 2012
3:44 pm
Beautiful day, a little chilly, calm seas………
i’m full of envy
Murph
November 13th, 2012
3:45 pm
Bat, i’m bringing the family for a visit next February. First stop Disneyworld, second stop, Uncle Bat’s house.
phil
November 13th, 2012
3:46 pm
Old Clinton down my way isn’t half bad for bbq….it’s like th eplace that time forgot when you walk in there.
cricket
November 13th, 2012
3:47 pm
second stop, Uncle Bat’s house.
not Grampa Bat’s house?
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
3:47 pm
an armed society is a polite society
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
3:47 pm
BBQ and banana pudding take up a goodly chunk of the space. _ scoots
I’ve been thinking about Lilly’s Q lately. Damn good banana pudding, Gotta have some soon
phil
November 13th, 2012
3:48 pm
uncle bat….lol
I’m heading to a sunny, tropical locale south of Cuba tomorrow for about 6 days or so…
Maybe by day 3 or so I can begin to relax!
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
3:49 pm
I’m behind on reading, are y’all picking on phil?
I suspect he gets tired of explaining himself
Murph
November 13th, 2012
3:49 pm
not Grampa Bat’s house?
Ssshhh! Can’t you see I’m trying to invite myself to Bat’s house?! Making him mad won’t help my cause.
Roman Gal
November 13th, 2012
3:50 pm
Who likes butter beans and mashed potatoes (with gravy I assume?)
Butter beans are my favorite! And that’s the only context in which bacon is acceptable.
phil
November 13th, 2012
3:50 pm
murph, you forgot lice….
we’ve been in a battle with the bastards for 3 weeks now.
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
3:51 pm
Murph_
Sure why not, it’s only 8, or so, hours away. Swing by
nolie
November 13th, 2012
3:52 pm
maybe Bat just started real young Murph
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
3:52 pm
I’ve been thinking about Lilly’s Q lately. Damn good banana pudding
Man, we had an all-time champeen thread here about banana pudding, once. Recipes. Favorite restaurants. Consistency, even, LOL. Family stories involving banana pudding. You name it. Went on for half an entire blog and covered two different days. It was flippin’ awesome.
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
3:52 pm
Maybe by day 3 or so I can begin to relax!
Turn off all your devices a day ahead of time. Screw real life
Murph
November 13th, 2012
3:54 pm
I’m heading to a sunny, tropical locale south of Cuba tomorrow for about 6 days or so
Been watching The Firm again, phil? Watch out for the albino dude.
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
3:54 pm
And that’s something that I had never really gotten a handle on, previously. Thanks, Efrim.
I think the best we could do on a 1st rounder is now #20 overall – if ALL of the free agents are signed by a team in the 11-31 range. I think…..
Or Eee-frum. Whichever
Hah! Yup. That was another one. Too much emphasis on the E. It’s really F-from.
phil
November 13th, 2012
3:55 pm
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
3:49 pm
I’m behind on reading, are y’all picking on phil?
I suspect he gets tired of explaining himself
***********
LOL
I do get worn out with it and debate just moving on, but I CAN see where my group digs would get a bit old. Would that the converse could be similarly perceived…
nolie
November 13th, 2012
3:55 pm
F from where???………..
RC
November 13th, 2012
3:55 pm
What’s the WAR for good BBQ? Or the BABiP? And who cares?
This is a very important question that deserves our attention. First off, I think the metric to use would be TAS (Taste Above Sonny’s). We use Sonny’s since it’s pretty much the lowest form of BBQ acceptable for human consumption. I think we’ll need to incorporate some type of positional adjustments into the formula, since it’d be unfair to compare brisket with pulled pork, or Boston butt with ribs. You’d also have to come up with something to account for differences in vinegar based or mustard based sauce.
No matter what the formula, I’m fairly sure that Community Q in Decatur will come out on top. Best in the Atlanta area by far.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
3:56 pm
Turn off all your devices a day ahead of time. Screw real life
That’s gotta be tough to do… no Twitter, no email, text, videos, sports news…..
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
3:56 pm
i’m full of envy
Ha, well you have a beach, even if you can’t use it at lunch during the week.
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
3:56 pm
he eight potential compensation free agents, listed in the order in which their former clubs’ draft picks would fall at the end of the first round:
Cardinals,Rays,Rangers,Braves,Yankees,Nationals
Very small chance the Yankees lose all of their players. But, they will have a few high draft picks and this new system shortens the total length of first round/comp round from years past… which bumps up talent in the later rounds
nolie
November 13th, 2012
3:56 pm
it is perceived, I just said as much
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
3:57 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/danny-knobler/20969282/hunter-visits-detroit-and-source-says-he-wants-to-play-there
This makes a lot of sense. Two years, $26 million like Beltran got last year. I’d probably go a bit lower on that though – like 2/$23 – but that’s not a huge difference.
phil
November 13th, 2012
3:58 pm
Have to keep the devices turned on…
Maybe I should read The Firm again….it’s been about 20 years.
Hillbilly
November 13th, 2012
3:59 pm
deer,…
Speaking of which, I’ve been doing my part for the past 2 weeks…a little population management, if you will.
Murph
November 13th, 2012
3:59 pm
That’s gotta be tough to do… no Twitter, no email, text, videos, sports news…..
I would love that for a week. Now if I could just find someone to watch the 4 year old for me… anyone?
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
3:59 pm
The Yankees are privately pleased that Soriano opted out of his $14MM salary for next season. They’ll allocate those dollars elsewhere and could use a portion of it on a reliever to replace Soriano.
Ha! It’ll crack me up if Soriano screws himself again with his qual/arb dealings.
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
4:00 pm
Can the Braves end up with 2 Top 30 picks? I think so, if every free agent left their team and signed with a team in the 11-31 range, I believe. Obviously the chances are slim that it would happen.
I think #20 and #27? I could be way off though.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
4:01 pm
I’ve had my fill of little children Murph… when you have 2 brothers under the age of 6, you wanna escape as soon as possible.
Later y’all
Jack Clompus
November 13th, 2012
4:01 pm
No Pence, please. He’s such an oddball. We already have Popeye and a bunch of unathletic-looking bubbas.
nolie
November 13th, 2012
4:01 pm
to me Hunter is not worth nearly what Beltran is, more power to him if he can get that
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
4:02 pm
Lot of catching available in next years draft. Should have something like 6 or 7 in the Top 40, the way it is looking.
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
4:03 pm
That’s gotta be tough to do… no Twitter, no email, text, videos, sports news…..
I used to go stay at a friends stilt house in Biscayne Bay fairly often. Load up the boat with supplies, food, drinks, all that. Stay for several days at a time….. no electricity, no phones, nothing…… well the house was wider and you could run a generator, we never did. Sleep out on the dock at night, watching the lights of Miami across the bay.
Chum up sharks at night to fish, jump of the dock in the mornings to bath……….. Loved it, miss it
nolie
November 13th, 2012
4:03 pm
but we already have Boscan and Bethancourt….
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
4:04 pm
Yeah, I agree nolie. I think he’s going to get it – but not the player Beltran is at all. That was such a great signing by the Cardinals. They are stacked.
cricket
November 13th, 2012
4:06 pm
to me Hunter is not worth nearly what Beltran is, more power to him if he can get that
with that more power, will he come close to catching up with beltran?
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
4:06 pm
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
In this year’s FA market, the strong early push is for the best one-year deals — because of a stagnant trade market, high FA prices.
Isn’t this every year? I mean, they said the early deadlines were suppose to speed up the hot stove season – but that never is the case and I didn’t expect it to be again this year.
phil
November 13th, 2012
4:07 pm
You can still jump off of a dock….
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
4:08 pm
but we already have Boscan and Bethancourt….
I just want a bat. Although it’s always tough to not want that HS pitcher that can touch the mid-90’s with the heater.
nolie
November 13th, 2012
4:11 pm
you too
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
4:11 pm
Speaking of which, I’ve been doing my part for the past 2 weeks…a little population management, if you will.
A cousin of ours sent a pic of an 8 pointer he shot last week to my brother. Nice deer, made my brother feel a little wistful
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
4:11 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Braves pitchers and catchers will report on Feb. 11. First full-squad workout will be Feb. 15
Right around the corner. Just go with Boscan at C, Constanza in CF and Francisco at 3rd………
nolie
November 13th, 2012
4:13 pm
ah yes, stalking and eating Bambi. I miss it so……
Murph
November 13th, 2012
4:13 pm
Nice article about Kimbrel on MLB.com…
In 63 appearances out of the bullpen this season, Kimbrel went 3-1 with a 1.01 ERA, converting 42 of 45 save opportunities. Those are obviously outstanding numbers, but dig a little deeper to see where Kimbrel holds up in history (counting only those who worked at least 40 innings in a single season):
• Kimbrel worked 62 2/3 innings and struck out 116. That’s a 16.7 strikeouts-per-nine-innings ratio. The best in history.
• The opposition hit .128 off Kimbrel. That is the lowest such mark in history.
• Kimbrel allowed 3.88 hits per nine innings. That, too, is the lowest such mark in history.
• The opposition registered a .358 OPS off Kimbrel. That is the second lowest in history, and the lowest in 48 years.
• Kimbrel posted a 0.65 WHIP, the lowest ever for an NL reliever and the third lowest all-time, trailing only the 0.61 marks posted by Eckersley in 1989 and ‘90.
If you faced Kimbrel in 2012, you could basically flip a coin before walking into the batter’s box to determine whether or not you’d strike out. Of the 231 batters Kimbrel faced, 116 did. That’s the highest strikeout percentage (.502) in history.
nolie
November 13th, 2012
4:15 pm
if he stays healthy Kimbrel is gonna get filthy rich for a reliever
RC
November 13th, 2012
4:15 pm
I just want a bat. Although it’s always tough to not want that HS pitcher that can touch the mid-90’s with the heater.
High school bats. High school bats. High school bats. (If I repeat it enough, it might come true…)
Preferably high school bats with a solid “hit” tool, not ambiguous “athlete” types that don’t have much baseball experience (looking at you, Lipka).
Bat Masterson
November 13th, 2012
4:16 pm
You can still jump off of a dock….
Yeah, it ain’t the same. The Feds terminated the leases on those stilt houses. Florida used to give them out willy nilly. There was probably close to a hundred at one time, now maybe 8 or 10. Hurricanes wiped most of them out over the years.
My friend can still use his families old house, he just has to get permission and reserve it. The guys from Sea Hunt used to get together there to drink and play poker.