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Enquiring Minds Want To Know
November 13th, 2012
11:54 am
If we’re going to overpay for an outfielder I hope it’s Hunter, because if we make a mistake, its only for two years. Best case scenario is he provides a bridge to Gattis (or whoever, if Gattis doesn’t make it),
and also provides depth at the other OF positions in case of injury. Trade for Span, sign Hunter, sign Laird, wait for spring.
David O'Brien
November 13th, 2012
11:54 am
Don’t get it, DOB. You claim that Denard Span is a top target for the CF job, then you mention Josh Willingham for the LF job, who is on the same MIN team. You mention that by obtaining Willingham and his cheap contract that would leave them enough in the budget to spend big on a CF, but there’s no one either than Bourn to fill the CF and leadoff job. We couldn’t get Willingham AND Span from MIN because they would presumably be to great of a hole in the OF for MIN to fill, not including how much we’d have to give up. — Derek
Derek, you’re reading too much into my thinking aloud and speculation. As I indicate, I don’t think Twins will trade Willingham because of hole it puts in their lineup and the club-friendly contract. But if they will, he’d be a great fit for Braves.
But if they saved the money by getting him, the Braves could throw more at someone such as Pagan, maybe convince him to leave S.F. the way Boston convinced Ross to leave the Braves,j just on a grander scale. Or they could offer a little more than they wanted to for Bourn. Or they could try to trade for someone that maybe would otherwise be too expensive, or someone we don’t even know might be available.
There are many ways that these things can go. The Braves don’t give us a list of preferences, specific or even vague. And other teams don’t put out lists of everyone they might make available. Most teams don’t leak the stuff or just come out and say it the way Arizona does, and most teams aren’t as close to air-tight on many matters as Braves are. Most teams are somewhere between.
Don’t try to read into my list as if it came from Braves and is exactly the way they view things.
Deep Breath and Reload
November 13th, 2012
11:55 am
So the Braves spend 12 mil to retain Mac knowing he won’t be available for a month, maybe two.
And they won’t spend an extra 1.5 mil a year out of a 95 million dollar payroll to pay the best backup catcher in baseball to cover for a question mark starting catcher who may NEVER be what he was again? And if Mac walks after 2013, who better than Ross to school your young catching prospects should they advance to the bigs?
The Braves didn’t want to spend another “3 mil on the catcher position”? Why? I have heard so many times here in the past things like “You can’t pay that much for a utility guy like Prado.” Then suddenly, Prado is a valuable star, no matter what position he plays.
These generalities like “can’t pay 3 million more for the catcher position” (an extra 1.5 mil a year) just shows you how inept the overall organization is. The Braves won’t find a catcher to replace Ross that can bring what Ross brings to the table. Watching the Braves Pizz away 1.5 million in payroll on a yearly basis should show everyone just how stupid not bringing Ross back will be.
I don’t care what position it is if Ross isn’t worth an extra 1.5 million to the Braves, then sure as hell Mac definitely isn’t worth 12 million to the Braves!
David O'Brien
November 13th, 2012
11:55 am
Rob M, thanks much.
Murph
November 13th, 2012
11:56 am
Murph, ole Teddy never had to deal with a blogging fanbase.
Can you imagine if he had? Would have been ugly.
I just think it’s ok to go into a season carrying some risk. What’s the worst that could happen? Olt fails miserably at the major league level and has to be sent down while Juan moves into a starting role.
Pretty much the exact plan the team had going into 2012 with Chipper, not knowing if he’d be able to play 1 game or 130 games.
Simmons is a huge cost, but if the deal could be done for some other combination of players, I think the Braves would be crazy not to look at it.
VaBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
11:57 am
Willingham is a big time thumper. Problem is he belongs in the AL. Gotta remember that he played 30 games as DH for each of the past 2 seasons. While he would still provide good numbers for his salary I would expect him to maybe play 120 games at best.
He spend his whole career in the NL until the past 2 season’s. In the NL he averaged 127 games a season with 20 homers and 60 rbi’s, noting that these are his younger days.
But in the AL he’s averaged 140 games with 32 homers and 102 rbi’s. Even if he didn’t produce much when he was the DH which was the case, it still kept him healthy and fresh throughout the season which made him more productive.
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
12:01 pm
but if the deal could be done for some other combination of players [than Simmons], I think the Braves would be crazy not to look at it
I certainly have no problem with the Braves pursuing that guy, not at all, but I’d see that as a parallel track to acquiring RH sock with some kind of track record.
The Real Brave
November 13th, 2012
12:02 pm
This town and this news outlet do nothing but make excuses for this team.
Nowhere man
November 13th, 2012
12:03 pm
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VaBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
12:05 pm
I don’t see Wren signing anyone who received a qualifying offer, I think he know’s we could use some top draft picks to help replenish our rather weak farm system.
As for trades, it seems Justin Upton isn’t gonna happen, Josh Willingham is the other name most talked about. But who are some other RH Corner OFer’s on the trade block? I can’t think of any. I really see us having some kind of combination with Prado moving from LF to 3B all season.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
12:08 pm
Paul Sullivan @PWSullivan
Scott Baker signs one year deal w/ Cubs $5.5 mil plus incentives.
Rick C
November 13th, 2012
12:08 pm
VaBravesFan, although I doubt they’d trade him within the division, Michael Morse will probably be made available if the Nats re-sign Adam LaRoche.
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
12:09 pm
He was hardly viewed as a given that ST, and it would not have been a crushing blow if he had needed more seasoning
That’s not what I recall from that Spring Training… or the preceding off-season for that matter. Heyward was going to be in RF. The only guy in recent memory who maybe wasn’t going to get the job out of ST was Schafer, and even there it was heavily weighted in his favor.
Patrick
November 13th, 2012
12:12 pm
soooooooooooooo…we pick up McCann’s RIDICULOUS option, allow our ONLY insurance policy at C to walk for a lousy 3 million a year, and now it’s looking more and more like Hunter will be playing LF next year (or maybe even CF?) when we began this off-season with over 25 million to work with? uggggggggggggggggggla….
BravesFanSince80s:
I don’t think that you’ll have to worry about Hunter coming to the Braves, because…when the words “bidding war” come up, every single person in the Braves Front Office runs and hides faster than a speeding bullet
Instead, what they’ll do is trade (or, a better word will get fleeced) off all their top prospects for a very disappointing and less than stellar return, because our GM is not too bright, panics from time to time and has a very disurbing trend in most of his trades to give up too much, it seems as if he never realizes that he’s holding all the cards. It is disheartening to know that your favorite team is going to be moving in the wrong direction for the forseeable future.
With the exception of Schuerholtz, this team is in very bad hands.Stan Kasten knew it, he say the writing on he wall when Ted sold the team and he made the wise decision to leave.
Look what he’s done for the Nats and now, the Dodgers
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
12:13 pm
He was hardly viewed as a given that ST, and it would not have been a crushing blow if he had needed more seasoning. It would be quite a different story to trade for Mike Olt and pencil him in before even seeing him play.
As I remember, in late 2009, it was almost a given that Heyward would be in RF on Opening Day 2010. They didn’t officially say the job was his, even in ST, but there was no one to compete against him. The only way he wouldn’t have made the team was if he got hurt or just looked overmatched. Did the same thing w/ Rev this year.
Murph
November 13th, 2012
12:14 pm
Ryan Ludwick has sock and a track record, but I’d still rather see Olt than him come next April.
I get the avoidance of risk, especially with a team that is soooo close to postseason glory… but on the flipside, playing it safe hasn’t always worked in the team’s favor in the past.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Just illustrates what a tough position Wren is in this offseason. All that money, all those trade chips, and not a clear target to be found.
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
12:16 pm
Did the same thing w/ Rev this year.
Not really. Simmons gave him a run for his money and “won” the job with a delayed promotion. Wasn’t Simmons recovering from an injury or something?
But, that is actually more recent than Schafer. Pastornicky and Simmons competed for the job. Schafer had several guys to compete with for his spot. He certainly wasn’t a given at any point in the off-season leading up to or initially in ST.
Lew
November 13th, 2012
12:17 pm
VaBraves – First of all, I don’t see the Braves making a trade for Doumit or any other back up catcher – they’ll just sign a cheap Free Agent and be done with it.
And even if they did, they would not carry three catchers. If he’s the back up then he’ll be the back up and not utility man.
And (not responding to you here) – if McCann is iffy at age 30, why is Ross not at age 36 and especially not next year at age 37?
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
12:18 pm
One year, $5.5 million for Baker. He’s got pretty good numbers and is a good sign for the Cubs. They still need a couple more starters though.
raleighbravefan
November 13th, 2012
12:19 pm
The hot stove has heated up the peanut gallery, I see. Some comments seem pretty far out there…but everyone is entitled to an opinion I guess. Fun to speculate, but realistically, it’s only Nov. 13. Don’t judge the cake until it’s baked. Negative rants about Wren seem uncalled for, at least…let it play out before you vent.
Lew
November 13th, 2012
12:19 pm
I’ll see y’all later – don’t want to drown in the overflow of tears pouring out on the Ole Blog right about now.
raleighbravefan
November 13th, 2012
12:21 pm
DOB – Thanks for your input…always welcomed here by the vast majority of us. You can ignore the rest, like we do.
CrαZy
November 13th, 2012
12:21 pm
It’s not hard to change your team… If you hate the Braves, the owners, the front office, if your always negative about everything and constantly complain about the braves not throwing money at every need maybe you’d be a happier person if you gave up on the Braves and started pulling for teams like the Dodgers, Nats or Phillies… Really just go enjoy life on the other side I doubt you’ll have anyone try to talk you out of it!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
12:22 pm
they’ll just sign a cheap Free Agent and be done with it.
With a .200 hitting BU catcher and the .200 hitting Janish on the bench… our pinch-hitting sure looks good. Juan and possibly Mejia need to cut down on the Ks and be ready to play big. If Reed is re-signed, him too…
Couch Tater
November 13th, 2012
12:24 pm
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.
Teddy Roosevelt, huh? Shows what I know. I thought that was a quote from Jeff Francoeur when the Braves demoted him in ‘08. Bully.
George_George
November 13th, 2012
12:26 pm
Lew
November 13th, 2012
9:57 am
CB – Is it just me or has the level of idiocy ratcheted up a notch since last year?
****************
Good day all
Lew, Talk about idiocy, CB suggested [ hopefully only in jest] tradeing JASON for G BLANCO. Like no way.
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
12:28 pm
I think Simmons surprised a lot of people on his hitting. I think most people thought he would put the ball in play, but I think he may be more than just a singles hitter as time goes on. Probably not going to walk a ton though. But he’s present day star in the field at the most important defensive position and that is really valuable – especially if it comes along with a .700-.750 OPS.
Murph
November 13th, 2012
12:29 pm
don’t want to drown in the overflow of tears pouring out on the Ole Blog right about now.
I was actually expecting things around here to be way worse today than they’ve been. Not very often a big name prospect is linked to the Braves, with the subsequent news of the deal being nixed.
Simmons should go into next season feeling damn good about himself and his team. They obviously like him… they really, really like him.
Murph
November 13th, 2012
12:36 pm
Is SS more important than CF? Is that based on the number of chances per game or something?
raleighbravefan
November 13th, 2012
12:42 pm
CraZy @12:21 –
Hoosier Aaron
November 13th, 2012
12:43 pm
I’d give the Cubbies another call and see how much of Soriano’s salary they’d eat for the next two years.
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
12:45 pm
Bob Nightengale @BNightengale
The #Marlins are letting teams know that virtually everyone is available on trade market, and plenty of teams are calling.
Isn’t this always the case with the Marlins? Don’t they have a “always listening” thought process with their roster?
Obviously Giancarlo Stanton is going nowhere.
raleighbravefan
November 13th, 2012
12:46 pm
Murph – SS or CF more important? Not the argument, I don’t think. I agree with Wren…keep Simmons. I believe it will be easier to find an acceptable CF, than to replace Simmons for the next 6 years.
PuddyCat
November 13th, 2012
12:47 pm
@JimBowdenESPNxm: Best fits for 10 elite free agents
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/the-gms-office/post/_/id/5345/best-fits-for-top-10-free-agents
raleighbravefan
November 13th, 2012
12:48 pm
Efrim – Agreed about Stanton…that’s the reason for the term “virtually” everyone.
Murph
November 13th, 2012
12:48 pm
raleigh, my question is unrelated to the Simmons trade rumors… just responding to a post by Efrim, trying to get some sort of sense as to how the defensive positions are ranked in order of importance to a team’s overall defensive ability.
Obviously both SS and CF are important defensive positions, but I’ve seen people say that SS is the MOST important, and was just curious why.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
12:49 pm
Obviously Giancarlo Stanton is going nowhere.
Stanton for Heyward and Teheran….
Look into Bonifacio, Ruggiano, Cishek (RP)
DAP
November 13th, 2012
12:50 pm
id take a look at justin ruggiano.
jbill
November 13th, 2012
12:53 pm
What kind of contract would it take to get KELLY SHOPPACH free agent?
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
12:57 pm
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
Sources say there’s a good chance Torii Hunter will sign with the Tigers unless his hometown Rangers make a push — which is very possible.
Murph
November 13th, 2012
12:57 pm
Uggla, Gattis, and Teheran for Stanton… you could leave 2B unoccupied or play the Rev there, wouldn’t matter. You’d still win every game by 10+ runs.
162-0, even with Hanson still in the rotation.
jbill
November 13th, 2012
12:59 pm
Forget Shoppach..he’s already signed 2013 for 1.3 million.
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
1:03 pm
Stanton is moving right along. Really had hoped Heyward would progress the way Stanton has. Stanton’s third year in the majors and he hit .290/.361/.608/.969. All his numbers have steadily increased, even with injuries.
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
1:04 pm
Really had hoped Heyward would progress the way Stanton has
You see Keith Law saying he’d take Heyward over Stanton and Harper if he had to choose right now?
What a hater he is…..
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
1:04 pm
That’s not what I recall from that Spring Training… or the preceding off-season for that matter.
Maybe I have some selective memory, since I thought in that offseason that a little more seasoning wouldn’t hurt him.
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
1:09 pm
KL’s Braves-hate is exceeded only by his Heyward-love.
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ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
1:11 pm
Really had hoped Heyward would progress the way Stanton has
Since Heyward has played more games, he’s obviously the more durable player, though.
T J Lambert
November 13th, 2012
1:14 pm
Did the Braves win or loose 94 games. For many I would think it is the latter.
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
1:14 pm
You see Keith Law saying he’d take Heyward over Stanton and Harper if he had to choose right now?
I also saw Law saying he doesn’t like bacon. Thinks it’s evil.
Steve from OH
November 13th, 2012
1:15 pm
I also saw Law saying he doesn’t like bacon. Thinks it’s evil.
I’m no longer a Law supporter.
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
1:16 pm
I also saw Law saying he doesn’t like bacon. Thinks it’s evil.
I need no more confirmation for my earlier opinions of the man, LOL.
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
1:16 pm
Since Heyward has played more games, he’s obviously the more durable player, though.
Is he? He just seems to have more excuses for lowering his offensive bar from a .393 OBP to a .335.
What I’m taking away from these responses to that comment though is that, it’s an unreasonable expectation to hope a young player can build on a successful season and move forward… and that any one who had hoped as much is the devil, because that level of hope is unreasonable and unacceptable.
Shaun
November 13th, 2012
1:17 pm
When you take in to account defense and baserunning, those factors have pushed Heyward above Stanton in terms overall value for their careers.
Kashi
November 13th, 2012
1:17 pm
Everyone knew he is the best backup catcher and he wanted to remain in Atlanta. Why the HECK wren waited to long? I would have extend his contract as soon as Brian McCain got hurt. Dumb !!!
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
1:20 pm
Is he?
I was joking against the oft-stated blog premise that the guy is fragile.
Shaun
November 13th, 2012
1:20 pm
Kashi, yes, because all Wren had to do was waive a magic wand, offer Ross an extension as soon as McCann got hurt, and he would have been a Brave for life. It’s that simple. Both parties don’t have to agree or anything. It’s just a matter of Wren offering Ross a contract early. Why didn’t the Braves think of that?
DAP
November 13th, 2012
1:20 pm
bacon, evil? that man is backwards.
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
1:20 pm
When you take in to account defense and baserunning…
Concerning my initial post… this is how that reads: “When you change the subject to focus on something other than what was initially the topic, (for a reminder, improvement in average/on base percentage/slugging year over year)…“
TennesseePaul
November 13th, 2012
1:21 pm
Kashi, I think your post would have been better served if you had also included the html code for the marching ants border as well as some meany faces.
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
1:23 pm
Stanton looks like Defensive End. Heyward more like a WR….or a Von Miller like pass rushing OLB.
Just sayin…..
BravesFanSince80s
November 13th, 2012
1:26 pm
@CraZy: some of the rest of us on the opposite side of the “discussion” might say fans like you would be FAR better off pulling for a Chicago or Kansas City based organization…
Shaun
November 13th, 2012
1:26 pm
TennesseePaul, I’m just addressing this comment:
Stanton is moving right along. Really had hoped Heyward would progress the way Stanton has. Stanton’s third year in the majors and he hit .290/.361/.608/.969. All his numbers have steadily increased, even with injuries.
Just reminding everyone that Heyward has actually provided more career value so far.
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
1:29 pm
bacon, evil? that man is backwards.
We’re probably moments away from a diatribe on the dinosaur geezerness of pork consumers. Clubhouse Confidential will produce reams of data showing the Devil actually created hogs and then seduced Adam and Eve into having breakfast. Nate Silver will do a poll on it, showing that there’s a 90% chance that bacon is evil. Tom Tango will back-test a math model called wBE+ : weighted Bacon Evil, which will then attempt to quantify the relative morality of each set of pork consumers and non-consumers, weighted for ballpark and breakfast restaurant choice (IHOP or Waffle House).
Eventually, MVP voting will turn on this metric and its viability, forcing BBWAA voters to choose between players based on their preference of Turkey Club or BLT.
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
1:29 pm
Just reminding everyone that Heyward has actually provided more career value so far.
TenneseePaul is all about the batters line, Shaun. Everyone knows that……
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
1:29 pm
Stanton has gotten better in every offensive category each year despite the injuries… Heyward has yet to improve anything but HR, SB, runs scored… his stat lines are worse
And according to WAR, Stanton has been worth 1.8 WAR less than Heyward, despite playing in nearly 60 less games.
Time to get going, Jason!
beekay
November 13th, 2012
1:32 pm
Please pass on Hunter…the guy has made some terrible comments in the past and seems like a bitter angry man.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
1:32 pm
yet to improve an any stat line but slugging…
But yes, Heyward’s defense and baserunning are quite valuable. Just slug .520 next year
We need ya
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
1:33 pm
TenneseePaul is all about the batters line, Shaun. Everyone knows that……
Which is the point he was making. I don’t remember seeing anything in the initial post about “value”.
Tumbledown
November 13th, 2012
1:34 pm
I realize everyone has a right to an opinion and a right to be critical of the organization. Differences of opinion are what lead to lively discussion. Nonetheless, I just do not understand why those who are most critical of the organization cannot handle very well posts that challenge their critical views. If you are going to bring the heavy criticism, expect some verbal debate.
BravesFanSince80s
November 13th, 2012
1:35 pm
I would rather have Heyward over Stanton any day. At least Jason hasn’t started asking everybody to call him Alliwicious Heyward, or some other ridiculous name that clearly says things about his ego to the rest of the world around him and he clearly does not see this…
Sea-Town Mike Brown
November 13th, 2012
1:35 pm
DOB, Are the Braves interested in Shin-Soo Chooat all?? … sure looks like the Indians are trying to shop him.
Tumbledown
November 13th, 2012
1:36 pm
beekay – Please pass on Hunter…the guy has made some terrible comments in the past and seems like a bitter angry man.
Care to elaborate on these terrible comments? i seem to revall some controversial comments but nothing all that terrible.
Tumbledown
November 13th, 2012
1:37 pm
recall
BravesFanSince80s
November 13th, 2012
1:37 pm
Shin-Soo Chooat…he he he…
Roman Gal
November 13th, 2012
1:37 pm
I also saw Law saying he doesn’t like bacon.
I always knew he was a smart man.
Shaun
November 13th, 2012
1:38 pm
ncscoots, the AL MVP vote is pretty simple. Trout is very close to Cabrera in hitting, if not slightly better. Trout is the better baserunner. Trout is the better defensive player. Trout’s team won more games in a stronger division (if for some strange reason you think an individual player should be held responsible for his teammates’ performances). I’ll let you folks find the data that leads you to that conclusion because, frankly, it’s there for anyone to see if you have even the most basic skills to search the internet. Even if you don’t, that data is probably in some books and magazines as well. If you’re a reasonable person, Trout’s the AL MVP. If you are biased, don’t know how to interpret data or don’t know what data matters in determining player value, you might be confused in to thinking Cabrera is the MVP. Most of the voters will probably be in the latter camp, which is why they are in the positions that they are in and not working within a MLB front office or for a media outlet that people go to for any in-depth information about analyzing, evaluating and valuating players. However, there is hope that these awards will become more relevant, as more people that work for such media outlets become members of the BBWAA and become awards voters.
beekay
November 13th, 2012
1:39 pm
“People see dark faces out there, and the perception is that they’re African American. They’re not us. They’re impostors,” he told Bob Nightengale. He added, “As African-American players, we have a theory that baseball can go get an imitator and pass them off as us…. It’s like, ‘Why should I get this kid from the South Side of Chicago and have Scott Boras represent him and pay him $5 million when you can get a Dominican guy for a bag of chips?’”
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
1:39 pm
I would rather have Heyward over Stanton any day. At least Jason hasn’t started asking everybody to call him Alliwicious Heyward, or some other ridiculous name
I know this may be a shock, but “Giancarlo” is on the man’s birth certificate, LOL. It’s his name.
beekay
November 13th, 2012
1:39 pm
Tumbledown…is that enough or do you want more
BravesFanSince80s
November 13th, 2012
1:41 pm
ncscoots, I was well aware of that, thank you anyway, doesn’t make it any less dumb…
Sea-Town Mike Brown
November 13th, 2012
1:42 pm
*Choo
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
1:42 pm
If you are biased, don’t know how to interpret data or don’t know what data matters in determining player value, you might be confused in to thinking Cabrera is the MVP.
Golly, with three different choices, I’m having trouble deciding which condescending characterization I want to choose to describe myself.
I’ll get back to you.
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
1:45 pm
Calling yourself by your real name is dumb?
Tumbledown
November 13th, 2012
1:45 pm
beekay – Thanks. While I am not a fan of those comments, I stand by my earlier statement that Hunter’s views, as expressed in those particular comments, are controversial but not all that terrible. Reasonable people may disagree, though.
ncscoots
November 13th, 2012
1:45 pm
doesn’t make it any less dumb…
You mean, it’s dumber than, say, Yuniesky or Yoenis? Or Orel, even? How about Andrelton? Run into many of those on the street?
beekay
November 13th, 2012
1:47 pm
Tumbledown
Issues rose for the baseball star when he insinuated he was racially profiled. Hunter tweeted, “They didn’t believe I lived here in Newport Coast so they walked me upstairs at gunpoint to get my ID. That’s racist.”
abeeeewright
November 13th, 2012
1:47 pm
DS1 – “(where’s Mel Gibson when you need him?)”
Cussing at someone?
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 13th, 2012
1:47 pm
Cabrera in October- .265/.368/.449/.817
Trout in October- Ummm, ummm, oops
Jaime
November 13th, 2012
1:48 pm
WHATEVER YOU DO IS TO HANG ONTO SIMMONS WITH YOUR LIFE!! PRADO AS WELL!
Jaime
November 13th, 2012
1:48 pm
WHATEVER YOU DO IS TO HANG ONTO SIMMONS WITH YOUR LIFE!! PRADO AS WELL!
BravesFanSince80s
November 13th, 2012
1:48 pm
THE POINT was, a grown man who has been known by one name for years to his colleagues and peers and all of a sudden changes his name and expects everybody to start calling him that instead of the name he’s been known by for years in his professional field clearly has an ego problem. It’s not the name, it’s the changing of it that’s dumb…
Efrim
November 13th, 2012
1:50 pm
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/20967863/big-win-for-bay-his-mets-payments-will-be-deferred-over-only-two-years
Not really all that much financial flexibility for the Mets off of the Bay release.
phil
November 13th, 2012
1:50 pm
beekay
November 13th, 2012
1:32 pm
Please pass on Hunter…the guy has made some terrible comments in the past and seems like a bitter angry man.
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So he’s a regular on this blog too?
Threadkiller
November 13th, 2012
1:51 pm
Cabrera will be the MVP
beekay
November 13th, 2012
1:51 pm
Phil…thats a good one. Here is another from nice guy Torii
“When you have a team that doesn’t have any African American players on the team, and then everybody on the team wears it, yes, it’s watered down, because they don’t have blacks to represent Jackie Robinson over there,” Hunter said.
Shaun
November 13th, 2012
1:51 pm
ncscoots, that was not an attempt to be condescending or offensive, nor am I concerned with avoiding being condescending or offensive or being condescending or offensive just for the sake of doing so. Just trying to call it like it is.
Threadkiller
November 13th, 2012
1:51 pm
Cabrera will be the MVP
raleighbravefan
November 13th, 2012
1:51 pm
BFS80 @1:41 – Are you serious? Really? Using his real name is dumb….OKAY. Scrolling on past you….