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Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
4:31 pm
I wonder if the attitude stuff on BJ is overblown.
If he were such a problem than why are so many GM;s courting him to pay him nice $$$$$$$ for a 5 or 6 yr period.
He may have been immature in the past but he cannot be Thaaaat bad a guy if these GM’s (who have had success) are courting him.
If we get him I will sit back and root for the upside and be happy. If not well, I would understand, Its not clear cut and dry on this one.
brian
November 17th, 2012
4:32 pm
Butler and bourn would be great for the Braves. It will be interesting to see how Bourn ’s market shapes up
ncbravesfan90
November 17th, 2012
4:34 pm
“Butler and bourn would be great for the Braves. It will be interesting to see how Bourn ’s market shapes up”
Only way Butler would be a fit for the Braves is if the Braves trade Freeman or the DH rule comes to the NL, neither of which is happening.
ncbravesfan90
November 17th, 2012
4:35 pm
“I wonder if the attitude stuff on BJ is overblown.
If he were such a problem than why are so many GM;s courting him to pay him nice $$$$$$$ for a 5 or 6 yr period.
He may have been immature in the past but he cannot be Thaaaat bad a guy if these GM’s (who have had success) are courting him.”
This.
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
4:35 pm
Uggla is very capaple of a bounce back year.
He showed some good things late in the yr.
For his sake and the sake of three more yrs left on the deal, I hope he bounces back. He is not as bad as some make him out to be.
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
4:36 pm
What is “This” NC Braves — did you mean to post a link?
ncbravesfan90
November 17th, 2012
4:39 pm
Disguested-
No, I was just agreeing with basically everything in that post.
nolie
November 17th, 2012
4:39 pm
I think the attitude stuff is overblown as pertains to the clubhouse, he isn’t really a cancer from what I hear, he is just a chronic underachiever who is too stubborn to change and lacks hustle at times
and GMs are interested because of his upside, they all see it and convince themselves that they are the ones who can get him straight and make him a star.
He may in fact change his approach if he matures more and become an above average player, but don’t come on here saying that is what he has been or guarantee that is what he will become..
I understand the interest in him going forward, I’m just saying that so far he has been a disappointment
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
4:40 pm
“bullcrap. just how many games have you watched him play, and just how do you see his mediocre numbers as being a difference maker and his crappy defense either.”
51 HRs and 160 RBI’s over the last 2 yrs is not mediocre. Good amount of doubles too. XBH power and some speed. And a player who allegedly not reached his upside.
Could do a hell of alot worse than that. Only legit reservation is the cost and time of the contract — that is a legitimate concern for anybody.
jbill
November 17th, 2012
4:44 pm
I think we all understand what you position is on JB but its good to hear others opinion.
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
4:48 pm
I understand NC Braves.
You know, with BJ is right on the verge of 30/30 with 30 doubles. I know what the OBP is and the .298 OBP from last yr is a red flag to some, but if he can raise the OBP to .320, even if he hits .240-.250, so what??????
I’ll sacrifice 30 points on OBP to get the XBH and speed production that BJ can bring to the table. Bourn was what., a .355 OBP last yr. I’d trade 30 something points on that to get the above XBH power.
BJ does have the tools to play a decent CF defense — mixed reviews on what I read about his defensive game.
Hey, remember realy in Andruw’s career there were some Braves fans who thought he was an underachiever? Maybe they expected Ken Griffey Jr., and that was too much. Andrew gave us 9 fine yrs from 08 to 06.
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
4:50 pm
I’m just saying that so far he has been a disappointment @noles
agree with that, as a Rays fan too I have been telling myself for years each spring that this will be the year he will break out and be the star that he should be. So far it hasn’t happened.
The only thing you might say about his hitting is that he plays in one of the tougher parks to hit well in, maybe that would help if he moves away.
nolie
November 17th, 2012
5:04 pm
he plays in one of the tougher parks to hit well in, maybe that would help if he moves away…Pete
you have a point there, but the Ted is not really a hitters park either. He might do some better…or this might finally be the year he breaks out, I don’t think he would come here and be worse than he has been so far anyway.
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
5:14 pm
well I’m sure we will all hope for his star to finally shine if we get him
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
5:20 pm
although he and BJ are on different planes, I remember that you said some of the same thinks about Melkey when we got him after his best season in NY. You were right about that; his offense was way down and he definitely did not hustle a lot of times, hopefully BJ will be all that he can be finally
Powder Blue
November 17th, 2012
5:54 pm
Hate to see Ross go. Not good. Not good at all.
Steve from OH
November 17th, 2012
5:58 pm
Hate to see Ross go. Not good. Not good at all.
Hey man, I like Ross as much as the next guy, but he’s a backup catcher at the end of the day, even though he was a good one. I’ve seen a lot of gnashing and wailing over this, but the club is gonna survive just fine.
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
6:08 pm
The Ted might not be the easiest hitters ballpark but its a pretty fair ballpark both ways with an edge to the pitcher.
So if you are a good hitter you can succeed here. Same if U are a good pitcher.
Good example is Andres Gallarraga who was a stud in Coors and gave us two very good yrs here. Had a 44 HR yr in ‘98.
We really never replaced him until La Roche developed and of course now we have Freddie. For a while first base was not a strength.
I would have liked to see how Justice would have done at the Ted — the guy we never should have moved. Will never know.
Ward
November 17th, 2012
6:10 pm
Hello everyone! Hamilton is on Bostons’ radar now. Seattle droped out of the picture? Too much money.
Ward
November 17th, 2012
6:14 pm
I think it’s cazy how there’s so much negative on B.J. Upton, and how most wan’t to spend some money on a cheap player, so when that cheap player hits like crap. You all will be bitching about that too. People are beign way too damn picky!
Ward
November 17th, 2012
6:16 pm
Why don’t you experts pick out every stat why your at it, and bitch about that too. It’s funny how people have to cherry pick every stat, and bitch.
Ward
November 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
Every player that’s been talked about, has been brought up in a negative way. Nothing will make some of you guys that bitch happy!
Ward
November 17th, 2012
6:19 pm
Have fun, and try not o stress out, and have a heart attack! Peace my friends, and will talk later. Relax………and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
6:28 pm
Go Braves, and take Ward with you…small joke
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
7:06 pm
Hello everyone! Hamilton is on Bostons’ radar now. Seattle droped out of the picture? Too much money.
Of course its too much $$$$$$$$$$ and yrs too. 7 @ 175 for a soon to be 32 yr old Hamilton who has had durability and serious substance problems ——— that is high risk for anyone including a mega market baseball crazed section of the country like New England.
Perhaps RS Nation can absorb that in case of a mistake but I don’t know about Seattle.
I don’t think any more than 4, max 5 yrs makes sense. Just my old gut feeling uninformed two cents.
The more I think of it BJ might not be such a bad gamble for our guys. Do we do it — from what I get give Wren an A for effort.
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
7:09 pm
Why don’t you experts pick out every stat why your at it, and bitch about that too. It’s funny how people have to cherry pick every stat, and bitch.
@Ward — some fans overanalyize it. And some of the stats out there are total ficticious with WAR and VORP being the biggest culprits. FIP and BAIP not far behind.
Too much theory and in the end its results that count.
Jerry
November 17th, 2012
7:10 pm
For his sake and the sake of three more yrs left on the deal, I hope he bounces back. He is not as bad as some make him out to be. Disgusted
Nobody has to make Uggla out to be anything. He’s done that all by himself. Anyone who thinks otherwise about his poor ass performance is merely fooling themselves. He was signed to drive in runs and just his batting average with RISP shows he’s a complete failure at what he signed for. I wish you people would pull your friggin heads outta the sand.
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
7:14 pm
Dexter @ 7:08 —
Cannot say I can argue with that post — Ross was more than a back up and we know what its going to be like the first month pr month plus of the yr.
I do think you are a little harsh on Mc Cann — I will give him more of the benefit of the doubt.
Its getting to the point where you are going to be paying 2 plus to 3 mil for a decent sub this day in time.
I hate replacing Ross with Laird — Laird has bif shoes to fill. And its not like Liberty Medicority isstarving for money — they CAN afford it. Chump change in basebal terms.
The game is great — the business of it stinks as bad as any other big business.
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
7:17 pm
The heads are not in the sand Jerry — we know what his ability is when he is swinging the bat well.
And its not like he has been a problem or let his hitting affect his play in the field or presence in the clubhouse.
Uggla is a good guy — and I have the confidence in him that he can justify the deal.
Don;t agree — that is cool. Hope he can prove you wrong
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
7:22 pm
Dexter — There are some fans who think that Wren can package a deal of Teheran/Delgado and whatver for a Span, Willingham or both for that matter.
As I see it realisticly, as a community of fans, we are overvaluing what our tradable prospects are worth.
Minnesota needs pitching for sure, but the 3 tradables — Hanson (second half struggles), Teheran ( really fallen back this past yr) and Delgado (solid mid rotatin upside but unproven), all have questions.
And no way we are going to get the world for the Gattis, Salcedo and Nick Ahmed (improving) types we have to offer.
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
7:31 pm
Dexter —- I do agree with you about Teheran who was overhyped and not getting any better.
Delgado is a guy we are better off hangin on to for the back of the rotation.
It will be a challenge for Frank to make a trade for a good option.
On Mc Cann I will take a wait and see. If he flops well, that is more $$$$$$$$$$ available in the pot for next yr. I might or might not be a mistake to pick up the option. Don;t know yet.
If Minnesota is serious about shopping those guys they should get more than what we can offer.
Disgusted
November 17th, 2012
7:34 pm
I’ll say that I would not be surprised of one of those guys (Schafer or Francisco) is in the lineup on opening day. Possibly both.
They could sign a platoon type to platoon with Francisco for LF while Prado flip flops between third and LF.
Schafer in CF ———- that is not out of the realm of probability regardless of what they are saying now.
George_George
November 17th, 2012
8:09 pm
nolie
November 17th, 2012
4:29 pm
Let’s not fool ourselves, whoever gets BJ Upton will be getting a tremendous, high caliber ball player who will be a difference maker.
bullcrap. just how many games have you watched him play, and just how do you see his mediocre numbers as being a difference maker and his crappy defense either.
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Thank you nolie, I just don’t understand all the love for BJ on this blog. The past three years he has failed to hit even .250. he loafs in outfield and will cause trouble in clubhouse.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 17th, 2012
8:10 pm
BJ is a great player???? What the hell have you watched/read? Nothing at all makes him look great, even good, except for a 30 game stretch when he decided to hit some XBH. Sukkage other than that. And we’re supposed to pay him 14+ mil in the hopes that he puts it together? No freakin way. We’re not the Yankees, where we can afford to take that risk.
And as nolie asked, how many games has anyone here watched him play? And where did you gett the idea that he’s even an average defender? Cuz I didnt see that. We musta watched different games…..
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 17th, 2012
8:12 pm
Y’all called Garrett Anderson Loaf, we could use the nickname for BJ…
Nowhere man
November 17th, 2012
8:47 pm
You can lose a playoff race in April and letting Ross go could spell big trouble.
Powderfinger
November 17th, 2012
8:53 pm
Just to be clear. We didn’t let Ross go. He got a helluva offer and took it (as any one of us would). The Braves wouldn’t go that high, because there are two expensive full-time positions to be filled. The same ones whining about him leaving would be the same ones whining about Schafer in center, etc. Just wish him the best and move on…
ncbravesfan90
November 17th, 2012
8:55 pm
There’s no way that Francisco, Gattis, or Schafer are in the opening day lineup, not when the Braves have $30 million to spend this offseason.
Powderfinger
November 17th, 2012
8:57 pm
ncbravesfan90—Thank you. ‘Nuff said…
Powderfinger
November 17th, 2012
9:25 pm
Dexter—Why are you even on this blog? I’m no fan of Liberty, but if you’re complaining about Braves management doing their bidding, then you must have never had a job in the real world. All you’re doing is whining about moves that haven’t been made yet. I guess you’re one helluva prognosticator…
ncbravesfan90
November 17th, 2012
9:29 pm
Dexter-
You do realize that the Braves GM, Frank Wren, said the other day in an interview that the Braves payroll this year WILL push $100 million. Therefore, that leaves $30 million left to spend this winter, after taking in to account arb raises. The money will be spent.
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
9:30 pm
I think most of it will be spent too, at least I sure hope so
ncbravesfan90
November 17th, 2012
9:30 pm
Evidently the Marlins signed Juan Pierre??…..
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
As Juan Pierre rejoins the Marlins, he’s got 2,141 career hits. A great opportunity for him to play.
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
9:31 pm
not a Pierre fan, they can have him
Venice Jim
November 17th, 2012
9:34 pm
I appreciate seeing Dexter lentzing his expert analysis…
Venice Jim
November 17th, 2012
9:35 pm
Keith Olbermann @KeithOlbermann
To play LF, SS, and pitch RT @Rotoworld_BB Report: Marlins have signed Juan Pierre
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
9:35 pm
that is who I was thinking of as soon as I started reading his posts. Could very well be th Dentz one IMO
Gary O.
November 17th, 2012
9:43 pm
I felt alot better about BJ before DOB mentioned the fact that he had 10 HR in the first 96 games, and then got hot towards the end of the season.
Russell Bell
November 17th, 2012
9:44 pm
It would be cute if Dexter Morgan was in fact P.L.
What an awful show. .
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
9:46 pm
He has always been a streaky hitter as are most with low batting averages like he has
.246 is the highest he has hit in the last 4 years.
Uggla without the hustle and more speed but lower OBPs it seems
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
9:49 pm
yes, he often uses the names of offbeat characters, both real and fictional, as his alias. where is DOB when we need him?
however I think it is a good show myself, though not as good the last two seasons.
jimmy
November 17th, 2012
9:50 pm
I just looked at Juan Pierre’s stats, He has a real chance at 3000 hits. He has almost 600 steals and a career .297 average. I had know idea he had put up numbers like that.
richbrave
November 17th, 2012
9:53 pm
SOUTH OF THE BORDER
DOMINICA
LICEY TIGERS top of the seventh
3B JUAN FRANCISCO [.327 BA] 0-3, 2 SO.
FRANCISCO has been moved into the #4 slot in the order, protecting MIKE OLT.
RHSP RANDALL DELGADO [6.75 ERA] 3.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R/ER, 2 BB, 4 SO.
ORIENTE STARS
CF FELIX PIE [.260 BA] 1-4, 1 SO, 1 E [2, throw].
LHRP DUSTY HUGHES [0.00 ERA] 0.0 IP, 1 BB.
PUERTO RICO
MANATI ATTENDENTS
2B RUBEN GOTAY [.250 BA] 2-4, 1 R
VENEZUELA
CARACAS LIONS
C J.C. BOSCAN [.340 BA] 2-4, 1 SO.
1B JOSH KROEGER [.260 BA] 2-4, 1 2B [2], 1 SO, 1 CS [2].
ZULIA EAGLES
LF EVAN GATTIS [.273 BA] 1-4.
1B ERNESTO MEJIA [.320 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 SB [1], 2 SO.
richbrave
November 17th, 2012
9:57 pm
VJ:
Sorry your friend had to announce a loss in his swan-song, BUT I’m elated the SPIDERS will return to the show.
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
10:00 pm
Pierre has averaged only about 140 some hits each of the last 5 seasons, I will be surprised if he makes 3000 His defense is rather poor and he has been missing more games , but the Marlins might be so bad that he will play most of the time if healthy.
a decent career as long as the team his no need of any power from him, but even If he does make 3000 I doubt he makes the HOF anyway.
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
10:01 pm
Boscan is no longer a Brave, right?
richbrave
November 17th, 2012
10:02 pm
NYYTOL
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
10:04 pm
oh stuff it Dentz
jimmy
November 17th, 2012
10:05 pm
140 hits a year for next 6 years will get him 3000. Just shocked at that. As recently as 2010 and 2011 he got 178 each year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 17th, 2012
10:08 pm
As a fan of SEC domination, I am optimistic about tonight’s results…
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
10:09 pm
yes if he stays healthy and the team he is with will start him regularly he might make it.
And you are right in that he is not a player who most are aware of as having done so well.
Much of what you do read about him maligns his defense, noodle arm and lack of power.
Ward
November 17th, 2012
10:18 pm
Hello everyone! Boscan has signed with the Dragans In Japan. little humor
Couch Tater
November 17th, 2012
10:23 pm
uga – Commodores sealing the DFA for Dooley.
richbrave
November 17th, 2012
10:28 pm
Ward
November 17th, 2012
10:18 pm
“……Hello everyone! Boscan has signed with the Dragans In Japan. little humor……”
The CUBS I believe.
Ward
November 17th, 2012
10:31 pm
I know, but the Cubs are like the Dragans……little humor
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
10:31 pm
The CUBS I believe.@rich
thank you, I thought I had read that.
Ward
November 17th, 2012
10:59 pm
I’m hoping the Braves do get B.J. Upton, and I hope the Braves get Cody Ross too. I won’t be upset if the Braves can’t get B.J. Upton, or Cody Ross. There is still other ways the Braves can go. Like I said, “I’m open to other out field possibilities, as well.” My choice is B.J. Upton, and Cody Ross. All, have a good one! I’m not picky, and will accept the best for the team. Peace my friends…..Talk tomorrow, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Couch Tater
November 17th, 2012
11:02 pm
The Baylor Baptists breaking up K-State’s dance. Pass me the plate.
Venice Jim
November 17th, 2012
11:05 pm
Looking like SEC hopes could ride on Lane Kiffin and Jim Mora…
Venice Jim
November 17th, 2012
11:07 pm
The entire O-line jumped -wow!
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 17th, 2012
11:10 pm
I know… kinda sukks. I ereally dislike Mora from his Falcons days… and Kiffin really screwed UT. Gonna need the Lame one to beat Neuter Lame. A win from my Stanford Birdies would be real nice tonight…
SEC needs to be in the big game. Would be a sham otherwise… Make it 7 straight
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
11:11 pm
This should stir some argument about Andruw
Using defensive data from Baseball-Reference.com (Defensive Runs Saved since 2002, Total Zone prior to that), here are the best center fielders from ages 26 to 29 and then from 30 to 33.
Age 26 to 29 Runs…Age 30 to 33 Runs
Darin Erstad +87…Kenny Lofton +52
Michael Bourn +62…Darren Lewis +37
Lance Johnson +55…Devon White +30
Devon White +51…Doug Glanville +25
Andruw Jones +50…Carlos Beltran +24
Tony Gwynn Jr. +48…Jim Edmonds +24
Darrin Jackson +48…Andres Torres +22
Chris Young +45…Tsuyoshi Shinjo +22
Kenny Lofton +43…Stan Javier +20
Marquis Grissom+42…Lance Johnson +20
Steve Finley +39…Dave Henderson +16
Frankllin Gutierrez+38…Andruw Jones +15
Torii Hunter +38…Nyjer Morgan +14
Chris Singleton +36…Jody Gerut +14
Mike Cameron +35… Otis Nixon +14
Venice Jim
November 17th, 2012
11:13 pm
Someone turning into Tomahawkin’ with making-fun-of-people’s-names…
And the undying love of an extremely overrated conference…
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 17th, 2012
11:15 pm
a great overturn by the replay… great catch. Amazing how Oregon struggles when they have to play a half good defense. Keeps the score reasonable. Not college basketball-esque
Venice Jim
November 17th, 2012
11:16 pm
I am not overly fond of someone making anti-Catholic comments, which you are too immature to even realize that you did…
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
11:16 pm
very overrated, but what can one expect here?
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 17th, 2012
11:21 pm
Wow, Michael has been really really good.
Venice Jim
November 17th, 2012
11:30 pm
Admittedly, the SEC showed their courage in scheduling an awesome array of FCS games today, and winning most in blowouts…
Couch Tater
November 17th, 2012
11:31 pm
SEC! SEC! SEC!
Venice Jim
November 17th, 2012
11:35 pm
Verrrry interesting……
Couch Tater
November 17th, 2012
11:36 pm
hahahaha.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 17th, 2012
11:36 pm
SEC! SEC! SEC!
Venice Jim
November 17th, 2012
11:37 pm
Ironic that the SEC celebrates a win by a school that emphasizes academics…
Couch Tater
November 17th, 2012
11:38 pm
uga – It’s on.
Venice Jim
November 17th, 2012
11:41 pm
But Georgia and Alabama showed how bold they are by playing tough opponents today….
Good thing the BCS is about to die a well-deserved death, and the SEC will actually have to do more than survive a self-fulfilling “strength-of-schedule” prophecy to automatically qualify in case of a tie…
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 17th, 2012
11:43 pm
Go Dawgs on Dec . 1… go USC next week
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
11:43 pm
I would love to see the BCS die a deserved death
SNEAKY PETE
November 17th, 2012
11:44 pm
I thought it was Go FSU, TOBF?
Venice Jim
November 17th, 2012
11:46 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 17th, 2012
11:43 pm
Go Dawgs on Dec . 1… go USC next week
After all your Twitter hatred for USC for your “beloved Vols” – wow, you have no moral compass whatsoever…
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 17th, 2012
11:48 pm
Yes it is, but considering that my parents are huge UGA fans, and that I will be at the game…. I gotta root for them since they are there. Still sukks that we lost to NC state
Jake W.
November 17th, 2012
11:56 pm
What a night, not even an SEC fan but they have to be happy about the results of the night. They play the best football, almost would not have seemed right if they didn’t have a team in the championship game. Still not guaranteed but it became a whole lot likelier after tonight’s results.
I know its a lot of Georgia fans but I think its going to be tough for Georgia even if they beat Bama to make the big game. That was a bad loss to South Carolina.
ROLLTIDEBRAVE
November 17th, 2012
11:58 pm
ROLL TIDE!!! BAMA just 2 wins away, against the tigers and dawgs to be able to play for the 15th National Championship in school or NCAA history! Just play your game and take control! ROLL TIDE!!!
Couch Tater
November 18th, 2012
12:05 am
ROLLTIDEBRAVE – I didn’t figure two would get beat, today. Sweet! RTR.
uga-brave
November 18th, 2012
12:12 am
tater, i would rather tip on om on.
two steps on. from the back tees.
Jake W.
November 18th, 2012
12:12 am
I thought Notre Dame would lose before the other two did. Guess I was wrong. Crowd favorite Notre Dame to the front of the line. Espn will be happy, especially if they hold onto it.
Bobby H
November 18th, 2012
12:18 am
It’s weird reading so many calling out this, Dexter Morgan dude, but not seeing his posts. Apparently, DOB has been reading his blog, too.
MikeInFl
November 18th, 2012
12:22 am
Jake W., I tend to dislike ND as much as the next Southerner, but I actually like this team. They run the ball and play defense, and are fast. Look a lot like an SEC team this year.
‘Course I’m hoping USC pounds them into the turf next week, UGA wins out, Florida beats FL State, and we have a UGA-Florida National Championship Game. Now that would be fun!
Took a leave from the blog for a couple months… good to see nothing’s changed here!
Couch Tater
November 18th, 2012
12:26 am
uga – All those 3 wood second shots pose a problem for me from the tips. Can’t
reachhold the green. I gotta get flange’s workout video.TheOnlyBravesFan
November 18th, 2012
12:35 am
Florida beat Florida State
UGA vs UF wouldnt be a bad title game though…. 2 really good football teams that play defense and can run the ball.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 18th, 2012
12:38 am
A Florida State vs UGA Nat’l Championship game would be good… really long odds though