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nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:26 pm
gee Mixxo is just sooo happy to have a couple others to be negative about Mac with, y’all made his day
Darkcow
November 14th, 2012
10:26 pm
just messin with ya
Venice Jim
November 14th, 2012
10:27 pm
The Mixxo era never got started, unfortunately for you and your Braves’ hatred…
HooRah
November 14th, 2012
10:27 pm
those are probably the same two, whenever the one shows up he always has a new sidekick show up at the same time to verify his great insight
nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:29 pm
well I definitely need messin’ with some times, I will admit
Darkcow
November 14th, 2012
10:30 pm
Nolie, you can’t let your emotions get the best of you when it comes to a player. Even as fans we have to consider the business side of baseball because that’s just reality. Everyone in here likes McCann, but we also want to have the best team on the field every single night. If we give McCann this huge contract to keep him around based on what he’s DONE, then that won’t be the case.
Mac has never been a gym rat, and as he ages, as a big bodied catcher, the constant nagging injuries are just around the corner. Let an AL team deal with that.
Venice Jim
November 14th, 2012
10:30 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
No. RT @ClintonJmyers: @ajcbraves Are the #Braves in any way interested in Greinke?
Glad no one on the blog is THIS naive…
David O'Brien
November 14th, 2012
10:31 pm
Also in Venezuela, Ernesto Mejia keeps raking, albeit with lot of K’s. Before Wednesday he was hitting .314 with 4 doubles, a triple, 7 HR, 20 RBIs and a .917 OPS in 26 games, with 34 K’s in 105 at-bats.
ncgary
November 14th, 2012
10:34 pm
damn some of them prayers must be working
cause old lady wins a sporster 883 and at the als clinic today
my lung capacity has doubled since august. im getting stronger instead of weaker
so now i am a candidate to get like a pacemaker for my diaphragm. may be able to get off of the oxygen then, get back sam im gonna beat this shiyt yet
nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:34 pm
my emotions are not involved at all, I said earlier that I think his days are numbered. doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate what he has done or am angry about his decline as so many here are.
I have preached here for years that you can’t fall in love with a player and lose objectivity if you are making team decisions
nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:35 pm
Damn, that is good to hear Gary, and I love your old lady’s hog . keep it up buddy
David O'Brien
November 14th, 2012
10:36 pm
Shouldn’t that Daily DOB be changed to the weekly or twice monthly DOB? — Nowhere man
You can call it whatever you want to, my man. Weekly DOB, Monthly DOB, whatever does it for ya. And you can read it, or skip it, or just complain about all parts of it. It’s all good.
By the way, you might want to save the whiny little complaints for when there’s actually been a lot of time between the blog, smart guy. Say in a few more days. zyhat one has only been up 48 hours. Filed it late Monday night. Today is Wednesday. And unless you know of some Braves news that’s occurred in the interim…
Darkcow
November 14th, 2012
10:37 pm
Oh, ok. I just thought you were on the “pay Mac” side of the argument.
ncgary
November 14th, 2012
10:37 pm
thanks nolie , im taking a trailer down to wilmington to pick it up friday
Venice Jim
November 14th, 2012
10:38 pm
Great news, ncgary!
ncgary
November 14th, 2012
10:40 pm
wonder if i could get a moto licence with oxygen
lol
need to trade it for a 3 wheeler
nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:42 pm
I’m on the border line with Mac IF he bounces back and has a huge year, but I think he could get more from an AL team and the Braves should not overpay for him.
ncgary
November 14th, 2012
10:42 pm
well the pacemaker aint guaranteed , i have to pass a nerve test next month, and its pretty new technology. fda approved but my neurosurgeon isnt too impressed with it, doesnt mind using me as a guinea though, and shucks im game for it too
jbill
November 14th, 2012
10:42 pm
Congrats ncgary on improvement…and man what a car..go man!
ncgary
November 14th, 2012
10:43 pm
so wren needs to get this team together cause i might get to stick around and watch em again
Chipper's Southern Bell
November 14th, 2012
10:44 pm
They just said Bobby Cox is coming out of retirement.
nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:44 pm
HD Trikes are cool, I had one for a number of years when my legs first started to go bad. sold it about three years ago as they are worse.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 14th, 2012
10:44 pm
Great to hear, gary.
jbill
November 14th, 2012
10:45 pm
Nolie @ 10:43…Best blog of the day…
DOB @ 10:36….thanks man for all your travels and news up-dates.
nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:45 pm
who is they CSB?
ncgary
November 14th, 2012
10:45 pm
thanks everyone man i got some lucky sisters and old ladys. sis just got back from a trip to hawaii with her husband she won. between her and my oldest sis thats 5 trips to hawaii they have won
Peter R.
November 14th, 2012
10:45 pm
I could see the Braves being much improved next season. I think Wren made the right calls in not signing either Ross or Hunter. Both of them are too old. We all know what happens to older players in the post HGH era. Besides Hunter had Trout, Trumbo, and Pujols protecting him in the lineup. I could see B.J. Upton being a good gamble (I mean that’s what free agency is nowadays), maybe he would take a modest contract. Swisher might be another good target. Sign both of them and then you don’t have to trade anyone. You can just hold onto the pitching in case if something goes horribly wrong mid-season. Beats me what they would do without a good lead off hitter. But for the last 70 games Bourn wasn’t that hot. Gotta hope that Fuggly and McCann’t bounce back in big ways next year. Say you get 50 hrs from Swisher + Upton. Then Heyward miraculously gets 30, which has the power to do. He just needs to figure out how to hit .250 against lefties. Then McCann’t gets 20ish. Then Fuggly gets about 20ish. Freeman gets 20ish. + all the other random hrs from other players, namely Prado and Simmons, The Braves would get 150 hrs next year if they went with that formula. They really need Swisher and Upton since they both are right handed hitters. I think Upton has it in him to get his OBP back into the .340s range. Swisher bats switch so he could make a decent cleanup hitter. So you could go: Prado, Upton, Heyward, Swisher, Freeman (I think the 5 hole is spot for Freeman – he’s too slow), Fuggly, McCann’t, Simmons, seems a lot better than some other teams could do. I think without having to depend on Chipper anymore the Braves will be in much better shape because they will be able to get more consistent good play from an expensive player. I say just spread the 25 million or whatever b/w Swisher and Upton. Don’t really see how else to make this team start going again. Signing Cody Ross I don’t think would be a real game changer to me. He’s the dude that just manages to be a decent player in his 30s. The 1.6 WAR dude. Remember John Buck? He dropped off like a rock. Braves are right to be paitent. Or f*** what do I know? Maybe they should make a trade – might be more cost effective and you don’t have to risk the money on big contracts. Plus, I don’t think a soul in baseball is going to give Swisher/Upton more than 5 years. That would be reasonable. Dodgers, Tigers, Angels, Yankees, maybe even the Red Sox might have spent all their money by now. I think the Phillies will Hamilton might get it going again though. But J-Roll and Utley both aren’t the same players anymore, but I digress.
ncgary
November 14th, 2012
10:46 pm
yeah bc going back to toronto aint he
Chipper's Southern Bell
November 14th, 2012
10:47 pm
They said on Atlanta fox 5 to manage who? I hope it’s Atlanta braves
HooRah
November 14th, 2012
10:47 pm
that digresser is back again I see
Chipper's Southern Bell
November 14th, 2012
10:48 pm
Ttoronto. He declined
nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:48 pm
ain’t gonna be the Braves, Wren ain’t having that….
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 14th, 2012
10:48 pm
What would you consider overpaying, nolie? More than 3 guaranteed years at 13mil per? Or even higher…
ncgary
November 14th, 2012
10:49 pm
well its definitely been a long day
so nite all
and go braves
nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:49 pm
so he ain’t coming out of retirement then??
nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:50 pm
three and one at about that rate TOBF might be Ok, but I am starting to think he will be gone
jbill
November 14th, 2012
10:51 pm
sorry nolie that was 10:34..
Venice Jim
November 14th, 2012
10:53 pm
I had 345 comments on a blog in March, and if you strung them together it would not be as long as the 10:45…
nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:55 pm
where were all those quotes about what Wren supposedly said from earlier today?
nolie
November 14th, 2012
10:56 pm
you is precise and concise VJ, no doubt
Mixxo
November 14th, 2012
10:57 pm
Well lookie here, another couple of ‘attack Mixxo’ posts from nolie & vj. Surprise!
Don’t get me wrong, I like Mac. He’s just not an all-around baseball player, never has been, never will be. A slugger sometimes but, not nearly enough to offset the lack of his other skills. AL material.
And as long as he’s on “my” team (with his buddy Hanson,) I’m going to voice my opinion of him. Deal with it.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 14th, 2012
10:58 pm
Macon radio I believe…. I didnt listen, but he was on with Bill Shanks
nolie
November 14th, 2012
11:02 pm
He’s just not an all-around baseball player, never has been, never will be. …mixxo
yeah sez you, but not really anybody in baseball. but hell what do they know about skills when compared to the great Braves-hater Mixxo the Munificent
ATL Insider
November 14th, 2012
11:05 pm
I’m not crazy about BJ, but if they put him in LF and trade for Span for CF, I think that would be fine. The lineup would look something like this:
CF Span
3B Prado
RF Heyward
2B Uggla
1B Freeman
LF Upton
C. McCann
SS Simmons
Mixxo
November 14th, 2012
11:10 pm
….and don’t give me that “…it’s ok to be a lumbering heap of mass because he’s a catcher…” crap either.
nolie
November 14th, 2012
11:14 pm
almost all catchers are slow, but you wouldn’t know that any more than you know anything else about baseball except what you decide to hate for whatever reason.
richbrave
November 14th, 2012
11:17 pm
Believing the hash I’ve heard from several sources down in Tidewater about the UPTON’S. I’m not crazy about having either of them on the BRAVES. But it’s just scuttle-butt. I don’t personally know either one. The talk reminds me of the conversation I once had with YUNEL ESCOBAR here in RICHMOND regarding his future prospects in ATLANTA. A convo in Spanish which gave me pause as to where his head was at the time.
richbrave
November 14th, 2012
11:19 pm
Did i hear from my chiropractor that TORI HUNTER signed elsewhere today? He works with the FLYING SQUIRRELS.
richbrave
November 14th, 2012
11:22 pm
ncgary
November 14th, 2012
10:43 pm
“…….so wren needs to get this team together cause i might get to stick around and watch em again……”
Now that IS good news. Hang in my man.
Bigwheel
November 14th, 2012
11:30 pm
Being a part time Rays fan, This guy wouldnt fit the Braves
Mold. And paying him big money?! Forget about it!
richbrave
November 14th, 2012
11:42 pm
SOUTH OF THE BORDER
DOMINICA
LICEY TIGERS
3B JUAN FRANCISCO [.333 BA] 2-3, 1 R, 1 RBI [10], 1 BB.
RHSP JULIO TEHERAN [8,31 ERA] 2.0 IP, 5 H, 1 HR, 4 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 0 SO.
MEXICO
HERMOSILLO ORANGES
Lead-off CF TODD CUNNINGHAM [.243 BA] 0-3 top of the sixth.
PUERTO RICO
PONCE LIONS
1B CHRIS GARCIA [.333 BA] 1-2, 1 R, 3 BB, 1 SB [1], 1 SO, 1 E [1, fielding].
VENEZUELA
CARACAS LIONS
RF JOSH KROEGER [.189 BA] 0-4, 1 BB, 1 SO, 1 SB [4].
LARA CARDINALS
PR/RF JORDAN PARRAZ [.160 BA] 0-0.
LHRP LUIS AVILAN [BS 1, L 2-2, 1.23 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R/ER, 1 BB, 1 SO.
ZULIA EAGLES
1B ERNESTO MEJIA [.312 BA] 1-4, 1 R.
DH EVAN GATTIS [.275 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 HR [6], 2 RBI [20]
richbrave
November 14th, 2012
11:47 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
DESERT DOGS
SS NICK AHMED [.288 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 2 3B [3], 1 BB, 1 SO.
C CORY BROWNSTEN [.400 BA] 3-4, 2 R, 1 2B [1], 1 RBI [7].
3B ED SALCEDO [.136 BA] 0-4
richbrave
November 14th, 2012
11:49 pm
See you 1:30 p.m. Saturday down at Zable VJ. A must win for the Spiders.
cabravesfan
November 14th, 2012
11:59 pm
richbrave-
VJ will be watching the USC game on Saturday at about that time (we kick off at noon)
richbrave
November 15th, 2012
12:05 am
Check here. I’ll try some updates during the game
richbrave
November 15th, 2012
12:06 am
NYTOL
cabravesfan
November 15th, 2012
12:06 am
richbrave-
He will most likely be listening on the computer. Good night!
Nowhere man
November 15th, 2012
12:19 am
Struck a nerve with O’brien.
Just stating facts man The main blog as you call it with the music at the end was Oct 22 and then Nov 2 and then Nov 12. Just seeing a ten day pattern and I think Carroll wrote one of those.
Just saying something shouldn’t be called daily if it’s not going to be.
I know it’s your blog.
Nowhere man
November 15th, 2012
12:21 am
The braves need to hold on to Mac. Letting him go would be a big mistake. A healthy Mac makes a huge difference.
Frosted Lucky Charms
November 15th, 2012
12:25 am
So Wren himself said they have had extensive talks with Hamilton and his reps and Bowman says Upton is their #1 target. All I know is Bowman is wrong a lot. May be a smokescreen to drive up price on Upton’s price all the while Wren is working to sign Hamilton. Makes sense as Wren added that payroll is actually higher than anticipated. Hamilton is from Carolina and may take somewhat of a discount to be close to home. If they give Josh 5 years with an option this could get done. A bat like Hamilton is much needed in this line up now with Chipper and Bourn gone plus the fact McCann may be gone as well. Added bonus is Hamilton hits lefties well also. Then Wren can trade for a Span without giving up too much and getting his lead off hitter. I know it a lot of lefties in line up but we still have Prado, Uggla, and Simmons from the right side plus Hamilton Freeman and Heyward who are decent against lefties. That would be a stacked offensive line up.
Venice Jim
November 15th, 2012
12:48 am
And as long as he’s on “my” team (with his buddy Hanson,) I’m going to voice my opinion of him. Deal with it.
And the blog would be a sadder place without your hatred of the Braves and your despicable efforts to pretend that you have any redeeming qualities (as shown by the vile and expletive-laden posts you shared with us before you went on “vacation”)…
But enjoy your misguided efforts to place value in yourself and to excuse your vitriolic hate of Mac and what he means to the Braves while pretending to have any understanding of the game…
Try to convince yourself of the lies you tell if it helps you sleep…
(you could learn a lot from my guy nowhere man)…
Venice Jim
November 15th, 2012
12:49 am
No offense intended…
Nowhere man
November 15th, 2012
12:57 am
I think Mac is the cornerstone and face of the Braves. Not just because of what he has done in the past but what he is capable of in the future.
We have the young talent in Heyward, Freeman, Simmons, Medlen, Kimmer and We need Mac in that leadership role. It is too soon to forget about the silver sluggers and All star appearances and say that his better days are behind him.
David O'Brien
November 15th, 2012
1:25 am
Just finished an Ahmed story I’ll post on Thursday, and will write a Salcedo story for Sunday paper and post it on the blog Friday.
Veer
November 15th, 2012
1:31 am
A lot of the poster’s here are being more informative than DOB. DOB rarely writes new blogs now and during the season he was absent most of the time. Carol was filling in for him. Now you can tell that this guy was part of the Marlins at one point in time. I bet Jeffery traded DOB to Atlanta in a fire sale.
N8
November 15th, 2012
1:34 am
God, some of you just f’n crack me up. Bitch, bitch bitch about signing Upton because we might lose a first round pick.
yet it seems like the same group of people bitching about picks like Gilmartin with our first round pick.
Cracks me up.
i’m not sure if Upton is the answer in CF. Not sure if he’s a leadoff hitter. Not sure if he’ll be any better than Uggla.
But signing a guy likely entering his prime at age 28 for 5 years, probably makes a lot more sense than signing Hunter for 2 years at 26 million. Regardless of giving up a pick or not.
Face facts people. Wren has two holes to fill and likely when all is said and done, the lineup likely will not be any more stacked than it was at the end of last season.
By that i mean, look at the the 3 spots being discussed, who we had in those spots and who we might get.
LF, CF, 3B
Prado, Bourn, Chipper.
How in the hell is Wren going to make the lineup better than with those 3 guys without giving out a ton of cash, and/or prospects or surrendering a draft pick by signing a guy like Upton?
The answer? ….. He’s NOT.
Example. Is say Span in LF and Upton in CF with Prado at 3B any more potent than Chipper, Bourn and Prado?
If he goes all out and signs Hamilton, then there is no money left for the other OF spot, we surrender a draft pick and likely have to trade a pitcher (or a couple of really good pitchers to get a cheap up and coming OF). Or have to settle for a scrap heap player.
Upton shows the fan base (the average, casual fan), that management is “trying” and willing to spend.
Cody Ross makes sense, because reasonably inexpensive, not a long contract and no draft picks. But certainly not a “sexy” signing and certainly not much better than what we had. Denard Span is going to cost Teheran or Delgado. Signing Upton costs a draft pick.
Unless Wren has some under the radar, not remotely being discussed “fix” in line….. I seriously doubt the lineup is “better” than it was last year.
Which is scary, because without Mac for up to a month, we don’t even have Ross to rely on in April.
We simply need to hope Wren can find guys that can at least maintain what production we had last year, while not sacrificing too much future in current prospects, and/or draft picks. And at the same time, pray that Uggla has a monster season or at least starts out hot until Mac comes back and that Simmons has a productive sophomore season, which will be an upgrade over Pastornicky and Janish for over half of our games last year.
God forbid that Prado, Heyward or Freeman miss any major time with injury.
But seriously, who is out there that is NOT going to cost future draft picks, or prospects to sign or trade for, that will actually make our lineup better?
I just don’t see it. Only thing to hope for is balance in the batting order to eliminate completely getting shut down by LHP.
N8
November 15th, 2012
1:45 am
Why is there no discussion about making Uggla the leadoff hitter? Everybody says speed and SB aren’t required for a leadoff hitter. Simply OBP.
.348 OBP last year. It’s not like he’s a middle of the order hitter anymore? Everybody wanted to say what a good year he was having because he was taking walks and getting on base. Why not?
Dude plays hard, ALWAYS runs hard and can score from 1B on doubles, and from 2B on singles.
It’s more silly to lump him in the middle of the order at this point of his career, than it is to ponder that thought.
Bobby started Marcus Giles as his leadoff hitter 244 times, and in 1132 PA as a leadoff hitter, he batted .235 with an OBP of .335.
Uggla had 19 HR last year. Sounds about as close to Marcus Giles as it gets. Maybe batting Uggla leadoff forces him to be more patient and not hack so much? (yeah, I know…..)
David O'Brien
November 15th, 2012
2:23 am
A lot of the poster’s here are being more informative than DOB. DOB rarely writes new blogs now and during the season he was absent most of the time. — Veer
I can’t imagine ever banning this guy, because he is so absurdly over-the-top bitter, it’s great comic relief. Right down to the screen name.
Please continue, Mr. Veer. Your rank comments are priceless.
DS1
November 15th, 2012
2:32 am
Everybody gone to bed?
Any legs to the BJ Upton talk? At least the guy has some pop. Now, if we could get him to be a bit more selective. A Dan Uggla without the walks?
nolie
November 15th, 2012
2:41 am
A Dan Uggla without the walks?
Is there anything much more worthless?
Veer
November 15th, 2012
3:09 am
DOB how is my screen name a comic relief? You taking shots on me because Your old boss traded you during the Marlins fire sale? Most of the Braves rumors have been coming from Bowman and ESPN guys. All you been doing for last month and half is obsess about WILLINGHAM. That isn’t news. WE NEED NEWS!!!
nolie
November 15th, 2012
3:10 am
I think as long as Frank is mentioning names, he is after someone else
nolie
November 15th, 2012
3:13 am
don’t know about your screen name being comic relief, but your posts usually are anyway
funny stuff
DS1
November 15th, 2012
3:17 am
nolie
is there anything more useless?
JC Boscan? Paul Janish?
N8’s comment about putting Uggla in the leadoff spot has me thinking…….
If FW is truly courting BJ, then I’d hope he is also going to deal for Denard Span for CF.
nolie
November 15th, 2012
3:20 am
I’ll believe it when I see it
Ward
November 15th, 2012
3:42 am
Hello everyone! I’ve been looking through rumors, and sports sites, and most likely the Braves haven’t talked about B.J. Upton. and he’s not tagged to the Braves. Latest is Cody Ross which would be an excellent choice if Braves went that way. Sure I would I like the Uptons , but don’t see them going to the Braves.B.J. Upton, and Swisher, and Hamilton all turned down one year offers like the Braves offered Bourn. That should give an idea what the Braves will do. Pagan will sign with the Giants, and that leaves Upton, which I don’t see the Braves trading for. Span could still be out there, Ludwick? Braves are interested in Cody Ross, and that leaves Victorino, or a trade for Span. So there you go.
Ward
November 15th, 2012
3:47 am
I see Cody Ross in LF, Victorino in CF, and prado at 3rd base. Unless something changes? What’s wrong with that? I’m O.K. with that! We must be realistic, and just accept what Wren, gets us. I hope it’s enough…..
Ward
November 15th, 2012
3:51 am
I have at least some hope that Wren, can get us some one! There are out fielders that we don’t know about, so we will have to wait, and see? It’s not easy for me, but I’m making the best of it. Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 15th, 2012
5:20 am
Uggla leading off would be something… Id prefer to hit him 2nd though. Hes done that before and put up his best numbers there. But, he is due to improve a lot to get closer to his career avgs… It him 2nd or 6th and have Prado lead off if necessary.
Teheran still struggling… sigh
Joey G
November 15th, 2012
6:32 am
Uggla leading off may not be a bad idea. Reminds me of Brian Downing leading off for the Angels back in the day.
Sign BJ then trade for Span and Doumit.
old man
November 15th, 2012
7:11 am
Dave:
Two guys are giving you grief. Ignore them.
They obviously don’t get the title. They think it means you post a new story “daily.” Wrong.
It’s like vitamins. You take one every day. You don’t buy them every day. “Daily” means we come on here daily to look at the posts, including yours. So it’s “daily,” get it haters??
What a bunch of maroons.
abeeeewright
November 15th, 2012
7:26 am
Saw some of the details of the fire sale at the marlins. I’m not surprised.
last winter everyone was ga ga over how the marlins were going to be a force with all that FA star power, at least until they declined and were producing bupkiss for high salary.
that’s not going to be the marlins problem now. if they restocked the farm system they might. be back to middle of the pack about the time they’ll unload stanton to avoid him becoming expensive.
i don’t like loria’s approach, but i can see how he’ll make money at this.
old man
November 15th, 2012
7:27 am
N8, maybe we CAN replace what we are losing. In fact, I think it is VERY EASY for us to do that. We’re not replacing Prado, Chipper, and Bourn. Just Chipper and Bourn.
And, in theory Francisco too, because he played some 3B. Even if we consider him as part of a 2013 platoon, we are still replacing his 2012 at bats at 3B.
Lets look at OPS. From memory, Francisco was .790 as a starter. Chipper was around .810, so I’ll say .805 as a combined figure. (Chipper had far more ABs). Just as an example, Cody Ross was .807 with 22 HRs last year. And he ranks very low among regular bloggers here compared to other candidates, although I think he is a smart move. But the point is that its very plausible to replace our 3B bat from last year.
Bourn was .739. Denard Span was .738.
Now, HRs. Chipper and Francisco had 20 as starters. Bourn had 9. We need to get 29 HRs between the two people we bring in. Very attainable in my opinion. Certainly based on my view that Cody Ross platooning with Francisco will get you, very conservatively, .840 and 37 HRs, and that is just replacing one of the bats you have lost.
So I’m quite optimistic.
Jeff R
November 15th, 2012
7:29 am
Just finished an Ahmed story I’ll post on Thursday, and will write a Salcedo story for Sunday paper and post it on the blog Friday.
– DOB
I look forward to the reports.
Jeff R
November 15th, 2012
7:33 am
i don’t like loria’s approach, but i can see how he’ll make money at this.
Yeah, at the expense of the franchise’s competitiveness moving forward, at the expense of Marlins’ fans (who should be fewer and fewer if Loria’s treatment of the Expos is any indication), and south Florida taxpayers, who ponied up for a first class stadium for what is becoming a third-rate team.
Loria needs to be pressured out of the game, but I doubt the commish and the other owners are up to the task.
Jeff R
November 15th, 2012
7:40 am
Certainly based on my view that Cody Ross platooning with Francisco will get you, very conservatively, .840 and 37 HRs, and that is just replacing one of the bats you have lost.
Francisco is a strikeout machine. Ditto Uggla. That’s two too many strike out guys in the lineup.
BravesFanInMaine
November 15th, 2012
7:47 am
I bet we sign bj upton and victorino and Id be happy with that…. Go Braves!
Couch Tater
November 15th, 2012
7:48 am
Unless Wren has some under the radar, not remotely being discussed “fix” in line….. I seriously doubt the lineup is “better” than it was last year.
Hater.
..I agree. The loss of that 40 y/o man is the hardest to replace. Switch hitter in the middle of the lineup capable of putting over the fence. Yeah, his SLG numbers were down the last few years, but that “capable” and ability to put the ball in play remained.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 15th, 2012
7:53 am
Juan, like Uggla, is a power threat but does K a lot. Unlike Uggla, he doesnt walk. really dislike those types of players, especially if they arent a prim defender in a premium defensive position. When juan starts hitting like crap (more likely to happen than not) his OBP will make BJ’s .298 look good! Uggla OBPd 130 points better than his avg. Thats wy he remained productive. Juans OBP is closer to being30 points better than his avg. And his stas will get worse with moee playing time because of his high BABIP against lefties
Couch Tater
November 15th, 2012
7:56 am
I don’t know if “capable and able” is evidence and reason, but Chipper’s wRC+ was 126.
ncscoots – Is 126 good? I’m lazy.
old man
November 15th, 2012
7:58 am
richbrave:
I see your post last night, but I see no mention of Francisco in the Licey box scores from 11/9 to 11/13. Instead I see Hernandez and Olt at 3B. Is your post from 11/14? I suppose it must be, and we should all note that you indicated NO STRIKEOUTS. Mark this date on your calendars!
Any word on his absence? Injury? Earring suspension?
Jack Clompus
November 15th, 2012
8:10 am
Again, we don’t need druggies with chaperones and fat aging free agents. These fat FAs are just out to get the last big paycheck and rarely add enough meaningful value.
Jack Clompus
November 15th, 2012
8:19 am
As most of you clamor to add fat FAs to make a championship run remember the club couldn’t make it with the legendary Chipper and McCann in their primes. How adding a couple of fat FAs to the current lineup—-without the legendary Chipper and McCann—-well, you get the drift. A smart trade here and there, and a strong player pipeline from the farm system is how you sustain a consistantly competitve ball club………with a smart FA acquisition peppered in…….and not risky drug addicts and 36 year-old FAs. But, you don’t load up with a bunch of these clowns during 1 offseason and cure all ills at once.
TennesseePaul
November 15th, 2012
8:24 am
but everyone else did receive a qual offer. At least the ones I said would
Ef, there’s no fun in that statement. No fun at all. For whatever reason you had Macier receiving a qual offer and pegged to be in the running for left field masher. You were just so giddy for the hot-stove to heat up you were shooting wildly in all directions.
old man
November 15th, 2012
8:25 am
Here are our leaders in wRC+ (in 2012), 100 is MLB average. I think it is something like “runs created per at bat, adjusted to a scale of 100 as an MLB average, and adjusted for ballparks played in by that player.” Close? Here they are:
Chipper Jones 126
Jason Heyward 120
Martin Prado 116
Freddie Freeman 115
David Ross 109
Michael Bourn 103
Andrelton Simmons 102
Juan Francisco 88
Brian McCann 86
Reed Johnson 71
Tyler Pastornicky 65
So we had 7 players above average, and we have lost 3 of them. Ouch.
Rick Of Roy
November 15th, 2012
8:36 am
Yeah Uggla leading off would be brilliant.. Automatic out to start things off ?
I’m surprised there’s no blogs about Cody Ross since other news sources are reporting Braves trying hard to sign their new Ross ?
Wren’s gonna sit back while the best free agents get signed and the Braves settle for Schafer & Constanza in CF & LF…
Rolf
November 15th, 2012
8:39 am
With the big Marlins trade, I was curious about our 2012 record. Looks like ATL went 14-4 against the Fish. On an interesting note, we went 3-1 vs. Johnson, but in those three victories Johnson gave up no more than 3 runs and the fish were shut out twice….. I am not going to miss Johnson in the division.
Rick Of Roy
November 15th, 2012
8:41 am
Uglla gets paid to hit homers & drive in runs but walks a lot. That’s like hiring a QB to pass to 2 Pro Bowl wide receivers then all he does is hand the ball off to running backs…
David O'Brien
November 15th, 2012
8:50 am
From ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick on Twitter: An NL scout on new #marlins shortstop Yunel Escobar: “This guy makes Hanley Ramirez look like Teammate of the Year.”
old man
November 15th, 2012
8:57 am
wRC+, 2012:
Cody Ross 113
Cody Ross versus lefties, 164
Juan Francisco versus righties 103
70/30 Ross Francisco platoon 121.3
Giancarlo Stanton 156 [wow, maybe we should check him out, part with some real talent]
Andrew McCutchen 158
Melky Cabrera 146 [somebody could get a deal here]
Josh Willingham 143 [I would not fuss about this one bit]
David Wright 140 [surprised he is this high]
Josh Hamilton 140 [surprised he is this low]
Ryan Ludwick 133 [surprised he is this high]
Shin-Soo Choo 131
Torii Hunter 130
Nick Swisher 128 [makes him sound expensive]
Alex Gordon 126 [I wonder how close he and Josh Hamilton will be in 2013]
Chipper Jone 126
Bourn was 103, here are some CFers, not in the above list:
Dexter Fowler 123 [wow, this is a park adjusted stat???? we need to examine that.]
Jon Jay 116 [not bad]
Eric Young 115
Angel Pagan 113 [now more convinced we don't need to spend on hiim]
BJ Upton 107 [not helpful to BJ lovers. that doesn't sound good does it? OK, BJ promoters]
Craig Gentry 105
Denard Span 105 [ugh. gives one pause on that idea]
Michael Bourn 103
That was fun. Any thoughts?