Ross exit adds to Braves’ expanding to-do list

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:11 pm

one of life’s little lessons for us…things can always be worse

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:11 pm

Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick
Players involved in #bluejays #marlins trade still have to take physicals. So it probably won’t be official for a while.

That’ll take a while!

BFChris28

November 13th, 2012
7:12 pm

Juan C. Rodriguez ‏@JCRMarlinsbeat

Redmond might end up managing the same team he had in Dunedin last season. #marlins #bluejays

Steve from OH

November 13th, 2012
7:14 pm

Holy cow. The Marlins being the Marlins.

How is Loria not in jail?

Trader Jack

November 13th, 2012
7:16 pm

yup nolie, add David Glass to that list

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:16 pm

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
Massive deal is in the works, but you would assume MLB is going to take a hard look because of long-term ramifications for MIA market.

Yea, right.

Bama Braves

November 13th, 2012
7:17 pm

Well The Cheap Braves Wont Finish Last Next Year Thank you Marlins…..

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:17 pm

MIA market? Who is Missing In Action, they have all been traded…

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:18 pm

weren’t gonna finish near last anyway

flange1

November 13th, 2012
7:19 pm

I can’t believe this trade is going to hold up!

The franchise needs to be out of Loria’s hands and out of Miami.

After this trade or attempted trade, that just might happen…

mike mangan

November 13th, 2012
7:19 pm

Everybody clap your hands,Jose Reyes,Josh Johnson,Mark Buerhle,John Buck and Emilio Bonafacio are Toronto Bound for Yunel Escobar and a plethora of prospects.Maybe we can pry Buck away from our neighbors to the North he would be a great back up as he has power and can throw..Still think Dexter Fowler would look great wearing # 24 in a Braves uniform…

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:21 pm

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm
Blue Jays new lineup: Reyes SS Bonifacio 2B Bautista RF Encarnacion 1B Lawrie 3B Rasmus CF D’Arnaud C Lind DH Arencibia C #contender

That is just…. oh my, that’s good. Come on Frank, get Upton or Stanton!

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:21 pm

gotta admit that I won’t miss having to play against those guys

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:23 pm

Wren prolly has a huge smile on his face , they Fish just got a lot worse and we are ignoring him for a bit

Soph

November 13th, 2012
7:26 pm

Fish doing what they do best, I see. This is why I don’t gripe about our ownership.

George_George

November 13th, 2012
7:26 pm

The Scout

November 13th, 2012
6:43 pm
Jordan Schafer will look good in spring training and win the CF job.

By June 1st he’ll be down to .200
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Sad but most likely true. I like the kid. But if he does not hit we also have GEORGIE.

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
7:28 pm

Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that the Blue Jays have acquired Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson, Mark Buerhle, Emilio Bonifacio and John Buck from the Marlins in exchange for Yunel Escobar, Adeiny Hechavarria, Henderson Alvarez, Jake Marisnick and Justin Nicolino.

Wow. Speechless.

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:29 pm

anybody who claims that Schafer will start in CF is either incredible stupid or most likely just trying to start something

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:30 pm

Bowman….

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
Makes some sense. There would still be a desire to get a player who could make a greater impact @jcod82us interested in OF Cody Ross?

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
Cody Ross has killed LHPs and been OK vs. RHPs. If necessary, could occasionally put Prado in LF and Francisco at 3B vs. RHPs

Like Cody’s gonna come here to be part of a platoon… or that paying him 8mil and then platooning him would be smart

Disgusted

November 13th, 2012
7:30 pm

I do not feel sorry for Miami or the Muts cause I do not feel sorry for division rivals.

At least we will not finsh any worse than third no matter what happens in off season.

Cody Ross is not my number one choice, but you can do worse for LF.

CF and BU catcher is next in line.

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:31 pm

we coulda used some of them guys, why didn’t Loria contact us. Wren prolly turned it down I bet……

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:31 pm

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Asked official with one of clubs if he has any concern that commissioner might kill the deal. His response: “None at all.”

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:32 pm

you a cold sumbeach Disgusted…

Mixxo

November 13th, 2012
7:32 pm

Peter
November 13th, 2012
5:50 pm

Can someone name a top available baseball player……. WANTING to come to Atlanta ?

Finally, an excellent question.

I can’t.

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:33 pm

The approval may come tonight

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:33 pm

as if either of you would know one way or the other

Jake W.

November 13th, 2012
7:35 pm

Giancarlo ,or whatever his name is, the hitter formally known as Mike should be allowed to seek asylum. Why not Atlanta?

MIBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:37 pm

The Marlins’ ownership is a punch line. Actually, the punch line. It doesn’t matter what the joke is.

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:38 pm

several folks on here should get a good Psych text and read about themselves, could start with class clown syndrome……

George_George

November 13th, 2012
7:40 pm

DAVEY JOHNSON for MGR OF YEAR. FREDI improved his MGR skills somewhat, but 5 extra wins should NOT give him consideration for MGR OF YEAR,do y’all want me to have a heart attack?

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
7:41 pm

How can Loria be allowed to do this?

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:42 pm

prolly bribed Bud already

BFChris28

November 13th, 2012
7:42 pm

Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1

2 execs spoke to already said this: Ricky Nolasco will be next to go from #Marlins

ccrider

November 13th, 2012
7:42 pm

Well, Anyway you look at the Marlins firesale, it surely will help the Nationals, Braves and Phillies to get the wild card slots!

VaBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:43 pm

Hard to believe trades like that can happen, same goes for the RedSox-Dodgers deal.

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
7:44 pm

There is no chance at all that Selig kills this deal. Buster again with just some strange logic.

D$1

November 13th, 2012
7:44 pm

class clown syndrome

You talking about me again…

BFChris28

November 13th, 2012
7:45 pm

Juan C. Rodriguez ‏@JCRMarlinsbeat

Source: #Marlins chipping in $4 million, getting back CF Jake Marisnick and RHP Anthony DeSclafani among others. #bluejays

BFChris28

November 13th, 2012
7:45 pm

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi

Jeff Mathis to the #Marlins, according to the Hall of Famer @elliottbaseball.

VaBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:45 pm

I’d be pretty disappointed if Cody Ross turns out to be the RH power bat for LF we seek. He’s a borderline everyday player to me, I actually like Pagan more but he’ll be overpaid as well.

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:47 pm

I mean come on Loria, it can’t hurt that much to trade Stanton. He’s pizzed just like Uggla was! Just sukks that he’s still cheap for them. He’ll be staying around

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
7:47 pm

On the Miami side of things – Escobar will play SS, Hechavarria will play 2B, Henderson Alveraz will go right into their rotation.

Marisnick is a very good OF prospect(Top 100 overall) and Nicolino is a solid mid rotation starting pitching prospect.

Bigwheel

November 13th, 2012
7:47 pm

Im just so shocked these new Miami Marlins would blow up a team. It just seems so surreal.

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:49 pm

The Fish are clearing money so they can add ARod and still stay under 50mil for payroll… Yanks won’t have to eat any money!!!

VaBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:49 pm

Total rebuild for the Marlins, who would have thought this would have happened… But they got a ton of commitments off the books and picked up some young talent.

VaBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:50 pm

Stanton’s Twitter

@Giancarlo818 “Alright, I’m pissed off!!! Seriously!”

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
7:52 pm

I think Cots Baseball Contracts site is down because everyone is looking for those payroll numbers…..hah.

Bigwheel

November 13th, 2012
7:52 pm

Hey, I need Joe Simpsons reaction. Can someone please find Joe Simpson??

VaBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:53 pm

Boy that would be something if Stanton demanded a trade as well, of course he really doesn’t have any control in that matter but if he becomes a negative to there team its possible. But wow, could you imagine the package of players they could get for Stanton?

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:54 pm

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
Trade needs commish approval since there are bucks involved (not just john buck). Seen as likely to approve. #jays #fish

Giancarlo needs to keep tweeting… start calling Loria names, say the FO sukks, the team is a joke, you wanna go to Atlanta, come on man!

If the Marlins need some OF/2B help, I’m available…

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
7:55 pm

Sounds like Reyes is still up in the air…..deal changes quite a bit if he isn’t in that deal.

VaBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
7:57 pm

This whole deal has to be a negative on the Marlins, what top flight free agents are gonna wanna sign with them over the next few years? Realistically they could have kept the team intact with some minor improvements and would still have a good team, really just needed to get rid of the crazy manager.

nolie

November 13th, 2012
7:57 pm

they trade Stanton too and the town will burn the stadium down……

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
7:57 pm

Stanton could demand a trade all he wants….not going to change anything.

He should just shut down all extension talks though. That ain’t happening and no free agent is ever going to sign in Miami again.

Heath

November 13th, 2012
7:58 pm

DOB missing this to watch his Jayhawks in person tonight, right?

nolie

November 13th, 2012
8:01 pm

ah they said that last time and free agents signed since

VaBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:02 pm

Efrim

Your right about that. They really screwed themselves. From a franchise standpoint Stanton is there most valuable asset, atleast in my opinion. They’ll have no shot at extending him and he’s just gonna have huge ARB salaries until he’s a free agent. I could also see this being pissed off mood stick and be a problem in the club house throughout the season.

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
8:04 pm

Cots is down right now – but I believe….

Johnson – one years, $13.75
Reyes – five years, $92 million($10 million in 2013)
Buerhle – three years, $49 million($10 million in 2013)
Buck – one year $6.5 million
Bonifacio – $4 million through arbitration – controlled through 2014

Jays added $40 million in payroll for 2013 alone. Wow.

Disgusted

November 13th, 2012
8:05 pm

you a cold sumbeach Disgusted…

@Nolie — “I knooooowwwww” Hesh Hesh Hesh Hesh!!!!!!!!!!

Aren’t I Rotten?????? Just like my fav rock singer of All-Time Johnny Rotten.

Jeff R

November 13th, 2012
8:05 pm

The potential Miami-Toronto blockbuster. Miami – what a laughable, pathetic franchise led by the boobish Jeff Loria.

nolie

November 13th, 2012
8:06 pm

I didn’t expect it to be in one huge deal but after last season I did expect them to dump more high dollar players, I’m betting the players had a fair idea what would likely happen this winter

VaBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:08 pm

Hell, Wren should call Loria up and ask if he’s trading Stanton too…lol Just imagine a Prado/Heyward/Stanton/Freeman heart of the order… Man o Man… lol

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
8:08 pm

ah they said that last time and free agents signed since

I guess time heals all wounds, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a trade like this…..

….oh wait – just did this past August.

Except that with this deal, the Blue Jays just got a lot, a lot better with this deal. They gave up three good prospects(Marisnick, Nicolino, Hechavarria) from their system and Alveraz, Escobar and Mathis – but I don’t think they they will miss any of em except for Marisnick.

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:08 pm

AA for Executive of the Year if this thing works out… gotta think that they’d be considered heavily to win the AL East…

According to Morosi, Acta could possibly be a good candidate for next manager in TOR. He’s been linked to the job there and was a Mets coach while Reyes was there

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
8:11 pm

Joe Sheehan @joe_sheehan: I don’t think this is over. I feel like AA could pull a Napoli with Johnson and flip him for full value.

I could see that too. Love AA. Wish he was on our side…..

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:12 pm

ricky nolasco ‏@RNolasco47
Huh?…….

Trade em all…

VaBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:12 pm

Julio Teheran, Christian Bethancourt, Sean Gilmartin, Joey Terdo, Edward Salcedo, and Matt Lipka

for

Giancarlo Stanton

hell with it… lol, Honestly they’d probably say no to that offer anyways

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:13 pm

Simmons for Stanton!

Anyone? Anyone?

Disgusted

November 13th, 2012
8:13 pm

Loria = Terrible Owner

Liberty Media = Mediocre Ownership group

Wilpon = Does not know what he is doing so it seems.

At least our corporate ownership knows what its doing — not a lick of passion for the game or its fans, care enough to keep the team respectable for the sake of business and team value.

But, we know what they are, & they do leave the baseball operation alone.

Could be worse. PR wise, the team is run quite honestly. Not the people’s choice but we sort of know what to expect.

How long $90 or so million will be a mid tiered payroll is anyone’s guess — lots of $$$$$$$ floating around the game and player talent will get more expensive.

Could Jey Hey be a $35 mil player when he is 28????? Not out of the question the way the business of this game is going.

Imagine Trout and Harper being 50-75 mil per yr guys when they hit 30 or so ??????? Who knows??????

Disgusted

November 13th, 2012
8:15 pm

Simmons for Stanton!

I don’t know about that TOBF. Maybe not.

BFChris28

November 13th, 2012
8:15 pm

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi

The deal, unofficially: Johnson, Buehrle, Reyes, Bonifacio, Buck for Escobar, Hechavarria, Alvarez, Nicolino, Marisnick, Mathis, DeSclafani.

Disgusted

November 13th, 2012
8:16 pm

That was funny VA Braves fan.

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
8:17 pm

SS Reyes, CF Rasmus, RF Bautista, 1B Encarnacion, 3B Lawrie, 2B Bonifacio, C Arencibia, DH Lind/Buck, LF Gose

SP Johnson,SP Buerhle, SP Romero, ….,…..

Jays still need bullpen arms and a starter or two. All of their great prospects are further down in the system. Still a great haul.

Disgusted

November 13th, 2012
8:17 pm

That is some deal BF Chris.

Got to look at those guys comming back from Toronto — don’t know alot about em.

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:19 pm

Farrell’s probably wishing he didn’t leave

Gone Viral

November 13th, 2012
8:19 pm

Wikipedia just had an entry as: “Jeffrey H. Loria (born November 20, 1940) is an art dealer, noted cheapskate, and the owner of the Miami Marlins.”

VaBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:20 pm

Efrim

If Loria announced that he’s open to trading Stanton, wouldn’t every single team be interested and the Marlins could get a huge franchise changing return for him. Add the talent they could get for him with the talent they just got from the Jays and they’d have 1 helluva system.

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:20 pm

I’d swap Rasmus and Bonifacio, Efrim. No way is Rasmus hitting 2nd

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
8:20 pm

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
Cody Ross has killed LHPs and been OK vs. RHPs. If necessary, could occasionally put Prado in LF and Francisco at 3B vs. RHPs

The team isn’t giving Cody Ross a multi year deal for $25 million to be a platoon player. If so, Wren needs to have his head checked.

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
8:22 pm

Braves would not have a chance to obtain Stanton if he was made available. The teams with the best systems in the sport would be after him – Texas, St. Louis, Arizona, etc. Braves would not have enough, imo.

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:23 pm

From a Jays fan, when asked if the team gave up a lot of top prospects…

haha no like our 5th and 6th best prospects thats it our third best P prospect and our #2 OF prospect

Gone Viral

November 13th, 2012
8:24 pm

Bonifacio makes some sense for us if the Bluejays are willing to flip him.

BFChris28

November 13th, 2012
8:24 pm

My take is that Blue Jays win the trade now, but Marlins will be set in the future, but now Marlins will face backlash.

The great gets for Marlins are Henderson Alvarez, Anthony DeSclafani, Jake Marisnick & Justin Nicolin. Yunel is Yunel and the other SS will play 2B for Marlins, but those I just mentioned are likely to become cornerstones for the Marlins in the future.

Mathis is a solid get for C for now.

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:25 pm

Bowman’s just a fool, Efrim… I can’t believe he really suggested a platoon w/ Ross. That would not be happening, and to pay him 8mil to do so is stupid.

ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo
Reported Marlins-Blue Jays trade means MIA will have traded 12 of 25 players from 2012 opening day roster, including entire starting infield

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
TOR GM Alex Anthopoulos told a friend last week that he was working on a pie-in-the-sky trade that he didn’t think would happen. But it did.

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
8:26 pm

I’d swap Rasmus and Bonifacio, Efrim. No way is Rasmus hitting 2nd

Honestly, I’d probably hit Lawrie 2nd. But who knows. I’ll leave the lineup out of it…

C Arencibia/Buck
1B Encarnacion
2B Bonifacio
SS Reyes
3B Lawrie
LF Gose/Davis
CF Rasmus
RF Bautista
DH Lind/Buck

They still have a lot of assets, and D’Arnaud will be ready at some point in 2013. I’d bet AA is not nearly done in his trades. Toronto is still a starter short – Johnson, Buerhle Morrow, Romero – and they need some bullpen arms. Still a great haul and a very good roster.

Efrim

November 13th, 2012
8:29 pm

Well, the Marlins have a nice Top 5 in their system now at least…..

Jose Fernandez, Christian Yelich, Jake Marisnick, J.T. Realmuto, and Justin Nicolino. Not too bad…..

VaBravesFan

November 13th, 2012
8:29 pm

Blue Jays are challenging for the division, pretty exciting stuff. Hopefully Wren has some surprises for us as well. We’ve lost Chipper, Bourn is very likely gone, and now David Ross a fan favorite is gone. McCann is gonna miss some of the season. Wren has around 25 million to play with and enough pitching to make a trade or 2.

AtlantaMelo

November 13th, 2012
8:30 pm

Random thoughts…

DOB thanks for the great piece, ubbelivable number of responses.

WREN AND FREDDI HATERS give it a rest. 94M budget, injuries, etc…94 wins, GOOD JOB.

ROSSY gonna miss ya, best of luck to you, you deserve the money, should be starting somewhere.

How bout picking up both of the UPTONS fill in a few back ups and call it a day.

Love MARTIN, but it wouldn’t be bad if we could get a masher at third, say Tori in center Martin in left

WORRIED about LONG RANGE with MAC planning to bring BETANCOURT up early?

I think DELGADO is ready for a big year. Great stuff, less nerves this year.

Once again DOB thanks, looking forward to seeing what Frank does with a little budget to work with. Can’t wait to read deals as they happen. Looking forward to great year.