11:30 am November 10, 2012, by David O'Brien
November 11th, 20126:08 pm
Mac doesn’t work hard. He’s always been naturally gifted and lazy. I say cut ties with him and let’s hope Bethancourt can come around with the bat fairly quickly.
Mac’s best years are behind him. Now let’s watch him get fat and decline in pinstripes.
BFIN’ville; (Hope u don’t mind w/abbrev.’s)But thanks, & man I’m feel’n “oblivilated”(If there is such a word) or oblivious that Dang! the Bird’s lose to N’orlens, didn’t want to see that happen’n, & I feel like an old Goat ramm’n his head up against a tree cause of the frustration of being a Die-Hearted Brave fan. But other than that, It would be a honor to hook up, & I’m try’n to hang on w/ good perspective about this BFIN, always try to stay good on some potential moves that might jump start this team to stay strong contenders. Hope’n for someth’n “BIG”!
November 11th, 20126:13 pm
Everyone in the Braves front office knows more about the Braves plan and their team then anyone on this blog. Not everyone understands this…
November 11th, 20126:18 pm
@74bravesjersey I do too. But as long as you got”pretty” Wren for a GM, it will not happen. He got his money and an extension so does he care. Afraid not. My hair is prettier than his and I CARE.
Is there another Buster Posey-type here in GA.? He gotta younger Brother as good of a backstop as him in H.S. tearing it up somewhere?
November 11th, 20126:26 pm
Why don’t you GM for us. Pretty boy Wren is DONE.
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November 11th, 20126:49 pm
Fan since 1977………. Ross’s salary in 2012 was actually $1.6 million not $750k. He was the 20th highest paid catcher in the game last year. He almost doubled his pay in Boston not increased it by 400 %. He was VERY well paid for 9 HR and 23 RBI. In fact you can find 8 catchers with more than 30RBI that were paid under $1 Million and 4 of those are at the league minimum!
David Ross is a great player and great dude but he was NOT underpaid by league standards.
November 11th, 20126:54 pm
Ross is a great team guy, talented back up and at 36 deserves to get whatever money he can before he retires….good luck to him. He will certainly be missed.
That said I am over the grief. Lets get on with recruiting the best team we can…..don’t forget aussie Moylan…he’s a must!
McCann has to step up and lead on the field and in the club house. Bring the young guys up and give them a chance. Recruiting another aged guy is probably not going to be any good for 3 weeks.
November 11th, 20127:30 pm
The Braves should have traded McCann, kept Ross, and pocketed the difference so they could get a front line catcher. McCann now is at his peak value.
November 11th, 20127:36 pm
Let Ross go? Why?
Why? Oh, what in this world is Wren thinking? Oh, no!
Too cheap to keep Bourn or Ross. And Chipper’s gone/retired.
……It’s starting to look bad, real bad.
November 11th, 20127:37 pm
Fire Wren Now!! No room for pretty boys and JERKS
November 11th, 20127:44 pm
@BFIN’ville; I told my daughter about you, & she attended the GA. Country awards last night, & wanted to know how to get in touch, (How do we do this?) Do you have face book?
November 11th, 20127:50 pm
@74braves jersey Good luck to your daughter. but for now catch you some where down the line. Good nite from New South Wales, Lov ya. Go Braves!!!
November 11th, 20128:06 pm
@BravesFanInNashville; gotta run, take it easy. Selah!
November 11th, 20128:21 pm
Ross just finished a two year deal worth $750k per, so I don’t blame him for taking a 400 percent raise. — Fan since 1977
No, he just finished a two-year deal worth $1.625 million per year.
November 11th, 20128:43 pm
74bravesjersey……. good talking with you.. see you soon on the blog. hopefully some good news by then..
November 11th, 20128:45 pm
74bravesjersey.. if your daughter has a Facebook just let me know what that is and I’ll send her my company info.. thanks… and goodnight..
November 11th, 20128:47 pm
DOB… Exactly I pointed that out to Fan Since 1977 at 6:49 tonight.. Thanks for the back up on that.
November 11th, 20128:58 pm
DOB….. didn’t mean that last comment to sound anything but grateful for what you do. It’s hard to tell tone in a post so looking back on what I wrote it could have been interpreted as cocky but I didn’t mean it that way. Just appreciative for the detail you provide us..
November 11th, 20128:59 pm
Rumor has it that we did not want any nerds in the lockeroom. Look for the braves to go sign as many uga dawgs as possible. Jeff kipperman will be our new backup infielder and could be our starting second baseman
Laughing out Loud
November 11th, 20129:11 pm
Don’t think Henry Blanco was ever a Brave…perhaps, you’re thinking of Gregor Blanco, an out fielder, who played for one of the post season teams. You guys slay me with laughter with your wild, stupid predictions, name calling, hating and never spending any money to buy tickets etc. If you don’t buy a ticket or support the team in anyway what gives you the right to criticize, nme call and declare any one “old, sick, blind” or stupid…..Stupid is calling any one on the Braves team or staff stupid or any other name. There will be a Braves team that will compete for the NL championship and hence the world series next season. Don’t sell them short! Go Braves!
November 11th, 20129:18 pm
Laughing Out Loud….. Henry Blanco is a catcher and was a Brave in 2002 and 2003. He played for the Diamondbacks last year.
I agree with you that the Braves will field a competitive team next year. They have a great pitching staff and a core of star young players and lots of payroll room to support them.
November 11th, 20129:21 pm
I have something in common with the Braves. They don’t care enough if I don’t come to their games and I don’t either.
November 11th, 20129:53 pm
Here’s a trade idea. McCann and Hanson and Gilmartin to the Yankees for ARod and Russel Martin. The Yankees pay enough salary for ARod to cost the Braves only $5 to $8 Million per year. He’s going to brake the home run record anyway so why not have him do it in a Braves uniform. We can still keep Fransisco at this price and have him spell ARod. against tough right handers and just when he needs a rest. We then trade Uggla to the Dodgers for Ethier. We have our right handed bats in ARod and Russell Martin We dump Uggla’s salary and can move Prado back to 2B. Now we trade for Denard Span and we have our leadoff hitter a tough defense up the middle with Prado back at 2B and Martin is better defensively than McCann. We’d save ton’s of salary room either not make the trade for Span and sign Victorino or go after Hamilton or Grienke.
November 11th, 20129:54 pm
Good riddance The red sox are great at throwing good money at bad deals.The braves will survive and move on without him . They need to get rid of some of no hitting overachievers any way
November 11th, 201210:29 pm
@BravesFanInNashville all of those trades sound good but very unlikely except for the Span trade. And just fyi I’m pretty sure Russel Martin is a free agent so there’s no need to trade for him when we can just sign him.. I think a McCann, Hanson and Zeke Spruill for A-rod with us only paying $5 to $8 Million like you said.. An Uggla trade seems pretty unlikely and besides he’ll most likely rebound next year and hit .245-.250 with 30HRs like he has done throughout his career
November 11th, 201210:47 pm
Ross was solid………………….The guy he backed up was not up to par this year. Why let Ross get away with that knowledge??
November 11th, 201210:51 pm
Do you think Braves will give UGGl’s 39 million (what left on his contract 3 years) for Either’s 5 years 85 million contract..I don’t believe so.
November 11th, 201211:02 pm
I believe more fans like Ross than MaCann….I remember when “Brett Butler” was traded and fans went crazy..
November 11th, 201211:14 pm
Brave Miami…. You’re right Martin is a free agent. I mistakenly thought the Yankees had a team option on him like Ruiz in Philly.
jbill… probably true about the Braves not wanting Ethier’s contract. Let’s hope you’re right and Uggla bounces back to his career norms.
November 11th, 201211:49 pm
Chipper retires that’s fine, Bourn wants too much money & strikes out too much & leaves, that’s fine, Ross is allowed to leave so we now have a another huge hole at catcher, not so fine! Now we have 3 holes to fill, McCann won’t do anything until after the break, what say you FW? I say we’re in trouble, we have 3 players in Prado , Heyward, & Freeman, then what? Better dig deep FW I’m not paying to watch the same old can’t score any runs BS!!!!!!
November 12th, 201212:42 am
“Stupid is calling any one on the Braves team or staff stupid……”
I’ll just stop you right there. Because stupid is not knowing one of Greg Maddux’s personal catchers, and then being stupid enough to assume that the person was talking about Gregor Blanco.
But proceed with all the knowledge. It’s entertaining.
November 12th, 201212:43 am
Really Braves management (and I use that term loosely), just fold up the damned tents and go to some idiot city that is silly enough to show the slightest interest in your Pittsburgh Pirates baseball modus operandi.
Tired of the excuses, and the non-stop whining about how the “…economics of baseball stink.”
Y’all stink. Get the hell out of here.
November 12th, 20126:48 am
time for the Fredi & Frank duo to take its worn out act elsewhere …
November 12th, 20127:13 am
Ross will be missed but come on folks HE IS A BACK-UP CATCHER. He is not an allstar. He is not one of the best players on the team. He is a good guy who started every 4th or 5th day and had some good hits. I like Ross, and hate to see him go, but again, HE IS A BACK-UP CATCHER. Braves can fill that spot with a veteran free agent. Not a big loss. HE IS A BACK-UP CATCHER!
November 12th, 20128:17 am
Bummer. Best wishes to Ross in Beantown. Yes, try Gattis.
November 12th, 20128:25 am
Chipper : his bat & leadership RETIRED
Bourn: our leadoff hitter, great gloveman & speed GONE
Ross: great backup catcher & right-handed bat off the bench GONE
Our big acquisition so far is Jordan Schafer, who hit a whopping .211 for the minor league Astros. Schafer was brought in as “insurance” for the outfield.
Frank Wren has some work to do, and hopefully it won’t be in the dumpster rescuing rejects and castoffs.
November 12th, 20128:34 am
I don’t get it- We have a mid market payroll yet even the lowly San Diego Padre’s sold for 700 million- I believe liberty media got the Braves for 350 million- You have to think the braves and their powerful minor league system are 1 million plus-
Why not invest a few more million here and there?
This seems like a devastating loss clubhouse and performance wise considering Mccann’s injuries over the years.
November 12th, 20128:36 am
“David Ross is a great player and……………..”
If he were great he’d be a starter and this alone doesn’t make any player great. And those who trumpet Ross as ‘a great team guy’ don’t really know other than what is written in these columns. C’mon, folks, just a backup catcher.
November 12th, 20128:42 am
Good Mornin’ BravesFanInNashville; use this;Hannah McBrayer(facebook) the only one in Ga. she knows of,pleasure talk’n to ya as well,she will respond back. Love to hear from ya sir.
November 12th, 20128:45 am
Loss of Ross just makes Braves very weak at one more position. I expect McCann to come back and still be weak defensively and hit about .240..so, there will be no production from this position. Ross also called an excellent game, so this will also impact pitchers. Braves aren’t looking too good for next year.
November 12th, 20128:53 am
@Jbill; Yeah, I was devastated over the Brett Butler trade, also lost a phenom to be for few seasons, 3B – Brook Jacoby, and a pitcher, Rick Behenna, all three for who? a used car salesman here in atlanta somewhere, all because he threw 1 perfect game, mabey 1 or 2 winning seasons, but didn’t even cut mustard w/ the Braves – Len Barker
November 12th, 20128:59 am
can’t believe…no Chipper…nio Ross…No Bourn.. man what a bad off season…gonna have tough time putting fans in the seats..
November 12th, 20129:27 am
Man there’s the anticipation each new day, what’s gonna’ happen next, but due to bein’ in constraint’s, bein’ limited to manuever for a trade, course the price of free agency goes through the roof for any high impact player, (except for the Have’s – high market teams, Dodgers probably be the new kids on top of the ‘Gett’n Pile), but teams limited like our Bravos, hard to be aggresive. But I do commend that our team has done as well as it has in the midst of these limits & constraints, to be competitive.
November 12th, 20129:28 am
Some of you so-called “fans” need to wake up and smell the coffee. All this whining and crying about a back-up catcher is ludicrous. A good backup catcher, nothing else, and one that will be 36 years old before the start of next season. Complain about the front office if they don’t fill that void, but you just don’t pay that kind of money to a 36 year old backup who averaged 57 games a year. Of course, blaming Fredi Gonzalez is the easy way out for the bashers. Yeech! Some of you people need lives.
November 12th, 201210:03 am
74bravesjersey…Brett Butler was a Super Braves player on and off field. Butler now 55 is manager for The Reno Aces (a affiliate of Diamondbacks) who won the Pacific Coast League Championship Series against the Omaha Storms Chasers.The Aces defeated the Pawtucket RedSox 10-3 to win the Triple- A Championship game.. Butler played 17 years in ML..1991 All-Star game..career hit 290BA, 2375 hits, 558 steals, Toward the end of his career he was diagnosed with throat Cancer 1998-99..then in 2001 he had prostate cancer which he also survived. Then in 2007 he had a mild stroke which he has over come..He is a fighter. Butler started Managing in minor league in 2004 and has always been a winner. But most important he is a great example for his faith, character, fighter,and winner. A CANCER SURVIVOR!!!!!!!!!!
Would love to see him Coach are managing for Braves.
November 12th, 201210:13 am
Oh, wow, what a massive collection of over-reactions. I will miss David Ross and am disappointed he did not re-sign, but it makes all the sense in the world to pass on guaranteeing 6 million/2 yrs to a 36 yr old back up catcher, even if he is currently the best back-up in baseball.
The biggest thing, though, is that this will probably give Evan Gattis some AB’s and I am very excited about that. Many have said Gattis’ bat is close to ML-ready right now and the front office has been dying to find a way to fit him into the lineup. His defense needs work, but he won’t be our starter all season and it sounds like he’s not shy about putting in the work necessary to improve. No matter how you slice it, Evan Gattis will be one of the better story lines in all of baseball next season and we’re going to have front row seats. So, as sad as it is to see Ross go, there are so many reasons to be excited about the man that could end up taking his place.
November 12th, 201210:23 am
Ross I will miss. Wren will make the right moves to fill the position. I’m glad for ROSS..he is a great person and it couldn’t have happen to a better person…its a step up for Ross with that 6 million contract..when it come right down to it family comes first…its a business!
November 12th, 201210:24 am
The rich can afford to pay for good depth. I hate the Yankees and Red Sox. Baseball frustrates me so much with their unfair payrolls.
November 12th, 201210:36 am
Wren is looking to trade Dan Uggla and Brian McCann to the Dodgers…..But he will have to throw in Freddie Freeman and Jason Heyward and Martin Prado to complete the deal!………….and to make sure the Dodgers go thru with it they will sweeten the pot with Craig Kimbrel!
November 12th, 201210:41 am
If the Brave’s couldn’t afford to keep Ross at 3.1mil/year then they sure can’t afford an outfielder making over that per year………………….looks like Constanza is our new center fielder!
November 12th, 201210:43 am
Uggla may go into WWF as Popeye………….Think of the money………Uggs
Brave New World
November 12th, 201210:53 am
I am happy for Ross that he got good money for he next 2 years. Ross was a very valuable member of the Braves over the past 4 years, and he will be missed for many reasons.
November 12th, 201211:04 am
@Kane337, perhaps it is news to you, but life is fundamentally unfair. For example, you are an ignorant, mouth breather that whines about things beyond his control. Many of us are not.
If the Brave’s couldn’t afford to keep Ross at 3.1mil/year then they sure can’t afford an outfielder making over that per year……………… — Bourn Losers
Juan Franciscofor 3B
November 12th, 201211:05 am
Best of luck to David Ross in Boston…great teammate while here, fun to watch, and always a dependable backup C…don’t blame him at all for taking the 2 yrs at 6+M bucks! Good luck Ross, best wishes!
give Juan a chance at 3B! Leave Prado in LF (gold glove caliber)! solve two issues at once!
November 12th, 201211:09 am
I don’t understand the hate on Wren…he has made some great deals…maybe if the ‘fans’ in Atlanta would consistently come to the games and help generate more revenue, then Liberty Media might up the salary range for the Braves…fact is that when the Red Sox / Yankees / Mets / Cubs come to town, it has historically been more like an away game for Atlanta…Chipper’s farewell tour brought out a lot of fans this past season, but the team needs that to continue…TRUST in Wren, he will make some good deals, not give up the farm, and return with some quality players to help the Braves compete for the NL East and NL pennants.
and give Juan a chance at 3B! (as long as he loses some poundage)
November 12th, 201211:13 am
@Jbill; Thanks so much on the new digs about Brett Butler; man, a proven winner, very competitive, Oh would be such a awesome mlb mgr someday, could be now if not soon & I would hope the Braves will keep close tabs w/him, please, & for what that man has been through, would bring great inspiring influence. JBill, you got me all stirred up, thanks for the passion man, that’s what this team this organization needs. This blog needs it.
November 12th, 201211:14 am
In Frank Wren we don’t trust !
Get out of the dumpster, Frank !
November 12th, 201211:17 am
Odelay; good points on Gattis, I’ve said for quite some time, I feel he can be a diamond in the rough, others scoff at that comment, so this could be his opportunity to show’em what he’s made of.
November 12th, 201211:29 am
Just give me Spring Training! When do pitchers and, well, you know, catchers report?
November 12th, 201211:33 am
we should have dumped mccann
November 12th, 201211:38 am
dean; they report around the week of Feb. 20th or so, then st starts beginning of march(whole – month).
November 12th, 201211:43 am
Thanks 74. 3 months and a week will be here before you know it.
November 12th, 201211:52 am
Well, only dream wish’n, if were to check on chase headley from san diego, but probably would ask too much for’em. Scott hairston wouldn’t be a bad choice off the bench.
November 12th, 201211:59 am
Yeah dean, it’ll be here before we’ll know it. But the Braves I hope can save face, hope they can be aggressive in moves, BUT, to be aggresively smart.
November 12th, 201212:01 pm
Oh, if possible, to be able to keep Reed Johnson, clutch player, Blue coller, is a leader himself.
November 12th, 201212:31 pm
Frank Wren hasn’t gotten this guy!! Frank Wren didn’t sign this player!! Frank Wren has done nothing so far this offseason!! The sky is falling!!
Chill out people, the offseason is just getting underway. Give the guy a chance!!
I hate to see Ross go, but can’t blame him for it and the Braves simply cannot afford to pay $3 mil for a backup catcher. I have confidence Wren will find someone to fill in until McCann comes back.
November 12th, 201212:42 pm
Saw this coming…Varitek lives in Atlanta
November 12th, 201212:51 pm
I wonder who’ll get the blame for this.
Braves fans perhaps?
November 12th, 20121:02 pm
The Braves probably offered him $100 and discounts to six flags!
November 12th, 20121:04 pm
Stupid is calling any one on the Braves team or staff stupid or any other name. There will be a Braves team that will compete for the NL championship and hence the world series next season. Don’t sell them short! Go Braves
That’s not stupid.
November 12th, 20121:13 pm
Ross will be missed…in a big way.
Hope you do well with the Sox, Ross!
Just a Joke
November 12th, 20121:24 pm
The Braves management is just an out and out joke.
November 12th, 20121:43 pm
SS prospect Nick Ahmed and 3B Edward Salcedo both in PHX Desert Dogs lineup for today’s AFL game vs. Peoria Javelinas. Starts in about 45 minutes here at Phoenix Municipal Stadium.
November 12th, 20121:44 pm
To anyone saying give Juan Francisco a shot at 3rd, get a clue. We are losing a HOF 3rd baseman to retirement, can’t replace that with a fat, lazy player who strikesout a lot. Face it, unless Wren gets very creative, the Braves will be regressing next year. Moving Prado to 3rd and getting a very good LF and CF should be crucial, if Wren doesn’t accomplish this, we will all know exactly what they are thinking, and they certainly can’t use the payroll as an excuse this time.
November 12th, 20121:46 pm
And leading off for Peoria is stolen-base record-setter Billy Hamilton, the Reds prospect who’s playing CF out here.
November 12th, 20122:00 pm
Braves like Torii Hunter, on the field and in clubhouse, but he’s spent his entire career in AL and I can’t see him jumping to NL when teams such as Texas, Boston and Detroit are reportedly in on him. Braves would have to outbid those teams, and I don’t see that happening by any stretch.
November 12th, 20122:13 pm
Juan Fatcisco on 3B replacing Hall of Famer Chipper Jones; Jordan Schafer in CF; and Eddie Perez coming out of retirement to be McCann’s backup, are sure-fire decisions to put the Braves back into the World Series !
Frank Wren, BRILLIANT !
November 12th, 20122:17 pm
Thanks DOB for up-dates…u the man!
November 12th, 20122:24 pm
Some of you should read DOB’s info some time..He had a report on Juan Francisco a week ago that was great news about JF’s training and working-out this summer. Calling him fat etc is stupid..Maybe DOB can recall for some of you who missed it….. DOB if you will please repeat info on Juan. Thanks.
November 12th, 20122:28 pm
Hunter would be a leader..we miss! But one big trade with Twins would do it!
I would love to be GM but glad the pressure is on Wren and not me…Go Braves.
November 12th, 20122:30 pm
David Ross was WAR-positive and worth $3m a year. What in the world is Frank Wren thinking?
November 12th, 20122:41 pm
Just plain stupidity to not resign Ross. At this point, I’d take him over McCann- who we cannot count on.
Billy Hamilton reached on a leadoff bunt, stole 2nd base without a throw on next pitch, then scored on a double. Dude is rocket-propelled. Just crazy speed.
November 12th, 20122:46 pm
Brian Schneider. Good defense. Good power – doesn’t hit for much of an average. Handles pitchers well. Available for cheap.
November 12th, 20122:52 pm
You can’t blame Ross at all.
But you can Blame the braves. This guy carried the Braves to the one game playoff. Ummmm, didn’t they start McCann in that final game?
This is all about what I have been saying about the Braves, ( I am a long time Braves fan, since ‘76)
They never do what they need to do, ever.
You talk about Chipper staying all these years as a Brave. It was Chipper that took the pay cuts, he could have made a lot more elsewhere. If they eat half of Uggla’s salary they have the best and cheapest infield in Baseball. Prado at 3rd, Simmons at short, Janish at 2nd and Freeman at first. Now the Braves will spend money for a fill in catcher. Ross would have bent a little on money if offered two years. And it will take at least two to get the two minor league catchers ready, if then. I have doubts about McCann ever being what he was again. ( I hope he can be)
The Braves can’t because of what they are. I wish Ted would buy the back.
November 12th, 20122:57 pm
Nice at-bat for Nick Ahmed, hitting third after lineup change. Lined a 2-1 pitch to left for 1st-inning single, puts runners on corners.
November 12th, 20122:58 pm
Awesome report DOB!, this Billy Hamilton might be such a can’t miss for the Red’s. Are there any Braves prospects of his calibre? Glad Nick Ahmed & Edwin Salcedo are doin’ good work, will they be included on the 40 – man roster in ST. for a good look see?
November 12th, 20123:01 pm
“..He had a report on Juan Francisco a week ago that was great news about JF’s training and working-out this summer.” jbill
More stuff from the Braves’ spin doctors. Francisco is not a major league starter, other than DH, and there is no DH in the National League. He’s another piece of junk discarded from another team that Frank Wren rescued and doesn’t know what to do with. He will not be on the roster after this coming spring training.
Fred G. Sanford
November 12th, 20123:03 pm
I’ve got some spare parts and retreads in my junkyard. Just give me a call.
November 12th, 20123:06 pm
DOB, did you see this and any chance the Braves go after him??? Dont know much about this guy only he has some pretty good highlights on ESPN. LOL!
It appears A.J. Pierzynski will play for a team other than the White Sox in 2013, Dan Hayes of CSNChicago.com reports. While the sides are both interested in working out a new free agent contract, factors such as payroll space, timing and Tyler Flowers could mean Pierzynski signs elsewhere.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#UjSw2gq56OUyxsVF.99
November 12th, 20123:25 pm
Eddie Perez ; Coach & Playa!
Frank Wren was the mastermind of the 2012 NL Wildcard team !
If they keep watering down the sport enough, all the teams will reach the postseason.
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