11:30 am November 10, 2012, by David O'Brien
November 10th, 201211:36 am
Ross is widely regarded as the best catcher in baseball,
November 10th, 201211:37 am
Cannot believe that we lost Ross, but cannot blame him for taking care of him and his family. Thanks David for four great years of service to your team and our community… Atlanta’s loss is definitely Boston’s gain… Looking forward to seeing you mange someday in the majors…
It is really unfortunate, but 3.1M is a lot. I will really miss Ross, but he deserved a good paycheck. http://wp.me/p2lqJ1-iY
November 10th, 201211:38 am
You probably meant he is the best backup catcher in baseball. Which he is. This really sucks.
November 10th, 201211:41 am
What a cheap ass team.
November 10th, 201211:43 am
Should have been Best Backup catcher in baseball, But Braves front office don’t value a players worth. They have plenty in minors. Yeh Right
November 10th, 201211:47 am
Im sure he went to boston for at bats as much as money. Will miss ross alot but this does give my boy gattis a open spot on the roster now.
November 10th, 201211:48 am
This team is really going to miss David Ross…
Ehhhh, do we have a plan B?
Homer the Brave
November 10th, 201211:49 am
The top free agent cathcers are Mike Napoli, AJ Pierneski, and Carlos Ruiz. I doubt Wren is interested in any of them. Probably the best we could hope for would be Henry Blanco or Brian Schneider.
November 10th, 201211:51 am
Wow. That’s a bad loss especially considering McCann’s injury situation. Going to be hard to find someone to replace Ross
November 10th, 201211:53 am
Presuming Hinske is not renewed, Braves are losing some good lockeroom guys in Chip, Hinske, Bourn and now Ross. I’m hoping the younger guys learned enough from the departing veterans to maintain a positive clubhouse and the fight that they exhibited at key points this past season. Going to miss having Ross behind the plate and in the digout, but best of luck in Boston.
Tremendous loss for Braves and a gain for Red Sox. It makes sense now, as the Sox are flush with money and Braves’ don’t have kind of budget. I know the blog will castigate the team for now spending large, but that is the reality of a mid-market team.
November 10th, 201211:57 am
November 10th, 201212:03 pm
It’s a huge loss for the Braves. I had a sinking feeling about the Braves losing him when they didn’t extend his contract the minute they knew McCann would need surgery. I personally believe they should have paid him what he got to play in Boston especially knowing he may have to play full time until June or later next year with McCann’s recovery. Big mistake by Braves Brass.
Congrats to David Ross and his family. Boston is a great baseball culture and he’ll love playing in Fenway’s atmosphere.
John Farrell will prove to be one of baseball’s top 5 managers and will attract a lot of great players to play in Boston.
Fredi Gonzalez will prove to have the opposite effect of Bobby Cox because so many players came to Atlanta to play for him.
I believe someone like Ross who is so intelligent himself would be driven crazy by Fredi’s lack of game management.
Bad day for Atlanta..
November 10th, 201212:04 pm
No problem. Wren will just make a trip to Walmart on his way back from the GM meetings and pick up another catcher. He might pick up a left fielder, too.
Homer the Brave, Carlos Ruiz is not a free agent. The Phillies exercised his 2013 club option last month.
November 10th, 201212:07 pm
DOB – Enjoy the couple of days out in AZ. Can you check on Spruill and make sure there are no issues with him healthwise? Two starts ago he got hit in the ankle with a comebacker. That didn’t seem to be an issue tho because he made his last start on normal rest, but he came out after facing only 1 hitter in the 2nd inning. He only gave up 2 hits and 1 run, so it definitely wasn’t a matter of him getting pulled for that reason. Let us know if you can possibly find out anything, thanks in advance.
November 10th, 201212:08 pm
Can’t wait to see how low the braves lows balled him. Wouldn’t want to spend any money this off season. Though we pay fatty McCann 13 mil to sit on bench for 2 months!
November 10th, 201212:10 pm
Anyone else just feel like not caring about this team anymore? I mean I’m sure Ross would have been back for 4 mil over two years.
November 10th, 201212:13 pm
How much did braves offer him?
November 10th, 201212:14 pm
Frank Wren for President!
November 10th, 201212:18 pm
Saw that one coming, sign Yorvit Torrealba as a backup and have Gattis split time between C and LF until Mac is back then send Gattis back to AAA so that he can play in a regular basis until september
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November 10th, 201212:20 pm
It’s hard to believe the Braves #1 agenda wasn’t to secure Ross’s deal immediately this offseason. Either they go caught napping or there is more to the story like Ross just got fed up playing for a manager he didn’t believe in and wanted to play for a true brilliant baseball mind in John Farrell.
I know he got a lot more money to play in Boston but it’s hard to believe the Braves wouldn’t have valued him at $3 Million per year when we paid Hanson and JJ each twice that last year. His contract would not have been a budget buster.
When are the Braves going to realize what the true cost of having a manager like Fredi is? There is a reason there are so many players that don’t want to play in Atlanta. When Bobby Cox retired I was hoping the Braves would hire Farrell to manage the Braves but they are so fixated on promoting from inside the organization that they miss out on some true brilliant baseball minds. They do not have the right leader in that dugout yet and it’s going to cost us a lot more than just in game decisions being blown. I think we’ll see a lot more players pass on opportunities to play at Turner field as long as FG is running things.
ARE WE WHINNING ABOUT A BACK UP CATCHER…..LET HIM GO HE WAS PART OF THE GOOD OLE BOY NETWORK.WE DIDNT WIN WORLD SERIES WITH HIM,AND THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT PEOPLE WORLD SERIES.
Just use Betancourt & Gattis and go from there. We can never tell they may be better in ML than minors. Wren, just get us some dam Outfielders and don’t sit on your $ss.
November 10th, 201212:22 pm
@why Why would ross accept less money and less plate appearances? In what universe does that make sense?
November 10th, 201212:23 pm
Nashville – Yeah so now missing maybe the first couple of weeks equates to being out til June? And so just because Mac might miss most of April, we should give a 36 year old backup C a 2nd guaranteed year for double what we’ve been paying him the last 4 years? When in reality with Mac coming back healthy this year, his (Ross) role and impact would have been much less after the first couple weeks of the season.
I agree Ross was very valuable and I hate to lose him, but we have to look at all the other factors. Just because he was valuable in that role the last 4 years doesn’t mean he will be as valuable the next 2 years (at ages 36-37).
John in Wichita
November 10th, 201212:33 pm
Enjoyed watching Ross as a Brave. He’ll be missed.
Heap 16… While I agree he is aging and may not be as valuable at age 36 and 37 Ross is in excellent shape, much better shape than McCann. There is no guarantee that Brian will be able to throw with anywhere near full strength by April or May. There was a pretty major surgery on his throwing shoulder. Some pitchers never recover from that like they do Tommy John. Just saying Ross was a great insurance policy and the Braves have no guarantee what level McCann will be at early in the year. I agree when Brian is fully healed he should be able to play better than the last two years because he was banged up. The question is when will he be fully recovered?
I honestly hope you’re right on this that he’s good to go late April or early May at the latest. I also believe this might have been about more than money.
November 10th, 201212:37 pm
Why……..no Ross would not come back for the money you mentioned. Why would he? He “picked up the check”! Thats what all smart people do!
November 10th, 201212:39 pm
Good for him.On the bright side at least he did not sign with the Nats.
November 10th, 201212:48 pm
Lack of leadership behind the plate and in the clubhouse is going to really hurt this team next year. thank God I don’t have season tickets….
November 10th, 201212:49 pm
Nashville – And I definitely agree with you that there’s some risk here, fortunately Mac’s track record, his age, and I assume the early signs of his recovery, have pointed us to rolling the dice a little bit on his full re-emergence this year. At our payroll level, you can’t go around exceeding the budget for insurance policies (in backup roles) which also require guaranteed multi year committments.
November 10th, 201212:53 pm
What a WRENching loss!
Someone answer a question for me. Why do free agents bolt from ATL? Also why do they not want to come here? If you think money you wrong in my opinion. But I would like to hear your thoughts on this and who built the Team of the 90’s.
November 10th, 20121:02 pm
Very,Very Sad…GL Rossy you will be missed..
November 10th, 20121:03 pm
Really hurts to lose David. One of the most likeable Braves there was but business is business and he had to do whats best for him and his family. Wish you all the best David unless your playing Atlanta ;D
November 10th, 20121:04 pm
Rossy’s gonna love hitting with that green monster out in left…
I’m sure the Braves made him a good offer, but it’s hard to compete with the money that the Sox undoubtedly have. Wouldn’t be surprised if Frank tried to wrangle John Buck from the Fish, with the Marlins paying most of his salary.
November 10th, 20121:12 pm
McCann makes almost 12 mill a year and is one of the worst Defensive catchers in the league.
Ross is a deal at 6 mill for 2 years. This is part of the problem with MLB. Bourn hits his weight the second half of the season and is looking at a multi-year deal for 13 to 15 millon. WTF?
Call Pudge Rodriguez and see if he wants to come out of retirement. At 41 he would probably be in better shape then 95% of the whole team. Damm sure better catcher then McCann.
November 10th, 20121:16 pm
74braves @1157 pretty much sums it up. Time for a farm boy to step up.
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November 10th, 20121:19 pm
JHarber….. Players don’t respect Fredi Gonzalez in terms of his baseball IQ. He’s a nice man but makes poor decisions more often than good ones. Until we get a top tier manager in Atlanta we will see the trend continue that you just mentioned. Good (and just as important) smart players don’t want to play for a manager that will waste the efforts of the team my making just plain bad baseball decisions. It’s no secret that Bruce Bochey won 2 of the last 3 WS with a team of cast off players and a pitching staff. His baseball IQ is off the charts and therefor his players respect him. SF will have no trouble attracting players to play there as long as he’s at the helm. Wait and see John Farrell will have the Red Sox turned around inside of 3 years and they just dumped several of their top players because of payroll. The reason is smart players like David Ross will want to play for him.
November 10th, 20121:20 pm
Ross was worth every penny of $3.1 million a year, and two years was a reasonable contract length. The Braves just lost a very valuable piece of their team indeed, and all because of the constrained payroll. This development will be felt, and in a most painful way.
Congrats to the Red Sox. They spent their money most wisely!
Oh yeah. Thanks David. Congratulations on the raise, and going to the Braves motherland.
November 10th, 20121:21 pm
Stupid that Braves chose McCann over Ross…. DOB: you insisted that McCann should be brought back but Ross will have a better year than McCann. And Ross would’ve made a better mentor for Bethancourt….this sucks
November 10th, 20121:23 pm
I really think this is going to hurt more than just the fact McCann is going to be out a while. Ross was one of the clubhouse leaders. Now he and Chipper are both gone from that role. I know there is still Hudson, but does a pitcher has as much impact as an everyday player? Doubtful. Looks like the Braves will fall further behind the Nationals, the Phillies will be back, and who knows about the Mets and Marlins. Could be a LONG summer next season.
November 10th, 20121:24 pm
Penny wise and pound foolish. The decisions that this front office ‘rationalizes’ are truly amazing. Believe me we will regret this…hell, I already regret it. Choking on gnats has become a habit to em. They don’t much with camels either.
Let’s get this straight:
Braves pick up a $12 million option for 1 year on a catcher who has been terrible for the last 2 years at the plate and is very below average as a defensive catcher.
Yet let a solid catcher who has great defensive skills and a decent bat walk on a 2 year contract for half of what the first catcher costs.
Now we are going to overpay for a veteran free agent catcher because we got no catcher!
Well done Frank Wren. Well done sir.
Was hoping we would hold on to him so he could be Chippers bench coach once Fredi leaves midway thru next season.
November 10th, 20121:29 pm
Good Luck David Ross..you will always have alot of Braves fans pulling for you…
David was to good to stick around for 1.6 million a year. He made 6.3 Million total the last 4 years with Braves and was under paid. The 6.2 for 2 years is what he deserves. Good Luck #8 and giv’em hell in Boston.
Mac’s 13 million is sicking…Blind, bad knees , shoulder, can’t throw anyone out, don’t block plate anymore, don’t block the ball anymore. out of shape, and only hit two and a quarter last year. But he’s good in clubhouse!
November 10th, 20121:31 pm
Rod Barajas,formerly of the Pirates is available,he strarted most of the year and was good defense and produced with the bat some durin’ the year………He was signed on a 1 yr. contract and decided not to resign with them………
November 10th, 20121:32 pm
Sign Russell Martin and give fattyMac some competition.
Ironic isn’t it tht Boston now has Rossy AND Saltalamachia?
I’d have dumped Tommy Hanson by the side of the road to keep Ross….
Who is the Paul Janish of catchers? Seems like that is who ought to be targeted …
November 10th, 20121:35 pm
Henry Blanco – former Braves – is the Janish of catching.
another stupid move like Smok’em Schafer is.
November 10th, 20121:36 pm
We Brave fans have been spoiled over the past four years having a fine defensive catcher on a par with Blanco, O’Brien and some others who could also hit. Hate to lose him. Imagine the short term solution will be another defensive journeyman like Blanco or O’Brien with one of our kids backing them up until BMac is ready.
Sambo 4 Rambo
November 10th, 20121:37 pm
Good thing the Bravos didnt listen to all you busters who were saying let Mac go! I do agree hes a lot of dough, but whats 12 mill when uggla gets that year in, year out for a .210 avg. And we cant cough up 3 mill for Rossy? Seems like were getting away from signing just quality ball players……..instead we pick up jordan chafer! Damnit!
In addition to get a catcher as valuable as Ross how much cheaper do you reasonably think you get one for? With Ross’s experience with this group of young pitchers as they are developing, his club house presence etc…………….not to mention Mac being out for the first month of the season and most likely needing AT LEAST one day off a week……………
Bad move at best Wren….bad decision…
November 10th, 20121:38 pm
Gonna be a long 2013… Lots of steals coming against the braves, too.
STEELY DAN MAN
November 10th, 20121:40 pm
WOW …… First Chipper retires …… then we get Jordan Shafer back ……. crickets ……….. Then we lose David Ross ……. This isn’t looking good …. But, this too shall pass, I guess ….. I remember when Murphy and Bob Horner left ….. I felt the same way … BUMMER !!!!!!!!!!!
November 10th, 20121:41 pm
A list of FA catchers, please fellow fans, add/subtract names if I have errors/omissions:
Henry Blanco, Gerald Laird, Dioner Navarro, Miguel Olivo, Ronny Paulino, Humberto Quintero, Brian Schneider, Kelly Shoppach, Chris Snyder, Yorvit Torrealba, Matt Treanor, Rod Barajas, Mike Napoli, Russell Martin, A.J. Pierzynski.
November 10th, 20121:45 pm
I’m not at all surprised, I said it before and i’ll say it again “Wren has to finish his Dumpster Digging before he gets down to the business of signing free agents and that takes a lot of time because there a lot of dumpsters out there and he doesn’t want to overlook anything that might be useless to us, this means that by the time he finishes his digging all the good players will be off the market”. Also I said before that they should have offered Ross the full time catching job and let Blind/Mac walk and used the money saved to get a big bat but that option is out the window now. It’s going to be another dissapointing season for braves fans.
November 10th, 20121:46 pm
It’s an old Indian trick. How embarrassing it must be for Frank to find another prize stallion missing as the dawn breaks over the little camp of the absentee owners as he no doubt tries to determine how best to inform the corp giant how he has saved them another 6 Mil in a show of his worth. Should we wake Freddi or let him continue sleeping?
November 10th, 20121:47 pm
Huge loss. The Braves lost Chipper Jones who was a huge clubhouse leader, and now they lose Ross as well. Ross was a great teammate and one hell of a defensive catcher and now the Braves have lost both. When McCann is right, he is better offensively than Ross is, but Ross is heads and shoulders better defensively behind the plate.
The Braves dropped the ball big time on this one. I bet if they offered him a 2 year deal for about 5 million he would have stayed. So 2.5 million per year is to much for the best backup catcher in the game who is very sound defensively? Dear lord Wren pull your head out of your ass would you. So you can sign a guy like Janish where you said you weren’t picking him up for his offense, but rather for his glove. So the same can’t be done for Ross who has proven himself the past 4 years in Atlanta?
IMO, bringing Ross back this time was even more crucial with McCann’s injury and uncertain status heading into the season. So here we are seeing the Braves regress yet again because of their cheap ass owners. Now they have some of the biggest payroll flexibility in years, and they let Ross walk. Unless they sign a very capable catcher or trade for one, the Braves will have to be looked at as fools for this one.
November 10th, 20121:48 pm
Yeah, ha, baby! I just saved a bunch of money by cutting Ross loose. I am so smart! Now maybe I’ll have enough money to get Melky back.
Braves fans love Melky.
Lil Sambo, both need to go!
Zac in Tempe
November 10th, 20121:49 pm
What about AJ Pierzynski? He really wants to be a Brave.
November 10th, 20121:50 pm
Sure glad we will still have Uggla and B/Mac in the middle of our lineup aren’t you all, with those two bombers in there making $25million how can we lose??????????????
Augusta. Agreed Ross will have a better year than McCann and he would have been a far better mentor to Bethancourt. It’s hard to believe the Braves valued McCann at $13 Million but not Ross at $3.1 Million. Decisions like these are the reason it hurts to be a Braves fan. Will always love them but this is just plain hard to understand.
November 10th, 20121:51 pm
First, I resign Schafer to beef up our offense and now I dump Ross and his payroll on the Red Sox.
I’m on a roll baby!!
November 10th, 20121:54 pm
Now what to do about Bourn? I know what! I’ll call Boras and tell him to go stick it in his ear.
November 10th, 20121:59 pm
FEAR: welcome to Braves land. This team will never win. Not with When as GM and these idiot owners. That is why I REFUSE to spend any of my money on them. Have not been to a game in years because I REFUSE to put money in their pocket.
November 10th, 20122:01 pm
Humberto Quintero and Kelly Shoppach are two free agents I would consider the Paul Janish of Catchers. Both are good with the glove. Shoppach is better with the bat and was paid more last year $1.35M compared to $1M for Quintero. Neither replace Ross with the bat but it would be next to impossible to do so with a back up catcher which is why we should have resigned him.
Very sad to read this about losing David Ross. He made our young pitchers better and more confident. Medlen had some strong quotes about David’s impact.on him. Wish him the best.
Angry acworth man
November 10th, 20122:03 pm
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November 10th, 20122:04 pm
Lost Ross?? Best back up catcher in MLB and Wren goes cheapo and loses him!! To Boston???? WTF is going on?
……..Way to go Wren! Way to screw that one up!
Bourn probably gone, Chipper’s gone, now Ross. But we got Schafer back! Next we’ll probably hear that Frank has traded Andrelton.
Great! Just great!
November 10th, 20122:06 pm
Frank Wren is a joke! I’d really like to know why he still has his job! I would like to know of one good move he has made since he’s been GM! And I don’t want to hear that his hands are being tied by Liberty Media!!!
November 10th, 20122:08 pm
Have no fear folks, we still have Boscan, a proven winner, World Series here we come!
November 10th, 20122:11 pm
Ralph, not only do we still have J.C, I have confidnce Wren will find a first rate catcher in one of those dumpsters, keep the faith.
November 10th, 20122:12 pm
Ronnie Paulino might not be a bad pick-up. Career .325 hitter vs LH pitching.
November 10th, 20122:13 pm
HEY RALPH—You might want to do some research
November 10th, 20122:14 pm
Actualy, Boscan has eected free agency, after the Braves removed him from the 40-man roster.Our next guy on the catching depth chart is probably Jose Yepez, he hit .264 last year in AAA.
November 10th, 20122:16 pm
The question I would now like to ask Frank Wren is: How do we replace what David Ross did for less money than he signed for? Either we’ll end up signing a defensive catcher who doesn’t hit nearly as well as Ross for over $1Million and then have to watch him ground into double plays with the game on the line because you don’t want to pinch it for your catcher unless you carry 3 of them or we pay another catcher like Russell Martin even more than Ross just signed for who is inferior to Ross behind the plate.
Unless they have some move to trade McCann to the AL and have a plan for our catcher of the future once we free up that payroll this just looks like insanity on the part of Frank Wren.
I hope he proves us all wrong and this was part of the plan all along. But I”d bet money he just blew this one.
Sign Ivan Rodriguez
November 10th, 20122:17 pm
There you go again being all negaive again, you know deep down that Wren is the best GM in baseball and letting Ross go is the best possible thing for the wallet, ops I meant team.
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Just great. We’ll probably get an over the hill, cheap, below average replacement.
November 10th, 20122:19 pm
What do I want to reaserch?
November 10th, 20122:20 pm
I think we need to sign TWO catchers. One for the full year backup catcher role. One (that could be that Janish of catchers) to cover until McCann is back to playing.
November 10th, 20122:21 pm
The Boston Red Sox and John Farrell just got one helluva baseball player in David Ross.
He will be greatly missed! Best of luck DR.. You’ll love Fenway and Red Sox nation will love you!
November 10th, 20122:23 pm
Boscan is a Free Agent
November 10th, 20122:24 pm
The Braves organization makes me sick. Mc Cann can’t catch, and he can’t throw – and who knows if he’ll ever be able to hit again? They need Ross!!!
November 10th, 20122:25 pm
November 10th, 2012
Bethancourt will probably be the “Janish of catchers” and Gattis will probably be the other catcher/left fielder.
November 10th, 20122:27 pm
Thanks for the info, now let’s hope Boston wants him also.
November 10th, 20122:29 pm
You left out “he can’t see”
Wren Proves Once Again..........
November 10th, 20122:30 pm
Frank Wren proves once again he is the biggest loser and the reason our team is filled with a bunch of losers (with FG at the helm) with the loss of David Ross especially in view of the injury trouble of McFann……
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