6:45 pm November 5, 2012, by David O'Brien
November 6th, 20128:47 am
Please no more trades like Uggla. They never EVER work out. Just sign a free agent who’s father has taught him how to hit.
No. 1 Braves Fan
November 6th, 20128:55 am
A lot a input from the fans as to how the holes should be filled. So Frank, you have the
information you said that is needed. Now, its time for you to get busy and get it done.
November 6th, 20129:15 am
I don’t understand how people love bj upton so much and then hate uggla. Career wise, they have very similar numbers. Upton had a .298 on base percentage last season. That is HORRIBLE. No way that i would ever recommend him for the braves team.
Angel Pagan definitely looks like the best fit
November 6th, 20129:19 am
Brian McCann was brought back in 2013 to put fans in the seats, even though he won’t
be available until May, if at all.
Winning is secondary to fan interest. That money could have been used to acquire a
much-needed slugger in his prime, instead of some retread that Wren is seeking when he goes dumpster diving this week.
“But two years ago the Braves pulled the trigger on a blockbuster trade for Dan Uggla”
Ha, how’d that work out for us?
November 6th, 20129:20 am
“Pagen and Victorino. Get em Frankie!”
I agree with this. We need guys who are good at getting on base and making things happen. When you go for big boppers, you’re just hoping things will happen (which most of the time, they don’t)
If Uggla and McCann can rebound in 2013 like Prado and Heyward did in 2012, this would be a very effective lineup.
November 6th, 20129:30 am
“Wren could make another big deal like the Uggla deal.”
Lets hope he never makes another deal like the UGGLA deal. We may be safe – It would be difficult to find another deal that bad.
Of course, it was a great deal except for the minor details that he is not a good fielder, not a good hitter, and strikes our about twice as much as a decent player should.
November 6th, 20129:31 am
If the Braves trade Uggla it will give them almost $38 million for the free agency market. We can get two or three young quality players to fill all open positions. Always looking for bargain players will not bring a championship to Atlanta. Uggla has not earned his salary the last two years so it is time to cut bait and reduce your losses.
November 6th, 20129:34 am
Braveless, Atlanta would have to eat most of Uggla’s salary. I’d like to see him shipped, but it won’t clear up salary cap space.
November 6th, 20129:38 am
Angel Pagan is not the answer for the Braves in center. As I have said repeatedly, sign BJ and trade for Justin Upton. I can imagine kids wearing Justin Upton jerseys around Turner Field.
November 6th, 20129:54 am
Shane Victorino and Hunter Pence. Victorino in Center, Pence in Left and move “The Devil Wears Prado” to Third.
November 6th, 201210:06 am
Pagan, grossly overrated
Uggla will not be traded….get over it
Greinke will not be signed by the Braves
Upton will not be traded for simply for Teheran or Hanson (2 Braves whose trade values are at all time lows)
Check out Fowler’s home/road splits and let me know what you find
Padres have ZERO reason to move Headley – and won’t, anytime soon. Still under team control for 2 years….2014 at the absolute soonest (possible trade deadline blockbuster)
November 6th, 201210:08 am
Submariner, Pence will have to be non-tendered by the Giants before he would be available – and that’s still in question. Via arbitration, he’d likely get $12mil – as a FA, he’d ask for at least that much a year.
November 6th, 201210:25 am
I doubt that the Braves are going to be able to unload Uggla, and even if they do they’ll most likely end up paying most of his fat contract for the next several seasons as they did Derek Lowe this past year. That said, I think they’d be doing themselves a huge favor if they could move him and still get something significant in exchange. Prado is always talked about as Chipper’s replacement at third base, but honestly I’d rather see him move back to second, get a more traditional power/average bat at third, and see if they can do the same in left.
Regardless, this offseason is a very tall order to fill for Frank Wren, and though he has more money to play with than he has the past few years, it’s still short of what would probably meet all the Braves’ needs, and I don’t think Liberty Media is going to give him much if any wiggle room.
November 6th, 201210:27 am
Is there an AL team in need of a 2B? If so, trade Uggla to them as a 2B/DH, move Prado back to 2nd and go after players to play 3B, LF and CF. Cody Ross’s asking price isn’t too unrealistic, but he’s made it pretty clear he doesn’t want to play here.
November 6th, 201210:29 am
Can the Braves trade Both WREN and Uggla there ?
That would be an improvement ! I am sure Wren is goi9ng to give away too much to get anybody……his history proves it !
I don’t see a free agent outfielder that can help the Braves. They will have to make a trade for an outfielder.
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November 6th, 201210:45 am
“resign” is not the same as re-sign. Can we all agree on this…………….?
November 6th, 201210:47 am
“Submariner, Pence will have to be non-tendered by the Giants before he would be available..”
Please, not Pence. He is such an oddball.
November 6th, 201210:54 am
How about we trade Uggla for a 3rd baseman or Outfielder move Prado back to 2nd and spend the $ to fill the other hole
November 6th, 201210:58 am
Folks it is sad to say, but you just cant take the Braves seriously anymore. I’ve followed this franchise for many years, bad times to great times. Until this team is sold it will not be a serious contender. The Braves will not make any big trades or free agents, that is just the facts. They may bring in some retreads on their downhill but that is all we will get.
The Braves are just summer entertainment at this point.
November 6th, 201211:02 am
John, they are not going to get any players of worth trading Uggla right now, and they would have to eat most of his contract too. Stop suggesting it. He’s not going anywhere right now.
November 6th, 201211:14 am
Trade freeman for ellsbury. Sign berkman for first until mac learns how to play it.
November 6th, 201211:16 am
I really hope you are just joking Vinny.
November 6th, 201211:35 am
Ellsbury and berkman are both capable of .950 ops seasons. And mac needs to move from catcher and first is the only option.
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November 6th, 201211:46 am
Ellsbury is a good player, but trading one of our core players and replacing him with an aging player who only played in 32 games last season does not make any sense. And to add to that, at this point Mac has no experience at first base, we have no idea if he will bounce back this year or not, and even if so, him and the Braves still need to come to terms on a new contract. Way too many variables to account for in the future, and the idea is terrible to begin with. Mac will probably be gone after next season, but so be it. Even if he could learn first base and play it adequately, I’d rather continue with the younger, healthy, controllable and cheap player who is at his natural position.
November 6th, 201212:08 pm
Here’s hoping they trade for a manager who knows what he’s doing. That can be done now. They might actually make it INTO the playoffs and not just a silly play-in game! If we can just get rid of the current President(it’s gonna happen today!) and the inept Braves manager, life would be good again.
November 6th, 201212:21 pm
Teheran, Venters, Pastornicky and Gilmartin for Chase Headley. Leave Prado in LF and go then sign Pagan or Bourn for CF…
I like that lineup a lot, and we wouldn’t be giving up a core guy. The question is would that be enough for the Padres, or would they require a high level prospect that we don’t have. Would we be willing to give up Delgado as well.
November 6th, 201212:31 pm
I see BJ Upton – MLB Free-Agency: Destination Predictions for 15 of The Best Available Players – http://gral.in/mlb15
November 6th, 201212:50 pm
Dum-Bass: What specificaly makes Fredi G. inept and why do you say he does not know what he is doing? He lead the Braves to 94 wins in 2012 and 89 wins in 2011.
There are how many MLB managers who have managed the same team the last two years that have better records for 2011 1nd 2012?
November 6th, 201212:51 pm
Would love to see another blockbuster deal involving Uggla come out of these meetings.
November 6th, 201212:52 pm
DOB: Sorry for the multiple posts.
November 6th, 201212:56 pm
Dum-Bass, as I tried to explain to you on a recent Bradley column, the WC game was a playoff game. If you think differently, you’re wrong.
Put in Timeout by Ken Suguira,Filtered by Mark Bradley, Banned once by Bill King & Chip Towers but only slightly loved by Jeff Schultz.
November 6th, 20121:49 pm
No they are LAZY.
November 6th, 20122:24 pm
Why would Frank Wren spend $12M to bring back the less than productive and injury prone Brian McCann for one more year? He talks about not overpaying for top players yet he’s wasting money on B-Mac when he could re-sign Bourn instead
November 6th, 20122:56 pm
Before any of you start freaking out about Wren not signing this player or that player remember it takes 2. Wren can offer a FA a deal but its up the player and agent to accept. Good example was last winter so many were jumping on Wren for not signing Cody Ross. Not a single one of us knew that he had offered Ross a deal only to accept the offer from the Redsox. So unless you know for a fact he hadn’t talked or made an offer for a certain FA, then don’t bash when you don’t have the full story. Use some common sense.
November 6th, 20122:57 pm
I can’t ever see Victorino as a Brave. We can do a whole lot better. Way better!!!
November 6th, 20123:05 pm
Victorino hits .450 against the Braves and .250 against the rest of the league.
Kind of like Uggla did when he was a Marlin.
November 6th, 20123:08 pm
Stick Gattis in left, Prado on 3rd and go after an ace for the pitching staff. Line up someone like a Greinke with Medlen and you have an outstanding 1-2 punch.
November 6th, 20123:27 pm
I like Pagan and Victorino. Uggla and McCann have tremendous upside capability. If(again) thay can have good years the Bravos will do very well! Big ifs in pitching are Hanson, is his slide going to continue?, Beachy, will he comeback later in the year with the same performance level. Who will step up this year, Delgado?, will the real Ventors Please step forward. May need one more SP but ST will be soon enough to tell barring some trade that makes the concern moot.
November 6th, 20123:28 pm
Grady Sizemore would be a worthwhile investment. Low risk high reward type of guy and he still relatively young at 30.
November 6th, 20123:30 pm
Coulda gone all day without thinking about Garret (one T) Anderson in a Braves uni. Coulda gone the rest of my life without reliving that. Thanks, phoenix. Had forgotten just how truly bad he was. Made Raul Mondesi look like a good pickup.
November 6th, 20123:32 pm
Grady Sizemore has a second residence on the disabled list. He’s spent so much time there they made him president of the homeowners association.
What has the President got to do with the Braves upcoming season?
November 6th, 20123:37 pm
JNICK–Padres need pitching is a damn good reason to trade Headley. Twins also need pitching so get Ben Rever -r- Span.
Justin Upton would be a great fit for Braves but would have to give up alot.
Someone said keep “Shafer for speed”..funny he’s been caught twice for ? already. If it was you are me we would be in jail.Ship his a@@ out.
November 6th, 20123:54 pm
Hot Stove Moves
Trade – Hanson –SP, Delgado – SP & Terdo – 3B for Headley – 3B
Trade – Minor – SP, Gilmartin – SP, Avilan – RP, Constanza – OF, Gattis – C, OF, DH & Pastornicky – SS for Hernandez – SP
Sign Zach Greinke – SP
Sign Angel Pagan – CF
Re-sign David Ross – C
Re-sign Reed Johnson – OF
Re-sign Chad Durbin – RP
Pagan – CF Francisco – 3B
Prado – LF Ross – C
Heyward – RF Johnson – OF
Headley – 3B Janish – SS
Freeman – 1B Schafer – OF
McCann – C** Mejia – 1B
Uggla – 2B
Simmons – SS **Betancourt – C, until return
November 6th, 20124:02 pm
Braves Fan, picking up McCann’s option does not have any effect on if they can bring back Bourn or not.
November 6th, 20124:10 pm
you guys are suckers if you think wren will do anything significant at those meetings.
November 6th, 20124:26 pm
U guys want the Braves to sign Torii Hunter, he’s DH material. Ludwick isn’t good either, inflated numbers hitting in that bandbox in Cinn. and he cannot hit lefties, not what the Braves need. The Braves need someone like Victorino or Span or Revere for CF. For LF, a right handed power bat such as Willingham. It would be nice to trade Uggla away but my guess we are stuck with him. If I were Wren I would sign Victorino as my CF, he is a switch hitter, does well at Turner Field, good clubhouse guy and hits with RISP. I would trade for Willingham from Minn. for Jurrijens or Delgado or Tehran and cpl of minor leaguers. Line-up would then be: 1) Victorino CF 2) Prado 3rd 3) Heyward RF 4) Willingham LF 5) Freeman 1st 6) Uggla 2nd 7) McCann/Ross/Gattis Simmons SS 9) Pitcher. Rotation: 1) Medlen 2) Minor 3) Hudson 4) Maholm 5) Delgado/Tehran/Hanson or whoever. Beachy back at All-Star, he is then my #2 guy behind Medlen and everyone else moves down and whoever is #5 goes to minors/traded/whatever. Bullpen: Kimbrel, Venters, O’Flaherty, Avilian, Gearrin, Durbin, C. Martinez. Bench: Francisco, D.Ross, Schafer, Pastornicky, E. Mejia. Gattis plays until McCann is back then back to minors. Hinske, Baker, Diaz, Janish( too low batting avg. to take bench space and other options if Simmons hurt at any time) do not come back. R. Johnson will sign somewhere else. Mejia was added to 40 man roster( right handed hitting back- up 1st baseman power bat). 2013 Bravos!!
November 6th, 20124:37 pm
With the Bay Area’s history of “juicing”, I get leery of a players from that area, especially, when said player was average or below everywhere they played, and once they get to the Bay Area, they become much better.
November 6th, 20124:55 pm
Resign Bourn and try to sign free agent David Wright and Josh Hamilton. Trade Uggla and move Prado to 2nd base.
November 6th, 20125:11 pm
David Wright is not a free agent..Mets picked up his option 16 million. Braves could trade for him but it would take a bank.
November 6th, 20125:17 pm
i say offer Uggla McCann and Spruill to the D-backs for Upton. then offer Hanson and Pastornicky to Twins for Denard Spann. Or trade Uggla McCann Pastornicky and Matt Lipka to the Rockies for Fowler and DJ LeMahieu then take w/e money is left over and make a go at Hamilton and give Gattis a shot at catcher along with Bethancourt and Ross.
November 6th, 20125:47 pm
Sign Victorino and Wright and we win 90-100 games. Give Gattis a shot as a back up catcher and left fielder, what can we lose with him.
November 6th, 20125:51 pm
Josh Hamilton for left Shane victorino in center(with the extra 25 million next year from the tv deal and 25 this year) this is definitely possible. You have to think about money 2-3 yrs ahead. Also, there’ s no way they resign McCann next year so that ’s another 12 million to lock up the young guys.
November 6th, 20125:52 pm
November 6th, 20126:33 pm
I’ll settle for Headley and Victorino.
November 6th, 20126:47 pm
I think the Bravos should go all the way and go after Lohse!!!!
Who made you guys a GM? You’re guessing. Give it up.
November 6th, 20126:49 pm
They need to go after Lohse!!!!
November 6th, 20127:41 pm
Let’s please stop referring to this trade as Blockbuster. Nobody in baseball, save for a local writer or 2 and a collection of unknowledgeable fans, ever considered this Blockbuster…….and this was even before we knew how bad he is.
November 6th, 20127:46 pm
“They need to go after Lohse!!!!”
OK, somebody jumped out of the box and proposed something that makes sense. A very solid 2 or 3 guy in your rotation who will plug an important hole for a couple years…very good team guy, as well. So nice to hear from a thinker instead of folks wanting to sign old stars and drug addicts.
November 6th, 20127:48 pm
Amber, just hang with us. Wren is reading this and taking notes.
November 6th, 20128:44 pm
I think we should invest again in pitching. Go get Greinke. Figure out LF and CF later.
Last time I checked the SF Giants (The Marco Scutaro, Gregor Blanco SF Giants) won the last two out of three WS Championships.
Spend your money on pitching!
November 6th, 20129:19 pm
these trade ideas are making me chuckle. the dude that said trade FF almost made me wet myself. i hope that person does not breed.
why have we not re-signed david ross?
November 6th, 20129:23 pm
trade for dexter fowler, move prado to second, package uggla and mccann to tampa bay for zobrist and james shields, try to sign david wright, if not get marco scutaro and have prado play third, then sign aj pierzynski for a season to split time with ross until bethancourt is ready.
November 6th, 20129:26 pm
sorry, forgot that wrights option was picked up. id trade teheran and beachy for him (beachy is dynamite, but we’d have to give up something good for wright)
It was 95 degrees and sunny when I got here to Indian Wells a few hours ago. The GMs generally don’t mess around when they choose a meeting site (although they went scaled-down austere for a couple of years a while back).
November 6th, 20129:56 pm
I see the Braves trying to trade for Willingham who is under contract for next two years @ 7 mil per and would be a nice bridge gap to Gattis. Also with the interleague games being spread out throughout the season it should help keep him healthy. I then see them adding either Pagan or Victorino for CF.
November 6th, 201210:39 pm
Getting both Uptons would be great – tough to see it happening in ATL. One maybe, two, really tough.
Pagan is a nice player but not a difference maker.
What we have to remember (and hope Wren does as well) is this lineup struggled quite a bit when Chipper was sitting.
With Chipper gone you cannot assume kids from 2012 will suddenly turn it up a notch (consistently) and carry the team. Chipper added a sense of calm and purpose to the line up and the dugout.
Losing that will require more than a Pagan, Victorino, Span or Ludwick type of player.
They will need a horse in his prime to put the team on his back. Without that professional hitter in the lineup expect more bipolar offensive performances and a one and done in the post season.
SF did win with a quirky mix of guys (who had amazing chemistry – something most Braves teams lack). They also have an infinitely better manager than what we have in ATL. Bochy has two rings inside of three years. Fredi may never win one before he hangs it up in ATL. Some of that will be on Liberty/Wren and but the buck will stop with Fredi.
In any case, the Braves need more sure things than nice little players bc they don’t have a WS winning manager in the dugout. Meaning he is not one to turn lemons into lemonade.
PS – Yes dumpling Uggla at almost any cost would be a great idea. That contract was a huge mistake as was the trade. Ready fire aim move that seemed too good to be turn bc it was.
November 7th, 201212:24 am
Uggla becomes comback player of the year in 2013 and contends for MVP. As streaky as this man is, it is possible you know. When he is good he is very, very good.
November 7th, 20121:43 am
Mac is not a waste a 12mm unless he is un-tradeable at the deadline.
I expect him to be traded if A) they are totally out of it at the deadline or B) hanging around at the deadline and Bethancourt or another option (Gattis?) is good enough to take a flier at the WC.
I don’t see a scenario where Wren passes up getting some decent pieces for Mac over the summer unless they are leading the division and look to be a serious WS contender. Then he will ride it out and take the pick after Mac declines the qualifying offer and signs with an AL team for 6+yrs.
November 7th, 20128:30 am
Let’s settle down and not try to buy our way to a championship. Hopefully Wren will not take the advice on these boards and stock up on a bunch of Ugglas and drug addicts…….and washed up pitchers. Let’s stay away from fat FAs and drug addicts. We already have too many bubbas on the roster.
November 7th, 20128:31 am
“Uggla becomes comback player of the year in 2013 and contends for MVP. As streaky as this man is, it is possible you know. When he is good he is very, very good.”
When was that, benchwarmer?
No Flag Since Lemke
November 7th, 20128:35 am
Run do not walk away from BJ Upton. Have watched his career here in Tampa Bay and he is a head case and a strikeout machine. If the CF position is going to come from the free agent market, let it be Pagan. The caveat here is he might have had his career year last year. As for Upton, would not be surprised to see him where Pagan was last season – SF.
November 7th, 20129:47 am
good morning from the land down under.. Looking forward to see what happens at winter meetings. Don’t look for Wren to do much but hope he surprises me. I know he will do better than you so called GM’S
November 7th, 20129:56 am
Anybody with an OBP below .300 is not someone you want on your team. Even Uggla was above .340, thanks to all the walks. (He tied with Michael Bourn at .348).
November 7th, 201211:34 am
trade beachy? holy shirt man. are you drunk? guess it’s five oçlock somewhere…..
Juan Franciscofor 3B
November 7th, 201212:06 pm
say if he drops the weight during the winter and does what the Braves ask him to, give him a shot at winning the 3B job…leave Prado in LF and we interally acquire our power hitting 3B wthout giving anything up…then the Braves could pursue someong like Josh Hamilton for CF, a player that would bring booties to the seats!
November 7th, 20121:36 pm
In Palm Springs, it is only 10:35 a:m. I have a feeling Wren is going to do something good for the Braves today.
November 7th, 20123:00 pm
Jason Bay just agreed to a buyout from the Mets and is a free agent. Mets are paying him to leave NYC. If Gattis is maybe a season away, watching Bay compete with Uggla for most disappointing right-handed hitter in an Atlanta uniform may not be the worse way to go. We can probably sign him for next to nothing since the Mets are paying him big.
November 7th, 20123:14 pm
No to Bay. He needs to go to the AL West for a complete retooling and reinvention.
I would prefer Justin Upton to BJ but I think BJ could thrive in a new spot. Well do better
Hamilton at 29 perhaps at 31 going on 32 and starting to stumble a bit, not so much.
The Braves should want guys in their 20s who are athletic & without substance abuse baggage especially if they are A) going to spend a boat load of money or B) trade precious prospects.
They cannot afford to waste either commodity above under Liberty. That is why deals like the Dempster for Delgado are so terrible (shortsighted) and we are lucky they failed.
Trading a young arm for a 30 something guy who has peaked is bad business under a tight fisted corporate owner. Every mistake you have to keep or part with 80% of their salary to unload.
See Uggla, Lowe, KK, McOUT, etc.
November 7th, 20123:35 pm
I have enjoyed your blog immensely over the years and was hoping you could clear something up for me. I keep reading hazy explanations of the Braves tv contract. I have heard that it is a 30 year deal with payouts way below its worth and that this deal is why we can not compete with teams like the dodgers, who receive $225 million a year from there new deal. Here’s what I would like to know:
Do we have a 30 year contract and is it among the worst in baseball? If true, who is responsible for brokering such a deal? And is there any way to get out of it?
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November 7th, 20123:46 pm
Frank with white hair give away young pitching talent for Willingham of Minnesota who would hit like Uggla once in Atlanta …
November 7th, 20124:32 pm
Definatly not drunk. If not beachy who would you offer for Wright that would realistically work? They aren’t going to deal their best player for scrubs. Yes beachy is sick, but first off, noone knows how well he’ll respond after Tommy John. Some pitchers come back fine, some never get it back. Besides, medlen and minor both offer more upside in terms of potential than beachy, and the braves have plenty of sp. You can’t get someone like Wright for nothing,and the meta need good sp more than anything else. They won’t give up Wright for minor leaguers who aren’t ready, or for an almost retired huddy, or for mediocre maholm or Hanson. Braves need a 3n since prado is much better at 2nd, regardless if he likes 3b better. Wright I’d worth beachy. It gives you a top 3rd baseman, and a top rh middle ofthe lineup bat.
So if you don’t like this trade, who would you give up? Huddy? Hanson? Maholm? Teheran? Delgado? They aren’t dumb enough to give up their best player for middle of the pack or over the hill or unproven minor leaguers.
November 7th, 20124:36 pm
Shame Shame On you fans who think you are Brave fans, Quit trying to be GM and wait and see what happens. WREN makes big bucks to make those decisions.
November 7th, 20124:40 pm
Uggla, Hanson, Maholm & Delgado to Mets for David Wright; we’ll eat some of Uggla’s contract
November 7th, 20124:49 pm
Uggla Hanson maholm and mccann for DAVID WRIGHT?! Noone is stupid enough to trade an elite player for 4 mediocre/injured players. And throwing ideas on who the braves should get doesn’t make me less of a braves fan, means I actually care about the direction of this team. I’m tired of washed up players on the verge of retirement being brought I’m and touted as “great” signings and “difference makers”
November 7th, 20124:51 pm
“Uggla, Hanson, Maholm & Delgado to Mets for David Wright; we’ll eat some of Uggla’s contract”. – cornjolio
Mets would get 3 starting pitchers & the 2012 NL All Star second baseman.
I’d do it only if Wright signed a longterm deal with the Braves. Then move Prado to 2b. Then Wren would have to find a LF & CF.
November 7th, 20124:57 pm
“I’m tired of washed up players on the verge of retirement being brought I’m and touted as “great” signings and “difference makers” – dylan
Aren’t we all ! Thats all we are going to get until Liberty sells the team; or Wren stops tying up the payroll with overpriced players like Uggla, McLouth, Kawakami & Lowe. Signing the injured McCann to another year was not thinking outside the box. That restricts the payroll even further and increases the likelihood of Wren bringing in more
old, broken down players to fit within payroll limitations.
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