Hot stove could get stoked at GM meetings

Braves fans have craved action on the free-agent or trade fronts since Atlanta’s postseason ended abruptly with a Wild Card loss to St. Louis.

Well, there could at least be some rumblings from the desert during the annual general managers’ meetings Wednesday through Friday in Indian Wells, Calif.

Things are usually relatively sedate at the GM meetings compared to the annual Winter Meetings held in December, as teams do more laying of groundwork for trades rather than actual finalizing of deals. But two years ago the Braves pulled the trigger on a blockbuster trade for Dan Uggla from the Marlins on the first day of the GM meetings in Orlando.

This year the Braves have not one but two holes to fill in their lineup – center fielder/leadoff man and either a left fielder or third baseman — and are believed to have about $25 million to spend on those two players’ salaries for next season.

Braves GM Frank Wren has been known to strike quickly when a possible deal arises.

“It’s always unlikely something major is going to happen at the GM meetings, because it’s usually just too early for the clubs to have gotten all the information they need,” he said. “You get accustomed to the dance that happens at the GM meetings, where you don’t really get to the specifics that you’d like, but you get an additional round of information.”

But, Wren said, you never know when a deal might materialize sooner than anticipated. Such as  the Uggla trade, which Wren and Marlins GM Larry Beinfest had discussed for a few days before the meetings, then finalized quickly when the two were chatting during a group meeting on the first morning of the GM gathering in Orlando.

This year, there is reason to believe the GM meetings, and especially the subsequent four weeks period leading up to the Winter Meetings Dec. 3-6 in Nashville, could be more eventful than in the past. That’s because under baseball’s new collective bargaining agreement some key free-agency rules have changed.

In the past, teams didn’t have to offer arbitration to their own free agents until early December to assure they’d get draft-pick compensation if they lost those free agents to another team. That served to slow the free-agent market, because other teams would wait to find out which players were offered arbitration and would thus cost them a draft pick or picks to sign.

Under the new system, teams were required to make one-year, $13.3 million “qualifying offers” to their own free agents by Friday, five days after the World Series ended, and those players have seven days to accept or decline those offers.

Any free agent who receives a qualifying offer and then signs with another team will cost that team its top draft pick, or its second pick if the first pick is among the draft’s overall top 10.

By Friday, GMs will know exactly which free agents are available and which ones will cost a draft pick to sign.

“The timetables for some of the offseason dates have been moved up as part of the news basic agreement,” Wren said, “which should lead, I think in some cases, to guys having a better feel for their position in the marketplace. I would think that would lend to some possible quicker decisions, but it’s hard to say. Every market takes on its own characteristics.”

The Braves made a qualifying offer to their free-agent center fielder Michael Bourn, who’ll surely reject it as his agent, Scott Boras, looks for a salary in excess of $15 million annually in a multi-year deal for the stolen-base specialist and two-time former Golden Glove winner.

The Braves seem unlikely to offer nearly that much for a 30-year-old whose greatest asset is speed — an asset that usually doesn’t age as well as some others including power.

Wren said immediately after the season that the Braves would not overpay for free agents, and might look for two players for the salary of one top-salary-tier free agent if they can get more production from those two. That statement would seem to preclude the Braves from pursuing free-agent Rangers center fielder Josh Hamilton, who reportedly seeks a long-term contract worth around $25 million annually.

The Braves could search for a replacement center fielder via trade – Minnesota’s Denard Span, Colorado’s Dexter Fowler and others could be available – or  free agency, where San Francisco’s Angel Pagan stands out as someone who might produce comparable stats to Bourn and come at a cheaper price and perhaps a contract of two or three years instead of four or five.

Pagan didn’t receive a qualifying offer from the Giants, so he couldn’t cost any draft-pick compensation to sign.

A switch-hitting former Met traded to San Francisco last winter, Pagan hit .288 with a league-leading 15 triples, a career-best 38 doubles and eight homers with 29 steals in 37 attempts. He made $4.85 million in 2012 and could more than double that salary as a free agent.

The Braves will move Martin Prado to third base to replace retired Chipper Jones if they decide the market is better suited to acquire a power-hitting left fielder than a third baseman, which appears will be the case.

Among free-agent outfielders, Dodgers (and ex-Phillies) center fielder Shane Victorino and the Angels’ Torii Hunter, 37,  didn’t receive qualifying offers and could be signed without giving up a draft pick.

Cincinnati left fielder Ryan Ludwick, 34, became a free agent after opting out of a $5 million option for 2013. He hit .275 with 26 home runs and 80 RBIs for the the Reds.

234 comments Add your comment

DHD

November 5th, 2012
6:58 pm

Midnight earl

November 5th, 2012
7:02 pm

Wren usually comes out swinging so I expect some news out of the GM meetings.

DOB, Boras said each team has an extra 25 million from the MLB TV deal. Hey the braves acknowledged this?

ChipperisGod

November 5th, 2012
7:05 pm

Be smart, Frank. No washed up veterans. Good options out there like Pagan, Ludwick and some possible trades could be made for Revere/Willingham.

Fill those holes and resign Rossy and Reed! Bourn will unfortunately play for Washington, Philly, Cincy or some other team.

phoenix

November 5th, 2012
7:09 pm

Torii Hunter, Ryan Ludwick, on and on… all serviceable, competent mid-level Major Leaguers…none of whom will boost the Braves into deep post-season baseball. We’ve had a bunch of those types of pickups in recent years (Garret Anderson, Alex Gonzalez, Mark Kotsay, Derek Lowe…), all on the downhill slope, their best years behind them. Here we go again.

nsacpi

November 5th, 2012
7:09 pm

The new national TV contracts take effect in 2014. And yes, each team will see an increase in revenues of about $25 million. Which should translate to payrolls going up 15-20 million.

phoenix

November 5th, 2012
7:10 pm

Speaking of over-the-hill pickups, somehow I forget Uggla. I try really hard to forget him.

Aja hunt

November 5th, 2012
7:16 pm

Pagan I believe is the best fit for ATL, I bet he had less strikeouts than Bourn too.

Travis Turner

November 5th, 2012
7:23 pm

Sign Youkillis and BJ Upton and be done.

JoeBravesFan

November 5th, 2012
7:24 pm

Can’t wait to see what Wren & Co pull off this offseason! Prado will definitely be moved to 3rd, so I imagine they’ll be looking for players to fill LF and CF. Lots of options out there.

Wilson

November 5th, 2012
7:25 pm

How crazy would it be to pick up Pagan and Victorino?? I would have no problem with that.

BRAVESFAN

November 5th, 2012
7:30 pm

Pay for what they will do in the future, not what they did in the past!

Matt

November 5th, 2012
7:31 pm

DOB – no mention of Victorino? I’d love to get him

Rick C

November 5th, 2012
7:33 pm

Wilson, they need to get at least one power hitter. I would be fine with either one of those guys for CF, but getting both would be kind of redundant.

Travis Turner

November 5th, 2012
7:39 pm

Prado is a gold glove calibre left fielder. No need to move him.

Ken Stallings

November 5th, 2012
7:46 pm

One wonders if that Uggla trade happened so quickly because the Braves thought they were getting one level of production and the Marlins figured they were giving up a lesser value of production!

When the trade was made, it seemed like a steal, Uggla for Omar Infante and minor leager Mike Dunn seemed like a great deal for the Braves. But two years of disappointing offensive production makes one wonder if the Marlins saw this happening and saw an opportunity to limit their losses. Perhaps they also anticipated what their new stadium would be tailored for and knew a hitter like Uggla would fare even worse in such a pasture!

yogi

November 5th, 2012
7:48 pm

Angel Pagan , B J Upton for the outfield. Youkalis for third. Trade Uggla and return Prado to second base. This is realistic if you can dump Uggla

Wood

November 5th, 2012
7:49 pm

Looks like there are some good possibilities out there for us. For CF i like Pagan, BJ Upton or Victorino via FA or Justin Upton or Fowler via trade. For Outfield I like Cody Ross or Ludwick via FA or Revere via trade. Headley would be best if possible.

If we are able to grab either combo of these guys along with locking up our other young fielders and pitchers things will look good in braves country for a while.

Good luck Frank.

Matt

November 5th, 2012
7:53 pm

Travis – Prado would be a gold glove catcher too probably. The guy is the man. It makes sense to get the best players that fit, then fill in Prado where needed.

Rick C

November 5th, 2012
8:03 pm

Ken, the Marlins reportedly offered Uggla an extension that he turned down before they traded him.

yogi, besides that trading Uggla without eating most of the contract is extremely unrealistic right now, the guy you’d essentially want instead of him is Youkilis? I mean, his production was arguably worse than Uggla’s this past season.

Buttermilk Tuesdays

November 5th, 2012
8:04 pm

Are we seriously talking about Ryan Ludwick and Torii (not Torri, DOB) Hunter? One would think with the money we have available that we would aim a little higher.

JamesH

November 5th, 2012
8:08 pm

@ Travis Youkills isn’t the same player he use to be so he’s not a ideal target for 3rd either Prado or Headley are the only real good options and Braves and Padres match up nicely cause Padres need young talented pitching. Wright is a option to but not a very realistic one

Mark (another one)

November 5th, 2012
8:24 pm

I like the idea of Prado moving to 3rd and giving the Braves a strong infield. There are plenty of candidates for LF. A bet Prado could be a repeat all-star at 3rd, which is harder to find than a LF.

In my dreams I move McCann to 1st, Freeman to 3rd, Prado to LF and look for a catcher and CF. I often wondered why the Braves made Freeman a 1st baseman when he was drafted at 3rd and 1st. Oh we’ll. what’s done is done.

Commerce Tiger

November 5th, 2012
9:03 pm

I actually like Dexter Fowler a lot, he’s a local guy (a more proven one than say, Francoeur) and has as much or more speed than Bourn. He’s also in his mid 20’s.

JoeFan

November 5th, 2012
9:04 pm

Will not be surprised when Gattis is slotted into LF and Wren uses the extra cash to sign Pagan for CF and the rest to go after Greinke. That’s all rpoviding Liberty doesn’t tell Wren to send most of the excess cash back to the corporate coffers.

spaceman109

November 5th, 2012
9:05 pm

isn’t kevin youkilis like 82 years old now?!? :D

spaceman109

November 5th, 2012
9:06 pm

joefan…..who is gattis? help me out here

Bud

November 5th, 2012
9:17 pm

Pagan and Ludwick, two years each. I wouldn’t do more than two, though maybe three for Pagan, he is only 30. Ludwick is 34. will be 35 next July. If Ludwik wants more than two years, then don’t sign him.

Bud

November 5th, 2012
9:17 pm

Pagan and Ludwick, two years each. I wouldn’t do more than two, though maybe three for Pagan, he is only 30. Ludwick is 34. will be 35 next July. If Ludwik wants more than two years, then don’t sign him. I look for Gattis to be the left fieder by 2015.

Brain

November 5th, 2012
9:21 pm

1) Dexter Fowler is not a leadoff guy. He’s much more comfortable hitting #2 or down in the order. But he’s a helluva player coming off a very good year and showing he’s ready to be here and produce on the big stage.
2) For all of you who want only big name guys, consider the Giants’ roster this year. They’re the island of misfit toys, with the exception of Panda and Posey. They have outstanding pitching and guys who are substantially more concerned with winning than they are accumulating stats. There are no Ugglas on their roster. Just guys who take quality cuts and now how to move a runner over, etc.

Glen

November 5th, 2012
9:29 pm

Youklis & Hunter are past their prime & not good choices for the Braves. Pagan is intriguing for 2 years until Gattis is ready. Uggla has shown flashes of brilliance, so hopefully he will come out swinging.

Upton has moments where he looks great and others where he looks like a strikeout king whose head isn’t in the game. Fowler would be a good choice as he’s not a household name and not commanding a huge salary yet.

Caleb

November 5th, 2012
9:29 pm

@BRIAN: Excellent points, I agree with you.

travis

November 5th, 2012
9:31 pm

Enter your comments here

Caleb

November 5th, 2012
9:33 pm

I wonder why fowler isnt being talked about more? I guess he was mentioned in this article… or was he?

Herman Ruth

November 5th, 2012
9:36 pm

I expect another mediocre team next year.

Derek

November 5th, 2012
9:41 pm

I, for one, don’t like the idea of Angel Pagan. He certainly had a great year in a big ball park and will substantially benefit from overperforming during the World Series. He never really excelled during his time with NYM, thus being traded for another underperformer: Andres Torres. SF has the money to spend, especially with not bringing back Melky Cabrera, and they won’t let him go.

I’m big on Shane Victorino. Where Bourn and BJ Upton will get too many years, Victorino wants a starting role and could be had for 3 years, and substatially less than either of the two. He was great with PHI and knows the NL East, and would be a great leader in the clubhouse.

rj

November 5th, 2012
9:41 pm

whatever you do Frank please dump Uggla. We are stuck with the salary so eat all of it you have to in order to get rid of him. He is such a drag on the offense. The only good thing he did while in Atlanta is take the heat off the long term deal given to Hampton.

Expand Instant Replay

November 5th, 2012
9:42 pm

I expect another year of Horrible umpiring. When it comes results I wouldnt expect to see the Braves have another disappointing finish to 2013. The team cant seem to function in must win games (or even important games)

Expand Instant Replay

November 5th, 2012
9:46 pm

when it comes to* results…

Coach

November 5th, 2012
9:46 pm

I am surprised the Giants didn’t offer anything to Pagan, he had an incredible year. I think if you stood Pagan and Bourn side by side, dollar for dollar, and comparing the numbers, you would get way more bang for your buck with Pagan. Victorino would be a nice fit as well. I think Evan Gattis, great story of a guy who has worked his tail off to get to where he is now, will probably start the season in AAA and see what he does. He has punished the baseball on every level thus far. Management feels that by moving to left field will get him to the majors quicker since he is blocked by both McCann and Bethancourt. If anything, he could be a huge trade chip to help acquire what we need in either the outfield or third base. Anybody with a rolling marble in their head knows that the Braves aren’t even going to consider making an offer to Hamilton. Sure, they’re “intrigued” by him, hell, who isn’t?? I mean, Angeline Jolie is intriguing, but that doesn’t mean that I’m going to get her!

It has been a long time since the Braves have had this kind of flexibility in terms of payroll, and I know that Wren will get the best players that he can get with what he’s got. I was a little hesitant about him when the season started, but he has raised some eyebrows and made some good decisions.

jj

November 5th, 2012
9:49 pm

Caleb, Dexter is under contract with Rockies and up for arbitration. Braves would have to make a trade to get him if CR would even think of trading him. You never know.

moboman

November 5th, 2012
9:57 pm

If Gattis is to make it, he will have to be fast tracked sooner than 2015. He’s not a kid. Expect him to make the roster sometime in 2013 as a righty pinch hitter, backup OF-C.

bring back blauser

November 5th, 2012
10:00 pm

why not go after Juan Pierre he would be a decent centerfielder who can get on base and run only drawback is his arm is not strong

phoenix

November 5th, 2012
10:00 pm

Brain at 9:21 p.m.: this makes more sense than anything DOB, or the rest of us have ever posted here:
consider the Giants’ roster this year. They’re the island of misfit toys, with the exception of Panda and Posey. They have outstanding pitching and guys who are substantially more concerned with winning than they are accumulating stats. There are no Ugglas on their roster. Just guys who take quality cuts and now how to move a runner over, etc.

moboman

November 5th, 2012
10:02 pm

AS for the horrible umpiring. Anyone notice how they quit showing the FOXTRAC every pitch halfway thru the playoffs? The umps were missing so many calls it was embarassing. The classic was during the Braves game when Medlin had thrown like 6-7 pitches to a batter, and despite the fact that EVERY pitch was in the strike box, the batter had a 3-2 count.

joe

November 5th, 2012
10:02 pm

I would do everything possible to get Headley in a trade….Put Prado in LF. Then try to trade for Ben Rever are Span to play CF. Headley would cost you 12 million for 3 years and 1 million for Rever and 6 million for Span. 10 million in 2013 at most..then go get a good SP with some of the 20 million you still have. If that didn’t work get Victorino for two years. Go Braves..

Billvillebaron

November 5th, 2012
10:07 pm

How about a trade for Choo? Then sign Hunter.

joe

November 5th, 2012
10:13 pm

Hunter is good but 37 and would want 3 years 36 million. Another old man.

Expand Instant Replay

November 5th, 2012
10:16 pm

Moboman: i noticed the that about fox trax in regular season games!! I was at the WC game and i didnt watch a single play off game or WS game…

Bvillebaron

November 5th, 2012
10:16 pm

Herman Ruth:

Would that be the same mediocre team that won 94 games last year?

Expand Instant Replay

November 5th, 2012
10:21 pm

moboman: I noticed that about fox trax in regular season games!! I was at the WC game but i didnt watch a single playoff or WS game…I have absolutely no doubt that they stopped showing fox trax a lot though, as i said, i noticed it in regular season games a lot.

Expand Instant Replay

November 5th, 2012
10:26 pm

stupid ajc.com. screwing up my posts.

Eric

November 5th, 2012
10:27 pm

What about Francisco at 3B? He was a top prospect and had pretty good stats in limited PT. I would love to see what he could do in a full year. And he’s cheap!!

Dreaming

November 5th, 2012
10:35 pm

I think dale Murphy and bob horner are available.

Billvillebaron

November 5th, 2012
10:36 pm

Hunter ain’t getting $36 million. If someone wants to pay that, then don ‘t sign him. At 37 he is still a good player, a great clubhouse presence and a right handed power bat.

Dingus

November 5th, 2012
10:36 pm

I think the Braves should trade Michael Bourn for Mike Trout and trade Eric Hinske for Josh Hamilton. Those would be good trades. Also, nothing ruins a good oatmeal cookie like raisins.

Kujohn

November 5th, 2012
10:55 pm

Go all out for Grienke too lead what should become the best pitching staff including bullpen in the league
Grienke. Medlin beachy (mid season) minor Hudson has about 3 good yrs left An plenty of depth Hanson muholm terahn Delgado
Pitching depth Can be used to trade for cheap outfielder
Shafer will be our center fielder. Only 26 our hitting coaches can turn him around.
Or just put Gattis in left he also is 26 Hit at every level An tearing up the winter league
Pitching is what the braves are known for an this pitching staff will put us back on the map

Heisenberg

November 5th, 2012
11:04 pm

Dingus, I am certain you are joking. And could their be a special ingredient in your oatmeal raisin cookies in place of the raisins? Do bake enough for all of us.

Bobo

November 5th, 2012
11:20 pm

Alright, I must say that the Braves get what they pay for. If they try to economize in this situation, we’re going to have another 88-74 year and go out in the 1st round of the playoffs again. Personally, I’d rather spend ALL $25 million on a player like Hamilton than go after a Ludwick and a Fowler. Why not get a guy that can put butts in the seats and put up ridiculous numbers that will be more than the other two guys combined? We need a bona fide superstar now that Chipper is gone. Hamilton would be worth it. We have enough young arms to trade one of them for a serviceable (and much cheaper) centerfielder than Bourne. Why not dangle Tommy Hanson for a 30-40 SB guy like Span and spend the FA money on Hamilton?

Bobo

November 5th, 2012
11:21 pm

I remember back in the day about 20 years ago that the Braves came to their senses then and realized that a guy by the name of Maddux was expensive, but worth the money.

rainman34

November 5th, 2012
11:31 pm

I just hope we are smart and dont make moves just to make them like the lowe and kk moves. Lets face it unless we can pull off something huge we will not be great next year we will be good just not great so dont mortgage the future just to make the playoffs lets build a champion. Oh yea I love me some Gattis would love to see him in left if he is a least league avg on d it would be awesome. If you have not seen the vid of him on youtube you need to check it out. He hit a go ahead homer and was beyond pumped. I love to see that kind of passion and love of the game.

jocrazy

November 5th, 2012
11:31 pm

frank uggla is a joe johnson. get rid of him.you r a hero.

jocrazy

November 5th, 2012
11:31 pm

frank uggla is a joe johnson. get rid of him.you r a hero.

jocrazy

November 5th, 2012
11:31 pm

frank uggla is a joe johnson. get rid of him.you r a hero.

aaa

November 5th, 2012
11:53 pm

Anyone saying the Braves should just plug in Prado wherever he’s needed is crazy. He’s a great player and deserves to be a starter at 3rd or LF (2nd is really where he belongs but that’s another story). Prado is a team player and he’s earned the right to be the starter, not treated as a stop-gap.

Mike McDonald

November 5th, 2012
11:54 pm

MLB mandates are now so convoluted by give-ups to the Players Union that the game is in a suicide dive. It is a lost cause that defies rational solution.

Merlin

November 5th, 2012
11:55 pm

What amazes me is that everyone thinks B J Upton is some kind of superstar when in fact he’s a mediocre hitter with horrible on base numbers and massive strike out numbers every year. doesn’t anyone actually read statistics? Upton was 242./298/.454 that’s 17th of 21 center fielders who qualified for a batting title. 298 OBP There were only 4 outfielders total in the majors (qualified for a batting title) that had an OBP lower that BJ.. that makes him 48th of 52. In the same group he was
51st if 52, only Granderson struck out more. BJ Upton will disappoint the team that signs him and I hope it isn’t the Braves

Kujohn

November 5th, 2012
11:57 pm

need to make a big splash Hamilton. Or chase Headly or Juston upton or zack Grienke Chipper put fans in the seats Only one can put fans in the seats equal to Chipper. That’s Hamilton He is a southern boy who has said before he likes Atl A true superstar Would excite the fan base

chophouse

November 6th, 2012
12:01 am

Torii Hunter hit .313 with 16 HR & 93 RBI’s and a 5.5 WAR. He might be older, but the guy can still play. Bring him in and put him in Left. Put Pagan/Victorino in CF and that is one solid outfield.

Cody Ross obviously had a great year last year. However, I have concerns about signing him to a 3 year, 25 mil deal which is what he’s demanding since he’s over 30 years old and just now had a breakout season. I’d much rather go with Hunter/Swisher who are both proven players who put up consistent numbers.

Big Jake

November 6th, 2012
12:14 am

Dingus, I just spat my water laughing. Thanks. It’s a game, folks. On a serious note, I would like to see what Wren could do,with a payroll comparable to the Phils.
Maybe the Chic Fil A folks would like to get into the baseball business?

Teddy B

November 6th, 2012
12:24 am

Every winter and trade deadline we talk about getting Ludwick, Cody Ross, and other bodies to fill the voids we have in the lineup. We haven’t been able to land any of them yet, wish we could just stop talking about getting any of these bums. It wouldn’t be worth the cost and they are all getting a year older every time we talk about picking up these guys.

Honestly the best names in the article were Pagan and Torii Hunter but even they are getting older and the numbers are dropping year after year. Lets aim higher and trade some prospects for a better outfielder or we could bring up some young guys. Evan Gattis might be a good move if he can be considered a legitimate outfielder, not sure how well he transitioned to the OF but we could watch his numbers in winter ball and go from there.

Rowsdower

November 6th, 2012
1:05 am

Please take park effect into account when evaluating guys like Ryan Ludwick. He played in a little league park that inflated his numbers. Very little chance he can duplicate those numbers in a pitcher’s park like Turner Field.

I would rather give up prospects for Chase Headley who killed it in a brutal home ballpark.

Bobby cox fan club

November 6th, 2012
1:10 am

Go after Cody Ross and Victorino/Pagan,or save that money and put Stefan Gartrell in LF,dude has power and hit HRs for Gwinett and also need to convert Ernesto Mejia to outfield,dude can also hit with power.Gattis also can hit so any of those guys,save the money and go with these guys,except get a leadoff hitter.resign Johnson and Ross and Durbin.Costanza woule be a good option.

Mitchell

November 6th, 2012
1:13 am

Will the Braves make a trade at the GM meetings?

Gosh, I hope so.

Frank Wren sucks.

Mitchell

November 6th, 2012
1:19 am

Herman Ruth

November 5th, 2012
9:36 pm

I expect another mediocre team next year.

Thank you!

What is with you people?

Like any of this matters.

If we even make another wild card game, we could have a hundred wins and still lose.

What more do you need to see from this team?

We’re not winning the division. We’re not winning the World Series.

We haven’t won a playoff series in eleven, going on twelve, years.

Same old s!%#. Brand new year.

Rowsdower

November 6th, 2012
1:20 am

Frank Wren sucks…LOL. All he’s done is build a perennial playoff team just like Schuerholz. I suppose he sucks too.

All a GM can do is lead a horse to water…he can’t make them hit and field when it matters.

Mitchell

November 6th, 2012
2:21 am

Per·en·ni·al   [puh-ren-ee-uhl]

adjective
1. lasting for an indefinitely long time; enduring: her perennial beauty.
2. (of plants) having a life cycle lasting more than two years.
3. lasting or continuing throughout the entire year, as a stream.
4. perpetual; everlasting; continuing; recurrent.

One and half playoff appearances in the seven seasons since the Braves last won a division title, in which both Scheurholz and Wren served as GM.

Five actual playoff games. One win.

Not sure where you get “perennial” or “playoff team” out of that equation.

Rowsdower

November 6th, 2012
3:27 am

He has built playoff teams 3 years in a row, nevermind the meltdown. That’s perennial in my book. Again, it’s not like he picked up a bat or put on a glove. Both teams that actually made the playoffs should’ve moved on. The team that didn’t was better than any other NL team but didn’t get it done. That isn’t on Wren.

If you want to bitch and moan, be a Royals fan…

Ted M

November 6th, 2012
5:03 am

What are the Braves plans, if any, for Juan Francisco? I don’t really think he is the answer. There are 10’s of millions of dollars at stake and he comes to spring training 25 lbs over weight…how lazy would a talent have to be to blow that off. I’m just surprised there has been no mention of him one way or the other.

Go Jackets

November 6th, 2012
6:22 am

Lead off speedster and a power right handed bat and we are golden.

mjone182@yahoo.com

November 6th, 2012
6:27 am

Herman Ruth, I don’t know what your definition of mediocre is, but 92 wins is not it for baseball.

For me, I’d personally like to see both Upton brothers in the Braves outfield next year. Make it so, Wren.

Game Changer

November 6th, 2012
6:38 am

John Smoltz should be the MANAGER OF THE ATLANTA BRAVES. It will not happen as long as Wren is around because SMOLTZ would not need him for anything. Wren has not done anything to improve the Braves roster since he got the GM job. HIRE JOHN SMOLTZ AS THE MANAGER OF THE ATLANTA BRAVES — WOULD BE THE BEST THING EVER –

joe

November 6th, 2012
6:46 am

ncgary

November 6th, 2012
7:13 am

you mean i can vote twice?

what you eat for breakfast?

November 6th, 2012
7:14 am

So basically we get to go after “leftovers” and not top of the line quality players. *sigh*

Joe Nuxall

November 6th, 2012
7:29 am

Give Arizona Teheran or Hanson for Justin Upton and put him in left field. Sign BJ Upton as a free agent and keep him in center. Now this, folks, is a real good fix for the Braves. They’d be set.

Roy Gibbs

November 6th, 2012
7:45 am

Just booked our Spring Training trip Mar 13 – 22. Can’t wait to see the improvements that you guys
have made to my Braves. I’ll bet that Mr. Wren is just finishing his morning coffee and is furiously
jotting notes on all of your input. Go get ‘um, Frank.

Armchair Observer

November 6th, 2012
7:46 am

# It won’t matter who the Braves get if Fredi is sitting his hands in the dugout and not being aggressive. What is wrong playing for 1 run? A run here and a run there adds up with really good pitching, and a big inning occasionally.

# Headley sounds like the player they should pursue most aggressivley, then find a centerfielder (Victorino would be nice, even Tori Hunter for 2 years)

# Gattis should make the roster, along with Francisco there is pop off the bench with
Schafer as the speed guy.

# Uggla going nowhere, don’t laugh he could be league MVP next year if he puts it all together consistently.

jerry

November 6th, 2012
7:47 am

No way is Liberty Media dedicated to winning a World Series. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Armchair Observer

November 6th, 2012
7:48 am

# Say no to Uptons.

# Say no to Uptons!

# Say NO to Uptons!!!!!!

Joe Nuxall

November 6th, 2012
7:57 am

Dang Amrchair, you don’t have to be so Downton about Uptons.

cornjolio

November 6th, 2012
8:10 am

Frank Wren

November 6th, 2012
8:13 am

retreads, rehabs, & rejects are my specialty !

A healthy Brian McCann in 2013 is the equivalent of acquiring an ALLSTAR catcher !

As a result don’t look for any big name & budget-busting difference makers to be acquired this offseason.

I’m ready for spring training !

Cecil34

November 6th, 2012
8:19 am

Competitive and profitable – the two words that are the mission statement for the Braves and Wren as per Liberty Media via Terry McGuirk.

It is there in black and white from Tim Tucker’s interview with McGuirk before last season.

It makes me sick.

Keep your expectations low.

Joey

November 6th, 2012
8:19 am

Pagen and Victorino. Get em Frankie!

Let's Go

November 6th, 2012
8:30 am

Like Pagan, he would be a great fit in center with a very manageable salary. Stay away from Tori Hunter and Ryan Ludwick. Hunter is another Garret Anderson and Ludwick played in Cincinnati and that little league ballpark so his numbers are inflated. Dexter Fowler could be an interesting option but if he is available I could see a few teams interested which might mean the Braves would have to overpay for him with prospects. On the plus side if you could get him in a reasonable trade you would have control of him for 3 seasons before he is free agent eligible and it appears he is finally developing into a good everyday ballplayer.

RBrave

November 6th, 2012
8:32 am

Love the Braves policy of not overpaying for free agents, overpaying for 1 player that gets hurt or underachieves can wreck a ball club. ARod, Soriano, Dice-K,Puhouls (spelling). Cardinals did fine without him and that monster salary. Go Braves

Ricky

November 6th, 2012
8:35 am

I’m an Angels fan and think Torii Hunter is fantastic…very disappointed they aren’t bringing him back. The Braves should sign him to a 2 year deal to provide leadership, strong defense, and a productive bat until the farm has another prospect ready to go. I’d love to see Torii at Turner!

O.J.

November 6th, 2012
8:39 am

I saw no to Fowler, no to Hunter, no to Ludwick.

Yes to trading for Headley, and yes to signing BJ Upton or Angel Pagan

man and dog

November 6th, 2012
8:39 am

Frankie – Make another blockbuster trade and include Uggla in it again.

what you eat for breakfast?

November 6th, 2012
8:44 am

We will really need someone to put people in the seats at the ted, Sadly I do not think names like “Pagan” and “Fowler” will do that and people probably will not be sporting those jerseys.

Add your comment