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nolie
November 12th, 2012
7:32 pm
yeah I can see Trout….
Rick C
November 12th, 2012
7:34 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
Rangers wanted Upton enough that they tried to trade Olt for ATL’s Simmons (who AZ wants). Braves wouldn’t do it, tho.
Ward
November 12th, 2012
7:35 pm
Phillies are showing interest in Josh Hamilton now.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
7:37 pm
of course we wouldn’t trade for Olt he has an OPS+ of 17 in a great hitters park……
Ward
November 12th, 2012
7:38 pm
I bet Phillies sign Hamilton before Wren, does anything…..Little Humor
nolie
November 12th, 2012
7:39 pm
are we in a race?
Jeff R
November 12th, 2012
7:40 pm
Maybe Gattis calls a better game than Brian “6 Curveballs in a Row” McCann… maybe not. Only one way to find out.
I’m not sure Wren wants to experiment.
Ward
November 12th, 2012
7:41 pm
All have a good one! Will talk tomorrow. The Hot Stove is on right now, and Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
nolie
November 12th, 2012
7:44 pm
gotta remember that Atlanta is a lot warmer than out thar where you live ward, Frank doesn’t need the stove to get hot as soon as you do
Nowhere man
November 12th, 2012
7:45 pm
Who will be the opening day catcher?
Nowhere man
November 12th, 2012
7:49 pm
Randy Ready new AAA manager, another hitting coach that could help some of our prospects.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
7:49 pm
move Prado to catcher, problem solved….
keyLargo
November 12th, 2012
7:50 pm
A new blog?? It’s only been ten days.
AJC rule that the blog has to get to seven meaningful comments no matter how many pages.
Nowhere man
November 12th, 2012
7:50 pm
I know that was said in jest but the majority on here said he couldn’t play SS.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
7:51 pm
oh wow, we may be on this blog for months
Nowhere man
November 12th, 2012
7:51 pm
That might take another ten days
nolie
November 12th, 2012
7:52 pm
he can’t play it on a daily basis unless you want to put up with more balls getting through than with a good defensive SS
Nowhere man
November 12th, 2012
7:53 pm
The new blog should run at least to Thanksgiving day.
JT
November 12th, 2012
7:53 pm
We probably cannot afford his minimum salary. Will do doubt lose him to the Red Sox.
Nowhere man
November 12th, 2012
7:54 pm
I agree he is not Simmons at SS but he is an option.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
7:56 pm
you shoulda been here years ago when the blog had to be written B4 1000 posts or it would blow up. You woulda loved it since your interest wanes so quickly
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
7:57 pm
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
It’s worth repeating: Trout/Harper to MLB what Bird/Magic were to NBA in 1980.
Completely disagree.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 12th, 2012
7:58 pm
Ive watched Posey and Molina play… Id say Posey is the best, possibly put Molina ahead of Mac. Hes still a good one though. Needs to teach CBet and Gattis.
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
8:00 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
Rangers wanted Upton enough that they tried to trade Olt for ATL’s Simmons (who AZ wants). Braves wouldn’t do it, tho.
DKnobler @DKnobler
If Braves had been willing to deal Simmons, they’d probably just get Upton for themselves. But they’re keeping Simmons.
I knew it. Braves could use Olt at 3rd base, but they were smart not to deal Simmons for him. I’m glad Wren is holding strong in keeping Simmons. Heyward, Freeman and Simmons as a strong young positional core. Be nice if we can get Olt without Simmons though, but I don’t see that as possible.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:02 pm
Hey Bat 2 more weeks till the new Harry Bosch book The Black Box arrives.
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
8:04 pm
And I love the shock that Knobler tried to spin on it. The Rangers wanted Upton so bad they were ACTUALLY willing to deal Olt.
Olt is blocked and their best prospect not named Profar so it only makes sense he’s used in a trade this winter.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 12th, 2012
8:06 pm
Ahmed, Salcedo, and a pitcher (like Maholm) to Tex wouldnt be enough for Olt? They could basically trade for Upton without using any of their main pieces.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:07 pm
what is Old is the next Marte or Betemit, both highly rated prospects. Betemit was to oust Chipper and Marte was considered about as good as Wright….
Bat Masterson
November 12th, 2012
8:08 pm
nolie_
Good news, indeed. Let me know what you think of it, if you don’t mind.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:08 pm
what if Olt….. sigh
Disgusted
November 12th, 2012
8:10 pm
FW was smart not to budge on Simmons.
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
8:13 pm
Olt will be used to get a hitter like Upton or a pitcher like Shields – don’t think they are trading him for Teheran or spare parts.
Bat Masterson
November 12th, 2012
8:13 pm
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
It’s worth repeating: Trout/Harper to MLB what Bird/Magic were to NBA in 1980.
Oh come the hell on!! I guess that is supposed to drive tweets or something. How do these cats get paid, by the hit, or maybe the hiss
Disgusted
November 12th, 2012
8:15 pm
Sources say Tingers are in the lead for Torri Hunter……
Ward — I expect him to stay in the A.L. Boston would have been a fit for him heard that they are making a play for Swisher.
Cody Ross might be in play for the Braves. He wants 3 yrs @ 25. They do not want to pay that. I don;t know if we would pay that.
Heard one blog putting C. Ross in Seattle. I don’t know about that one.
Could do worse than Cody Ross. I don’t know if we match up with Arizona to get J. Upton.
George_George
November 12th, 2012
8:18 pm
Nowhere man
November 12th, 2012
7:45 pm
Who will be the opening day catcher?
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BETANCOURT and GETTIS better get ready for primetime in a hurry. ROSS will be missed, still can’t understand letting him get away. He should have been extenned during the season.
Disgusted
November 12th, 2012
8:18 pm
Olt is completely unproven & Gentry is more like a 4th OF. No power whatsoever.
Have to try to do better.
I have zero idea what Olt can do in MLB. Seems like a middle of the road upside ballplayer.
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
8:18 pm
Oh come the hell on!! I guess that is supposed to drive tweets or something.
A lack of understanding of what Bird/Magic actually meant to the NBA in 1980 – when the league was searching for itself. Just a really strange comment by Buster.
cabravesfan
November 12th, 2012
8:20 pm
Sources say Tingers are in the lead for Torri Hunter……
Ward — I expect him to stay in the A.L. Boston would have been a fit for him heard that they are making a play for Swisher.
Torii Hunter’s sone will be a freshman at Notre Dame next year. I suspect Detroit’s proximity to South Bend is a factor in him leaning that way
cabravesfan
November 12th, 2012
8:21 pm
*son…
stupid rogue E
DS1
November 12th, 2012
8:22 pm
Is Simmons so important that we need him worse than a RH banger for LF? I am only asking because it might be interesting to discuss. Would we be better off with Upton in LF and some other SS or Simmons at SS and somebody like Cody Ross or a platoon in LF?
Personally, I’d prefer Simmons and Willingham, but I am just not thinking he is going to be available for a fair price.
For sure we’d never deal Simmons for Olt plus. We’d go straight to the D’backs instead if we were thinking about dealing Simmons.
I thought the D’backs had a big SS prospect that was getting close? Chris Owings is his name.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:28 pm
if Simmons plays like he did and could OPS 700+ he would be pretty valuable player
his +/- was +20 in the short time that he played
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:29 pm
his Bill James Runs Saved total was 19 ranked second in baseball, and only played half a season or so
DS1
November 12th, 2012
8:30 pm
I hear ya nolie. But how big is that “if”?
Personally, I think he’s going to be a decent hitter. But I’m not quite ready to bet the farm on it just yet.
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
8:30 pm
Six years of maybe the best defensive SS in the sport and he can hit a little. I’d want to keep him around. There needs to be more options to get that RH banger than subtracting from the young core of players we have on the ML roster. Trade from the farm system.
DS1
November 12th, 2012
8:31 pm
David Wright, Chase Headley or Andrew McCutchen. Hey, a guy can dream can’t he?
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:31 pm
too early to know yet, but he already has major value just defensively and he will be cheap for quite a while
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 12th, 2012
8:32 pm
Maybe the Phils can help… are they considering moving JRoll? They send him to Az, get Bauer back, we send Teheran and EOF and get back Upton. Phils seem likely to go after a FA OF. Maybe that would be good for them. Rollins for Bauer is really good.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:33 pm
I can’t believe that McCutchen won the GG
Mark
November 12th, 2012
8:33 pm
Evening all
SSs, especially really good ones, are much more difficult to come by than OFs are. So, IMO, no way we trade Simmons and if we were to trade him, we’d better get an awful lot in return. Because not only does he have all the physical skills necessary to be a really special player but he has a really competitve nature.
No way Braves trade him.
George_George
November 12th, 2012
8:33 pm
I would NOT trade SIMMONS for someone like C ROSS.
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
8:33 pm
If Simmons goes say .290/.330/.390ish, he’s a star.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:34 pm
yeah right TOBF
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
8:35 pm
This is where I didn’t quite believe +/-, nolie. Andrew McCutchen? A bad defensive CF? Very hard to believe.
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
8:36 pm
It’d be nice to get Bauer on the Braves. Throws nice and hard.
George_George
November 12th, 2012
8:37 pm
BIG BEN time. Nite all.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:38 pm
has been most seasons, they all have flaws but thats the best by far IMO, they watch every play and they have great folks there. He was voted 10th by their panel, and that is a star studded panel
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
8:38 pm
The Giants and left-hander Jeremy Affeldt have reached an agreement on a three-year deal that will be worth around $18MM, according to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports.
I see six year deals on there way to Pagan and Scutaro……
Go Sabean!
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
8:41 pm
That’s the one I might have to disagree with – McCutchen. Just an absolute shocker that he would be considered that poor. Where do they have Adam Jones? Better than Andrew? Heck, I think Adam should be in a corner.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:42 pm
have always liked Scutaro, wanted him last season as did a few others, but the Rox wanted him as starter
DS1
November 12th, 2012
8:43 pm
TOBF
I can’t see the Phillies working with us to help us to get Upton.
I guess it settled then, we keep Simmons. Somebody call Frank and let him know that we have spoken!
Gotta run folks.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:45 pm
The vote was Trout, Bourn, Span, Gentry, Jackson, Maybin, Harper, Young, Gomez , McCutchen
The panel is
Bill James is a baseball writer and analyst and the Senior Baseball Operations Advisor for the Boston Red Sox
The BIS Video Scouts at Baseball Info Solutions (BIS) study every game of the season, sometimes multiple times, with the task to examine a huge list of valuable game details.
The man who created Strat-O-Matic Baseball—Hal Richman.
Named the best sports columnist in America by the Associated Press Sports Editors in 2003 and 2005, Joe Posnanski is a Senior Writer at Sports Illustrated and occasional columnist for the Kansas City Star.
For over twenty years, BIS owner John Dewan has collected, analyzed, and published in-depth baseball statistics and analysis. He wrote The Fielding Bible in 2006 and The Fielding Bible—Volume II in 2009.
Doug Glanville played nine seasons in Major League Baseball and was well known for his excellent outfield defense. Currently, he is a baseball analyst at ESPN, primarily on Baseball Tonight, ESPN.com and ESPN The Magazine.;
Hall-of-Famer Peter Gammons serves as on-air and online analyst for MLB Network, MLB.com, and NESN (New England Sports Network)
After nearly fifteen years with ESPN.com, Rob Neyer joined SB Nation as National Baseball Editor in 2011. He has written six books about baseball.
Mark Simon has been a researcher for ESPN Stats & Information since 2002. He has worked on Baseball Tonight, co-hosts the Baseball Today podcast, and contributes regularly (sometimes on the subject of defense) to ESPNNY.com and ESPN.com.
The Tom Tango Fan Poll represents the results of a poll taken at the website, Tango on Baseball (Tangotiger.net). Besides hosting the website, Tom writes research articles devoted to sabermetrics.
Our three tie-breakers are Ben Jedlovec, vice president of Baseball Info Solutions and coauthor of The Fielding Bible—Volume III, Dan Casey, veteran Video Scout at BIS, and Dave Studenmund, one of the founders of http://www.hardballtimes.com.
Nowhere man
November 12th, 2012
8:46 pm
George, don’t forget about peanut
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:47 pm
The actual numbers were
Michael Bourn +37
Michael Trout +34
Denard Span +31
Justin Maxwell +21
Bryce Harper +17
Cameron Maybin +15
Lorenzo Cain +14
Craig Gentry +14
Justin Ruggiano +13
Peter Bourjos +13
Chris Young +13
VaBravesFan
November 12th, 2012
8:49 pm
Crazy how much value Simmons has.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 12th, 2012
8:51 pm
McCutcheens HR and rbis made a big difference….
nolie
November 12th, 2012
8:54 pm
just talking D
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 12th, 2012
8:58 pm
sarcasm, noles. dont see how he couldve won based on his defense… makes no sense
Mark
November 12th, 2012
8:58 pm
McCutchen beefed up alot this past year. Went from looking like a leadoff guy to looking like Lenny Dykstra.
Sad when I can’t look at a guy any longer and think that he worked really hard to get stronger with out thinking “did he ….”?
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
9:00 pm
If we’re going to trade route, Denard Span makes too much sense to me.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
9:01 pm
I can live with Span, but his last three seasons are noticeably down from his first two for some reason
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
9:04 pm
Colletti with a three year, $22.5 million dollar deal for League.
Sabean with a three year, $18 million dollar deal for Affeldt.
Yup. They are basically the same person.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 12th, 2012
9:05 pm
Id love to get Bauer too… be a great rotation with him and Graham… imagine if we somehow got David Price. We’d be all giddy over our flamethrowers! I just cant see a way that we can get him. Certainly wouldnt be trading both Upton and Bauer here, along with Hernande. If we did a 3-way trade, he’s almost certainly gong to that 3rd team.
nolie
November 12th, 2012
9:06 pm
repeat after me…We do not need pitching according to the FO
Mark
November 12th, 2012
9:10 pm
While we’re at it lets work a 5 team deal and get:
Pujols at 1st
Phillips at 2nd
Cabrerra at 3rd
Trout in CF
Molina at C
nolie
November 12th, 2012
9:11 pm
good idea
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 12th, 2012
9:17 pm
Molina? Nah… go younger and get the ‘Nole. Much prefer Posey.
According to scoots we need a true, proven frontline SP. According to Efrim, we need a guy who can in the mid 90s. Hard throwers. I agree wholeheartedly with both. The FO is wrong!
Trader Jack
November 12th, 2012
9:20 pm
Efrim
November 12th, 2012
9:04 pm
Colletti with a three year, $22.5 million dollar deal for League.
Sabean with a three year, $18 million dollar deal for Affeldt.
Yup. They are basically the same person
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It’s only money
Mark
November 12th, 2012
9:22 pm
Then lets get Verlander and Dickey. Imagine Verlander going 7 and then bring in Dickey. Talk about a change of pace.
BFChris28
November 12th, 2012
9:37 pm
New Bloggage!!!!!!!!!!
David O'Brien
November 12th, 2012
9:40 pm
NEW BLOGGAGE filed from somewhere over Oklahoma, I think….
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/11/12/ross-exit-added-another-line-on-braves-to-do-list/
ncgary
November 12th, 2012
11:19 pm
i try and not get down on life when i get thrown all these lemons, but now i get thrown some strawberries in amongst the lemons, and it has stung me the wrong way today. we went to the beach a couple months back and onb the way home stopped at the scotchman and got some gas. they had a sign up said to text to win the harly sporster, so i show renee the sign and say you know , you could probably win that.
well we get the call today and she won it. a nice red and black 883 sporster. now how am i gonnna ride this while on oxygen 24/7. he sure has a cruel sense of humour at me for some reason now
lol
https://www.facebook.com/ScotchmanFans
scroll down and check out her bike
Bravedan
November 13th, 2012
12:02 am
NEW BLOGGAGE filed from somewhere over Oklahoma, I think….
Cool, a great place to be:)
Launa Reeter
May 13th, 2013
5:11 am
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