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Lew
November 11th, 2012
9:54 am
The Braves are not trading four pitchers to anyone.
Webster
November 11th, 2012
9:55 am
Bravedan
Good trade for bothsides. In the end Texas will end up with Upton.
Could we add something and try to get Nelson over Gentry?
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 11th, 2012
9:55 am
Why would the Tigers give up laird and for whom?
Free agent
Jeff R
November 11th, 2012
9:56 am
Braves get: Spahn, Willingham, Doumit and Glen Perkins. Twins get: Delgado/Teheran, Hanson, Venters/Avilan, Gilmartin/Spurill and Cunningham.
Let’s trow in Ahem, Graham, LaStella, Bethancourt, and five straight years of first round draft choices.
It would dwarf the Tex deal!
Mark
November 11th, 2012
9:56 am
I weighed in on the Ross and Yawnish situation. Back to speculation and GM talk now so i’m out.
Will check back next time a move is made or someone signs.
Jeff R
November 11th, 2012
9:57 am
TheOnlyBravesFan, ekes. Missed that one.
richbrave
November 11th, 2012
9:58 am
Sans ROSS, the bench is much diminished going forward. I would have paid the man. He was worth it.
For those who don’t know:
1B ERNESTO MEJIA
LHRP JUAN JAIME
C MATT KENNELLY
OF JORDAN PARRAZ
1B CHRIS GARCIA
are signed or protected for next season
1B IAN GAC
OF LUIS DURANGO
have signed with K.C.
RHRP BUDDY CARLYSLE
LHRP DUSTIN HUGHES
LHRP BRENT LEACH
RHSP ERIC CORDIER
1B/OF TIM SMITH
OF STEFAN GARTRELL
OF JOSH KROEGER
OF FELIX PIE
2B RUBEN GOTAY
SS JOSH WILSON
IF RUSTY RYAL
IF TERRY TIFFEE
IF BOBBY STEVENS
IF JASON CHRISTIAN
C JOSE YEPEZ
C SHAWN McGILL
C J.C. BOSCAN
are not signed at the moment.
In addition, FA
CHAD DURBIN
ERIC HINSKI
MATT DIAZ
JACK WILSON
are unsigned
Bravedan
November 11th, 2012
10:00 am
Be an interesting deal. Are the Braves ready to give up Teheran for that package?
I’m not sure if they think he’s worth more or not, but with the other young pitchers we have coming up I think I would. We would have our 3B for the next several years and Gentry is a great CF with blazing speed but hasn’t been a regular to date. Can he be? You never know until you give him a chance. He had a really good year, but mostly against lefties I believe. We would be set with a great young infield at 3 positions for the next several years. We could even move prado back to second when Uggla’s contract expires if needed.
Bravedan
November 11th, 2012
10:00 am
Be an interesting deal. Are the Braves ready to give up Teheran for that package?
I’m not sure if they think he’s worth more or not, but with the other young pitchers we have coming up I think I would. We would have our 3B for the next several years and Gentry is a great CF with blazing speed but hasn’t been a regular to date. Can he be? You never know until you give him a chance. He had a really good year, but mostly against lefties I believe. We would be set with a great young infield at 3 positions for the next several years. We could even move prado back to second when Uggla’s contract expires if needed.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 11th, 2012
10:02 am
Yepez…. resign him, he’s a decent hitter. He could be our backup. .282/.379/.394/.773 career line at AAA, .270/.356/.385/.741 for his minor-league career. Not sure how his defense/game-calling is though
Webster
November 11th, 2012
10:02 am
FW is going to have to give up Delgado/Teheran to get a good CF, Delgado/Teheran to get a good LF, a lesser pitcher to get a catcher who could be the starter for the begining of the season (Gilmartin/Spurill) and Venters for Perkins is a win for the Braves.
Bravedan
November 11th, 2012
10:02 am
Why would the Tigers give up laird and for whom?
He’s a free agent.
David O'Brien
November 11th, 2012
10:06 am
Why would the Tigers give up laird and for whom? — Jeff R
Last graph of my David Ross story/blog:
Among the free agents available as potentially affordable backup catchers are Gerald Laird, Rod Barajas, Ronny Paulino, Miguel Olivo, Matt Treanor, Brian Schneider and Kelly Shoppach.
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/11/10/braves-lose-catcher-ross-to-red-sox/?cxntfid=blogs_atlanta_braves_blog
Bravedan
November 11th, 2012
10:07 am
Could we add something and try to get Nelson over Gentry?
Not sure they would trade him and his power at this time because they most likely are going to lose Hamilton and his power through free agency. Cruz’s defense isn’t that great either, although he has an excellent arm.
Lew
November 11th, 2012
10:08 am
The Braves may well decide to trade either Teheran or Delgado, but they aren’t going to offer up all of Hanson and Maholm and Venters/Avilan/O’Flaherty and Gilmartin and Spruill like some seem to believe. They just aren’t. They may lose a couple but are not going to decimate the ML pitching staff and the Farm Sytsem.
richbrave
November 11th, 2012
10:08 am
Of the unsifned I would want
CHAD DURBIN
JOSH KROEGER
BUDDY CARLYSLE
DURBIN for the pen, and CARLYSLE and KROEGER for the minors.
Nowhere man
November 11th, 2012
10:08 am
If they braves had offered Ross two years at 5m he is still a brave.
Bravedan
November 11th, 2012
10:11 am
Scott Hairston is a free agent capable of playing all three OF positions and has some power. I’m thinking he would be an upgrade over Reed Johnson. Any thoughts?
David O'Brien
November 11th, 2012
10:12 am
Considering Texas needs pitching and apparently an extra SS, I’d suggest we send them Teheren and Pastornicky for Olt and Gentry.
Be an interesting deal. Are the Braves ready to give up Teheran for that package?
At this point, seems more likely to me that Texas would balk at that deal before Braves would.
Lew
November 11th, 2012
10:13 am
I think that it’s pretty obvious that the Braves did not want to offer Ross two years at age 36.
Y’all do realize that we’e heard a lot recently about how McCann is declining at age 30 and that Ross is six years older, doesn’t start anymore and is likely to not be a starter ever again?
Bravedan
November 11th, 2012
10:14 am
10:08 am
The Braves may well decide to trade either Teheran or Delgado, but they aren’t going to offer up all of Hanson and Maholm and Venters/Avilan/O’Flaherty and Gilmartin and Spruill like some seem to believe. They just aren’t. They may lose a couple but are not going to decimate the ML pitching staff and the Farm Sytsem.
Yeah, there is no way they decimate their pitching depth to any ridiculous degree as some suggest.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 11th, 2012
10:19 am
Hairston could possibly be better… all comes down to cost, I’m sure. Both made about the same last season…..Hairston is 3 years younger. Their OPS vs. lefties and righties are quite similar, though Reed has a better avg. vs. righties. Scott has the power. Wouldn’t mind either way.
Bravedan
November 11th, 2012
10:21 am
At this point, seems more likely to me that Texas would balk at that deal before Braves would.
You’re probably right DOB, but I’d like to see something similar to get Olt and Gentry. Do you have an opinion on what it would take from our end? Or if we wanted to add players from both ends to make it a bigger deal? Robby Ross is a good looking young pitcher they used in relief this year, but will probably be a starter soon. If they sign Adam LaRoche, Mitch Moreland may become available, He’s a solid 1B and can play corner outfield as well.
David O'Brien
November 11th, 2012
10:37 am
You’re probably right DOB, but I’d like to see something similar to get Olt and Gentry. Do you have an opinion on what it would take from our end? — Bravedan
Word at GM meetings was that Texas has no interest in trading Olt, and has let several interested teams know that.
DS1
November 11th, 2012
10:43 am
Killjoy
keyLargo
November 11th, 2012
10:47 am
I do not think Hunter would be another Garrett Anderson if he were here (gosh I would hope not)
Yes he would. It might take until 2020, but it would happen.
Lew
November 11th, 2012
10:53 am
There’s been a lot of call to trade for some team or another’s young prospects. That – I suppose – is all fine and well (nice to have good young players with upside signed for six or so years), however…..
I just looked at our 40 Man Roster and of the players likely to make the team this year, we have exactly 4 players over 30- Hudson, Maholm, Martinez, Moylan (IF he’s signed again) and Uggla.
I’m not certain that we need more rookies and inexperienced kids. We need a veteran presence – especially with Chipper, HInske and Ross gone. You need a mix and we’re starting to get bottom heavy on age.
Lew
November 11th, 2012
10:55 am
And yes, I do realize with Moylan it would be five – I just don’t see Peter being back.
Efrim
November 11th, 2012
10:56 am
I wonder why they wouldn’t want to trade Olt. Where does he fit? A platoon at 1st base with Mitch Moreland? That’s not even his natural position.
Bottom line is, Olt is clearly blocked by one of the more valuable players in the league in Adrian Beltre because of his defense and power. Makes way too much sense for Texas to trade Olt, imo.
But I don’t see Texas trading Olt for someone like Teheran. Not when they need frontline pitching, not prospects – they already have Martin Perez and Robbie Ross who can fill the back of their rotation.
braveslifer
November 11th, 2012
11:21 am
It would seem that you would lose a lot of leverage as a GM if you said you would trade someone. By saying he is untouchable they are either trying to keep his value high or he is in fact untouchable. In Olt’s case with him being blocked by Beltre at 3b and Texas having DH shored up I think it is an attempt to keep his value high. There is nothing worse then having to trade someone and getting 75 cents on the dollar. That being said Teheran or Delgado don’t seem like who the Rangers would target unless they could use them in a package for an OFer like Upton.
Bravedan
November 11th, 2012
11:22 am
Efrim, I agree. I wish they’d take Hanson for him. Later, off to church I go.
Disgusted
November 11th, 2012
11:43 am
Among the free agents available as potentially affordable backup catchers are Gerald Laird, Rod Barajas, Ronny Paulino, Miguel Olivo, Matt Treanor, Brian Schneider and Kelly Shoppach.
DOB – Outside of Shoppach, and maybe Laird, that list is a hunk of junk.
Laird was a preminum defensive C, but his thowing out SB rate has dropped a bit from a few yrs ago. Still calls a good game so there is someting there.
No way would I want to see them pay more than MLB minimum for the rest of that has been and never was heap of whatever.
mikeywhitechips
November 11th, 2012
12:01 pm
i say we trade dugla for upton keep bourn and move prado back to 2nd where he belongs anyway
or trade him for the kid in detroit…he cant get on the field behind the triple crown winner anyway…we need a solid third baseman who can hit for power…under 30 and ugla does more bad then good…he and some of these pitchers can go…we have the best starting five and bullpen next yr if beachey bounces back to form
let all those guys in tripple AAA go …we need runs wren! runs! you built the pitching back to the braves standards now can we get some young bats!
Disgusted
November 11th, 2012
12:01 pm
If we lose Reed Johnson they could go for an Endy Chavez or Mitch Maier to fill the bench.
They are not that good but the price should be right.
Xavier Nady is on the list too — how about that 4 ur stud bat in LF??????? He used to be quite good.
Disgusted
November 11th, 2012
12:02 pm
mikey—-
We are not keeping Bourn and we are not getting Pagan. That is the way it is.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 11th, 2012
12:04 pm
Enjoy your day y’all, football games should be fun. Just remember……
9-0. Only 1 undefeated team left, which will be my Atlanta Falcons. Keep discounting them though…..
mikeywhitechips
November 11th, 2012
12:20 pm
saints in da upset …and yeah think bourn is a philli …damn…damn…damn…..but get elsbury if u gonna trade for a white centerfielder…still get the upton boys and we will be all right
just trade a pitcher and uggla get rid of dan hes to old and makes to many vital mistakes….we have sooooooooo many young pitchers waiting in the wind …trade a few ….and what about this catcher slash OF is he really gonna be able to make the jump and crush the ball in the majors? re-sign christian and be done with it already …the kids got a canon and can hit
Russell Bell
November 11th, 2012
1:17 pm
Why would the skin color of our CFer make a difference? Why would the Braves organization target a ‘white centerfielder’ in a trade?
You sound like a complete tool mikeywhitechips. Or maybe just a troll tryin to stir up some nonsense.
George_George
November 11th, 2012
1:23 pm
DONUT is a FLASH IN THE PANTS. Who would want him? I want ROSS till we make sure BRIAN will be back strong. But I will not have ROSS, he will be rakeing for BO SOX. Thank you FRANK.
Disgusted
November 11th, 2012
1:39 pm
Falcons tackling like flat footed dummies — the defense deserves to be Booed.
Dum Dum penalty by Asante Samuel changed the momentum of this game — don’t like what is happening and this is the day the Falcons are ripe for loss number one.
Very BUMB. Saints making plays — Falcons muck up after a dominating start.
This game deserves to be Booed.
Disgusted
November 11th, 2012
1:44 pm
Why would the skin color of our CFer make a difference? Why would the Braves organization target a ‘white centerfielder’ in a trade?
Agreed Russell Bell — we do not need that kind of crap on the blog. That kind of stuff needs to be deleted.
I detest that crap. Really do. I am into Win Power, trade or sign the best man whosover that might be.
And right now the Falcons D is not playing like the best men on the field. They deserve to be Booed. BUMBS. LOsing — this is a disgrece.
Bad weekend in ATL pro sports — thank goodness for UGA and Tech football this weekend.
Half Empty
November 11th, 2012
1:44 pm
Whether it is Janish or someone else, the Braves are almost certain to have one low hitting, good defending back up infielder, they almost always do.
Half Empty
November 11th, 2012
1:45 pm
I thought you promised not to boo them anymore?
richbrave
November 11th, 2012
1:48 pm
vv
richbrave
November 11th, 2012
1:53 pm
Nowhere man
November 11th, 2012
10:08 am
“……If they braves had offered Ross two years at 5m he is still a brave…….”
Exactly my offer – 2.5 per, but be prepared to go as high as necessary to sign him.
Again, I think the overall strength and depth of the team are diminished by his leaving. I consider this a significant loss.
richbrave
November 11th, 2012
1:54 pm
What has skin color got to do with anything?
Half Empty
November 11th, 2012
1:59 pm
I’m not sure how a back up catcher is worth whatever it takes to sign him, or is a significant loss. put the money where it is needed most in starting outfielders
and they most likely did offer him a raise
DiamondbackMac
November 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
richbrave – What has skin color got to do with anything?
It’s a great indicator of melanin production.
Disgusted
November 11th, 2012
2:33 pm
The Falcons are back to their old ways.
Jake W.
November 11th, 2012
2:49 pm
The falcons are a little nicked up and it may be finally catching up to them. Our defense was never great but now they are taking on a few injuries, at least only Grimes is season ending.
Jake W.
November 11th, 2012
2:52 pm
Saints always had a great offense, I know Julio is hurt, but our offense has to do better against a team like the saints.
Jake W.
November 11th, 2012
3:01 pm
The saints can stop the run and not much else. Put the ball in Ryan’s hands. Not great game planning. You’re in a track meet, act like it.
nolie
November 11th, 2012
3:07 pm
Buyer’s guide: Catchers
Intriguing free agents and trade targets among backstops
By Keith Law | ESPN Insider
Mike Napoli is a solid option as long as you don’t ask him to be a full-time catcher.
I only had two full-time catching options on my ranking of the top 50 free agents this offseason, and Russell Martin is on the cusp of full-time status, with only A.J. Pierzynski, who is about to turn 36 and coming off a fluky power spike, above him. It’s a terribly thin market that will probably leave several teams calling out-of-work NHL goalies to see if they might be available to spend 30-40 games behind the plate next season. Here are some part-time options in free agency I’d look, at as well as four young catchers who might be dealt this winter.
Part-time options
• Mike Napoli: I’d take a flier on the bat, but he’s not an everyday catcher, period. It’s not clear he can hold up physically, or that he can play the position regularly without affecting his offense, or that you would actually want his glove back there 120-plus times a year. But as a part-time catcher, more-time DH, he’s a good option for a team with a better regular catcher and a need for extra offense.
• Kelly Shoppach: You don’t see many straight left/right platoons behind the plate, with teams typically managing their catchers by pairing them up with specific starting pitchers, but Shoppach is so vulnerable to the slider away from right-handers that his best role is as the short half of a traditional platoon. He’s a career .267/.358/.510 hitter against southpaws; at any other position, there’d be a significant market for his services even though he probably wouldn’t crack 200 at-bats in a season. He’s a good match for a team willing to be creative behind the plate and use an extra roster spot on catching. Also, he needs to go back to Boston so I can hear fans there say “Shoppach” again.
• David Ross: Ross hasn’t seen 200 plate appearances in a season since 2007. At age 36, he’s not about to blossom into an everyday guy, but he’s a capable backup with some pop, a decent eye, and some ability to control the running game, nailing 40 percent of would-be base stealers since he joined Atlanta in 2009. For up to $2 million, he’s a good 40-50 games a year option who won’t kill you if your starting catcher gets hurt for an extended period.
Trade targets
• J.P. Arencibia, Toronto Blue Jays: I’m on record as saying Travis d’Arnaud wears the mantle of the Jays’ catcher of the future, although the last time he tried to put it on, he strained both shoulders and tore a hamstring. Arencibia is probably a backup but has enough power to be a short-term regular for clubs without a clear starter behind the plate. Given 500 at-bats — I’d say plate appearances, but for Arencibia those terms are equivalent — he’ll hit 20-25 homers with a sub-.300 OBP and adequate defense. That’s not exciting, but in a league where catchers hit an aggregate .243/.311/.399, Arencibia does have positive value.
• Devin Mesoraco, Cincinnati Reds: Dusty Baker loves to bury young players, and Mesoraco was no exception, playing down to expectations after losing what should have been his starting job in spring training. He had three straight seasons of strong offensive performances in the minors, with the swing and eye to maintain that in the majors, and he threw out at least 25 percent of opposing runners in each of those seasons. He’s still just 24 years old and needs to play every day for someone. If the Reds won’t give him those at-bats, they’re wasting asset value by leaving him on their bench.
• Hank Conger, Los Angeles Angels: Speaking of young players who can’t get a shot, Conger is so buried that some other team is going to have to start fracking in Anaheim to find him. He’s 25 and has yet to get even a half-season’s worth of at-bats in the majors. The Angels have devalued him to some extent by refusing to play him, and extending Chris Iannetta (a solid move) just solidifies their lack of faith in Conger to be more than a backup. He might not be a true switch-hitter, as he has never hit lefties well, but he could at least be the heavy side of a platoon. Come to think of it, he and Kelly Shoppach together could be a very productive Frankencatcher for some team that doesn’t want to punt the position entirely.
• Jason Hagerty, San Diego Padres: The Padres are in an odd spot, with their starting catcher, Yasmani Grandal, suspended 50 games to start the season after a positive testosterone test. (And folks said Mat Latos was the guy with bad makeup.) They’ll probably patch in the meantime with Nick Hundley, and their long-term catcher is probably defensive whiz Austin Hedges, who’ll start 2013 in high Class A and whose glove and arm are ready for the majors right now.
Hagerty, who posted a .728 OPS at Triple-A last year, has a chance to be a good big league backup who gets on base and makes a lot of contact, although a sore left shoulder limited his bat from the right side for much of 2012. He’s a switch-hitter with a little more extension and potential power hitting left-handed, although his right-handed swing is smoother. If healthy, the 25-year-old could easily start 2013 on someone’s Opening Day roster, and I think there’s a small chance he ends up a starter at his peak.
Venice Jim
November 11th, 2012
3:08 pm
Not a great day to be a Giants’ fan and have the Falcons as my 2nd favorite…
brian
November 11th, 2012
3:12 pm
If we are looking for a 3B prospect Ina trade, I think we would have a better shot with Colorado or Detroit than with Texas.
Bravedan
November 11th, 2012
3:17 pm
Wow, not much going on since I left.
richbrave
November 11th, 2012
3:33 pm
Half Empty
November 11th, 2012
1:59 pm
“…..I’m not sure how a back up catcher is worth whatever it takes to sign him, or is a significant loss. put the money where it is needed most in starting outfielders
and they most likely did offer him a raise…..”
Well, your problem not mine. When you’re sure get back to me.
BFChris28
November 11th, 2012
3:43 pm
Got to meet Jeff Bates at my church last night, he did a benefit concert and it was amazing!!! He is an awesome guy. His story is very tremendously touching. He is simply amazing.
Bat Masterson
November 11th, 2012
3:58 pm
Dissapointing set of downs at the goal line
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
November 11th, 2012
3:59 pm
To all my (Heroes) brothers and sisters in harms way……God speed and keep you all safe this Veterans day!
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
November 11th, 2012
4:01 pm
As of today, we don’t know who our starting catcher, back up catcher, left fielder or center fielder is going to be……….lots of work to do on the part of Frank Wren and company.
Ward
November 11th, 2012
4:03 pm
Hello everyone! Giants will lose, but just have to ride the wave.
Ward
November 11th, 2012
4:05 pm
I hope Wren, will say no the catchers on the Free Agents list, because I don’t like any of them, and think it would be better to get one in a via – trade.
Ward
November 11th, 2012
4:08 pm
Most of the catchers on the Free Agent Market, never had a prime.
Mixxo
November 11th, 2012
4:14 pm
Falcons looked like their ATL brethren (Braves) today.
Typical.
Jake W.
November 11th, 2012
4:15 pm
Falcons shot themselves in the foot over and over again. That game was winnable and we just made dumb penalties and dumb plays. Oh well, on to next week. Need to continue to play well to get a first round bye. This team didn’t bring their best at all this game but its just one game in the regular season. Learn from it and move on.
Bat Masterson
November 11th, 2012
4:24 pm
Yep, shoulda won, didn’t.
I never thought the ‘72 Dolphins were in much danger, anyway.
Disgusted
November 11th, 2012
4:33 pm
Falcons did not play terribly bad today but they played dumb with the silly undisciplined penalties.
And they cost themselves. End of story. They deserve to be Booed.
Jake W.
November 11th, 2012
4:36 pm
No longer undefeated, that pressure is off. Never really the big goal of the falcons anyway or at least not their fans. 3rd and short is killing us. That’s on the run game. Turner isn’t what he was. He’ll break a few runs here and there but how much can we keep going to the run and failing so miserably on short yardage plays. Have to improve that. Seeing to much of Matt Bryant.
Jake W.
November 11th, 2012
4:36 pm
No longer undefeated, that pressure is off. Never really the big goal of the falcons anyway or at least not their fans. 3rd and short is killing us. That’s on the run game. Turner isn’t what he was. He’ll break a few runs here and there but how much can we keep going to the run and failing so miserably on short yardage plays. Have to improve that. Seeing to much of Matt Bryant.
Disgusted
November 11th, 2012
4:38 pm
There are a couple of those guys on the FA list that were not bad players in their prime such as Navarro and Schneider, but they are not much now.
Navarro is still young not sure what happened to his game. Don;t know if it was injuries or what.
Would not give any more than a half mill for one yr for either one.
Bat Masterson
November 11th, 2012
4:47 pm
boo ……
Yeah, my heart ain’t really in it
Ward
November 11th, 2012
4:59 pm
People who boo their own teams are disgusted like disgusted usually is…..little humor
Ward
November 11th, 2012
5:05 pm
At least when Digusted writes his post, they fit his name…..
Half Empty
November 11th, 2012
5:13 pm
not my problem at all old man, you need to get real
Half Empty
November 11th, 2012
5:22 pm
Kelly Shoppach:, hits lefties pretty well according to the ESPN Insider article
DOB Gotta Go Sometime
November 11th, 2012
5:33 pm
http://www.xmasjam.com/2012/
Sheryl Crow, Five Blind Boys, String Cheese Incident, another great jam taking place December 15th in Asheville NC.
Ward
November 11th, 2012
5:38 pm
Braves could be in talks with Tampa Bay, Boston, and Arizona. Keep an eye out for a possible three way trade?
Lemme See If I Understand
November 11th, 2012
5:45 pm
Braves gonna have a 90 mil payroll and can’t squeeze 3.5 mil per year for a couple of years for Rossy?
Something stinks here.
Disgusted
November 11th, 2012
5:48 pm
I hope they are not talking about Jacoby Ellsbury — injury prone, FA after ‘13 and a Scott Borass client.
No way he fits in here.
As for the Falcons — guess its time to move on & not make so many dum dum penalties vs Arizona.
Its not the loss — well, it is the loss that irks me but the dum dum penalties were the reason for it.
Coulda Woulda Shoulda — that was one of those games.
Next week we need ZERO dum dum penalties.
Jake W.
November 11th, 2012
5:57 pm
Might want to use Snelling more over Turner. Would be nice to see if its just the offensive line blocking badly or Turner not being as good. Figure it out now before we get to that one and done part of the year.
A lot of the talking heads jumping back on the saints bandwagon, they dug themselves a hole but they have a shot. I don’t think they make it. The east is down outside of the giants and the North likely gets at least one wild card,but Seattle is quietly playing well. Think they have an easier road to a wild card than the saints.
Ward
November 11th, 2012
5:57 pm
Keep an eyeout for the Rays, andBraves tobe in the mix of Justin Upton.
Ward
November 11th, 2012
5:59 pm
I’ll just type it better. Braves, and Rays could be involved with Arizona?
Ward
November 11th, 2012
6:03 pm
All, I’ll talk later tonight, and Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Efrim
November 11th, 2012
6:42 pm
Doesn’t a three team trade that gets the Rays – Upton, D-Backs – Andrus and Rangers – Shields make some sense?
Efrim
November 11th, 2012
6:56 pm
Just thinking about it more, if we ended up trading for 3B Olt and CF Gentry, what would the payroll be – $75 million? Assuming those were the starters at those positions…
Vabravesfan
November 11th, 2012
6:58 pm
best case scenario for the Braves is landing Justin Upton but its not gonna happen.
Efrim
November 11th, 2012
7:00 pm
I guess Gentry could be the 4th outfielder and we can go get either Pagan or Victorino…..
Woody Woodward
November 11th, 2012
7:00 pm
Falcons do not “deserve to be booed.” They lost by four to the saints in NO. Geez. Sure, they had two shots at the end, but one game does not a season make. They’ve been playing very smart, mistake free ball til today.
Efrim
November 11th, 2012
7:02 pm
Va, probably because we don’t have enough in our system. And we don’t want to give up Andrelton Simmons – which is very understandable.
Bat Masterson
November 11th, 2012
7:04 pm
Peace, Ward.
Vabravesfan
November 11th, 2012
7:07 pm
i wouldnt mind Olt and Gentry, and Victorino. We would have plenty of combinations for CF,LF, and 3B. We’d still have plenty of money. Get Prado and Heyward locked up with extensions. Figure out the catching situation and possibly look at RH relievers.
74bravesjersey
November 11th, 2012
7:12 pm
Is Frank gonna attack the Hot Stove aggresively, or will they have Steve Martin play’n Wren in new movie “LowBall’ ?
74bravesjersey
November 11th, 2012
7:14 pm
Hey, BravesFanIn Nashville; you around?
Efrim
November 11th, 2012
7:14 pm
Unacceptable for the Niners to allow two fake punt 20 yard pass plays on 4th down. Ridiculous.
74bravesjersey
November 11th, 2012
7:20 pm
@Bravesdan; Would love to see Scott Hairston, have him & some way keep Reed Johnson, wishfuln think’n though.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 11th, 2012
7:47 pm
Not a great game from the Falcons today…. those goal-line possessions hurt.
Giants LOL! Beat by the bengals…
Need the Rams to beat the 9′ers and the Bears to lose, I’ll be happy. Can still make a case for the Falcons to be #1 if the Bears lose. Still definitely the #2 team though.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 11th, 2012
7:50 pm
Look at it though, lost by 4 points. We easily could have won that game. Probably better we lost now though… get the pressure off our back. Couldn’t see us winning all 16 anyway. Need a better run game, esp. in short-yardage situations.
Turner still sukks though, woulda canned him after last year. He is SO done.
George_George
November 11th, 2012
7:55 pm
richbrave
November 11th, 2012
3:33 pm
Half Empty
November 11th, 2012
1:59 pm
“…..I’m not sure how a back up catcher is worth whatever it takes to sign him, or is a significant loss. put the money where it is needed most in starting outfielders
and they most likely did offer him a raise…..”
Well, your problem not mine. When you’re sure get back to me.
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Problem with what Half Empty had to say is BRAVES don’t know how well BRIAN will play comming back from all his health issues, BRAVES should have signed ROSS.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 11th, 2012
8:01 pm
Bad penalty may save the Giants…