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Lew
November 10th, 2012
6:36 pm
Zing – Nah, the changes set the bar pretty high for compensation.
keyLargo
November 10th, 2012
7:00 pm
This has to be a trial for Gattis and/or Betancourt to determine what to do with McCann. I’ve never heard anyone on this blog say McCann is a better defensive catcher than Ross and this will give both minor league catchers a shot at hitting MLB pitching.
Ross at $3M or McCann at $15+ (in 2014) makes no sense at all. This is flat out try outs for other players.
brian
November 10th, 2012
7:08 pm
Braves have faltered recently and need a new direction. Maybe signing Trainor would be a start in a new direction….
If we keep choking, we will just sign players with hot wives, especially one that can help bring other hotties to the ATL in women’s beach volleyball tourneys. Miss the old units though
brian
November 10th, 2012
7:09 pm
As great a backup catcher Ross is, he is not an everyday starting catcher
brian
November 10th, 2012
7:11 pm
As said earlier, if the Braves address CF and LF well and not cheaply, we just need a good defensive back up catcher hitting 8th
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 10th, 2012
7:15 pm
Sorry Bama friends…. hope this doesn’t hurt the Dawgs when they win the SEC Championship game. SEC needs to be represented in the big game. Wouldn’t be right otherwise!
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 10th, 2012
7:18 pm
even though I’m sure that there will be no SEC team in the game, barring some miracle. Just sukks man.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
7:19 pm
The ESPN guys and the rest of the country just got their Christmas wish early. Alabama looses so now, assuming the 3 undefeated “dont play nobodys” will have a shot at the National Tilte Game!
Jake W. (The original)
November 10th, 2012
7:19 pm
Still think an SEC team makes it to the final, highly doubt its UGA, although with bama’s defense you never know.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
7:23 pm
I hate to do it but I’m gonna have to pull for USC haed a couple times soon!
Mark
November 10th, 2012
7:23 pm
I hate to do it but I’m gonna have to pull for USC haed a couple times soon!
George_George
November 10th, 2012
7:23 pm
What was FRANK WREN thinking when he let DAVID ROSS get away? FRANK should have remembered BRIAN is comming off surgery. What if BRIAN does not recover well and comes back sometime next May and hits about .200 for the rest of season? GATTIS and BETANCOURT are not yet ready for primetime. WOE are BRAVES with lighthitting BOSCAN as everyday catcher till BRIAN might comeback. The winner here is DAVID ROSS 6.2 MIL DAVID can truely say “Baseball has been very very good to me”. DAVID “have a great year with BO SOX show FRANK his big mistake of 2012″.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 10th, 2012
7:24 pm
If ND makes it all, I’ll be pizzed. If K-State plays Oregon, boycott.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 10th, 2012
7:26 pm
Lame Kiffin…. Did wrong by UT, had the scandal last week and they still couldn’t win! And how is 62-51 a football game? That’s a college basketball score. Seriously. They play in a weak conference and their stats don’t look all that good. Thank goodness they lost early, sparing us from all the USC is so great talk.
Jake W. (The original)
November 10th, 2012
7:27 pm
Hopefully my falcons make it 9-0 tomorrow. Could care less about going undefeated, just want to be one of the teams to clinch a bye for the wild card round.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
7:30 pm
Neuter Lame, Pansy State and Oregan quaks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another reason this polling and bowl stuff is rediculous. I wish the SEC would advertise the SEC Championship as the Real Championship!
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 10th, 2012
7:32 pm
Agree Jake. Falcons have been the bright spot of this fall since the Braves loss.
keyLargo
November 10th, 2012
7:35 pm
Three nobody undefeated teams playing for the NCAA Championship? Isn’t that what we’ve been trying to avoid for a decade now?
Jake W. (The original)
November 10th, 2012
7:39 pm
Notre Dame is a sentimental favorite to make the big game, but K-State has made the biggest statement for it. Oregon has to me played the weakest schedule of the undefeated teams. ND literally has been living on a prayer, I doubt they keep it up but I think K-State and Oregon might and that could be the big game. Still won’t bet on it though, not after last year. Bama could very well sneak back in there.
George_George
November 10th, 2012
7:42 pm
Who the heck is the DONUT GUY y’all are talkin about? I never heard of him, think he is just a FLASH IN THE PANTS.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
7:42 pm
Rest of the country wont accept that the competition matterst. Try to justify these undefeated teams when they have to get up for 1 or 2 games a year when SEC plays them 6 or 7 weeks a year.
Neuter almost looses to Pitt. Pitt lost to Yougstown State or somebody.
Quacks play nobody and gives up many points
Pansy State, please.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 10th, 2012
7:47 pm
Mark-
so true…
George- I assume you’re talking about Ryan Doumit?
Mark
November 10th, 2012
7:48 pm
Biggest problem for SEC is Herb Street and Mark May. Both played for the always over rated Yankee Schools – Ohio State(the same state that triggered 4 more years of Christmas for the unemployed…) and Michigan – See Ohio!
Sorry about the politics reference. Wont do anymore
Rob from sc
November 10th, 2012
7:53 pm
I love David Ross, but letting him go at that price was the correct idea. We have an extremely cheap ownership group. We have limited resources, need to spend what we have on bigger needs.
Jake W. (The original)
November 10th, 2012
7:56 pm
If Bama doesn’t make it to the title game they have nobody to blame but themselves. They survive their toughest game of the year and then come home and play like that. No politics needed to see that. People can hate all they want on the SEC but the good usually rise to the top. Bama just didn’t get it done. That’s on them, now they have to sit back and hope the other teams fall.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
8:00 pm
Thats right but the other nondefeated teams played nobody the last 2 weeks. When you have to play tough games back to back it wears teams down. But, the players know that and thats why the better ones still choose SEC schools and then go to the NFL in much larger numbers than Neuter Lame ….
Jake W. (The original)
November 10th, 2012
8:06 pm
With the BCS that’s the deal. Virtually any team that goes undefeated in the SEC these days is guaranteed a spot in the National Championsip Game. No other conf. gets that kind of credit. I still feel the SEC is the toughest conf. but under the present BCS system you know the deal and Bama probably just blew their shot. That’s on them.
BravesFan1984
November 10th, 2012
8:10 pm
Mark, not exactly sure what you’re talking about, but k-state and notre dame have both played a stronger schedule than alabama…may not be much more stronger but they have
Mark
November 10th, 2012
8:15 pm
No doubt Bama is done regarding the “National Championship” unless the other ones lose. If 2 of the 3 lose to somebody then the SEC 1 loss Champion could get in.
Regardless, maybe an SEC team will get matched up against any of those 3 present undefeated. Would love to see Bama, UGA, LSU, Florida…matched up against ND, O, or KSt . That would be great.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
8:20 pm
BravesFan
I dont buy what they are selling when they say that. The reason, we aren’t talking about traditional teams they rank highly because this year those teams suck. Who have they played thats any good this year? Oklahoma, USC, Michigan, Texas…
Plus, I just look at the speed difference between the teams and its not even close.
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
8:27 pm
they already have a good fourth outfielder in Johnson if they renew him
Sneaky Pete — Just like the Ross scenario, we will be cheap and sign a lesser player to save $$$$$$$$$ as always.
Limited resources my tail — we have a corporate entiry that is plain cheap. So we lose players.
They do have a back up plan I am sure — but not a very good one.
Braves to get shafted again in the Hot Stove league but what else is new.
nolie
November 10th, 2012
8:27 pm
So Ross is gone and our melodramatic subset sees it as a terrible thing, humm. I’m not surprised he left, they said the day after the WS ended that they had reached out to him, having heard nothing since I figgered things did not go along as hoped.
too bad but he is just a backup although a good one. Even with the extra money this season the need to spend it on the most important needs and that is in no way a second string catcher no matter how good.
Bat Masterson
November 10th, 2012
8:28 pm
Would love to see Bama, UGA, LSU, Florida…matched up against ND, O, or KSt . That would be great.
: lol :
Did you see the Gators game, today?
nolie
November 10th, 2012
8:28 pm
whatever the reason the Braves themselves have limited resources, doesn’t matter a whit what LM has
Bat Masterson
November 10th, 2012
8:29 pm
Bat Masterson
November 10th, 2012
8:30 pm
Tater_
Uh, what the hell, man.
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2012
8:30 pm
“DOB: Do the Braves get any draft compensation for Ross leaving?”
This was good for a great laugh! Had Braves offered Ross $13.3M and had he declined to take a $6.2M/2 year deal with the Sox, Braves would get a supplementary pick after the first round.
Alas, the Braves didn’t offer Rossy $13.3M. — abeeewright
Mr Wright is correct. To get draft-pick compensation, Braves would’ve had to offer Ross a one-year, $13.3 million contract.
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
8:31 pm
Nolie — Back Up catcher is more important for this yr cause Mac’s probably missing the first 30 to 40 games.
That extra money will be spend on platoon types to save money. If its really spent.
As usual, another sucky off season — but hey, does not mean we cannot compete again. We have been competitive in spite of LM and the parent company;s budget constraints.
I just don’t think we are going to do anything real exciting on paper.
Its not melodramatic — its the pattern of how the org is run.
What do we get a piece if junk like Treanor or 41 yr old Henry Blanco. Ya-ea that is a real back up plan.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
8:32 pm
There are an awful lot of very good defensive catchers to be had that have MLB experience. I love Rossy but seriously doubt he’ll hit as well as he did this year again and he cant play often and stay productive.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
8:34 pm
Bat
I didn’t but it happens when you line up week after week against tough SEC teams and then think you have an easy one.
However, I did see ND almost lose to Pitt who lost to Youngstown State!
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
8:35 pm
Alabama could be out of the SEC championship game — but I doubt they stink it up vs Auburn.
This week this is the Aarom Murray we have wanted to see. Near perfect game.
What in the $#%@ has really happened to Auburn — no way they could have been thought to be this bad.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 10th, 2012
8:36 pm
If we sign Treanor or Blanco, we may as well save that money and use Boscan or CBet. Seriously. Those guys would all hit about the same.
Doumit… Doumit.
nolie
November 10th, 2012
8:38 pm
Back Up catcher is more important for this yr cause Mac’s probably missing the first 30 to 40 games
it is NOWHERE near as important as the open starting position players, not even in the Yellowstone Park let alone any other
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2012
8:40 pm
Gattis had cooled some in Venezuelan League before tonight, when he hit his 6th homer (he’s played 25 games, has 18 RBI)
nolie
November 10th, 2012
8:40 pm
cripes TOBF has another obsession now……
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
8:40 pm
Gerald Laird was a great defensive catcher but has slipped.
Kelly Shoppach might be a proabbility.
There is also plenty of junk out there — like Treanor and ancient Henry Blanco.
Torrealba and Olivo are done — not much left.
We are screwed in the early going unless Mac is right pretty quickly.
And they are NOT going to get Pagan — a 2 yr rental like Span is about as good as you get for CF and LF will be a platoon type like Johnny Gomes or Hairston and they will flip flop Martin between third and Left while platooning Francisco and the platoon FA they get.
So much for your spending money this off yr.
In essence, on paper they will not be as good as last yrs team. Not bad, but not as good.
So much for premium players.
I think they will lose Marteen after 14 and B-Mac after 13. Therer is ur future.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
8:44 pm
The back up catcher thing is getting too much love.
Look at it this way. Our starting catcher hit 220 this year and was below average defensively. The team result was us losing in the Wildcard game. Not what we all wanted but not bad considering.
Backup catcher or even a defensive specialist playing the first 50 games or so will not doom us next year.
Now if Uggla hits 220 and leads the league in Ks and we get crap to take over for Chipper and Bourn then we are screwed but these will be the reason, not back upo catcher
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
8:45 pm
it is NOWHERE near as important as the open starting position players, not even in the Yellowstone Park let alone any other
Of course not — but its more important than usual cause you are starting the yr without your perennial All-Star for 30 or so games — who knows.
And I do NOT want Mac to rush it — I want the healthy Mc Cann out there.
Is this a disaster — No, not really but its an important loss & I do not trust this org to get a real priemium guy out there. They may, they may not.
At this time the Braves are not as good as they were when they left the field in the WC game.
They are weaker with the retired Chipper and the departed Ross & the assumed departure of Bourn.
Russell Bell
November 10th, 2012
8:45 pm
Not surprised by the blog over-reaction to Ross leaving.
Back up catcher. We’ll find another one.
Efrim
November 10th, 2012
8:46 pm
I know curiosity killed the cat but I wonder what Texas offered for Simmons, obviously not enough to entice Wren.
It wasn’t Jurickson Profar. And that’s pretty much the only player that would make sense to me.
Bat Masterson
November 10th, 2012
8:47 pm
Okay, Mark.
Still I’m not passing up any opportunities to take a shot at the Gators.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 10th, 2012
8:48 pm
It’s not all that important nolie, but it’s probably more important than normal. The BU catcher will play more games than usual I bet. 30-50 games to start the season, plus I’m sure Mac will get more off days than usual during the season. All season long, when people were trying to get rid of Mac, it was said that we wouldn’t want Ross or worse Boscan being the starting catcher. Ross is gone, we’re gonna need the backup to start for up to 1/3 of the season. I’d like to see some hitter out there. Otherwise, we may as well throw Boscan or CBet. I’d start CBet then. Let him get some MLB experience.
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2012
8:48 pm
Gerald Laird was a great defensive catcher but has slipped.
Kelly Shoppach might be a proabbility.
There is also plenty of junk out there — like Treanor and ancient Henry Blanco.
Torrealba and Olivo are done — not much left.
We are screwed in the early going unless Mac is right pretty quickly.
And they are NOT going to get Pagan — a 2 yr rental like Span is about as good as you get for CF and LF will be a platoon type like Johnny Gomes or Hairston and they will flip flop Martin between third and Left while platooning Francisco and the platoon FA they get.
So much for your spending money this off yr.
In essence, on paper they will not be as good as last yrs team. Not bad, but not as good.
So much for premium players. — Disgusted
Seriously, that’s funny stuff.
It’s Nov. 10, almost no team has made a move of significance involving a starting position player, and yet you’ve somehow figured out that the Braves aren’t actually going to spend their $25 million or so. Apparently you derived this from the fact they wouldn’t give a two-year, $6.2 million contract to the backup catcher, which would’ve doubled his previous salary.
Well done, disgusted. Keep your analysis coming, please.
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
8:48 pm
Now if Uggla hits 220 and leads the league in Ks and we get crap to take over for Chipper and Bourn then we are screwed but these will be the reason, not back upo catcher
@Mark — I do expect Uggla and Mac once he is healthy to be better than in 12, but I am sort of afraid that we are getting crap to take over fo Chipper, Bourn and the now departed Ross.
Given this baseball operations behavior in the Hot Stove league, that is a legit concern. Not a tradgedy, none of this is, but its a red flag that fans are justified in having.
keyLargo
November 10th, 2012
8:50 pm
DOB or somebody – how can UGA get into the National Champ Game? They would have to win the SEC and then get the highest seed of teams left. Who is that going to be?
Mark
November 10th, 2012
8:50 pm
I hear you Bat! I was attempting to defend the league rather than them too.
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2012
8:50 pm
Nolie — Back Up catcher is more important for this yr cause Mac’s probably missing the first 30 to 40 games.
That extra money will be spend on platoon types to save money. If its really spent.
As usual, another sucky off season — but hey, does not mean we cannot compete again. We have been competitive in spite of LM and the parent company;s budget constraints.
I just don’t think we are going to do anything real exciting on paper.
Its not melodramatic — its the pattern of how the org is run. — Disgusted
Oh, yes, it’s entirely melodramatic. And it’s spectacular. Please, don’t stop.
Efrim
November 10th, 2012
8:52 pm
I’d like them to go after Kelly Shoppach, rather than Gerald Laird.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
8:53 pm
Key
I think at least 2 of the 3 “play nobody undefeateds” have to lose and UGA needs to win impressively, like they are doing tonight, the rest of the year.
Efrim
November 10th, 2012
8:55 pm
Ross is a loss in the clubhouse, but come on, give me a break.
Are we calling it a season(2013) because we lost our backup catcher???
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
8:56 pm
Thanks DOB — I will keep the funny stuff comming.
I am not convinced they are spending the $$$$$$$. They might or might not but I believe it when I see it.
And after the market is set in FA, the price always goes up and up yr in and yr out — what is 25 mil really going to bring??????? I don’t know until the price of talent is set.
David O'Brien
November 10th, 2012
8:56 pm
Would love to see Bama, UGA, LSU, Florida…matched up against ND, O, or KSt . That would be great.
A year ago Texas A&M was in the Big 12 and had a 4-5 conference record. Today they went into Tuscaloosa and won. Controlled the game pretty much the whole way, right?
So we’re supposed to believe they couldn’t have done that if they were still in the Big 12? That they got that much better simply by switching conferences since last year? And that K-State, with its quarterback, couldn’t have done what Texas A&M did today?
brian
November 10th, 2012
8:56 pm
The braves are going to go after an impact player. Trouble is that there are not many in their range. Hamilton and Greinke will get far more than they are worth and their new teams will end p regretting the contracts long term.
Impact player will have to be a surprise trade like Ryan Braun or someone like that.
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
8:57 pm
No Efrim — the season is not shot –just a disaappointment seeing a popular player who was a presence and an assett go on, but I wish him well personally.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
8:57 pm
Disgusted
I respectfully disagree. Granted, not all deals work out but they usually do a good job of getting players that fit the budget. I think we’ll be pleasantly surprised when all is said and done. Now if it turns out I’m wrong, please remind me and I’ll eat that crow!
brian
November 10th, 2012
8:58 pm
Big 12 was and is the real deal as well. A close second to the SEC.
Welcome to the SEC A&M
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
9:00 pm
That will be a difficult move to make Brian. Not undoable but a long shot.
I hope they do something with our own young guys before we see them do a bye bye.
@Efrim — I’d rather see Kelly Shoppach over Gerald Laird too.
Wonder where Russell Martin winds up — maybe back with NYY.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
9:01 pm
Cmon DOB – I’m a homer and admit it. You are making way too muuch sense! Plus, I think the guy they have taking snaps this year, that wasn’t there last year, makes a real big difference and some of those other teams out there have fallen off kinda like UT and Auburn. We’ll see soon enough though I guess.
Efrim
November 10th, 2012
9:02 pm
Rod Barajas (37)
Henry Blanco (41)
Gerald Laird (33)
Dioner Navarro (29)
Miguel Olivo (34)
Ronny Paulino (32)
Humberto Quintero (33)
Brian Schneider (36)
Kelly Shoppach (33)
Chris Snyder (32)
Yorvit Torrealba (34)
Matt Treanor (37)
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
9:02 pm
Had UGA played SC competitively in that game we would have a stronger argument for the BCS game — but this has turned out to be a heck of a yr.
If we only had those suspended players the whole yr who knows how dominating they could have been. We will never know.
Just keep up the good work
nolie
November 10th, 2012
9:03 pm
they obviously just made room for Gattis to take us to the WS….
nolie
November 10th, 2012
9:05 pm
hear anything about Reed Johnson David?
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
9:05 pm
I respectfully disagree. Granted, not all deals work out but they usually do a good job of getting players that fit the budget. I think we’ll be pleasantly surprised when all is said and done. Now if it turns out I’m wrong, please remind me and I’ll eat that crow!
@Mark — That is fair and good. But if you are wrong I will not gloat. I’d rather that you be right.
Efrim
November 10th, 2012
9:09 pm
I think Shoppach really may be the only choice.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
9:10 pm
Disgusted
I wont forget and will tell everyone I was wrong about management!
Hope it works out well though as well. After all, if I want to have something to fuss about, I always have 3 more years and about 600 strikeouts worth of Dan “shave your forearms”Uggla left.
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
9:14 pm
I am one of those who is still confident in Uggla.
We will need him to come up big to make up for some of the losses this off season that I expect.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
9:16 pm
I will admit that I thought the Uggla deal was good at the time thoguh I did hate losing Omar. Never imagined after 2 years he’d be this bad. Hopefully, he’ll get back on track!
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
9:18 pm
Shoppach might be the best alternative out there.
There are guys out there who were regular catchers at one time whose game has slipped like Dionner Navarro and Brian Schneider. Not sure about them defensively or how banged up they are.
Then there are non-descript choices like 41 yr old Henry Blanco or Humerto Quintero who has a carreer OBP of around .275.
They just have to get through the first month or so. Or whenever Mac is healthy and right.
nolie
November 10th, 2012
9:19 pm
I thought it was a steal as did most in baseball. There was no reason to think he would tank so badly. hopefully he will regress toward his mean
Couch Tater
November 10th, 2012
9:21 pm
That they got that much better simply by switching conferences since last year?
No. They got better by switching coaches. Look at Sumlin’s record at Houston, last year. A&M knew they had to “man up” to play in the SEC. Went and hired him. heh
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
9:21 pm
I still have hope for Uggla because he was still taking his walks in spite of his slump.
And he did show some signs late in September — was starting to swing better.
He also did hit in some tough luck at times early in the slump.
I don’t think he will have that bad a run as he had for a 250 AB stretch.
And he never let his struggles affect his hustle, D, & seems to be a popular guy in the clubhouse.
That is why I am pulling for him.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
9:23 pm
He has to because the fact of the matter is had he performed the last two years like he always had we’d have definately played longer both years. Thats why I think Wren will find good pieces to fill Chipper and Bourn and now Ross. He does a good job, IMO
Mark
November 10th, 2012
9:27 pm
Neuter Dame flexing its muscle up 7 to 3 against Boston College:) Geez
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
9:36 pm
I hope the Irish get upset.
As for Uggla — I was not so down on his first yr here — I know it was only a 7 week stretch he carried them but when he did — he carried them. The 36 HRS were impressive.
We knew he would K alot and he was not a high avg hitter, but we did not expect the extremes we have witnessed,
He should be back to hitting at least in the .250-260 range while maintaining the OBP. Had he hit .250-260 he would be better received.
And you have to figure that Freddie Freeman will step his production up even more in yr three. Like he a 30 HR guy with 40 doubles. Who sez he cannot do it.
I am looking forward to seeing what Simmons can do for a full season. And I still want to keep Janish around. You need guys who can catch the ball.
Bat Masterson
November 10th, 2012
9:43 pm
Speaking of Uggla, where is Lou Vales
Mark
November 10th, 2012
9:46 pm
No way I’d keep Yawnish on the big club. Simply can’t hit enough. You can’t have guys that aren’t capable of coming off the bench and deliverying big pinch hits. That said, he is a valuable piece but hope he stays at Gwinnett and plays every day. Then if we have a middle infield injury again, send a taxi down and bring him up. There is a reason he was in the minors when we got him!
Powderfinger
November 10th, 2012
9:49 pm
Sorry, but Janish ain’t playing in the minors for any team next year. And I’m really disturbed that someone can’t see just how valuable he was for us this past season…
Mark
November 10th, 2012
9:51 pm
Powder
He did what he was brought here to do this year and did it well.
But, assuming Simmons stays healthy and Uggla is alive. What would his role be next year?
Gwd.sc
November 10th, 2012
9:56 pm
We should ask Kris Medlen for advice on getting his personal catcher.
Powderfinger
November 10th, 2012
9:58 pm
Mark—He would still be a utility infielder, and a darned good one at that. Every club needs at least two. He’d be a heckuva bargain at any reasonable price. Did you see how he played for us last season?
Mark
November 10th, 2012
10:03 pm
Powder
I did see and was proud for him. However, Simmons nor Uggla needs defensive replacements late in a game so he wont do that. But there will be occassions we will need to have a pinch hitter when the pitcher is due up and the go ahead run on 2nd. At that point you aren’t gonna want that last available pinch hitter to be Janish. Guys on the bench, have to be able to deliver hits.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m a big Janish fan for how he played for us defensively. But remember, he hit .200 and looked bad doing it.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 10th, 2012
10:07 pm
Janish will come on in the 8th to pinch-defend…… defensive replacement for Prado or Juan at 3rd or Uggla at 2nd.
Yeah, not seeing the fit. He can do his job just fine from Gwinnett. Bring him up if Simmons gets hurt. I mean we got him from AAA. And Id rather not have the bench effectively cut down to 4 guys, or really 3 since we dont/cant PHH our backup C (who may be some no hit tool like Boscan, geez) So umm yeah no Janish on MLB roster at least for me. We need hitting off the bench and our starting ss is a great defener.
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
10:12 pm
Mark — Janish saved alot of runs for us and as a U infielder you want a guy who catches the ball,
Jansih played Mark Belanger type of defense. I don’t know if he was that good at Cincinnati, but from what we saw and I am sure the defensive metrics attest to this — he had real value.
One year he did hit .260. Not saying he will do that but wow — he sure helped in a pinch.
We did not fall apart when Andy went down. And Simmons does have to be a bit more durable and learn to avoid the freak injuries. He can learn that.
Janish can drop down a bunt if we need to have him PH.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 10th, 2012
10:12 pm
We had Hinske, Wilson, and Diaz all sukk it up last year…. well if we have Janish and a non hitting catcher, we can improve on 1 bench spot.
mean, whats Janish gonna do? Be Hack Wilson w/out being a defensive replacement for SS? Guesss we do need a pinch bunter….
Bat Masterson
November 10th, 2012
10:14 pm
Good showing for the Dawgs……..
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
10:14 pm
Can Janish play another position though? We have not seen that,.
Mark
November 10th, 2012
10:17 pm
Disgusted
Think back to the final week or so before Simmons came back. We played Prado at SS. You can’t have 200 hitting position guys with no power making sitting on the bench.
Again, if Simmons were to get hurt on a Wednesday, Yawnish could be in the lineup by Thursday from Gwinnnet.
As for a bunt, Medlin or Hudson can do that better than Yawnish as well.
Disgusted
November 10th, 2012
10:20 pm
I guess the next target on the wish list is Kelly Shoppach for now.
Wonder what he will get — two mill for one yr. That is high but someone might pay that.
Powderfinger
November 10th, 2012
10:21 pm
We agree to disagree. I really hope Janish is with us for the foreseeable future. He is inexpensive bench help. We need to spend money elsewhere…
UKUGA
November 10th, 2012
10:24 pm
A&M’s improvement has a lot to do with bringing in an innovative offensive mind.
As the only Texas school in the SEC, they will become a legitimate national title threat year-in and year-out real soon.
It did not hurt them, at all, today that they played Alabama one week after BAMA played LSU. That’s life in the SEC. One week, you play the biggest game of the year, then the next week, you play one that’s even bigger.