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cricket
November 9th, 2012
4:31 pm
sign and trade melky for ellsbury – or stay away from him
nolie
November 9th, 2012
4:31 pm
I would give almost nothing for Ellsbury, so Willingham easily
Lew
November 9th, 2012
4:32 pm
Ellsbury missed over 230 games in 2010 and 2012 with injuries – twice in 10 with broiken ribs (different ribs at two different times – one on front and one in back). Last year he missed most of the season with a shoulder subluxation and missed more time with what was described as “general soreness”.
He’s great when he plays (not often) has only one year remaining on his contract and Boras is his agent and would likely cost a couple of players in return.
I say no way.
ncscoots
November 9th, 2012
4:35 pm
That’d be a killer OF. Williams, DiMaggio and Musial.
I wonder if you can tell, in the moment, the level of greatness you’re seeing, or if the suckers are just too good for one to mentally quantify it. I’ve watched Verlander pitch no-hitters and I know he’s a beast, but I’ve seen him take early showers, too. It lessens him as a deity, LOL. But I can visualize a teenager coming up to me years from now to say, “Wow. You saw Verlander??” in the same way I asked my father about DiMaggio.
P-Town Brave ©
November 9th, 2012
4:35 pm
Asking a high strung person to calm down and take it easy is about as good as placing a pipe and bag of crack in front of an addict and asking them not to smoke it….
Murph
November 9th, 2012
4:36 pm
Nothing but red flags with Ellsbury. No no no.
DAP
November 9th, 2012
4:39 pm
RC would Ellsbury be the first Native American baseball player to play on the Braves?
of course not. most of our players are native Americans. several are even native Georgians.
P-Town Brave ©
November 9th, 2012
4:40 pm
You think that OF is rich, you should see the team I have built in this Dynasty Baseball game they have on FB…
cricket
November 9th, 2012
4:40 pm
funny -
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8603746/tim-tebow-lost-emails
DS1
November 9th, 2012
4:42 pm
RC
I was thinking about Bourn and Tex primarily. But I’d still stay away from dealing for any Boras client that I had ANY designs on keeping beyond his current contract.
Boras is a tool. He get’s his guys the cash, but that don’t mean I have to be one of the suckers paying him.
Murph
November 9th, 2012
4:42 pm
What game is that, PT?
cricket
November 9th, 2012
4:43 pm
Asking a high strung person to calm down and take it easy is about as good as placing a pipe and bag of crack in front of an addict and asking them not to smoke it…
yes, you are supposed to say – calm the eff down
ncscoots
November 9th, 2012
4:43 pm
On another note…
If you know a veteran, look them up Monday. Handshake and a cuppa coffee, or lunch. Something. They gave Wayne the ability to grouse Tuesday night, and me the ability to needle him about FOX News.
I’m pretty sure you can come up with a reason to thank one or two of them, also.
keyLargo
November 9th, 2012
4:49 pm
Murph – I’ve got a bored and stroked 454 (to 501) with the torque converter and and TH 400 tranny built to go with it. It was built for a 72 Short Bed GMC and the numbers match on it. Project fell through and the whole thing is up in N. GA. 550 HP.
P-Town Brave ©
November 9th, 2012
4:49 pm
In fact, here’s my roster:
C – Buster Posey (10.17 rating)
1B – Jeff Bagwell (12.92)
2B – Chase Utley (13.59)
SS – Jose Reyes (10.83)
3B – Bill Madlock (10.43)
LF – Ichiro Suzuki (14.15)
CF – Bo Jackson (11.25)
RF – Roberto Clemente (12.83)
DH – Mo Vaughn (12.97)
Mind you some of the guys are elevated based on having the same focus as my manager (Instincts)
And my staff:
Verlander (13.58)
Greinke (13.92)
Hamels (13.58)
Cain (11.83)
Kershaw (11.75) —- yes Kershaw is my #5 starter
MR- Tom Gordon (10.33), Joe Nathan (11.58)
SET – Huston Street (11.00)
CL – Billy Wagner (13.67)
I also started w/ players in the 4 ratings….so i’ve come a long ways since then…..and while not actually paying attention and watching much of the results its been fun because players are all tied to dollar values and the idea is the make the best team out there playing other people in the FB world as well as past great MLB teams….
I recommend it if you have FB and a few minutes extra per day.
Powderfinger
November 9th, 2012
4:50 pm
Amen, scoots…
P-Town Brave ©
November 9th, 2012
4:51 pm
Cricket-
I don’t know why, but when you said that, all I could think of was Keitel in Reservoir Dogs…
“Everything’s gonna be ok……say the damn words”
Murph
November 9th, 2012
5:00 pm
keylargo, if I ever get going on my project car I’ll keep you in mind.
BravePack(FreeFan)
November 9th, 2012
5:01 pm
So now we want to trade young prospects for a 1 year rental who is hurt every year? I like Ellsbury as a player but man the kid is hurt ALL the time. Like DS1 said if we traded for him it would have to be with an extension in place and agreement which with Boras is highly unlikely.
Murph
November 9th, 2012
5:09 pm
Am I the only one who views Ellsbury’s 2011 season with suspicion? Look at his numbers in the minors and then throughout his MLB career… not much precedence for a guy making a jump like that in the power department.
I hate that the steroid era has made me look at anyone who goes on a power binge as suspect, but them’s the times we’re livin’ in.
keyLargo
November 9th, 2012
5:09 pm
Motor/TorqueConverter/Transmission is complete. New rods, pistons, crank, etc. The 72 GMC frame and body just was in too bad of shape. I was three years into it by then and lost interest. I’ll never forget how those high HP, high torque motors sounded though, idling especially.
DS1
November 9th, 2012
5:44 pm
You can always tell when it’s dinner time back east………. the blog shuts down for a while.
old man
November 9th, 2012
5:51 pm
TOBF:
Francisco’s numbers have IMPROVED in direct relation to the amount of playing time. Not sure why you say his numbers versus righties will go down with more playing time.
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
6:01 pm
ESPN’s Winter Forecast for the Braves
I’m skipping most of what we know already.
Outlook
The Braves have some tough decisions to make. Third base is an incredibly tough position to fill at the moment, and they just lost Chipper Jones, one of the best third basemen ever to play the game. With the Nationals poised to repeat, the Braves cannot be passive this offseason and hope to compete for another one-game wild-card playoff. As a result, GM Frank Wren should be very active this winter and the Braves should have some distinct new faces when their opening day roster is unveiled.
However, the Braves’ young nucleus will be the driving force behind the team and will be most responsible for the team’s success or failure. Heyward, Freeman, Beachy and Medlen all need to continue to be big contributors if the Braves want to compete with the Nats and simultaneously swat away the Phillies, Marlins and Mets.
Losing Jones will be difficult, but the Braves have the personnel that could easily turn the page and begin a new era of Atlanta Braves prosperity.
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
6:09 pm
ESPN’s Dan Szymborski has our 2013 Projection
2012: 94-68
Preliminary 2013 projection: 89-73
The Braves start, at least in ZiPS’s estimation, a hair behind the Nationals entering the offseason. Atlanta’s owner, Liberty Media, has generally eschewed an aggressive investment approach in the Braves, so it seems unlikely that the team will be seriously competitive for the services of Josh Hamilton, though he’s one of the better fits for the team.
More likely, the Braves will play it a bit more quietly, exploring the second tier of free agents and possibly some trade targets such as Denard Span of the Twins, assuming Minnesota notices that the team isn’t going to compete in 2013.
Even without a big signing, one shouldn’t underestimate Atlanta’s position. Freddie Freeman and Jason Heyward both retain tremendous upside and a full season of Andrelton Simmons is a tremendous boost.
Jair Jurrjens and Brandon Beachy are listed for informative purposes, rather than any huge impact on the 2013 Braves. Jurrjens is likely headed out of town and certainly out of the rotation — a year too late as the Braves waffled on trading him for so long — and Beachy’s rehab timetable still has him missing the majority of 2013. Atlanta’s rotation improvement will be based on the possibility of better seasons from Tommy Hanson and Mike Minor, and Kris Medlen maintaining most of his 2012 gains, but it’s worth remembering Beachy for 2014.
Here’s a few player projections
Heyward 265/341/472
Freeman 274/350/476
McCann 258/338/441
Prado 286/334/420
Uggla 238/334/414
Simmons 278/323/382
Medlen 3.35 ERA 144 INN
Minor 4.01 ERA 171 INN
Hanson 3.87 ERA 169 INN
Huddy 3.61 ERA 169 INN
Maholm 4.02 ERA 167 INN
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
6:12 pm
ESPN’s Jim Bowden has 7 trade idea’s involving Jacoby Ellsbury and were the 1st team on his list.
1. Atlanta Braves | trade targets: SS Nick Ahmed, RHP Julio Teheran
The first place to look is the NL East, where the Braves, Washington Nationals and Philadelphia Phillies are all looking for short- and long-term solutions for center field. The Braves are set at shortstop for years to come with Andrelton Simmons, which makes Ahmed expendable. Ahmed, 22, was the Braves’ second-round pick in the 2011 draft and had a solid year at high Class A Lynchburg both offensively and defensively. He stole 40 bases. Teheran remains the Braves’ top pitching prospect, and once his command and control arrive, he should be a solid No. 2 or No. 3 starter for years to come.
If the Red Sox could add Teheran to the young starters they acquired in the blockbuster deal with the Los Angeles Dodgers last summer (Allen Webster and Rubby De La Rosa), it would be a huge step forward in their retooling. Ellsbury would take Bourn’s spot in center field and keep the Braves primed for another postseason berth in 2013.
nolie
November 9th, 2012
6:25 pm
Wren is not fool enough to give up Teheran + for Ells
nolie
November 9th, 2012
6:27 pm
DS1 that Ford Fairlane with the metal roof was called a Skyliner I think
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
November 9th, 2012
6:28 pm
Hey, I just looked it up out of morbid curiosity—5 years ago to the minute, I posted on the Blog for the first time…
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
6:29 pm
Francisco’s numbers have IMPROVED in direct relation to the amount of playing time. Not sure why you say his numbers versus righties will go down with more playing time.
His BABIP vs righties is higher than the average babip for the average hitter. His BABIP vs lefties is average, so those numbers will stay the same. Even looking at platoon hitters like Cody Ross and Seth Smith, their BABIP is in the average range, while they still put up good numbers.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
November 9th, 2012
6:30 pm
Curse the internet! That was s’posed to post @ 6:27…
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
6:30 pm
nolie
I agree, now maybe if Ellsbury was under control for the 2014 season as well that would make a little more sense. His value is pretty low at the moment so I really doubt there able to make a trade there happy with.
nolie
November 9th, 2012
6:32 pm
well welcome aboard McFann 2007 !!
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
6:33 pm
you old…..
nolie
November 9th, 2012
6:33 pm
yeah like the old man is gonna buy babip
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
6:37 pm
I think I first posted sometime in 2008 or 09
nolie
November 9th, 2012
6:39 pm
McFann was that when the blog could only go to 1000 or so posts B4 David had to rewrite it, or was it like it is now?
Powderfinger
November 9th, 2012
6:45 pm
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô: Happy Anniversary! Treat yourself to whatever it is that makes you happy (besides a certain portly backstop). As I recall, wouldn’t that be a frozen treat from some fast food establishment like, say, Burger King?
Heath
November 9th, 2012
6:46 pm
Ellsbury for top Braves talent = no
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
November 9th, 2012
6:53 pm
nolie—
Yes, that was back in the day!…
I do remember it blowing up at least once…good times… 
Powderfinger—
Thank you.
I did have one of those with lunch, not even thinking it was an “occasion”… 
VaBravesFan—
Nice!…
Efrim
November 9th, 2012
6:54 pm
Wren is not fool enough to give up Teheran + for Ells
Honestly, I don’t think Wren would give up Teheran for Willingham, Span, Ellsbury, etc.
Justin Upton or some other young, long term piece(at least 3 years)? Yes.
keyLargo
November 9th, 2012
6:55 pm
Curse the internet! That was s’posed to post @ 6:27… McFann
You did it right McFann. It usually took it about 5 minutes to go through the computer and show up back then.
Nowhere man
November 9th, 2012
6:58 pm
Schafer
Prado
Heyward
McCann
Freeman
Uggla
Francisco
simmons
Medlen.
Opening day 2013
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
6:58 pm
Efrim
Any other players you can think of that they might be interested in that haven’t been mentioned? Cause when I go threw all the names we talked about the only one’s that make sense are Denard Span and Josh Willingham. Most of the others will be too expensive or cost to much in trade. Also gotta factor in that Wren is only interested in Premium players so that leaves me scratching my head. Maybe Cody Ross or Angel Pagan are premium player to Wren, certainly not for me.
Nowhere man
November 9th, 2012
6:59 pm
Maybe Carroll will write a new blog
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
7:01 pm
Hell just go the cheap route and sign Jason Bay for LF, he can split time with Jose Constanza… Cunningham and Schafer can split time in CF…. LOL Actually signing Jason Bay would be similar to when we signed Troy Glaus.
Nowhere man
November 9th, 2012
7:02 pm
This for Jim. Wahhhhhhhhhh I want a new blog
nolie
November 9th, 2012
7:02 pm
why Carroll?
nolie
November 9th, 2012
7:03 pm
better get used to it, blogs don’t get written very often this time of year unless something happens
Nowhere man
November 9th, 2012
7:03 pm
Constanza
Ross
Pastornicky
Diaz
Gattis
Disgusted
November 9th, 2012
7:04 pm
Ellsbury is not a fit for this team — not at all.
Too many red flags not to mention a Scott Borass client.
Span/Willy is a dream. Best affordable and sensible fit U can find. Can it be done.
Pray for FW this weekend in Church, Synagoge or your local Mosque whichever your choice of faith is.
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
7:05 pm
Nowwhere man
Why is a new blog needed? Its not like there is anything new to write about at this time. Tho it would be cool to see DOB play GM and do a blog based on the moves he’d make and so on.
Nowhere man
November 9th, 2012
7:05 pm
Would be nice to have some big news to write about.
Disgusted
November 9th, 2012
7:06 pm
Hell just go the cheap route and sign Jason Bay for LF, he can split time with Jose Constanza… Cunningham and Schafer can split time in CF…. LOL Actually signing Jason Bay would be similar to when we signed Troy Glaus.
Va Brave — Bay might not be as dumb as it seems on the surface cause if the Braves get shut out in the off season he might be a worthwhile roll of the dice assuming he is healthy again.
And is Schafer ever grows up who knows.
As Aerosmith once sang — “Dream On”.
Disgusted
November 9th, 2012
7:09 pm
I voted for Constanza on Tuesday nite. Wrote his name in.
Constanza for President of the UN.
Let him rule the One World Government. He cannot do wrong.
Please take this as afacetious joke — not meant to be political.
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
7:10 pm
I was joking about Jason Bay and so on…lol I really hope that Constanza and Schafer don’t spend a day on the 25 man roster in 2013, really think we can do better.
Nowhere man
November 9th, 2012
7:11 pm
All the time when I look in the mirror
All these lines on my face getting clearer
The past is gone.
Russell Bell
November 9th, 2012
7:12 pm
Pray for FW this weekend in Church, Synagoge or your local Mosque whichever your choice of faith is.
Good sense and a physics textbook?
nolie
November 9th, 2012
7:19 pm
Good sense and a physics textbook?
interesting approach, does that work?
nolie
November 9th, 2012
7:25 pm
those lil Smart Cars are sooo ugly that they are cute….
How cute are they nolie?
why they are so cute that every time I walk by a car lot with one sitting there, I slow down and whistle a coupla times, hoping it will follow me home….
Disgusted
November 9th, 2012
7:26 pm
I know you were joking Va Brave but Bay was a quality player as recently as 2009.
He is not ancient (34). I don’t know what he has left but who knows??????
And Schafer, Wren had to see something in him to bring him back in the org. Never know.
We should do better but we might not. LM is what it is.
McFann's date
November 9th, 2012
7:27 pm
Happy Anny Babe.
Luff ya!
Disgusted
November 9th, 2012
7:27 pm
I prefer a Smart car over a Ferrari, SUV or Mercedes.
And prefer a bag of Fritos over Filet Mignon
MD 20/20 > Dom Peringon
Russell Bell
November 9th, 2012
7:30 pm
I don’t think the baseball gods are attuned with science, or any particular deity or prophet for that matter.
They do as they please
I merely wanted to acknowledge other ways of thinking about faith, since Disgusted (and I still hate that name, btw) neglected to mention a more scientific approach to pondering infinity.
Yes, I’m aware that I sound like a pompous jerk.
Efrim
November 9th, 2012
7:30 pm
I know there is a way we can still improve the team and get damn good players without overpaying in free agency + giving up draft picks….. and without trading our top 2 prospects(Teheran and Graham)….
It’s probably me being overly optimistic, though.
old man
November 9th, 2012
7:31 pm
TOBF:
So if Francisco’s BAPIP is higher against righties, maybe it is because he smacks the crap out of the ball thrown by a right hander, so it’s more likely to be a hit. Lefties see the ball better out of a right hander’s hand, so this makes complete sense.
His sample size is large enough to rule out other possibilities. So I still don’t understand your point.
old man
November 9th, 2012
7:33 pm
old man no buy bapip. and no buy babip, either.
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
7:33 pm
Schafer is purely AAA depth in my opinion, he isn’t good enough to compete for a bench spot, I wouldn’t mind Jason Bay on a flier for spring training to see if he can be the 25th man on the roster and if not just cut em loose. I always a fan of picking up cheap vets to see if we can get some value out of them, I’m just not a fan of it when you sign em to be starters and if they flop your screwed…
nolie
November 9th, 2012
7:36 pm
he can only go to AAA if he passes thru waivers again Va, he might do so of course, but I’m not sure that is the main reason they got him.
nolie
November 9th, 2012
7:38 pm
I think his BA will go down if he plays regularly too, most marginal players do worse the more thet are exposed to the opposition, but who knows
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
7:39 pm
Efrim
Gonna be hard to be better than 2012 in my opinion, but basically alot depends on Heyward and Freeman continuing to get better and be our top hitters. Rebounds from McCann and Uggla? Our defense will likely be worse, Bourn is arguably the best in baseball so likely to be downgraded a good bit, Prado moving to 3rd to accomidate a RH banger who likely will be worse than Prado in LF defensively.
old man
November 9th, 2012
7:39 pm
Jason Bay’s fall from grace is hard to understand. Lots of injuries. NY pressure.
It would be far, far from the oddest MLB story in history for Bay to return to his 2009 form. I wonder who has the guts to have him at spring training.
Actually, I think it would be cool for him to make a comeback. His 3 years in NY must have been miserable.
keyLargo
November 9th, 2012
7:40 pm
And Schafer, Wren had to see something in him to bring him back in the org. Never know.
No one else knows where to buy those peanut butter brownies.
old man
November 9th, 2012
7:44 pm
nolie, your point is more persuasive than the babip nonsense, but the twist with Francisco is that he hits much, much better when he starts, plays the entire game, versus pinch hitting. It’s like he has a psychological edge knowing he is expected to perform, as opposed to getting a last second call to action. It’s hard to know which tendency would prevail with him. Flip a coin.
He has all sorts of maddening issues, but with Prado’s strength as an OF replacement in event of injury, or at 2B if Uggla melts down, we just aren’t going to find a 3B sub better than Francisco.
old man
November 9th, 2012
7:44 pm
nolie, your point is more persuasive than the babip nonsense, but the twist with Francisco is that he hits much, much better when he starts, plays the entire game, versus pinch hitting. It’s like he has a psychological edge knowing he is expected to perform, as opposed to getting a last second call to action. It’s hard to know which tendency would prevail with him. Flip a coin.
He has all sorts of maddening issues, but with Prado’s strength as an OF replacement in event of injury, or at 2B if Uggla melts down, we just aren’t going to find a 3B sub better than Francisco.
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
7:48 pm
Let’s be glad that Dan Uggla’s fall wasn’t as bad as Jason Bay’s lol
Bay’s last 3 seasons (He made 42 million) and still owed 16 million which will be payed over the next few years.
3 seasons for the Mets
288 Games 234/318/369/687 26 HR 124 RBIs
His last season in Boston (2009) before signing with Mets
151 Games 267/384/537/921 36 HR 119 RBI
WOW hahaha
Heath
November 9th, 2012
7:48 pm
My Cats begin their title defense tonight (maybe with a loss)… can’t wait to officially put the Braves disappointing season behind me by immersing myself in college basketball. Also, really cool the team has put together 2 successful telethons (Haiti and Sandy) to provide around $1M each time to the victims… Go Big Blue!
nolie
November 9th, 2012
7:49 pm
we’ll see. If he starts I certainly hope you are right.
Nowhere man
November 9th, 2012
7:53 pm
Bowman says that Swisher and Hunter would be the best fits for the Braves.
nolie
November 9th, 2012
7:54 pm
Damn FSU played like CRAP last night
nolie
November 9th, 2012
7:57 pm
That would put Hunter in CF at his age, but then IMHO Bowman is and idiot so I’m not surprised
George_George
November 9th, 2012
7:59 pm
Basketball outdoors on aircraft carriers does not work well, they got a wet court even thou it is not raining. Opps they just called it off. Nice idea for the troops, but it did not work out. PLAY INDOORS.
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
8:00 pm
I’d be that Torri Hunter would basically produce around what Garrett “Loaf” Anderson did for us. Maybe a little better. But remember we only paid him 2 million, Hunter is likely to get atleast 4 times that much.
TennesseePaul
November 9th, 2012
8:02 pm
Ef, I’d only speculate that Signable would be too much for Wren because a) he really, really likes college soft tossing lefties. And b) because no matter the ceiling for Signable, there is a full six years of control, perhaps that amount of control is too much in Wren’s view for a two years of a poor defensive outfielder with a history of injuries in the back half of his career. Granted, he doesn’t cost much on the contract side, his biggest asset…
Not to mention the Twins might be more interested in guys closer to, or already in, the majors.
Whatever the case, I don’t think Gilmartin is the answer on either side.
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
8:03 pm
Hunter was really lucky with Balls in play last season, I think he produces something much closer to his 2011 season and I’d bet the under on that still.
nolie
November 9th, 2012
8:05 pm
too bad, they could sure have Gilmartin as far as I am concerned, and he should appeal to Minn with that Scott Diamond comparison
nolie
November 9th, 2012
8:07 pm
Hunter has put up a long score of good OPS+s, I think he would do OK, but one and one is all I would go
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
8:08 pm
So if Francisco’s BAPIP is higher against righties, maybe it is because he smacks the crap out of the ball thrown by a right hander, so it’s more likely to be a hit. Lefties see the ball better out of a right hander’s hand, so this makes complete sense.
His sample size is large enough to rule out other possibilities. So I still don’t understand your point.
Seth Smith and Cody Ross both slap the mess out of opposite handed pitchers…. their BABIP is lower (Ross is at .289) Juan is nearly .350. He’s due to regress.
nolie’s explanation works too. He’s smarter than me!
Jeff R
November 9th, 2012
8:10 pm
Fowler or Span? I think I’d prefer Span, though he’s a couple years older and a bit more expensive (salary-wise).
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
8:10 pm
But yes, Juan could possibly be a nice cheap sub who has some power. He needs better plate awareness though. I’m not letting him start, esp. not at 3rd over Prado, and putting him back in LF. I’d rather get a proven power bat, like Pence/Upton/Willingham.
His pinch-hitting needs work too….
jeffrey d
November 9th, 2012
8:11 pm
5 years ago to the minute, I posted on the Blog for the first time McFann
Happy blogday!
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
8:11 pm
and I love my BABIP
Efrim
November 9th, 2012
8:15 pm
Jon Heyman@JonHeymanCBS
#SFGiants are in talks with jeremy affeldt. Talking about 3 year deal for $15-20M. bob nightengale reported 1st.
I guess this is part of why I dislike Sabean. This is just nonsense if it happens. Three years, $15-20 million for Jeremy Affeldt?
Sigh….
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
8:15 pm
I wouldn’t mind Torri Hunter in LF for 1 year, but depends on the money. I really can’t see how anyone views him as a 10+ million guy anymore. He’s 37 years old also. He’s not that Gold Glove defender with 20+ HR power anymore. Also to note he had a career high in strikeouts last season and that’s only in 140 games.
nolie
November 9th, 2012
8:16 pm
310/326 in winter ball shows he still can’t take a walk. his BA goes down and his OBP will stink. I HATE players who makes outs all the time
nolie
November 9th, 2012
8:17 pm
no he is not worth 10 mil to me either
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
8:18 pm
Efrim
The contract that the Dodgers gave Brandon League is gonna set the bar high for good setup men.. I think we can forget about giving EOF a multiyear deal instead of ARB..
VaBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
8:21 pm
EOF would likely get a very nice pay day if he was a free agent.
Efrim
November 9th, 2012
8:25 pm
Whatever the case, I don’t think Gilmartin is the answer on either side.
Yeah, I guess I just don’t consider him more than a 4/5 starter, and present value is what we’re looking for. Defensive issues aside, Willingham is the best option when considering all factors.
Sure, he absolutely isn’t what the Twins would want. I certainly don’t disagree with that. They’ve gone through years of having command/control soft tossers in their system that amount to nothing. I can’t imagine the fan base would be on board with trading their best asset for another one of them.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 9th, 2012
8:26 pm
dang that’s alot for a reliever….pony up and spend for Hamilton too! I want Pence….
I hate players who make a ton of outs as well….unless they are a certain CF who will provide near bourn’s level of defense. plus, with an avg babip, he’d hit about .255. I’d take that. RH bat and good speed.