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Murph
November 7th, 2012
11:38 am
I don’t think there’s a team out there who would ask for Tyler “I got waived by a Venezuelan team” Pastornicky in any deal.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
11:39 am
playing interleague games this season, there will be opportunities for DL appearances (for Willingham)
And I’m sure he’ll use it a couple times. We’ll get to see Gattis in LF
How many inter-league games are we gaining, 2? And I’m sure Mac and others may get a few of those… even if Willy got them all, based on averages, he’d play about 125 games.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
November 7th, 2012
11:39 am
It would be a gamble, and very bad for our hot stove speculations, but Wren could take a “keep your powder dry” approach to trading this winter. Sign Pagan, then go with this lineup:
1. Pagan CF
2. Prado 3B
3. Heyward RF
4. Freeman 1B
5. Uggla 2B
6. Ross/McCann C
7. Gattis LF
8. Simmons SS
Not ideal in L/R balance, but not ridiculous. It gives half a season to see how Gattis hits ML pitching. If he’s in over his head, you still have your pitching chips to make a trade at the break. If he does well, maybe you move him up between Heyward and Freeman, and then make a trade to upgrade whatever is broken at the time.
I guess the downside is, what do you do if Gattis flames out immediately or is injured. Trades probably won’t be available until some teams are buried. Limp through by moving Pagan to LF and playing Schafer in CF? Not sure Wren could take that heat.
nolie
November 7th, 2012
11:39 am
oh they might put some into payroll, we’ll just have to wait and see
I would not give up what it will take to get Justin and I’m betting that Wren will not either
DS1
November 7th, 2012
11:40 am
I wonder why the stock market is down so low today? Hmmm
nolie
November 7th, 2012
11:41 am
not going to see Gattis if they sign a LFer
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
11:41 am
Replace Delgado w/ Teheran and replace EOF w/ Venters
I can agree with the first part… iffy on the 2nd. I love both guys, but if we had to trade one, it’d probably be EOF that goes. Costs a bit more. And for what little value relievers have, I’m sure he’s currently more valuable than JV.
You think they would atleast put some of that 25 million into the team. Atleast 20% damn…
I hope a good bit goes into scouting…. if only there weren’t limits on international spending
nolie
November 7th, 2012
11:42 am
Romney’s billionaire buddies mourning his demise ?
DS1
November 7th, 2012
11:42 am
Enquiring Minds
Or how about just getting Cody Ross for LF, and bring up Gattis when he is good and ready. You could always deal Ross later on if Gattis proves to be the real deal.
DS1
November 7th, 2012
11:43 am
nolie
Maybe, except that when I look at my “thousandaire” portfolio, my stuff is down too!!
P-Town Brave ©
November 7th, 2012
11:45 am
Ok…let me see if I can put this one together w/ Cleveland involved
Indians Get:
Julio Teheran – RHP
Tommy Hanson – RHP
Joe Terdoslavich – 1b
DBacks Get:
Asdrubal Cabrera – SS
Todd Cunningham – OF
Jonny Venters – LHP
Braves Get:
Justin Upton – OF
Jared Goedert – 3B
VaBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
11:46 am
Theo is working to build the Cubs back up. Looking to rebound candidates on 1 year deal to flip at the deadline for prospects, could also deal David DeJesus and Garza for youngins. Might as well do it, they should just eat most of Soriano’s money and try and get a decent prospect or 2 while there at it. Gut the whole team with Starlin Castro being the only good player for a handful of seasons just like Ryan Zimmerman was for the Nats. lol
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
November 7th, 2012
11:48 am
DS1, that would be fine with me. Torii Hunter works too. It’s a matter of if they can get a player like that for a price they’re comfortable with.
Efrim
November 7th, 2012
11:50 am
I’d do the same thing if I were Theo. Short term deals and then look to flip players for prospects.
They are far away, indeed. But at some point, Theo/Hoyer will pounce on fre agents when they feel the prospects are close enough.
DS1
November 7th, 2012
11:53 am
Enquiring Minds
It makes too much sense. Nah, it’ll never happen.
The Angel Pagan and either Cody Ross or Torii Hunter. Only problem with that scenario is we have to keep all our pitching, and you KNOW how badly folks on here want to deal off our pitching.
P-Town Brave ©
November 7th, 2012
11:53 am
Nolie-
I don’t know, I think that he’d be a great piece to have not only for the bench but for a couple starts a week or so….he can catch, he can play LF, and frankly, I’d consider if I were them having him work out at 1b as he’d be a good complimentary to Freddie as well when he needs days off.
I think his bat could certainly help him work his way into the lineup many times and if nothing else, he certainly would make our bench much better from the right side….
A lot will be predicated on how he goes about ST and how he does there, so I wouldn’t put all my eggs into that basket and end up handcuffed like we did w/ Pastor though….make sure there is an Option A before taking a look at Option B
Shaun
November 7th, 2012
11:54 am
Efrim, yep. I think that’s what the Cubs tried to do by signing guys like Ian Stewart. They are trying to get value guys that they can flip to contenders for prospects.
They load up on rather cheap guys that have displayed skills but, for whatever reason, haven’t gotten the results to match those skills in hopes that some of them do play well enough to trade to a team willing to give up prospects.
Lew
November 7th, 2012
11:54 am
Yeah – Let’s get rid of Delgado, Hanson, Maholm and O’Flaherty but let’s keep Terdoslavich. Makes perfect sense. Arghhhhh.
Trader Jack
November 7th, 2012
11:54 am
TOBF
Where do you see the Braves payroll for 2013?
DS1
November 7th, 2012
11:54 am
Efrim
That sign and flip strategy has worked pretty good for Oakland over the years. Started in earnest with the Holliday signing a few years back.
VaBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
11:54 am
I think any 3 team trade like that the Braves would only be getting Justin Upton.
Indians Get
Julio Teheran, Zeke, Wood, and Ahmed
DBacks get
Asdrubal Cabrera, EOF or Venters, Matt Lipka, and Luigi Rodriguez
Braves get
Justin Upton
I don’t maybe something like that. It’s gonna take alot to pry away Upton and the Indians have to be satisfied with what they get for Cabrera as well.
Murph
November 7th, 2012
11:55 am
Freeman, Teheran, Spruill, Salcedo, and Ahmed to San Diego for Headley, Alonso, and Gregerson
Murph
November 7th, 2012
11:57 am
yes, I’m bored
Lew
November 7th, 2012
11:57 am
The stock market is doen today becauase Germany has expressed concerns over their economy.
Efrim
November 7th, 2012
11:57 am
Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com writes that Ike Davis may be pulled off the trade market following Lucas Duda’s wrist surgery.
The Mets couldn’t really be serious about trading Ike….
And the longer we get into the offseason without David Wright agreeing to a long term deal, the worse it is for Mets fans health. Although, I do believe they will come to an agreement. Seven years, $140 million is apparently what he is asking for on top of the one year, $16 million he is making for 2013. Eight years, $156 million – $19.5 AAV. .
Shaun
November 7th, 2012
12:01 pm
Good day for Nate Silver. His model was right on. Data and information over gut and our assumptions/biases.
Trader Jack
November 7th, 2012
12:02 pm
This is crazy
Last week we had Hurricane Sandy, today we have a Nor’easter churning up the coast, 50 mph winds, additional flooding along the coast, AND it;s snowing, with 3-5 inches expected, with the leaves still on the trees
P-Town Brave ©
November 7th, 2012
12:02 pm
VA-
I can’t see giving up that many top guys all in 1 deal….
I just can’t see Teheran, Lipka, and Ahmed all going in one deal
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
12:04 pm
Where do you see the Braves payroll for 2013?
Not sure what you mean…. it’s generally assumed that payroll will be around 95mil next season, so I use that figure for calculations.
Shaun
November 7th, 2012
12:06 pm
Also, what last night taught us: It’s okay to rely on folks smarter than us, that know how to interpret the data rather than relying on blowhards who are speculating about what is going to happen.
Murph
November 7th, 2012
12:06 pm
Not sure what you mean…. it’s generally assumed that payroll will be around 95mil next season, so I use that figure for calculations.
If that national TV money is for real I’d assume some of it will make its way into the payroll. Probably not all, or even most, but some of it will.
Trader Jack
November 7th, 2012
12:08 pm
TOBF
I would downgrade that figure to about $88 mil
DS1
November 7th, 2012
12:08 pm
Did you guys hear where last night Chris Matthews was caught saying he was “glad we had the storm” last week (to help with the election).
What a frickin idiot.
Murph
November 7th, 2012
12:09 pm
It’s okay to rely on folks smarter than us, that know how to interpret the data rather than relying on blowhards who are speculating about what is going to happen.
Don’t confuse the ability to interpret data with overall intelligence, though. I’m sure a monkey could be trained to interpret a specific data set and come up with the right answer more often than not.
VaBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
12:11 pm
If the Braves are getting an extra 25 million in TV revenue, they should have no problem increasing the payroll to 100 million.
DS1
November 7th, 2012
12:11 pm
Shaun
Actually, last night taught us an incredible amount of info about our nation, having nothing to do with your beloved stats.
And if I continue, then a lot of folks are going to get upset.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
12:11 pm
Let’s get rid of Delgado, Hanson, Maholm and O’Flaherty but let’s keep Terdoslavich.
Keep Terdoslavich instead of getting the D’Backs 3B prospect. I’d probably trade Teheran over Delgado, and I’d try to get a RP back in the deal. I’d then have the money and rotation spot to be able to sign a FA pitcher.
As for the 7-8 pitchers that’d be used during the season: The Frontline SP, Medlen, Hudson, Minor, Delgado, Gilmartin, Graham, Flande or other ST standout.
Efrim
November 7th, 2012
12:12 pm
Silver’s model was accurate.
Couldn’t believe what I was seeing when Karl Rove was trying to deny Fox News own report on Obama clinching the Electoral College. Partially denial, I’m sure.
Lew
November 7th, 2012
12:15 pm
You’ve been so concerned with thelack of Bravers’ pitching experiene, continually dismiss the numbers Medlen and Minor put up the second half of the season, yet would be comfortable with Gilmartin, Graham, and Flande who have zero experience in the major leagues and Delgado who has minimimasl experience?
Do you ever really listen to yourself? If you do, do you actually pay attention?
Efrim
November 7th, 2012
12:15 pm
Actually, last night taught us an incredible amount of info about our nation, having nothing to do with your beloved stats.
That’s about enough of that. I certainly wouldn’t go ANY further. At least not here, Wayne.
And if I continue, then a lot of folks are going to get upset.
Yes and you will most likely not be back. And I enjoy your blogging here, so please – keep it to yourself.
VaBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
12:15 pm
It’s been fun, gotta run. Have a good day yall.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
12:15 pm
If the Braves are getting an extra 25 million in TV revenue, they should have no problem increasing the payroll to 100 million.
Should get it to 110 hopefully.
Lew
November 7th, 2012
12:17 pm
Efrim – Anything interesting in that article I forwarded to you?
Shaun
November 7th, 2012
12:17 pm
Murph, well there were plenty of folks who apparently weren’t as smart as those trained monkeys of which you speak, who refused to accept what the data suggested.
DS1, I’m just referring to the Nate Silver fiasco of the last week or so and how to interpret data and information rather than relying on our own assumptions and guesses.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
12:18 pm
Those guys are the AAA pitchers who’d make spot starts, Lew. As it stands now, Delgado, Teheran, and Gilmartin are those pitchers who’d make spot starts. Very little MLB experience there either.
+ add in Beachy to that list by August hopefully. Of course, getting him back will be like trading for an ace
DS1
November 7th, 2012
12:18 pm
Interesting Paradox in days to come:
A couple of states legalize the recreational use of marijuana. Federal law prohibits this. How hard will the President push the Justice Department to fight these new laws, when he was an admitted user in his youth?
Kinda like how it’s not OK to torture (waterboarding) prisoners of war; but it’s perfectly OK to administer the double tap to the forehead of terrorists.
Just a couple of things I thought were interesting.
Lew
November 7th, 2012
12:21 pm
Wayne – Please just give it a freaking rest.
Shaun
November 7th, 2012
12:21 pm
DS1, we should probably steer the conversation back to baseball or data-interpretation and speculation from blowhards. I certainly didn’t intend for my comments to open the door to partisan comments.
Sorry.
DS1
November 7th, 2012
12:22 pm
Lew
Inquiring minds want to know…………..
Efrim
November 7th, 2012
12:22 pm
Lew, tons of interesting stuff and I appreciate the article. I’ll write you back via my personal email.
DS1
November 7th, 2012
12:24 pm
Shaun
I have been very careful not to say anything partisan. I’d dare anybody to categorize my statements as partisan.
Murph
November 7th, 2012
12:24 pm
Murph, well there were plenty of folks who apparently weren’t as smart as those trained monkeys of which you speak, who refused to accept what the data suggested.
It’s amazing to see, isn’t it?
Efrim
November 7th, 2012
12:25 pm
Wayne, just keep it going man and you’ll find yourself the same place Dentz is at. Having to switch IP addresses and scramble stuff to comment here. I’m sure you don’t want to risk that by making comments that are best made in other places with people who actually give a crap, no?
Lew
November 7th, 2012
12:25 pm
Wayne – Maybe they do, but not here.
DS1
November 7th, 2012
12:34 pm
I love baseball. The blog has been fun over the past 7 years. You guys are a trip.
Patrick
November 7th, 2012
12:34 pm
I cannot see how anyone would be excited at all about signing Pagan.
He is not a difference maker, he’s cheap. What he is someone that’s been passed around from team-to-team and happened to have a “good” season..that’s all it was, good.
You know who he is?!?!?! He is Gary Matthews Jr!!! And whoever signs Pagan is going to be just as sorry in giving him whatever contract he ends up getting, just like the Angels did. The only thing is, if the Braves are the ones to give him the contract, they won’t do anything to counter the mistake-because they refuse to spend money on top tier players-once Pagan reverts back to what he is, an average to below average hitter.
I’m sorry I’m not sorry to “negative” but this post is what it is. The truth. If he were a difference maker, he wouldn’t have gone from the Mets to the Cubs back to the Mets then to the Giants.
Murph
November 7th, 2012
12:39 pm
I cannot see how anyone would be excited at all about signing Pagan.
He is not a difference maker, he’s cheap.
He’s not even going to be cheap this offseason.
Trader Jack
November 7th, 2012
12:43 pm
My one and only comment regarding all politics
Somewhere Joseph Goebbels is having a really good laugh
Lew
November 7th, 2012
12:44 pm
He didn’t go from the Mets to the Cubs to the Mets to the Giants – at least not if Baseballreference is to be believed.
He played p[art time for the Cubs when he came up, traded to the Mets where he played part time for part of his tenure, put up a good year, a fair year and then with the Giants put up a quite solid year. Anyone who hits more than 55 EXH in that pitchers park actually had a pretty damned good year.
Will he be worth the money he’ll get? Probably not, but who wiil be?
P-Town Brave ©
November 7th, 2012
12:47 pm
Wayne -
Just because one uses in their youth doesn’t make them a full blown pothead or ok w/ it….
I did it once upon a time too….
But really, I thought we were done w/ all of that…..today is a new day and this isn’t AJC Political Blog Talk….
And Patrick…the idea is not that Pagan will be a difference maker, but coupled w/ a LF that both will make a difference in getting to where we need to be as a team…..in fact, I wouldn’t consider him the difference maker on the Giants team, but guess what, with him playing well in the playoffs and helping the team, they won the World Series…
Besides, the game is BASEBALL and its a TEAM game….there is no such thing as having 1 difference maker….just ask about any MVP over the last 20 years
DS1
November 7th, 2012
12:47 pm
Patrick
You last post made me think of this discourse: THE TRUTH?
You can’t handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago’s death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
bravesfaninnc
November 7th, 2012
12:47 pm
Patrick – Pagan may be an “average” hitter, but keep this in mind. In 7 yrs he has a .281/.333/.757 line. Bourn, in 7 yrs, has a .272/.339/.704 line. He’s not as fast, but I’d venture to say that he’d put the ball in play more often than Bourn and probably be a little better at situational hitting (a desperate need on this team). And he would be a whole heck of a lot cheaper.
richbrave
November 7th, 2012
12:51 pm
SOUTH OF THE BORDER
DOMINICA
EASTERN BULLS
Lead-off CF JOSE CONSTANZA [.395 BA] 2-4, 1 SO, 2 SB [4].
LHRP YOHAN FLANDE [8.10 ERA] 0.1 IP, 1 H, zeros, 1 BB, 1 SO.
LICEY TIGERS
3B JUAN FRANCISCO [.3-6 BA] 2-5, 1 R, 1 2B [2], 2 RBI [8].
C CHRISTIAN BETHANCOURT [.214 BA] 2-4, 2 R, 1 2B [2], 1 PB [3].
ORIENTE STARS
CF FELIX PIE [.263 BA] 1-3, 2 BB.
MEXICO
HERMOSILLO ORANGES
Lead-off CF TODD CUNNINGHAM [.250 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 HR [2], 3 RBI [4], 1 BB, 1 SB [2].
VENEZUELA
CARACAS LIONS
C J.C. BOSCAN [.368 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 E [3, field].
LARA CARDINALS
CF JORDAN PARRAZ [.429 BA] 0-0, 1 BB
Game suspended
DAP
November 7th, 2012
12:59 pm
DS1, im with you man…but im actually on this blog because i DONT want to think about that other stuff. so, if you dont mind…
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
1:03 pm
Nice to see Juan and CBet doing well
DAP
November 7th, 2012
1:04 pm
this is slightly political but not really…do teams have honor codes about using pot? are players going to be able to use when they are in Denver on road trips? how will teams handle this?
ncscoots
November 7th, 2012
1:07 pm
when he was an admitted user in his youth?
Gosh, if that’s the bar, I think I’m screwed.
P-Town Brave ©
November 7th, 2012
1:11 pm
Scoots-
You being who you are I’m certain you haven’t seen this years South Park…
Well, there was an episode where they featured Honey Boo Boo and James Cameron and talked about how low the bar has been set for humanity and that we need to raise the bar as a civilization…
And yeah, I tend to agree….the bar has been lowered greatly by the stupidity of our people….
And that is about as far as I’ll go into politics here
ncscoots
November 7th, 2012
1:12 pm
trying to deny Fox News own report
I shamefacedly admit to punching over to FOX News a couple of times this morning, just to chuckle at the spin. I know that was probably my bad angel taking over, but there ya go.
ncscoots
November 7th, 2012
1:14 pm
And yeah, I tend to agree….the bar has been lowered greatly by the stupidity of our people….
That was hardly what I said, so it’s kinda hard to “agree”.
CB
November 7th, 2012
1:15 pm
scoots,while you were at it I hoped you swung by MSNBS?
DS1
November 7th, 2012
1:16 pm
scoots
Funny, but I do the same when I switch over to MSNBC! Belly laugh!
DS1
November 7th, 2012
1:19 pm
and I was not being judgmental of anyone who smoked pot in their youth.
ncscoots
November 7th, 2012
1:21 pm
while you were at it I hoped you swung by MSNBS?
I figured that would be all glad-handing and back-slapping, so I chose to dispense with it.
I spent most of my night with CNN, and Soledad O’Brien always gets my attention in the morning, anyway. There’s something about watching a smart lady talk about the fiscal cliff, while wearing six-inch heels, that captivates me, LOL.
Patrick
November 7th, 2012
1:22 pm
Patrick – Pagan may be an “average” hitter, but keep this in mind. In 7 yrs he has a .281/.333/.757 line. Bourn, in 7 yrs, has a .272/.339/.704 line. He’s not as fast, but I’d venture to say that he’d put the ball in play more often than Bourn and probably be a little better at situational hitting (a desperate need on this team). And he would be a whole heck of a lot cheaper
True. and number’s dont’ lie
Plus, I’d rather have Josh Hamilton patrolling Centerfield. But I think a time machine would be invented before the Braves would spend the money on a top free agent
ncscoots
November 7th, 2012
1:23 pm
and I was not being judgmental of anyone
I know you weren’t, man, I’m just messin’ with ya.
Bat Masterson
November 7th, 2012
1:26 pm
and I was not being judgmental of anyone who smoked pot in their youth.
Whew ………..That’s a load off my mind.
I think people might be getting a little ahead of things with Colorado. It’s still against Federal law. Just a matter of time though, if you ask me.
ncscoots
November 7th, 2012
1:28 pm
Just a matter of time though, if you ask me.
“Don’t…bogart…that law…my friend…pass it over to D.C.”
JoeFan
November 7th, 2012
1:29 pm
The wildcard here is Liberty Media. If corporate management tells Wren to send the excess cash up the pipeline to the home office, then you could see schafer / cunningham in cf and gattis in lf Don’t think that this will happen but would not be surprised to see gattis in lf and only a portion of the extra funds spent to acquire a centerfielder.Maybe Wren spends a litle extra on the bench or he gets caught up in acquiring an Ace but baseball is a business and Liberty is interested first in the bottomline.
Bat Masterson
November 7th, 2012
1:31 pm
Lotta, lotta money and jobs at stake in the war in drugs.
ncscoots
November 7th, 2012
1:32 pm
Lotta, lotta money and jobs at stake in the war in drugs.
Make peace, not war. And then tax the ever-lovin’ heck out of that bleep.
DS1
November 7th, 2012
1:36 pm
Bat
Never used. Never had a desire to. Have good friends (and children) who have. Not sure how I feel about the legalization of pot.
When one of my kids was put in a Drug Intervention program years ago after getting busted, we were taught that pot was actually quite bad for you, especially for younger people. So while I understand the argument about why it should be legalized, how does that compute with what we were taught in the DI program? Were we being lied to? If not then I can’t see the good in legalization.
Bat Masterson
November 7th, 2012
1:36 pm
Makes sense to. At least for the herb. We’ll see, I guess
Threadkiller
November 7th, 2012
1:37 pm
Schafer better be left behind for our first road trip to Colorado!!
phil
November 7th, 2012
1:37 pm
DS1
November 7th, 2012
11:40 am
I wonder why the stock market is down so low today? Hmmm
***************
it’s called the crooks shorting everything they can…..it’s a scam essentially.
The rich….they make the rules. But as last night again showed, doesn’t mean they always get their way.
Bat Masterson
November 7th, 2012
1:39 pm
Wayne_
I don’t claim to be an expert, or anything, so I don’t know for sure. I just don’t see how it can really be a bigger deal than drinking. :shrug:
Shaun
November 7th, 2012
1:39 pm
Shaun
I have been very careful not to say anything partisan. I’d dare anybody to categorize my statements as partisan.
DS1, didn’t mean to necessarily suggest that your statements were. I just didn’t want my comments to lead us down a discussion of specific policies, etc., at least not the hot button ones.
Back to the Braves…
I’m thinking they might go with the best centerfielder they can possibly get and get more of a solid, cheap, short-term solution in leftfield so that if Gattis is ready he’s not blocked and if Gattis proves he’s not a full-time type player and the other leftfielder is a bust, leftfielders are somewhat easy to find.
Bat Masterson
November 7th, 2012
1:40 pm
Y’all have fun, I’ve got to hit the road.
DS1
November 7th, 2012
1:41 pm
phil
Is Obama rich?
Do you really know who the enemy is?
rammerjammer
November 7th, 2012
1:56 pm
Ah well…voting is always a popularity contest. It’s not what you know and see with your own two eyes, it’s what others say you should know but didn’t see, and then the vote is cast.
But I guess that’s enough about the Gold Glove awards.
ccrider
November 7th, 2012
1:56 pm
Another Day, Another DS1 running his mouth and drinking the kool-aid!
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
November 7th, 2012
1:56 pm
People, if we’re going to p–s each other off here, it has to be over things like the relative significance of advanced statistics, or maybe the amount of vinegar in a bbq sauce. This is escapism. Matters of real consequence need to be discussed elsewhere.
phil
November 7th, 2012
1:59 pm
The enemy is whatever team we face in the playoffs, clearly!
DS1
November 7th, 2012
2:03 pm
phil
Correct!
Bay Area Steve
November 7th, 2012
2:03 pm
Braves sign Jason Bay, early line set at 6-1
Major League contract 20-1
DS1
November 7th, 2012
2:04 pm
ccrider
I love you too man!
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
2:09 pm
I still feel I have plenty to give to this game and that I can play baseball at a high level.- Bay
Yeah, sure. Maybe he’s a premium LF for us?
Orioles looking at both Hamilton and Ross… hope they take Ross. Hamilton goes to SF, Pence comes here.
Cubs Interested In McCarthy & Marcum
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
2:12 pm
People, if we’re going to p–s each other off here, it has to be over things like the relative significance
Like 2 of my 3 favorite targets for the Braves?
phil
November 7th, 2012
2:12 pm
We keep overlooking Garrett Anderson….
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 7th, 2012
2:14 pm
MLB @MLB
OFFICIAL: @Dodgers hire Mark McGwire as hitting coach.
Talking Chop @gondeee
Adding Bay to the Braves would be like adding another Dan Uggla, only w/ the defensive skills of an outfielder … oh, wait
That’s just cruel!