5:38 pm November 2, 2012, by David O'Brien
November 2nd, 20129:06 pm
Good stuff, David. thanks
Shame about Pasqual. Appreciate the reminisces.
I like the Gattis nickname. Some here will dissapointed to hear him called a “very good prospect,” I’m sure.
November 2nd, 20129:07 pm
Gattis in left, Schafer in center, and Prado at third. Winter over.
Jeff R — I would put that past them — I don’t expect any more than some cheaper signs late late in the FA period.
This off season will be slightly more exciting than last yrs — which is not a heck of alot.
LM is not going to spend the money.
@8:47 nice….I’d take that line -up..but with Wren I don’t think so.
November 2nd, 20129:10 pm
Calling Gattis a “very good” prospect is BS that the public is not buying at this point.
Its PR posturing to get us to accept that we are not going out and getting MLB talent that will cost a little $$$$$$$$$$$.
Gattis might work out if we are lucky. Than all will be happy — we have our LF, and LM gets away without spending.
IF they win fine, if they lose then its all BS.
November 2nd, 20129:11 pm
I am Third @ 7:12 pm: Good stuff re: Knucksie and the evil Torre.
November 2nd, 20129:16 pm
DOB—I understand the Twins are in need of starting pitching. In your opinion, if we were to trade for Willingham, would it take more than Hanson? And, if so, how much more? Am I crazy for even thinking about this?
November 2nd, 20129:17 pm
Hi everybody. I see that they made the offer to Bourn, at least Wren didn’t allow him to walk free like Drew and Sheffield were allowed to do.
I have to agree with those who say that it is extremely unlikely that the Braves will have real interest in Hamilton.so it will be interesting to see what Wren does. It seems like prices on the better players might really soar this season, so the one season it seems like we have plenty, it might not stretch as far as we thought.
November 2nd, 20129:19 pm
I DVR’d the Hawks and just started watching their home season opener. The pre game introductions were without doubt the lamest ;poorly produced affair I think I have ever seen…they had some high school band fill up the court, did not darken the court so you could see the laser “show”, the players were just standing around on the side and did not ever acknowledge their names except the starters, and the crowd of empty seats was not into it at all. Oh yeah, the announcer was a joke, this looked and sounded like some 4th rate basketball movie. What an embarrassment for a professional team, but that’s about par with this bunch. It’s going to be another long season and I don’t think I will even care.
November 2nd, 20129:20 pm
Calling Gattis a “very good” prospect is BS that the public is not buying at this
Says who? You
I have it on good authority that he is gonna be star.
November 2nd, 20129:21 pm
I’m certain it would take a lot more than Hanson, Willingham at $7 million is a great trade piece, and Hanson has a ton of questions about his future
November 2nd, 20129:23 pm
As for the Hawks it all starts at the top & this ownership has done nothing to deserve the trust of the Atl sports fan.
I will NEVER attend another event at the arena as long as that clustermuck of jerks are around.
I won;t forgive them for what they did with the Thrashers and how we as a fan base were treated and lied to.
Danny Ferry has good intentions but no big time players are comming here. I don’t see Josh staying here long term.
Hard to judge how they will do this yr, can still win in the low 40’s maybe.
I sort of like the idea of Hunter in left field, would leave us a good bit for a centerfielder and the bench.
November 2nd, 20129:29 pm
I saw that ‘intro.” You’re right, the lamest thing ever. I thought it was some kind of joke and the “real” show was going to start any second. Right! :facepalm:
Sounds like Gattis is a realistic prospect for LF and that Wren is planting the seeds for that to happen allowing the Braves to focus their assets on acquiring a top shelf CF. Who knows, maybe Hamilton isn’t that far fetched.
I also like Pagan for center if he is not too expensive.
Wren will find a way to keep us competitive I believe
Yea Bat — Right.
We have zero idea what Gattis can do in MLB.
if he is a late bloomer and stars than so be it.
November 2nd, 20129:31 pm
Thanks for the bday wishes Hon! <3
Hamilton is not a Braves type player, no matter the cost I do not believe they will sign him.
Too much risk for a mid-level team. If he went South the team would be in dire straits
Hawks are a complete joke….
Hanson for Willingham? I don’t even know if we could get a cheap car in return for him
November 2nd, 20129:33 pm
The twins would be crazy to trade their MVP of 2012 Willingham and his cheap contract…you could get D Span who should have won a gold glove in CF as he had one of the best defensive record in AL. But sometimes people do crazy things for 4 or 5 players.
why not use Alt3 and make a real heart, Mixxo?
November 2nd, 20129:34 pm
Hamilton is an untouchable: former crack addict, alcoholic for life.
November 2nd, 20129:35 pm
Feels more like a Klesko type who will move to 1B or DH role sooner than later. Lots of raw power to be sure but he seems too bulky to be in the OF for more than a spot start. He flat out looks like a catcher IMHO.
He will make a very good AL player (where he can DH) at some point but on the Braves I am not sure where you put him. If you care about the kid you don’t plop him in LF and wait until he gets hurt, which he will.
Even money says Wren puts him in a trade package if he gets uber hot in ST or in AAA.
1B/DH/C are best for his bulk. Tearing around the OF will mean lots of injuries for him.
November 2nd, 20129:36 pm
Believe me, I’m no huge fan of Hanson, but I think we tend to underestimate his worth in today’s marketplace. Don’t you think it’s worth investigating?
Bay Area Steve
November 2nd, 20129:37 pm
“I don’t even know if we could get a cheap car in return for him”
Challenge! No way that’s winkable. The wink is frickin’ weak to start with. Forgivable, I suppose, but at least be funny. Or marginally humorous. Or vaguely interesting.
As an aside, I’d no idea how you felt about Hanson. ‘Preciate you keeping us in the loop.
Murph: I didn’t realize you were in the insurance business.(I thought you ran a strip club ). Are you up on Medicare Part B? I have questions. Thanks.
Such a shame that pizza? guy couldnt get the ownership rights. I was so excited when I heard that he wanted to buy the team…..then to hear he had money isues or whatever. Big letdown.
November 2nd, 20129:38 pm
Is it Mixxo’s birthday?
Well hell, Happy Birthday, Mixxo.
Hanson says Happy Birthday, too.
November 2nd, 20129:39 pm
they claim he is athletic, and I don’t think we can be sure of what he looks like from that relatively poor video. Plenty of real big players have patrolled left field over the decades. That was once the place to dump the big clumsy ones who could hit
November 2nd, 20129:44 pm
“once the place”
Still is, I hope. I think it’s only us low-budget squads who even mention LF glove. And, I’m guessing from the smile HE was a no-hit LFer?
Not all that much tearing around to do in LF. I bet he’d be a better fielder than Willingham. If he can produce near those numbers offensively, great!
If you pulled Justin Upton from the story you just guaranteed they will get him and try him in CF.
That is how life works.
Thanks for that since I would like to see Justin and BJ on the Braves. Won’t happen but it would be quite the story if it did.
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November 2nd, 20129:45 pm
November 2nd, 20129:47 pm
I’m a DA per some on blog….But I’d go after 1. Shane Victorino 2. Ben Revere 3.Denard Span 4. Pagan…give Shane a two year deal…Ben Revere I would trade for and you would have him 4 years cheap. D Span best in Al in CF…Pagan we all know him from WS but I believe Giants will resign and he’ll be high. This are just for CF.
3b I would try to trade for Chase Handley..he will be high with players not money but worth it.
Put Pradeo back in LF.
I would try to sign free agent Jeff Keppinger because he can play all positions except catch and pitch..also played alot of 3b last year. would be great of bench.
You wouldn’t spend alot of money and have a damn good team.
November 2nd, 20129:48 pm
Loves Greinke, hates Willingham and Hanson
November 2nd, 20129:49 pm
“Loves Greinke, hates Willingham and Hanson”
Good summary. I’d missed his last 4000 posts, so I was unclear.
November 2nd, 20129:50 pm
DELBERT is that Schafer you talking about? sound like it.
I don’t want any part of Greinke. Doesn’t matter anyway, as we are flush in pitching. Expect subtraction there, not addition…
I’m a DA, too, jj, but for real, not ’cause some anonymous cats told me so. You gotta own it, man.
November 2nd, 20129:53 pm
BAS – Wow. That was some real-life advice. Maybe the best I’ve heard in a while. Thanks for making me smile, which ain’t easy to do lately. Think I’ll run with that…
November 2nd, 20129:55 pm
Bay area Steve..I agree but u know the pros on here that know everything and the ones that always go alone with Braves no matter what they do like Stupidball..Maybe you and me are the only smart ones.
I’ll now forever picture HE as that Kyle Blanks dude San Diego had for a while. No basis in reality, but there it is. Anybody know why he missed ‘12?
November 2nd, 20129:56 pm
I’m no huge fan of Hanson, but I think we tend to underestimate his worth in today’s marketplace Powderfinger
maybe so, but I’m pretty darned sure he is not worth the 30th best hitter in baseball who is getting paid like a peon
November 2nd, 20129:58 pm
That’s all you can do, brother. Good or bad, find the funny.
“Maybe you and me are the only smart ones.”
I sure hope that ain’t the case, ’cause the world is in some trouble.
Blanks was HUGE!!! Thunderfoot huge
Hawks look absolutely horrible.
More Atlanta futility.
Half Empty—That’s why I inquired as to what other piece(s) it might take to acquire him. Again, starting pitching is a valuable chip…
November 2nd, 20129:59 pm
Banks dove for a ball once in left and it registered a 6.1 on the Richter Scale…..
November 2nd, 201210:00 pm
2 hours and counting until the Braves can sign Hamilton…and they are intrigued…could get interesting…more to come…
November 2nd, 201210:01 pm
It is more valuable if it is thought to be reliable, who knows what they think about Tommy now?
Dream on Pack
I just don’t believe Hamilton is on the horizon. But I’ve been wrong before…
November 2nd, 201210:02 pm
November 2nd, 201210:04 pm
nolie—Don’t you think there are some pitching coaches out there who think they can fix Tommy with just an adjustment or two? That’s what coaches do…right?
November 2nd, 201210:07 pm
actually I ain’t really arguing PF, I’m really not sure what they think overall. i know some folks who think he is toast and I know some who think he might stay about where he is, they all worry about his mechanics.
There prolly are some who think they can fix him, and they may even be right, they just need to be on a team that has a player we are interested in
November 2nd, 201210:08 pm
Like I said before, He is our Michael Morse.
It’ll be nice to tell all the naysayers on the blog I told you so when it happens…remember Wren said PREMIUM players…I don’t think Josh Willingham will sell more tickets.
November 2nd, 201210:09 pm
might be Powder, let’s find one. Minnesota would be a good start.
November 2nd, 201210:10 pm
Willingham is a premium player(well hitter at least), he has the 28th highest career OPS+ of all active players and he is cheap.
“can fix Tommy”
No mechanics change, at the point in his career, is going to make him throw the ball any harder, or spin the ball any more.
If his shoulder recovers some, we’ll see improvement. If he continues to sit at 89, 2012 is as good as he’ll ever be, going forward. I vote for the trade, at whatever return, and hope to the baseball gods that TOBF is underestimating his value.
November 2nd, 201210:11 pm
Half Empty ……… Loves Greinke, hates Willingham and Hanson
And tireless advocate for Peter Burjouls. Occasional one for the good Pastor Nicky.
November 2nd, 201210:12 pm
I don’t think anybody we can afford will sell more tickets unless we win a lot of games.
November 2nd, 201210:14 pm
Mechanics are coachable, right Empty? I know we’re all weary of Hanson, but I gotta believe someone thinks they can fix him at his relatively young age. When it comes to trading him for an outfielder of some value, maybe I am dreaming…
you are probably right about that Steve
November 2nd, 201210:18 pm
Hamilton will sell tickets and win games. Willingham will hit .250 and injure his back misjudging a flyball in LF.
there are not all that many players who have successfully changed their mechanics in mid-career. Hanson tried last winter, and we saw a bit of change, but like so many players when the pressure got heavy he regressed back to what he knew and felt comfortable with.
It can be done but it ain’t easy.
November 2nd, 201210:19 pm
wasn’t worth three posts, sorry
it also ain’t happening
November 2nd, 201210:20 pm
gotta go watch Grimm, see y’all later
November 2nd, 201210:23 pm
“Mechanics are coachable”
A little. But, dude made the bigs. He’s thrown that way a long, long time, in baseball years, whatever his age. And he throws like that because it worked for him. Very doubtful a change in mechanics would result in improved stuff.
He might throw without the hitch. He may relieve stress on the shoulder. But, he ain’t gonna recapture his stuff. I think this year was a prime example. We all remember the spring stories from ‘OB about his adjustment. If he changed much at all, I’m married to Maria Bello, and have a real deal for you on a used Buick.
I also think those odd mechanics make him harder to hit, harder to see, harder to pick up rotation. He starts long-arming like most RHers, he might get hit even harder, as difficult as that may be to believe.
Just my opinion; I’m a DA.
Oh well; guess I’ll move on to the next pipe dream. I’ll check in tomorrow with some other crazy notion. ‘Nite all…
I think it is worth exploring though like PF suggested, see what we would have to add.
November 2nd, 201210:26 pm
Ortiz changed a bit from that dart thrower delivery for a while if I remember, and I think he got hit around.
November 2nd, 201210:27 pm
I do think Tommy has some trade value, but I don’t have any idea how much, I just think it can’t be too much
Is it just me, or does the blog seem to be refreshing slowly tonight?
November 2nd, 201210:28 pm
Happy Belated BD, Mixxo.
Hawks lose their first game, ho hum. As many numbletards on here would say after the Braves lost their first game: Season!
However, in the Hawk’s case, it’s prolly true.
Happy Belated BD, Mixxo.
Yunel's Frosted Tips
November 2nd, 201210:30 pm
We ain’t signing Hamilton ……but if we did he would fall off the wagon and hit his head…..just our luck……..Tori Hunter can be had……..he has regressed……..but a right handed bat we could count on for some decent defense………get used to a Reed Johnson/Schafer platoon in center……
November 2nd, 201210:31 pm
Happy Birthday Mixxo
I sure hope not on center YFT
November 2nd, 201210:36 pm
This just in…..Giants don’t offer a qualifying offer to Pagan.
Anon21, TennPaul, et al: Thanks.
Jimmy, Torii Hunter hasn’t played CF the past couple of seasons because they’ve had two others better than him out there. At 37, I can’t see Braves getting him to play CF. Maybe if he wants to play LF….
They also want to get a CF who can bat leadoff, to replace Bourn assuming Bourn leaves.
November 2nd, 201210:37 pm
I meet an old guy yesterday that used to be a DA. Then he became a judge and eventually servered on an appeals court. He had some funny stories to tell about other judges and the law. He told about one of his friends that is, or was, one of only a handful of Federal Judges ever impeached.
I probably set there and talked with him for two hours while watching people come and go from the polls. Sharp guy, good time
What’s a DA?
November 2nd, 201210:38 pm
Still not proof reading
It could happen nolie don’t be such a pessimist. And I’ll say it as much as I want but it was a mistake. I’m on my phone.
I would be pretty good with Hunter in left for two years or so to allow Gattis to develop well
November 2nd, 201210:40 pm
So far, I’ve got …
Alaska Braves Fan
November 2nd, 201210:43 pm
I don’t pretend to know what’s going to happen in this off season, except except when I’m writing on this blog, but one thing about which I feel certain: The Braves will not re-sign Bourn!!!! Boras will get him a contract that includes deeding the entirety of Lichtenstein to him. The Nats may do that, but the Braves cannot and will not.
I’m more than a little skittish about any player who has had serious drug issues, such as Josh Hamilton. Pagan has some clubhouse issues, but probably would be a better fit, and he seems to be within the financial parameters the Braves need.
I would love to see Gattis playing for the big Braves next year. If he succeeds, it will be fun to watch.
We had a great season, and Frank Wren has a little slack to work with now since he has more money freed up. I’m upbeat about next season, unless we start signing players with questionable attitudes. I’m more than a little concerned about our having obtained Jordan Schaefer. Still, we have, overall, more upside than otherwise.
IMO there is nothing pessimistic about realizing that the Braves would have very little interest in a player with all of Hamilton’s baggage, that is just a firm grasp on reality.
DOWN ON THE FARM
Lead-off SS NICK AHMED [.326 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 HR , 1 RBI .
C CORY BROWNSTEN [.286 BA] 1-3, 1 RBI .
RHRP CORY RASMUS [BS 1, 10.61 ERA] 2.0 IP, 2 H, 1 HR, 1 R/ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.
November 2nd, 201210:47 pm
I think I’m going to sign off, I seem to be having browser troubles here tonight.
Let us all hope for a big signing soon
November 2nd, 201210:58 pm
Good stuff, abewright
November 2nd, 201211:07 pm
Awaiting moderation…other folks use this word, why me?
abeeewright: Aren’t you missing the most obvious one that fits a lot of posters on here: Dumb A ss.
November 2nd, 201211:14 pm
SOUTH OF THE BORDER
Lead-off CF JOSE CONSTANZA [.385 BA] 5-5, 3 R, 2 RBI 
LHRP JOSE LUGO [0.00 ERA] 1.0 IP, zeros, 1 BB, 0 SO.
DH JUAN FRANCISCO [.200 BA] 0-3, 1 SO.
C CHRISTIAN BETHANCOURT [.143 BA] 1-3, 1 R, 1 2B 
RHSP JULIO TEHERAN [6.00 ERA] 3.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R/ER, 1 BB, 2 SO.
RHS/RP RANDALL DELGADO [10.13 ERA] 2.2 IP, 4 H, 3 R/ER, 1 BB, 3 SO.
Ouch! He wasn’t fooling too many bats it appears.
TEHERAN 13 batters faced. DELGADO 12.
CF FELIX PIE [.286 BA] 2-3, 1 R, 1 HR , 1 RBI , 1 SO.
Lead-off CF TODD CUNNINGHAM 0-1 game in the bottom of the second.
C J.C. BOSCAN [.375 BA] 0-4, 1 SO.
C JOSE YEPEZ [.200 BA] 0-3
DH EVAN GATTIS [.306 BA] 0-4
1B ERNESTO MEJIA [.338 BA] 3-4, 3 R, 2 HR , 3 RBI .
I’ll spot you a HR and raise you one. ERNESTO pulls even in the HR-RBI race with GATTIS.
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