5:38 pm November 2, 2012, by David O'Brien
November 5th, 20127:20 pm
It’s still light here…
going by OPS+ he’s been above average four of the last 5 as far as I can see , only 2011 was below. but certainly not a favorite choice IMO
DS1 (getting a thrill up my leg!)
November 5th, 20127:21 pm
Who’s going to take a chance on Melky? Seems he will probably come at a 1 year bargain, and could be a good deal if all his improvement of the past 2 years was not just the PED’s.
I’d bet the farm the Braves wouldn’t give him the time of day after his little display at the Ted this past year. But this should be 5 teams in 5 years.
November 5th, 20127:23 pm
Yeah, they just turn the lights on. Gets late early, something I doubt I’ll ever get used to.
November 5th, 20127:26 pm
Depends on where you sit with the time zone. Boise has the opposite issue in mid summer. Stays light late.
you can still do your “shopping” though Bat
November 5th, 20127:33 pm
Ha, that’s true. Though the eye candy is sparser and more covered up.
November 5th, 20127:36 pm
Yeah, I did not move very far east when I moved here, more south. I was on the western edge of the eastern time zone, now the western edge of the central time zone.
It had me freaked out when I first moved here so I checked. It gets dark here around 55 minutes earlier.
November 5th, 20127:38 pm
Still not proofreading.
I did not move very far west
What does Cody Ross and Ryan Ludwick have in common?
true and that means you gotta be careful of those who still look good clothed but can surprise when you get them home
There once was a lawyer they called Mr. Clay.
He had but two clients and they would not pay.
At last of starvation he grew so afraid,
That he courted and married a wealthy old maid.
At the wedding the lawyer made one big mistake,
‘Twas not in omitting the wine or the cake,
The ring was well chosen, they had a big feed,
But the lawyer did not get a warranty deed.
He’s a very unfortunate, very unfortunate,
very unfortunate man.
Yes, he’s a very unfortunate, very unfortunate,
very unfortunate man.
At night in their chamber the lady arose,
And began to prepare to retire and repose,
Her husband stood near her admiring her charms,
That gave him such pleasure to hold in his arms.
She went to the washstand to bathe her fair face,
And thus she destroyed all her beauty and grace,
The rose on her cheek quickly grew very faint,
And he saw on the towel, ’twas nothing but paint.
She went to the mirror to take down her hair,
And when she had done so her scalp was all bare,
Said she: “Don’t be frightened to see my bald head,
“I’ll put on my cap when I get into bed.”
She hung her false hair on the wall on a peg,
Then she proceeded to take off her leg,
Her trembling husband got quite a surprise,
When she asked him to come and take out her glass eye.
[The following verse was not performed by CMT:]
Her husband was biting his quivering lips,
While she removed both her counterfeit hips,
Just then her false nose clattered down to the floor,
And the lawyer ran screaming right out of the door.
Now all you young men who would marry for life,
Be sure to examine your intended wife,
Remember the lawyer who trusted his eyes,
And a little bit later got quite a surprise.
Tomorrow is a important day. So do the RIGHT thing.
November 5th, 20127:41 pm
DS1 (getting a thrill up my leg!)
Better you than me.
What’s tomorrow, George George?
So the moral of the story is to not trust your eyes…………
November 5th, 20127:42 pm
naughty naughty, George_George
November 5th, 20127:43 pm
I like DAYLIGHT TIME better than STANDERD TIME. I hope that is not a political statement.
or cop a good exploratory feel b4 you sign up for life….
Just poking a little fun…………..
George_George, shut the F up.
November 5th, 20127:44 pm
I could see Wren approaching the Twins with a package to pry Willingham and Span away. Would likely have to include a couple of solid pitching prospects (Delgado being one), maybe Hanson (if the Twins could be convinced) and, let’s say, Cunningham.
Or is that too light for Willingham and Span?
I suspect I already did the wrong thing…
DS1 (getting a thrill up my leg!),
November 5th, 20127:45 pm
nolie got it
yes I think it is way too light for both
November 5th, 20127:46 pm
I think we all got it George.
hope that’s not your prostrate acting up Wayne….
November 5th, 20127:47 pm
nolie, what do think it would take to get Span and Willingham?
November 5th, 20127:48 pm
Both Cody and Ryan crush lefties?????
Better you than me.
I’d rather get a thrill somewhere else, but whatever suits you.
November 5th, 20127:51 pm
To get two outfielders from Minnesota (one being Willingham), I think you’re talking about Mike Minor plus one of Teheran/Delgado plus another piece or two.
Just my guess.
November 5th, 20127:53 pm
Yes, but that’s not the answer……..
Sounds perfect to me
November 5th, 20127:56 pm
I doubt Wren surrenders Minor. Maybe three solid pitching prospects plus a good position prospect (Ahem, Bethancourt, Cunningham, etc). From what I understand, the Twins need to restock and rebuild.
When GMs have thier winter meeting I hope they will suggest and/or request a different playoff system where two WCs do NOT play each other in first round and surEly NOT ONE GAME ONLY.
November 5th, 20127:58 pm
Red Sox, Cody Ross not close to agreement
Sweet. Hope Frank is involved
November 5th, 20127:59 pm
If I’m Minnesota I’d start by asking for Minor and one of Teheran/Delgado for Willingham. I might back off eventually, but that’s where I’d start.
I think we need the Angel Pagan. What a name!
November 5th, 20128:03 pm
For all that many here don’t like him, Willingham is a great trade piece, his career OPS+ is in the top 30 of current players and he is very very reasonable, he will bring a pretty good return or they will not trade him. Span will be cheaper but I don’t think they are gonna give those two away for hasbeens and never weres
November 5th, 20128:09 pm
They hit right, and throw left……… like Cleon Jones did back in the day.
November 5th, 20128:10 pm
November 5th, 2012
I an afrade MIN will want way more than FRANK will be willing to give.
November 5th, 20128:11 pm
Great trade piece for the Twins. A massive sell-high. If I’m them, I ask for the moon. Minor, Teheran, Spruill, Cunningham, and Ahmed. Maybe even take Hanson as well.
No need to settle for less. He’s your teams MVP, fan favorite, and has a very good contract. Not gonna be traded easily, esp with multiple teams possibly interested.
If I’m Frank though, I say thanks but no thanks, and move on. Go after Ross/Pence and Greinke along with a defensive star in CF
November 5th, 20128:14 pm
Willingham is definitely the guy to get. Only question mark is the balky back. But otherwise he is solid.
Brian Hunter did that with the Braves IIRC, not very common. you wonder why they didn’t learn to switch hit
November 5th, 20128:16 pm
yeah George I doubt Frank trades for Willingham
November 5th, 20128:18 pm
Cody Ross and Pence are slight drop offs to Willingham. But Pence is not on the market. Giants are keeping him. Ross would be a good sign if you can’t get Willingham.
November 5th, 20128:20 pm
True (on the lefty throwing righty hittings)
Da Man, Rickey Henderson was the best of the group of players who were lefties who hit right.
Well Nite all, Peanut out then kickoff I love dogs so hate VICK. DO IT SAINTS.
November 5th, 20128:21 pm
I’d like Wren to acquire Pagan, but I think Pagan could be bid up fairly quickly. Is Wren willing to spend more money for Pagan than he might like?
November 5th, 20128:24 pm
If I’m them, I ask for the moon. Minor, Teheran, Spruill, Cunningham, and Ahmed. Maybe even take Hanson as well.
If you were them you would trade his old, about to fall off a cliff, bad back, coming off a career year, ass for whatever you could get.
November 5th, 20128:25 pm
Zack Greinke – Six years, $150 million
That’s crazy. I know revenues are up, but yikes.
November 5th, 20128:26 pm
Do the right thing? wasn’t that a Spike Lee movie? How ironic.
There are rumors that the Giants may non-tender Pence and sign Hamilton instead…. They’d be be better served to trade him though. Teheran, Spruill, and another prospect
Willingham has avgd around 110 games in the field for his last 4 years I believe. He’s DH’d some others frequently. I wonder if he could hold up for 135-150 games out in LF… Especially considering we play in hit, miserable Atlanta. He just made his career high in gams played in cool Minnesota
November 5th, 20128:28 pm
Sounds about right for Bourn – five years, $80-85 million. Upton for five years, $65-70 million.
Bring the lumber
November 5th, 20128:48 pm
Two words Justin Upton! Bowman was talking about it taking Teharan or Delgado. I would trade one of them Hanson and two more prospect just not Betencourt. Sign Victorino.
November 5th, 20128:49 pm
Bourn might get 16-17 per for 5 or more years, but he damned sure ain’t worth that much.
November 5th, 20128:52 pm
I personally think Victorino will cost too much, and is in decline.
November 5th, 20128:54 pm
sounds about right Ef, maybe even a bit more
November 5th, 20128:57 pm
DS1 would you rather have Willingham or Upton?
November 5th, 20129:00 pm
if they really think that Gattis has a legit shot they are prolly not gonna do an Justin Upton deal
November 5th, 20129:01 pm
if they really think that Gattis has a legit shot they are prolly not gonna do a Justin Upton deal
November 5th, 20129:02 pm
November 5th, 20129:04 pm
I’d rather have Willingham. He is more of an injury risk, but Upton is a risk to not meet up to expectations.
The Braves will probably play it safe.
If Pagan goes for around 10 million per, he is likely to get signed by the Bravos.
Either Pagan and Willingham or Span and Ross. One free agent and one trade acquisition. My guess.
November 5th, 20129:06 pm
Having said that, now FW will probably get Hamilton and Fowler just to make me look silly.
November 5th, 20129:07 pm
I don’t think they turn down a J.Upton deal because of Gattis.
November 5th, 20129:10 pm
Justin Upton has more question marks than Willingham. And the Braves don’t match up well with the D’backs. They need position players, not prospect pitchers.
But I would not be totally unhappy with a Justin Upton deal.
Don’t believe Wren will trade anyone if he can fill LF with Gattis, sign Pagan for CF and use the rest of the cash to go after Greinke.
November 5th, 20129:11 pm
I do if they really think he is the real deal, but truthfully I don’t think there is a snowballs chance in hell of them getting Justin anyway
Jazz up by 3 on the road at halftime tonight.
(yes, I know you are thrilled to hear that nolie!)
November 5th, 20129:12 pm
NWIH do they pay Greinke that kinda money, not even close to that kinda money
November 5th, 20129:13 pm
Frank needs to give us something to talk about later this week.
November 5th, 20129:15 pm
I don’t agree with Upton being a bigger risk as Willingham. Upton is coming into his prime and Josh is at the end of his. And I would rather risk a guy who has an injuried thumb over a older guy with a bad back. The D-backs want a vetran pitcher and I think hanson fits that and we can sweeten the pot with prospects.
Greinke is a very good pitcher. But he damned sure ain’t one of the elite’s of the league. But somebody will give him the dough.
November 5th, 20129:18 pm
The D-backs want a vetran pitcher and I think hanson fits that and we can sweeten the pot with prospects. BTL
man you are totally dreaming if you really think that would be anything but laughed at
November 5th, 20129:19 pm
Hanson! Are you kidding me?? Now THAT is funny.
The D’backs do NOT need starting pitching.
and when Justin does it TWO years in a row, then I’ll consider that maybe he has matured enough to call elite.
You are way off on this one “Bring the Lumber”
November 5th, 20129:20 pm
DS1. You are spot on. Greinke or Bourn is not worth the money but someone will pay it.
November 5th, 20129:22 pm
You are saying that delgado or Teharan and Hanson or Mahalom and two more prospects would be laughed at…i think other wise.
Think in terms of being the GM of the other team. You have a guy with a load of potential that you are not sure will ever achieve said potential. BUT, you know that he is coveted around baseball. You need a left side of the infield and maybe a catcher.
And then Frank Wren offers you Tommy Hanson and a couple of good prospects. NOW, tell me you don’t belly laugh at that offer.
November 5th, 20129:26 pm
Go look at the D’backs roster and splain to me how they need your mediocre starters and starting prospects. They have their own starters and prospect starters.
November 5th, 20129:27 pm
Was surfing on TV and came across True Lies with Arnold Schwarennegger and Jamie Lee Curtis. Was there a better looking woman twenty years ago than her? Beautiful, athletic body.
The Diamondbacks could seek an experienced starting pitcher in a trade for an outfielder. Though they have an assortment of promising young starting pitchers, Towers has said he’d like to acquire a veteran starter this winter
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/arizona_diamondbacks/page/2/#svszK78uSUlSmUhr.99
November 5th, 20129:32 pm
I liked that flick a lot, and yeah she had a GREAT bod
“Was surfing on TV and came across True Lies with Arnold Schwarennegger and Jamie Lee Curtis. Was there a better looking woman twenty years ago than her? Beautiful, athletic body
Remember her in Trading Places? Anyway, many of us grow up with her as one of the hottest in Hollywood and now she’s hawking stool softener. Man, that kind of slam dunks the sex symbol image.
November 5th, 20129:34 pm
We should trade Hanson straight up for Greinke.
they mean a good experienced pitcher not Hanson or Maholm. and ‘for an outfielder’ does not specify Upton.
November 5th, 20129:38 pm
OK, I saw where somebody speculated that he was looking for a SS, third baseman, lefty specialist and a starting pitcher.
But realistically, do you trade your best trade chip for a pitcher, when your top needs are SS and 3B?
We’re talking about rotation depth of Kennedy, Cahill, Miley, Collmenter, Bauer and Skaggs. Not to mention Corbin and Hudson.
They might be interested in a proven veteran. Not a Hanson type (nor prospects).
Now, if you dangled Simmons or Prado; you’d get their attention. But that does not serve your needs as well.
November 5th, 20129:40 pm
Battery gone. I’m outta here.
November 5th, 20129:42 pm
Braves do not match up well with the dbacks but they do match up very well with the twins.
November 5th, 20129:46 pm
Twins will not trade 2 OF in the same trade. It would be like getting a combo gift for birthday/Christmas – better present but not nearly as much as you would get if you got birthday presents and Christmas presents separately.
November 5th, 20129:47 pm
“NHL need to get this season going. Bettman can’t honestly have another lost season. This time…. I blame the owners.”
Fact is that most teams lose less by not operating.
November 5th, 20129:58 pm
“I can still see you are bitter and upset about the ass beating the Falcons received at the hands of My Packers in 2010. It’s alright Carl let it all out, you’ve held it in for too long.”
I had hoped the Falcons could have been more competitive, but it’s hard to get past teams like the Packers that had everything going that season. But, really, I’m way past the point of spending more that a few seconds dwelling on an ass whooping when it comes to sports teams. I was depressed the whole time it took me to get another Mich Ultra out of the fridge and then load an episode of Larry Sanders or Seinfeld.
November 5th, 201210:03 pm
Finally made the top 25 posters list. Right behind DOB. Really proud right now. I mean, that’s a big deal. It really is. I could feel my time coming then boom I see my name. You guys just don’t know what a tremendous honor it is for me at this stage in my life! I want to thank the Academy……
Rock on……you can’t hide talent.
November 5th, 201210:15 pm
November 5th, 2012
When GMs have thier winter meeting I hope they will suggest and/or request a different playoff system where two WCs do NOT play each other in first round and surEly NOT ONE GAME
Well as I contend we would all be better off by not calling it a playoff game. It’s a play-in game to determine the wild card entrant. More rational thinking that way. View it as the end of the regular season. It’s perfect at one game. That’s all two wild cards deserve anyway. Do you really want to see a best of 3 or 5 between two wild cards? Really?
Steve from OH
November 5th, 201210:25 pm
If Bettman wasn’t so deadset on having NHL teams in the southern US, this lockout wouldn’t be happening.
November 5th, 201210:39 pm
But there’s still hockey fans in the southern US
November 5th, 201210:45 pm
view however you want, I will too
November 5th, 201210:47 pm
But there are a lot more in places like Quebec…
November 5th, 201210:50 pm
would you still view it that way if it were the best of three or five?
November 5th, 201210:57 pm
Didn’t a franchise fail in Quebec?
November 5th, 201211:02 pm
That had more to do with marketing difficulties re: the Frenchness of Quebec moreso than lack of fan support, which was pretty robust if I remember correctly. But what I’m reading now suggests a franchise there is much more financially tenable than one in Phoenix, for instance.
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