5:38 pm November 2, 2012, by David O'Brien
November 5th, 20121:49 am
That’s bizaar as all hell… my 1:43 post to Wayne, from an hour ago, lost the word, “know”, from I don’t KNOW anyone…, during that time change.
I SWEAR it was in there, before…
November 5th, 20121:52 am
Now my, “bizaare”, just lost the… ahh, nevermind
November 5th, 20121:53 am
The Blog corrected for the time change in the last hour, so many or the posts are mixed up.
November 5th, 20122:01 am
You should have tried blogging through that, ken. It was a very different experience!
November 5th, 20122:15 am
Bobby H: I did, as soon as my paragraph posted, there were a bunch posts after mine that I had already read. It was weird.
November 5th, 20122:31 am
I ended up just having fun with it… as I’m sure you could figure by my first 2 posts on the top of this page – not to mention my DOB-post prediction. BTW, I NAILED it!
November 5th, 20125:22 am
Dallas had a Top5 defense coming in…. Ryan passed for over 300, and the team rushed for over 100.
The Giants look great one week, , can play terribly the next. Heck they even do it in the same game sometimes! Falcons are pretty consistent and can close the game in the 4th Q. We’ve got the talent and the fundamentals.
November 5th, 20126:25 am
36? Sorry. Yeah, you can’t walk off an island, I agree. Down in JUPITER he was 5-12. He’s pretty aggressive at the plate and on the bases. In this show, the pitchers couldn’t or wouldn’t throw strikes to him for the most part.
November 5th, 20127:29 am
Do some of you ever sleep? You are on here all different times of the day and night.
November 5th, 20127:54 am
I want some player movement or the nhl to end this lockout….. because after football it becomes a dark cold time in maine and I dont really like basketball…… anyways I think the braves sign hamilton and gattis becomes your LF’er….. either way I think gattis becomes the opening day LF’er and it will depend on who we get for CF…. I am not sold on having bethencourt behind the plate at all…. Great def of catcher but not a good hitting catcher…. GO braves make some moves!!
November 5th, 20127:56 am
brian, you’re not the Brian with a brother who is a lawyer in Atlanta, are you? Former 790 The Zone regular? Just checking.
November 5th, 20127:58 am
CF: Pagan, Victorino, Revere, Span, Bourjos
LF: Justin Upton, Willingham, Cody Ross, Gattis
None of these are terrible. I know I have missed several that keep coming up.
November 5th, 20128:23 am
Apparently. Here, let me help…
November 5th, 20129:07 am
Look for the Yankees to re-sign Russell Martin, but the Bombers have had their eye on free agent David Ross, who has served as Brian McCann’s backup with the Braves since 2009.
Umm…. Yankees could afford to spend. Stay here, DRoss!
The Cardinals and second baseman Skip Schumaker may be parting ways this offseason as the veteran no longer has a defined role with the club thanks to the emergence of young talent.
Lefty bat, but he can play all 3 OF positions and 2B. Even pitched an inning and recorded 2 Ks. Making 1.5mil next year. If we can’t resign Reed, he may be a good get.
November 5th, 20129:30 am
FALCONS: Made it to 8-0, disappointing Al Michaels and especially Cris Collinsworth in the process. Stacked 453 yards on Rob Ryan’s star-spangled Dallas defense.
A battle of defenses: Rob’s ‘Boys lose to Nolan’s No Names
November 5th, 20129:57 am
I love seeing Rob getting all bent outta shape.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
November 5th, 201210:13 am
“Get Out The WAYYYY!!!!!!!!! (Boom!) Pretty Boy Coming Through! Me And My Crew! We Swaggin In The Room!”
Whats Up All, Miss Me Yet???
S/O To Mixxo
November 5th, 201210:20 am
I need opinions on The Josh Hamiliton Rumor that he Braves Might Pursue him…
Is he a Calculated Risk…? If anything he will put Cheeks in the seats because the fanbase in the Atlanta area are getting stale with this 1 and done team, and the attendace during weekday games proves it
Matt Chernoff was on Point in that he claims that the Braves Should make the Calculated Risk of signing him and letting B-Macc Walk after the 2013 season…because AL teams in my opinion are gonna Pay B-Macc a lot more than What Y. Molina got due to his track record and he could DH.
Face it people B-Macc could hit 30 Homers as a DH, and 30 homer catchers/DH dont grow on trees like they did 10 years ago in the pinnacle of the Roid era
His only worry would be the amount of years in his contract. I wouldn’t go no higher than 4 years…
November 5th, 201210:25 am
“His only worry would be the amount of years in his contract. I wouldn’t go no higher than 4 years…”
In that statement, That was in regards to pursuing Josh Hamiliton…I would not go no higher than 4 years…
I think that Bourn will set the Market once he signs either with The Phillies or The Curley W…
Slow morning on the ol’ blog. Time change got all the old guys messed up or something?
November 5th, 201210:30 am
Braves minor leaguers LF/C Evan Gattis and 1B Ernesto Mejia each has 5 HRs & 17 RBI in 21 games for Aguilas in Venezuela. Gattis has a .300 average and .911 OPS in 80 at-bats with 11 strikeouts and five walks; Mejia is hitting .333/.927 with 27 strikeouts and two walks in 84 at-bats. (By the way, that’s not easy to do, hitting .333 with a .927 OPS while racking up 27 strikeouts and two walks in 84 ABs.)
Hamilton isn’t coming to Atlanta. I’m hoping we can put something together with Texas and pry Olt from them, I’d also like to see Gentry come over in the trade as well. Then I’d like to see us go after Haren as long as his asking price doesn’t explode.
November 5th, 201210:32 am
just got a look at the list of qualifying offers. glad to see wren offered to bourn, and its interesting to see that swisher and upton got qualifying offers as well. i guess we can cross those two off our potential list.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
November 5th, 201210:36 am
Hamilton’s agent is asking 7 years AV $25MM/year. Don’t think that’s going to work for the Braves.
November 5th, 201210:37 am
If it comes down to a decision between Swisher or Upton.. I sure hope we’d choose Upton. Not a big fan of Swisher and I don’t think he would deliver what we’d need him too.
DS1 (getting a thrill up my leg!)
November 5th, 201210:40 am
Smilin Frank needs to make a deal so we can have something to talk about, huh?
November 5th, 201210:43 am
the hamilton thing is fun to think about, but just isnt realistic. and, its not because he is a lefty. hes the kind of hitter you get if you can, no matter what side of the play he stands on. the money just wouldnt work. i think he stays in texas, with the possibility he ends up in detroit or baltimore.
November 5th, 201210:44 am
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
If I had to guess today, I’d say Texas. But it’s way early. RT @20AdamV: @ajcbraves Where do you think Josh Hamilton will sign?
He’d go back to Texas? Hmmm
Hamilton’s agent is asking 7 years AV $25MM/year. Don’t think that’s going to work for the Braves.
Can’t see any smart GM giving him that… we’ll see how smart the GMs are this winter.
November 5th, 201210:46 am
“Hamilton isn’t coming to Atlanta. I’m hoping we can put something together with Texas and pry Olt from them,”
Yes, I was Lusting for Olt, 2 months ago…And will do it now…Unggghhhh!!!!
WE WANT OLT! WE WANT OLT!
And OTOH, Its only a Matter of time before Big Red Gets Dealt, Put your Money on him getting traded to Kansas City, The are The Braves of the AL, They are In deep with Frank Wren
November 5th, 201210:48 am
“If it comes down to a decision between Swisher or Upton.. I sure hope we’d choose Upton. Not a big fan of Swisher and I don’t think he would deliver what we’d need him too”
At 12 Mill, I will take Swisher and his 20-80 production while hitting 7th anyday…Give him 3 years and 40 mill, my only beef with Swisher is that he is prone to the K, But he cant be no worse than Struggla
If Texas is (possibly) losing Hamilton, I don’t see why they’d give up Olt too
November 5th, 201210:49 am
S/O to Tomahawkin !!
I’ve got Bird Fever! ♥
So, what do you do with Mejia? Stash him in Gwinett as insurance against an injury to Freeman? Trade him? Bring him up as a RH pinch hitter? Since they put him on the 40 man roster there must be some kind of plan.
November 5th, 201210:50 am
I’m guessing Texas will resign Hamilton but if they don’t, I don’t think it would determine whether or not if they move Olt.
November 5th, 201210:52 am
Actually, Swisher would provide exactly what we need. Decent corner defense, swithc hitter and power with a good OBP. The question would be if he would be worth the years it would take to sign him.
Then again, it’s probably a foregone conclusion that anyone we get we will have to overpay for with all the TV money coming into play next year.
Swish is a hot dog too but, maybe we need that!
Did y’all see the want in Pagan’s eyes?!
Could use some of that too.
November 5th, 201210:53 am
The thing is, what do you do if we acquire Olt and he takes 3rd and then Gattis shows he’s capable of taking LF. What then do you do with Prado?
Maybe the team should try and pry Adrian Beltre away from the Rangers… with Olt ready, they’d be more than covered at 3B, and losing Beltre could give them the financial flexibility they need to go after the FA market.
Not gonna happen because he’d cost too much money and too many prospects, but the guy is a damn good ballplayer.
November 5th, 201210:55 am
What then do you do with Prado?
Convert him to a left-handed reliever
“Every Rose Has Its Thorn!”
Too Much Good Stuff!
That probably wouldn’t come into play this year of course.. just thinking ahead. But Olt would definitely provide good power from the corner, but he may not be ready to take over full time this year.
November 5th, 201210:56 am
Might as well, who knows…
November 5th, 201210:58 am
I like Swisher too as a LF’er. But my only concern is would he be good enough to be the 4th or 5th hitter we need in the lineup, or would the pressure of that situation be too much for him.
I guess that’s not an answer we will get until he hits there.
November 5th, 201210:59 am
Swisher is basically the previous 5 years of Uggla before he came to Atlanta… except we’d be signing him 2 years older. He had wanted a Werth-type deal (which would be too much), but may have to settle for a deal similar to Uggla’s.
I wouldn’t go 4-5 years on him though. 2-3 10-13mil each year. But he was offered a qual. offer, and we can’t afford to lose another 1st round pick, so….
November 5th, 201211:02 am
Catcher…. or 2B Maybe he could play CF.
Re Swisher… could he hit 3rd or 4th in this lineup? To pay him that amount to hit 6-7…..
November 5th, 201211:03 am
Considering that we’ll get a supplementary pick for Bourn which won’t be THAT far from where we would pick in the first round, anyway, not so sure losing the first rounder makes that much of a difference. Besides we pick so low in the first round you wouldn’t be getting nyone that great to begin with.
mike in VA
November 5th, 201211:13 am
DOB – In being around the team and management, who do you think we would most likely go after for center field (assuming that Bourn doesn’t resign)? Best guess.
November 5th, 201211:17 am
lew Actually, Swisher would provide exactly what we need. Decent corner defense, swithc hitter and power with a good OBP. The question would be if he would be worth the years it would take to sign him.
i dont think i want to lose a draft pick for him, unless we get desperate. given the qualifying offer he got, plus the $$$ and years he will require, id much rather have willingham, or make a run at J Upton. i do like swisher though. he always produces. he would probably have to hit 4th for us.
‘Go after’ and ‘get’ are two different things.
November 5th, 201211:19 am
Besides we pick so low in the first round you wouldn’t be getting nyone that great to begin with.
Mike Trout- #25; Simmons, Freeman, Glavine all 2nd round picks
Can’t really say the pick would be no good. Plus, we’ve given up quite a few picks lately, and the farm needs improving. Especially if we need to trade for the 2nd OF spot. (and possibly pitching next winter)
We need those 2 picks.
November 5th, 201211:34 am
I didn’t say it wouldn’t be good -st that it wouldn’t be all that much higher than the supplemental pick would be.
Need to face facts – One draft pick does not re-stock the farm system after losing Heyward, Freeman, Simmons, Hanson, Medlen, Venters and Kimbrel from the ranks of prospecthood the last couple of years.
November 5th, 201211:35 am
DAN PATRICK is back on TV. He is on NBC SPORTS NET, also he is back on radio in ATL.
November 5th, 201211:40 am
OH NO! I killed the blog. I am sorry.
November 5th, 201211:43 am
What would you offer Pagan if you were FW? — Webster
3-4 years at up to $10 million per season, but try to stay closer to $8 million per and keep it to 3 yrs plus option.
November 5th, 201211:51 am
“S/O to Tomahawkin !!
I’ve got Bird Fever! ♥”
Me Too, But Im waiting to see what we do in The Playoffs, The Bandwagon is in Full Effect Mode, Hell I even know a Foreskins Fan who has Jumped on the HOOOOOOO-TRAIN! AKA the Falcons Bandwagon
Is the time warp back? Things seem… odd… around here this morning.
November 5th, 201211:59 am
I believe a good move would be to go after Adam LaRoche (again) to play first and move Freddy Freeman to 3rd base…the guy can stop a ball at any position. Go after Cody Ross since he loves hitting in Atlanta and move Prado to center. Better get David Ross signed because he’s a good clubhouse leader and sign Reed Johnson…the guy has that hardnosed approach to the game.
If I’m the GM and negotiating with Scott Boras for Michael Bourn, I’d start off by explaining that for roughly 50% of the season, Michael is a 15 million dollar a year guy. And for the other 50% of the year, he is a great defending 220 hitter; worth not much more than minimum salary.
Then I’d offer him 8 million per year for 5 years. Of course, SB would start talking about revenue streams and everything else that don’t mean a hill of beans when it comes to analyzing Michael’s value. And we’d never get anywhere. But that’s what I’d say.)
November 5th, 201212:02 pm
“Me Too, But Im waiting to see what we do in The Playoffs, The Bandwagon is in Full Effect Mode, Hell I even know a Foreskins Fan who has Jumped on the HOOOOOOO-TRAIN! AKA the Falcons Bandwagon” – Tomahawkin
lol@ the Foreskins Fan
Yeah, where were the bandwaggoners when we were strugglin’? Oh well, there’s room…..jump on!!
November 5th, 201212:04 pm
Only problem with that scenario is you’d be real weak at two more positions, unless FF is better at third base than we’ve been lead to believe. Why not just go get Cody Ross and a strong CF’er? Denard Span maybe?
Is Cody good enough to hit 45h or 5th in our lineup? Or do we solve the cleanup hitter dilemma by moving Prado to third and Heyward to 4th?
November 5th, 201212:05 pm
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
#Braves sign RHP Wirfin Obispo to minor league deal with ML spring training invite. Older prospect, good numbers with #Reds AA this year.
November 5th, 201212:09 pm
Obispo has over 1K per inning and a .913 WHIP last year in 77 IP.
27 years old, but whatever. He’s cheap.
November 5th, 201212:11 pm
Whatever happened to signing guys you can spell and pronounce? Like Joe Taylor or Mack Little.
November 5th, 201212:14 pm
Tommy Hanson’s replacement? He has started some.
Or maybe a cheap version of the RH power pitcher in the ‘pen if he proves himself. Low risk, decent reward if he performs in ST
November 5th, 201212:17 pm
Full $300,000-plus playoff share for Melky.
November 5th, 201212:22 pm
November 5th, 2012
Full $300,000-plus playoff share for Melky
Seems fair to me. SF most likely would not have won it without the cheater.
November 5th, 201212:24 pm
Braves signed 28-yr-old righty Wirfin Obispo to minor league deal with spring invite to big-league camp. Dominican pitcher is a Japanese-league veteran who went 5-2 with a 2.23 ERA in 25 games (10 starts) for Reds’ Double-A Pensacola affiliate in 2012, but 0-1 with a 6.05 ERA in 10 games (3 starts) for the Reds’ Triple-A Louisville team, with more walks (15) than strikeouts (14) in 19-1/3 innings.
For the season, he had a 3.00 ERA in 35 games (13 starts), with 77 strikeouts and 28 walks in 76-2/3 innings. Hasn’t pitched in majors here.
So cheaters do prosper….
November 5th, 201212:30 pm
November 5th, 2012
I believe I saw the other day you are 17 years old. You are intelligent beyound your years.
November 5th, 201212:33 pm
lets get hamilton
but make it billy instead of josh
lot younger better defense and better bat control than bourn
not to mention the fact that he’s faster too
although he had a poor second half in ‘12 Bourn’s first/second half career splits are pretty even. It has not been his history to tail off greatly like that
November 5th, 201212:35 pm
Weren’t the Giants and Dodgers tied on the day that Melky got suspended?
Seems the Giants won it despite Melky, not because of him.
November 5th, 201212:42 pm
At the beginning of the year I wanted the braves to sign bourn and was really hoping they would but as the season went on I realized that he can run and play cf really well…. the bad part of him is he strikes out way to much and he doesnt have a real good cf arm so I am all for letting him walk and the braves go out and get a power bat… thats what they really need!!
November 5th, 201212:45 pm
Wirfin Obispo: Braves in search of the next Eric O’Flaherty…..a gem in the rough.
November 5th, 201212:47 pm
DOB, Scott Boras was quoted recently as saying each team should have a much as 25 million extra to spend from the new MLB TV deal. Have Braves acknowledged this? And do they intend to use on player contracts?
i go along with that maine,find another young cf for 40 man roster and find a real slugger for left field or third base and if tehran or delgado still aint ready to percolate , get one more top quality pitcher
November 5th, 201212:54 pm
I sure am glad I will soon be getting many less phone calls.
“a real slugger for left field or third base”
Now, THAT’s the real hard part. How many of those guys are available? Hamilton, but is he affordable? Headley and Wright for third, but are they available? Then we get to the next tier: Willingham, Cody Ross, etc.
Much easier said than done four shore.
November 5th, 201212:57 pm
agreed ncgary….. I mean we could us a guy like marquis grissom (wow throw back) who was an all around great baseball player…. bourn to me is 2 dimensional…. I mean grissom only struck out over 100 times in a season twice….. he is the center fielder the braves should look for
I’d think an old fart like yourself would appreciate a call or two?
Like the old widow said, “I don’t care what you call me, so long as you do!”
November 5th, 201212:59 pm
agreed ncgary….. I mean we could us a guy like marquis grissom (wow throw back) who was an all around great baseball player…. bourn to me is 2 dimensional…. I mean grissom only struck out over 100 times in a season twice….. he is the center fielder the braves should look for.
November 5th, 20121:01 pm
sorry about the double post…… to me I dont care if bourn comes back at the price he wants !… Damn do I miss grissom haha
But I thought you enjoyed our chats….
November 5th, 20121:04 pm
if there is one slot in the lineup where Ks do not mean much it is at lead off, most of the time you either get on or you don’t, as long as the OBP is good the Ks don’t make all that much a difference
Braves have spoken to Durbin’s agent. So have other teams. I’d imagine they re-sign him long as it’s reasonable price.
November 5th, 20121:06 pm
Has Bourn stopped laughing yet?
And Wirfin Obispo….oh boy. I guess this isn’t an april fools….
November 5th, 20121:07 pm
Durbin isn’t a power RHP…..
Great stuff from Crasnick in his annual survey of MLB execs and scouts, including where they think Hamilton and Greinke will end up:
November 5th, 20121:09 pm
he is the center fielder the braves should look for.
Just keep repeating “Bourn was too expensive, Bourn struck out too much, Bourn was two-dimensional, etc.” to yourself next year when the CF is running with his back to the IF to pick up the ball at the base of the wall. I imagine that will make folks feel oh so much better.
I don’t think they should give him the moon and the stars, either, but I’m not fooling myself about the downgrade that will occur.
agreed to a point nolie but when your leadoff hitter has struckout over 120 times in a season for 3-4 years then yes I am concerned esp with uggs whiffing alot to between the both of them it was over 300 strikeout this year…. way to much grissom struck out over 100 times twice in his career and kenny lofton never struck out over 100 times in his whole career ( I do dislike kenny lofton)…. Bourns good dont get me wrong but not for the price of what he is demanding
November 5th, 20121:11 pm
No doubt Bourn is an elite CF’er defensively, but at what cost?
November 5th, 20121:12 pm
when the CF is running with his back to the IF to pick up the ball at the base of the wall. I imagine that will make folks feel oh so much better. Scoots
You just described Bourn…
November 5th, 20121:14 pm
bravesfaninmaine but when your leadoff hitter has struckout
ok, stop right there. you dont need to worry about how much your leadoff hitter strikes out. it really doesnt matter.
Here’s the question: How many times did Bourn K with runners in scoring position with less than 2 outs. (or better yet, what was his rate of K’s in that situation).
November 5th, 20121:19 pm
Just keep repeating “Bourn was too expensive, Bourn struck out too much, Bourn was two-dimensional, etc.” to yourself next year when the CF is running with his back to the IF to pick up the ball at the base of the wall.
I could get a CF who’d cost under a mil to perform similarly to Bourn, and at worst hit like Bourn did in the 2nd half of the season. Where we had a better winning %. This CF however, has the potential to hit when healthy and given regular playing time. He’s done so before. RH bat. Similar last name to Michael.
And Wirfin Obispo….oh boy.
Picked up solely because he’s auto-nicknamed.
November 5th, 20121:22 pm
I’m with ya on Bourjos. But if Hunter is leaving, there’s a good chance he won’t be available. Too many folk on here look at his numbers without realizing he was hurt last year with a wrist issue.
I could get a CF who’d cost under a mil to perform similarly to Bourn
No. You can’t. Unless by “similarly”, you mean “not in the same zipcode, but maybe the same universe.”
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