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Schafer is back, but not to replace Bourn

6:10 pm November 1, 2012, by David O'Brien

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Carl Farvman

November 2nd, 2012
7:32 am

“What is the Braves’ infatuation with Jordan Schafer?

Hitting .211 he’ll blend in nicely with Dan Uggla and Brian McCann.

Insurance? (should I laugh or cry?)”

Insurance for what? They can’t get a young AAA player to put up his numbers and start developing a major league player. What is it about these retreads that seem to stick even though a truckload of minor league guys would be as good or better….and then bloggers will jump on board with this made up ‘insurance” schtik.

Kramer

November 2nd, 2012
7:56 am

It is football season and we are in the heat of the election. I am too consumed with both to care about this move. Good, bad or indifferent.

Wanted, new Manger.

November 2nd, 2012
8:00 am

STUPID, to bring back this BOZO. When he was with, the Braves, the first time. His, play, didn’t EMPRESS,ANYONE. He’ll be riding, the pine pony. Braves, need to get Josh Hamilton.

Coach D

November 2nd, 2012
8:15 am

“Not that Constanza could play at the major league level consistently…….”
I think the same thing was said of Gregor Blanco who contributed to getting the SF Giants a world series ring…. I’m tired of seeing homegrown minor league talent groomed to the major league level & then not given a chance!!!
Give Constanza a chance! Schafer, send him to another team in a trade!

Darryl Blackberry

November 2nd, 2012
8:28 am

Constanza, Schafer, Gattis…let them all compete this spring for a job, and may the best player win a spot on the 40-man roster. There’s no reason to think that just because Wren picked Schafer up off the slag heap will signal any kind of job security for him. If Jordan doesn’t do well, the Braves can always put him back on waivers, so why worry about a relatively minor, low-cost move?

don

November 2nd, 2012
8:34 am

Schafer could be a very good pickup. Fans should give him a chance. His overall numbers aren’t much lower than Bourn’s numbers after the all-star game. Bourn won’t be worth what he gets in free agency. Dump him and look elsewhere.

Braves fan 1957

November 2nd, 2012
9:10 am

Ref Schafer, he reminds me of a hockey player, who will remain nameless, once said” I have all the tools to play this game, the only problem is, I don’t have a tool box to put them in”! Enough said!!!

Old Braves Fan

November 2nd, 2012
9:34 am

MY goodness, aren;t we awful quick to criticize Wren for picking someone off the waiver wire at very low cost with no risk. HE does have some talent and who knows he may finally mature enough to play well and if not, he is gone and nothing lost. Wouldn;t it be nice if we could all be G.M.’s and have our own teams to screw up?

Bob the Blogger

November 2nd, 2012
9:35 am

I agree, he’s just swinging at too many pitches, according to the stats. Swinging at strikes on the corners is not really being selective. In order to determine if a batter is selective, we need to analyze hitters’ strikes vs pitchers’ strikes, understanding that there are locations in the strike zone that one batter can hit that another batter can’t.

Bob the Blogger

November 2nd, 2012
9:39 am

Never mind above post, I posted it on the wrong blog.

Carroll

November 2nd, 2012
9:47 am

@Brownie: LOL! Hamilton is too much risk for the braves’ taste? This is a franchise that has historically shown willingness to take chances on guys with previous drug issues, image problems and baggage such as Deion Sanders, Otis Nixon, Lonnie Smith, Bobby Bonilla, Gary Sheffield, John Rocker, and Raul Mondesi, just to name a few. Hamilton is worth the risk if the numbers are right.

Scott

November 2nd, 2012
9:56 am

McClouth was never the same after his collision with Heyward. I think his concussion issues were THE issue. He finally seemed to come back for the O’s . But no, the Braves shouldn’t sign him. Not sold on Hamilton (or Shafer). Addiction demons, even controlled, are still demons. I’d could see Pagan or Victorino in CF or even an Upton. Martin to 3rd is the no-brainer. Sign Ross ASAP. I wouldn’t go too high for Bourn, MAYBE 85-90m tops. Willingham could be worth a reasonably priced shot.

Scott

November 2nd, 2012
9:56 am

McClouth was never the same after his collision with Heyward. I think his concussion issues were THE issue. He finally seemed to come back for the O’s . But no, the Braves shouldn’t sign him. Not sold on Hamilton (or Shafer). Addiction demons, even controlled, are still demons. I could see Pagan or Victorino in CF or even an Upton. Martin to 3rd is the no-brainer. Sign Ross ASAP. I wouldn’t go too high for Bourn, MAYBE 85-90m tops. Willingham could be worth a reasonably priced shot.

Heisenberg

November 2nd, 2012
9:58 am

I remember when Bill Walsh first took over the 49ers when they were the worst team in the NFL. He told his team that he sensed some of them were thinking they could hook up with other teams if they got cut. He then reminded them that SF is the worst team in the NFL. If you are not good enough to play for the worst team in the league, what makes you think you are good enough to play for anyone else.

So somehow the worst team in MLB has a player that is not worthy to be protected on their roster and the Braves think he can help them? Did Greg Norton not return their calls?

Bobo is Not the Problem

November 2nd, 2012
9:59 am

Woo Hoo!!! Jordan Shafer!!! World Series time!!! Another blockbuster move by the Braves!!!

Maybe he can give us as much production as McLouth!!!

Bobo is Not the Problem

November 2nd, 2012
9:59 am

Woo Hoo!!! Jordan Shafer!!! World Series time!!! Another blockbuster move by the Braves!!!

Maybe he can give us as much production as McLouth!!!

georgeo

November 2nd, 2012
9:59 am

The Frank Wren led Braves have made some of the dumbest moves in MLB history. Adding Jordan Schaefer to the roster confirms it. The fan base couldn’t stand Schaefer the first time and now this under performer is back?

His next move will be to resign McClouth

Bobo is Not the Problem

November 2nd, 2012
10:06 am

The best thing about the 2013 Braves is that they won’t be in the ugly shadow of that classless redneck thug, Chipper Jones, who famously bashed the fans in a February 2011 AJC article, after being called out for being lazy by fans and former teammates like Brian Jordan.

Chipper singlehandedly blew the wild card playoff game against the Cardinals, and had a series of mind-blowing choke jobs throughout his career, all while being hailed as one of the greatest 3B ever. In fact, he was a lazy prima donna bum who didn’t give a crap about defense or hustle.

Goodbye, good riddance, and I can’t wait to see a Braves team without this thug on it.

David O'Brien

November 2nd, 2012
10:09 am

Bobo, hilarious comment at 10:06 a.m.

Wait, you did mean for it to be hilarious, right?

bill

November 2nd, 2012
10:11 am

The Schafer thing is as inconseqential as the guy who was traded for a player to be named later and then returned to the original team as the player to be named later. Schafer will not help us win a pennant or world series. Once again the Braves need guys who can get the hit in the big game or pitch a shutout in the same situation and instead we dance around with Jordan Schafer and his ilk. I do hope this means Hinske is history.

David O'Brien

November 2nd, 2012
10:11 am

The Frank Wren led Braves have made some of the dumbest moves in MLB history. Adding Jordan Schaefer to the roster confirms it. — georgeo

With all due respect, the only thing that’s confirmed — by your comment — is you don’t quite understand the minimal cost and no-risk nature of a move like this, meant to provide potential bench depth and having no effect on the budget as the team prepares to address its main needs this winter.

RT (Riverdale)

November 2nd, 2012
10:21 am

Way to go Braves, Schafer is a loser just like Uggla and Fredi!!!!!!!!!

Reality Check

November 2nd, 2012
10:24 am

Chipper retired. Bourn likely gone.

We bring back broken down McCann who won’t be playing until May, if at all.

Jordan Schafer, who hit .211 and couldnt stick with the minor league Astros, returns as “insurance”, at a “minimal cost” of course. There are reasons this clown came at a minimal cost.

I feel for the Braves’ starting pitching and the lack of run support they get. With Uggla (.226), McCann (.230) and Schafer (.211) at the back of the lineup, this team is looking
at 3rd place at best in 2013.

Frank Wren needs to resign.

Braves' Nation

November 2nd, 2012
10:27 am

Constanza and Reed Johnson will likely lose their roster spots due to Schafer.

Schafer must have photos of Wren in the shower.

benchwarmer

November 2nd, 2012
10:28 am

Hamilton? NOOOO! Want a guy who has practically been run off by his last team? One of the biggest head cases of all time! Again NOOOO!

David O'Brien

November 2nd, 2012
10:29 am

Chipper retired. Bourn likely gone.

We bring back broken down McCann who won’t be playing until May, if at all.

Jordan Schafer, who hit .211 and couldnt stick with the minor league Astros, returns as “insurance”, at a “minimal cost” of course. There are reasons this clown came at a minimal cost.

I feel for the Braves’ starting pitching and the lack of run support they get. With Uggla (.226), McCann (.230) and Schafer (.211) at the back of the lineup, this team is looking
at 3rd place at best in 2013. — Reality Check

Awesome. We barely turned the page to November and already we have a leader in the doom-and-gloom brigade. Congrats, sir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USHHQRodF88

benchwarmer

November 2nd, 2012
10:32 am

Reed Johnson will never be displaced by Shaeffer. The guy are on two seperate levels.

reckingball

November 2nd, 2012
10:32 am

Why are all of these “MLB experts” geting so upset about the Braves claiming Schaffer off of waivers?
It is a very inexpensive look-see, at a player that might possibly have a break-through, in his MLB career.
If he doesn’t, he will be cut loose, no big deal.

Here is the reason why they are all clamoring, THEY JUST LOVE TO COMPLAIN AND BAD MOUTH the Braves.
IF all of these complainers would use their brains, they would realize that the Braves have one of the best teams and organizations in MLB.

stupid gm

November 2nd, 2012
10:33 am

It don’t matter the cost (even if free) who wants the bum on the team..if thats the best Braves can do for bench help Lord Bless them..Last I heard Braves were not on Food Stamps although they could get them.

Bayou Brave

November 2nd, 2012
10:34 am

Sounds like a good, low risk, 4th outfielder to me.

Thanks for the update, DOB!

Delray Brave

November 2nd, 2012
10:37 am

Did anyone else see where MSN had Josh Hamilton signing this offseason? Talk about coming out of left field…

reckingball

November 2nd, 2012
10:38 am

Sorry, I meant to say “IF all of these compainers would(or could) use their brains,”

reckingball

November 2nd, 2012
10:39 am

make that complainers

reckingball

November 2nd, 2012
10:44 am

BTW, to all of you down-in-the-mouthers, the Braves organization is very fortunate to have Frank Wren as their GM.

Braves' Nation

November 2nd, 2012
10:57 am

Derek Lowe. Nate McLouth. Kinchen Kawakami. Dan Uggla. Jordan Schafer. Mark Texeira for Casey Kotchman.

Yeah, the Braves are fortunate to have Frank Wren as GM.

cornjolio

November 2nd, 2012
11:02 am

My favorite Frank Wren give away was Rafael Soriano for Jesse Chavez. Soriano has had almost a 100 saves total the past three seasons.

Jesse Chavez vacuumed my BMW at the car wash yesterday.

Frank Wren is a real genius. Gets a lot of value in return.

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11:13 am

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David O'Brien

November 2nd, 2012
11:14 am

My favorite Frank Wren give away was Rafael Soriano for Jesse Chavez. Soriano has had almost a 100 saves total the past three seasons. — cornjolio

Now THAT was not a good trade. Didn’t understand the Braves’ gamble of offering him arb (I thought there was at least a 50-50 chance of him accepting it, which he did), then didn’t understand the need to trade him immediately, before the Winter Meetings had ended.

Might have been some bad advice from the folks who’d seen Chavez pitch and rec’d him. Then again, he did have a real good arm. Just didn’t have much else in the way of repertoire or ability to get out major league hitters.

georgeo

November 2nd, 2012
11:20 am

he Frank Wren led Braves have made some of the dumbest moves in MLB history. Adding Jordan Schaefer to the roster confirms it. — georgeo

With all due respect, the only thing that’s confirmed — by your comment — is you don’t quite understand the minimal cost and no-risk nature of a move like this, meant to provide potential bench depth and having no effect on the budget as the team prepares to address its main needs this winter.

I certainly agree that it is a no risk low cost move, but history will tell you,kind sir, that there will also be no reward. I would rather have a hustling,down and dirty journeyman minor leaguer getting his first chance then a proven flop like Schaefer.

monty

November 2nd, 2012
11:30 am

Not saying Schafer is in their league, talent wise, but ask JHey and BMAC how injuries to wrist and shoulders greatly affect your abilities.

jim

November 2nd, 2012
11:35 am

The Giants won the WS because they supplemented their strong pitching and middle of the order bats (Posey and Panda) with the likes of Scutaro, Pagan, Blanco, and Crawford — plus defenders and hitters willing to work the count, lay down a bunt, and put the ball in play when needed.

Of the big FA signings last winter, only Fielder paid immediate dividends and that contract could go south in a few years as the years and pounds accumulate whiule the dollars keep rolling out.
Pujols has had his best years as a Cardinal and he could not bring a ennant to the Angels.
The Marlins addition of Reyes, Bell, and Buehrle led only to a last place battle with the Mets and another fire sale.
The Yankees got swept out of the playoffs and now have to deal with more years of contracts with ARod, Tex, and CC.
The Red Sox loaded up with Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez in 2011 and unloaded them to the Dodgers along with Josh Beckett in 2012. With this bonanza in hand, the Dodgers sunk below the horizon in their quest for the playoffs.
For every FA winner like Greg Maddux, there are many more losers like Jason Bay, Dice K, and Derek Lowe. The free agent market is the place where you gamble on overpaying for an immediate success while taking on a long term liability (like the Lowe contract or worse).

David O'Brien

November 2nd, 2012
11:48 am

Great post at 11:35 a.m, Jim.

jj

November 2nd, 2012
11:48 am

Monty..drugs not the wrist…

The Truth....

November 2nd, 2012
11:53 am

haha….Here we go again shopping at the flea market for players…Where has that got ya Frank? No where….Just like signing Diaz last year! haha..crAzy! You just can’t make this stuff up….

yogi

November 2nd, 2012
12:06 pm

adding Jordan Schafer is subtraction by addition. A another damn drug addict

cornjolio

November 2nd, 2012
12:30 pm

“Mr. Wren, my advice to you is to try and find someone dumber than you are and dump Uggly on to them. It won’t be easy.” – Jerry

Jerry, that was priceless !

Braves' Nation

November 2nd, 2012
12:35 pm

Lets package Uggla, Schafer, Hanson, Fredi & Frank to the Cuban National team, for a year’s supply of cigars.

59bulldawg

November 2nd, 2012
12:38 pm

I like the move. I like the kid! And if he ever gets his act together Wren will look like a genius and all you naysayers will be first in line for his autograph. If he never pans out then we haven’t exactly broke the bank to get him. This deal has a lot more potential for good than bad.

Mark (another one)

November 2nd, 2012
12:47 pm

Wouldn’t it be funny if Schafer plays well in spring training and Wren trades him again for another starter? Seriously, what’s the risk of bringing him in, effectively on a tryout? Our current outfield is Heyward, a free agent (Bourn) and an opening. Our current reserves are Constanza and Schafer. We need to figure out LF and CF but Wren has time. If he can build a better bench depth than Schafer, it’s still nothing wasted when he’s released.

Schafer has the potential to be that late inning defensive replacement when one is needed. He can run and his hitting has been all over the map. Remember when Cox used to replace Klesko in LF when we had a late inning lead?

Wren, THE MORON

November 2nd, 2012
12:49 pm

NO DOUBT, a no brainer. WASTED, roster, spot.

Powder Blue

November 2nd, 2012
1:02 pm

Hooray! Our outfield problems are solved!

Dan Uggla's Swing

November 2nd, 2012
1:03 pm

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Heisenberg

November 2nd, 2012
1:04 pm

If they brought him back on a minor league deal that would one thing. But he is taking a spot on the 40 man roster which creates 2 problems:
1) Another promising prospect in Braves organization will not be protected from rule 5 draft.
2) How many times have we heard the old “there is not room on the 40 man roster” to add __________

Felix

November 2nd, 2012
1:06 pm

Just like Wren to go out and get another 220 hitter. That’ll really help this anemic offense.

Great! Jsut great!

Felix

November 2nd, 2012
1:07 pm

I’m with Braves’ Nation.

Braves' Nation

November 2nd, 2012
1:09 pm

teams were just chomping at the bit to acquire the services of a .211 hitter

Hey Frank; the blue light is flashing !

Gregor Blanco

November 2nd, 2012
1:10 pm

I could still be a Brave.

On the other hand I’ll be enjoying my World Series ring !

Dan Uggla's Swing

November 2nd, 2012
1:10 pm

I was always a big fan of the kid, and hated he didn’t produce at this level. He had a lot of potential and still does if he ever learns to hit. Has good speed and defense, maybe with our “Dynamic Duo” hitting coaches (would love to see CJones make them a “triple threat”) he can turn it around and be a viable option. Some idiot is going to pay Bourn a ton of money and in the past two years he hasn’t proven offensively he is a big money player. I like Bourn a lot, great lead off hitter, but has not produced consistently in the 2nd half like we need. I would love to see the Braves go after some contact hitters, and forget their love with the 3 run homer. The Braves always built a team to win the division, but those ingredients dont translate well in the playoffs, just ask the Tigers.

Snowball's Chance

November 2nd, 2012
1:12 pm

Give Frank Wren some credit for the Bourn trade. Shafer was the main piece he threw in.

Kujohn

November 2nd, 2012
1:36 pm

Bringing Schafer back is a good move Has potential cost us nothing We go after a big name Hamilton or J upton Then the 3rd outfield spot will b up for grabs Schafer. Costanza. Gattis Or if Francisco loses weight an looks good prado back to outfield I am pulling for schafer Think our hitting coaches can make a diff

wheelz007

November 2nd, 2012
1:37 pm

In my humble opinion, we need 2 good players. Not necessarily super-stars. We don’t need a Josh Hamilton and his $20+ million dollar salary. Although his big bat in the middle of our line-up would look great on paper.

Our team is already good: Heyward, Prado, Freeman, Uggla, MAC and the pitching staff. Remember, some of these younger players haven’t reached their primes yet.

Schafer is going to be (a) bench depth, (b) a possible trade piece later, and at least (c) a low-cost, plan D/E/F for Centerfield.

Jim

November 2nd, 2012
1:37 pm

I could care less what people on this blog think. This is a good move by Wren. Schafer has the potential to be a starting center fielder and lead off man for a major league team. But, it is getting to be put up or shut up time for him. He should know that he will not have many more chances to reach his potential in the majors. Maybe that will bring out the best in him. If not, what have the Braves really lost out of the deal? It would not be a monumental mistake like giving Bourn $100 million. I really do not understand the anger over this move.

jmart1951

November 2nd, 2012
1:46 pm

be an x-brave for the second time.SeaTrout

November 2nd, 2012
1:02 am
Wren took a good low cost move for the Braves. This move could have alot of upside. Schafer will go to work immediately with our two highly regarded hitting coaches. Spring training games will determine if Schafer can implement what he has learned. If he doesn’t hit in spring training….he will be sent packing
I believe that Sea Trout has it right. Heyward started with his on batting instructor then moved to the two new Braves instructors. He began his journey to discover his 2010 swing in early Jan, 2112 and was for the most part successful.
Jan 1, 2013 Uggla and Schafer should begin reconstructing their swings with the Braves two batting instructors. Both need to cut down on their swings, learn to cover the plate and make a lot more contact than they are presently making. If Uggla could learn to cover the outside half of the plate and make contact he would have a very successful 2013.
If Schafer could cut down his swing and become a contact hitter he would raise his BA and OBP significantly. Schafer has tried to make it his way and it has not worked. If he is willing to listen to a different approach (contact hitter) he could start a lengthy and successful career.

Halbert

November 2nd, 2012
1:47 pm

Last time I saw Schaefer in a Braves uniform, he was having trouble catching up to 90mph fastballs down the middle. Look, I’m all for giving guys chances, but unless he found some bat speed he’s never going to be the guy the Braves were hoping for. He may be a flake, but I like the kid and he plays hard, but the last thing Schaefer or the Braves need is for him to have another stellar spring, make the team, then disappear after a couple of months and a .210 average.

Kujohn

November 2nd, 2012
1:52 pm

I agree w Jim Bourne is gone and should be if he wants more than 4 yr 12 mill. Like i said the braves are gonna go all out on Hamilton I said it last nite. Msn foxsports predicts he comes to Atl Chipper is gone an they need 1 super star to market around Hamilton Braves big splash to excite the fan base

Sugar Bear Blanks

November 2nd, 2012
1:52 pm

“maybe with our “Dynamic Duo” hitting coaches (would love to see CJones make them a “triple threat”) he can turn it around and be a viable option”

Are these the same hitting coaches that have worked with Dan Uggla?

Star Gazer

November 2nd, 2012
1:54 pm

ah, dreamers abound on this blog …

jmart1951

November 2nd, 2012
1:59 pm

Schafer has skills but has tried to be a player that he is not capable of being (home run hitter). What he is very capable of becoming is a contact hitter with plenty of speed and a base stealer. If he does that he would be a low cost player that is very disruptive to the teams we play. Given his outfield skills and his strong arm he could be a very good 4 tool player. He has to forget the home runs and concentrate on making the defense anxious and play in when he is at the plate. By cutting down on his swing he can use his hand / eye coordination to lift his batting average and help his team mates see more fast balls when he is on base. If Schafer is willing to reinvent himself, with the help of the Braves two hitting instructors, we could see Schafer in the outfield for a long time to come.

Kujohn

November 2nd, 2012
2:04 pm

Did you mean the same hitting coaches that turned Heyward around And had us top in the NL for runs scored

jmart1951

November 2nd, 2012
2:07 pm

Uggla needs off season help in reinventing himself as a hitter as well. Until Uggla decides to have total plate coverage, instead of just the inside half, he is going to continue to struggle. Uggla is so strong that just increasing his contact would increase his BA and OBP. He will always be able to turn on an inner half pitch (mistake) by the pitcher. He would see more inner half pitches if he was driving outer half pitches into the right / center gap. The busiest coaches this off season are going to be the Braves hitting instructors. They have the chance to take the players on the roster and turn this team into a very potent offence. Throw Francisco into the reinvent category as well. If they can teach him to hit left handers he would share the same characteristics of Sandoval.

Nativebird

November 2nd, 2012
2:08 pm

No harm no foul. Broken wrist changed this kids career forever.

Acid Queen

November 2nd, 2012
2:11 pm

He was on the juice; now he’s mortal

jmart1951

November 2nd, 2012
2:13 pm

Kujohn, I believe that the Braves hitting instructors are very good. What the team needs is more consistency in scoring runs. That takes making every plate appearance count, working the pitch count and making contact rather than striking out. Every player is going to go through slumps during the season but the length of the slumps can be lessened if some of the Braves players would change their approach. In terms of runs scored the Braves are bi-polar.

jmart1951

November 2nd, 2012
2:18 pm

Braves players with the right hitting approach:
Prado
Simmons
Heyward
Chipper (2012) doesn’t count now

Almost there:
Freeman
McCann when healthy

Those that need work:
Uggla
Schafer
Fransico

jmart1951

November 2nd, 2012
2:25 pm

If the Braves could successfully change the hitting approaches of Uggla, Schafer and Francisco (and this will sound crazy) they do not need additional help.
Fransisco has a huge upside
Schafer has a huge upside
Uggla is a proven veteran that has lost his way. Plate coverage and contact bring him back to the player he once was.
I believe that Uggla will return to form in 2013 (if he works hard during the off season
I believe that Schafer too will be a big surprise if he successfully changes his hitting approach (Would immediately be one of the top 4 center fielders in the National league)
I am not as certain that Fransisco has the inner make up to make the changes necessary for him to be a complete hitter. he does have tons of potential and is worth an offseason effort to help his appraoch with left handers.

jim

November 2nd, 2012
2:44 pm

Note — the person who posted as Jim at 1:37 was not me.

My only take on Schafer would be from the time he started as the regular CF and lead off hitter between the time he was recalled in 2011 and inserted as the regular CF until the injury and subsequent trade after the 18 inning game with Pittsburgh. I think that during this period he made a much more significant contribution to the team’s success than he was given credit for on the blog. The ultimate value of a lead off hitter is measured by runs scored. During this period of time Schafer’s runs scored/ games played average was better than Bourn’s in the year and 2 months during which he has been a Brave, albeit a very limited sample size. Schafer was succesful on 17 of 20 SB attempts during this span — a rate of attempts and success that exceeds that of Bourn during his time in Atlanta. He is a plus defender with a strong arm and he brought an aggressive attitude of which the Braves could use a bit more. As Bourn moves to the other side of 30 his base-stealing numbers will continue to diminish. If Schafer gives us some of the same intensity, defense, and offensive numbers as Blanco gave the Giants, this will not be a bad pick up at all.

Atl braves fan since inception

November 2nd, 2012
2:53 pm

WHY!!!!!@

Train Wreck Bystander

November 2nd, 2012
3:27 pm

@ Jim 1:37 pm

I wouldn’t say the fans are angry (other than the usual trolls).

But come on now… the Hot Stove Season is upon us, and right out of the chute, we get this.
If this story had been a footnote to a more interesting deal, it wouldn’t have garnered nearly the angst it has.

But instead we have the splashy headline “Braves reacquire Jordan Schafer” w/ accompanying picture.

You expected the fans to respond with confetti, roses and fanfare?

TomTomClub

November 2nd, 2012
3:36 pm

Absolutely dumb and stupid beyond belief!! Date the tramp, dump the tramp and then start dating her again hoping things will be different this time around! Repeating the process will usually give you the same results!! A fool will lose tomorrow reaching back for yesterday. Hears to you, FRANK WREN.

If If If

November 2nd, 2012
4:05 pm

If this guy can’t make it with the WORST team in MLB gthen I sure he can make it with the Braves. Why in the world would they waste the energy with this idiot? Write this down,,,, the Braves will be hot after Josh Willingham when he is no more than Eric Henske. The Braves are going to save about 30 mil next year and they will not want to spend anything to make the team better. Liberty Media is a joke.

If If If

November 2nd, 2012
4:07 pm

nativebird:

What changed his career is when he got caught with the JUICE in his system. Just like A rod and all the other Juicers. That is so strange how the Home Run totals have dropped the last few years. Why is that? Hmmmm.

Sam

November 2nd, 2012
4:09 pm

Trading for Justin Upton and signing BJ is sounding better and better.

Carl Farvman

November 2nd, 2012
4:29 pm

“I could care less what people on this blog think. This is a good move by Wren.”

Jim, I have no clue if this will be a benefit or not, but I do know that about 30 clubs didn’t want him.

Scott

November 2nd, 2012
4:33 pm

A waste of a roster move on Shafer, very un-Braves like.

Scott

November 2nd, 2012
4:33 pm

A waste of a roster move on Shafer, very un-Braves like.

Scott

November 2nd, 2012
4:33 pm

A waste of a roster move on Shafer, very un-Braves like.

Scott

November 2nd, 2012
4:33 pm

A waste of a roster move on Shafer, very un-Braves like.

Rick C

November 2nd, 2012
4:42 pm

If If If, he never got caught with anything. He was suspected of using PEDs, but never had a positive test. Also I’m not sure what you’re talking about with his HR totals dropping. He’s never hit more than 4 in any season, and that was this year. He had 2 in 50 G in 2009, and 2 in 82 G in 2011.

ChipperisGod

November 2nd, 2012
5:05 pm

This move befuddles me. Resign Reed Johnson, keep Constanza to be your back up outfielders. And Constanza for pinch running purposes. Then you have David Ross as your back up catcher, Francisco at third (on bench), and Janish as a back up 2B, SS, 3B. That’s five bench players. And good bench players at that, that are useful and aren’t a waste of a roster spot. Schafer isn’t anywhere close to being the player that any of these guys are and doesn’t add any of this supposed “depth”.

There is no need for Schafer unless you lose Johnson, and even if you do, I’d rather see Evan Gattis out there than Schafer.

Darryl Blackberry

November 2nd, 2012
5:14 pm

If If If:

For those who’ve actually followed the Schafer saga, it seems pretty obvious he was covering for someone else. Jordan was never caught with PEDs in his system, but he had possession of a certain some’n some’n, which was good enough to get him suspended. Evidence of young stupidity, perhaps, but nothing more than that.

Also: is it just me, or are the worst trolls on here the ones who still think the Braves are playing in the Nineties on Ted Turner’s dime? Times have changed. Besides, it’s not like Frank Wren is making minor moves like this — instead of, say, re-signing Bourn — ’cause he gets to keep the extra unspent money for himself or anything.

yogi

November 2nd, 2012
5:22 pm

lost another roster spot to this bum. how many young players will this druggie influence. at least Milky Carberra can hit

Mike McDonald

November 2nd, 2012
6:06 pm

Now that there seems to be a modicum of support for Schafer, perhaps Frenchy will appear stage left. Another multi-tool, never-say-die guy who might just thrive on home cookin’ and good batting coaching. Might just add up to two pairs of dynamic duos in 2013. Heyward/Freeman & McCann/Francoeur. Alttle help from Chipper and Brian’s dad might just be the medicine the Cobb County kids need.

JayBee

November 2nd, 2012
6:52 pm

The Angels did not tender a qualifying offer to Torii Hunter, so he could be an affordable option for LF. He had definitely lost some speed, but still hit .313 this year with 16 HRs and 92 RBI. Don’t know if he can be lured away from the West Coast, but he is a solid right-handed bat who is supposedly a good guy in the clubhouse.

longtimefan

November 2nd, 2012
7:36 pm

The truth is none of you know what Frank Wren’s plans are. The move costs us nothing. FW could acquire Verlander and Trout for a bag of balls and many of you would find the negative in it. It is the nature of many on this blog to constantly criticize his every move. Do you remember who he gave up to get Bourn? A year and a half service for Bourn and we will likely receive a first round equivalent draft pick if we don’t sign him. Sounds like some pretty savvy horse trading to me. and for those that continually like to point out FWs misses( as if all other GMs bat 1.000 on FA and trade acquisitions), lets give him credit for the young talent assembled on this team during his watch.

mpimentel

November 2nd, 2012
8:40 pm

Interesting game tonigth in DOM REP winter league, licey (teheran satrting ,delgado in the bullpen) against east’s bulls starting horacio ramirez ( a former brave) and constanza cf…btw constanza hit a rocket against teheral in the 1st…. You can follow the game on: http://www.lidom.com or http://www.licey.com

Nerdville

November 2nd, 2012
8:49 pm

schafer?! jordan schafer??!! wtf is going on in atlanta? it is only november and that numbskull wren is already bottom fishing again.

G

November 2nd, 2012
9:46 pm

Frank Wren strikes again with another below mediocre move that makes no sense.

bostonbravo

November 2nd, 2012
10:19 pm

At least now blog canhave more misspells….Schaefer & Medlin.

Jordan Schafer

November 2nd, 2012
11:38 pm

I am please to be back on the Atlanta Braves, I know I have allot of critics since I was dealt to the Houston Astros, but I can promise all of you, I will play my tail off and bring this team a championship in 2013!

Best wishes,

Jordan Schafer
#1 Atlanta Braves Outfielder

Kujohn

November 2nd, 2012
11:58 pm

Not sure if that’s Jordan or not But I’m sure he has taken a look at this blog I think he will be the braves center fielder Was pissed when they traded him I predict he will have a year similar to Bournes past season Shafer. Prado. Heyward ( Hamilton ) freeman uggla Mac Simmons

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