Heyward wins Braves’ first Gold Glove since ‘07

For the first time in five years, gold has returned to the Braves outfield.

Jason Heyward won the Gold Glove Award for National League right fielders on Tuesday, the first Brave to win a Gold Glove since outfielders Andruw Jones and Jeff Francoeur won in 2007.

Braves first baseman Freddie Freeman and the entire Atlanta starting outfield were nominated for Gold Gloves this year, with Martin Prado among the finalists in left field and Michael Bourn in center. Colorado’s Carlos Gonzalez won in left and Pittsburgh’s Andruw McCutchen in center, denying Bourn what would’ve been his third Gold Glove in four years.

Nationals first baseman Adam LaRoche, a former Brave, beat out Freeman and Cincinnati’s Joey Votto.

The win by Heyward, 23, was no surprise. He already won the Fielding Bible Award as the majors’ best right fielder for 2012. That award was based solely on statistical analysis, while the Gold Glove awards are determined in voting by major league managers and coaches.

“He’s the best I’ve ever seen in right field going back on a baseball,” Braves veteran backup catcher David Ross said of Heyward. “It may be because of his height and speed combined. He can really go back. And it allows him to play a shallow right field, which I like as a catcher because I want my pitcher to be rewarded and not give up so many hits on bloopers and broken bats.”

Heyward is 6 feet 5 and one of the fastest players on the team. Braves third-base coach Brian Snitker said late in the season that Heyward played so well this season and was so clearly deserving of the award, that Snitker would boycott the voting in the future if Heyward didn’t win.

In his third major league season, he won the Gold Glove over Cincinnati’s Jay Bruce and the Dodgers’ Andre Ethier.

Heyward’s 11 outfield assists tied San Francisco’s Hunter Pence for the NL lead among right fielders, and Heyward made only five errors for the third-best fielding percentage among NL right fielders while making far more plays than any of the other leaders in the category.

The Reds led the majors with six Gold Glove finalists, while the Braves were second in the NL with four. Cardinals catcher Yadier Molina won his fifth consecutive Gold Glove.

Baltimore catcher Matt Wieters, a former Georgia Tech star, won his second consecutive American League Gold Glove, and former Braves first baseman Mark Teixeira won his fifth.

In a surprise decision, Baltimore’s Adam Jones beat out Angels rookie sensation Mike Trout for the AL Gold Glove in center field.

109 comments Add your comment

Mark

October 30th, 2012
10:34 pm

Congrats JHEY

David from Athens, AL

October 30th, 2012
10:36 pm

Thanks DOB. Very happy for Jason!

Spider29

October 30th, 2012
10:46 pm

Way to go, Jason! Well deserved.

Interested Bystander

October 30th, 2012
10:50 pm

Jason, I am so very proud of you man

RaleighDawg

October 30th, 2012
11:02 pm

Congrats Jason !

Kind of surprised that Chipper didn’t win a GG at third…

Peter

October 30th, 2012
11:09 pm

Fantastic for Jason Hayward…. I hope he continues to build on his success !

Brave New World

October 30th, 2012
11:22 pm

Heyward, Jason Heyward, The Man With The Golden Glove. Congrats J-Hey! The first of many.

Teddy B

October 30th, 2012
11:26 pm

Glad he won it, the guy is amazing. He hits well, fields well, does it all better than most. Keep him a Brave for a long time.

Blob Horner

October 30th, 2012
11:29 pm

I heard that Dan Uggla was a shoe in for the “Most Likely to Improve” award.

that's awesome

October 30th, 2012
11:36 pm

That’s great stuff blob! Way to go Heyward!

ChipperisGod

October 30th, 2012
11:49 pm

Awesome work, J-Hey! Let’s get you a ring next year! Well deserved!

ylojkt

October 30th, 2012
11:53 pm

Texeira is also a former Georgia Tech star. Congrats to Tex, Weiters, and Heyward, they all had great seasons.

jj

October 31st, 2012
12:03 am

Great job J_HEY..congrats on a great year GG and looking for many more.

Powder Blue

October 31st, 2012
12:25 am

Congrats to J-Hey. Proud of & happy for him.

bird

October 31st, 2012
12:48 am

Congrats J-Hey!

Joe Dirte

October 31st, 2012
2:52 am

Congrats J-Hey, I thought Freeman would win but I do like that a good guy like LaRoache won. Hey DOB, What do you think the chances a guy with clutch playoff experience like Kevin Youkilis signs with the Braves. Seems like a Good fit and he will be probably cheaper than most think.

JEB

October 31st, 2012
4:00 am

Not bad for a ole Henry County boy !!!!! Congrats !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RaySkee

October 31st, 2012
6:49 am

Congrats to you Heyward and may u have many more!!!

urban redneck

October 31st, 2012
7:05 am

what happened to all the people who were calling for his head this time last year?

THE ATLER

October 31st, 2012
7:22 am

Congrats Heyward, you deserve it. J-Hey sounds so freakin dumb. Can people stop calling him that?

Johnny Vaught

October 31st, 2012
7:45 am

Maybe the rest of the Braves should develop Heyward’s work ethic. My son works at TF and said JH was there just about every day in the off season last winter working out. Maybe the rest of the team should pick up something from that!

Joey

October 31st, 2012
7:49 am

Congrats Jason Heyward, on the awards and the great season. Looking forward to many more – in Atlanta!

Charlie says

October 31st, 2012
8:00 am

Hey Blob, You misread. Uggla is shoe-in for “Least Likely to Improve”…..

Chuck from Waycross

October 31st, 2012
8:17 am

Heyward over Bruce?? he may have won it, didn’t deserve it

Yuuup

October 31st, 2012
8:27 am

Hey Snitker, boycott the Freeman snub. LaRoche is a good defensive 1st basemen, but Freeman is better. Hard to find another 1st basemen in the entire game that is as sound defensively as Freddie Freeman. What a joke these managers and coaches are.

Yuuup

October 31st, 2012
8:28 am

Oh yeah, congrats J-Hey, well deserving.

Carl Farvman

October 31st, 2012
8:31 am

“What a joke these managers and coaches are.” I suppose Freeman is good defensively, but a lot of 1 baggers are solid. I just didn’t see that he was a definite standout from others.

Ben

October 31st, 2012
8:44 am

Congrats to Jason, but I think Bourne got jobbed because McCutchen makes more flashy plays. Michael covered a ton of ground relatively silently, which didn’t catch the eye. Sort of the opposite for Freddie. LaRoche was solid and had better numbers without as many spectacular plays. Just glad Votto didn’t get it again.

Duane Greene

October 31st, 2012
8:49 am

To all the people saying “congrats to Jason” all I can say is….. Really? Do you really think he is going to read these comments? A professional athlete? I don’t think so. So why are you pretending. It’s so silly to me. I would understand if you knew him personally but I am guessing that you do not, or else you would be at his house or on the phone with him, rather than on a sports blog for the local newspaper. You fools. People can be so pathetic! I cannot believe the society we live in.

gator32301

October 31st, 2012
9:01 am

Yuuup, the gold gloves can be a joke, but certainly not for a “snub” of freeman. while certainly technically sound, he has limited range compared to other first baseman – a sentiment echoed by both scouts and statistic analysis.

PEPr

October 31st, 2012
9:12 am

I agree with “The Atler”. He should be called “Mr. Heyward”!

TennesseePaul

October 31st, 2012
9:14 am

Congratulations Heyward!

Quack Quack

October 31st, 2012
9:32 am

@Duane Green…..

You mean a society with people like you?

Congratulations Jason Heyward!!

I hope you stay a Brave for ever……Right to the Hall of Fame.

Sharon Joyce- Mill

October 31st, 2012
9:34 am

YOU GO Nephew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WELL DESERVED!!!!! DNA is something else. CONGRATS!!!!!

Pathetic Pretender (NOT)

October 31st, 2012
9:36 am

Congratulations, Jason! Solid season by a budding star, well-deserved GG for a player truly worthy of the price of admission.

I love the core of young Braves, Heyward, Freeman, Simmons, and the pitchers. Wren, please keep building on this, don’t start buying dinosaurs.

Sam

October 31st, 2012
9:43 am

He should be called “Mr. Every-Other-Year”. If he had contributed anything down the stretch last year, we would have been in the playoffs. Instead the Cardinals get into the playoffs and we don’t.

He has the POTENTIAL to be a 5 tool player, I just don’t think he is there yet. He can’t hit for average and he has not proven his power yet.

Brave New World

October 31st, 2012
9:43 am

urban redneck October 31st, 2012 7:05 am what happened to all the people who were calling for his head this time last year?

UR: They’ve likely moved on to bash someone else.

BravesFanSince80s

October 31st, 2012
9:52 am

don’t START buying dinosaurs? where have you been? Lowe, Anderson, Glaus, Overbay, Norton, Gonzalez, need I go on? Now we’re stuck with Ugly Dan and McCan’t for at least one more year. I would almost guarantee you that this time next year, we’ll still be in the same boat we are now. Run sorry A S S Frank Wren out of town on a rail!

dromio94

October 31st, 2012
9:56 am

Duane Greene, get up on the other side of the nail bed in your troglodyte grotto next time, OK? What do you think blogs are for? Airing your philosophy of life and death? What in the world is wrong with baseball fans voicing their pleasure at an award won by a player on the team they support? Huh? And some of you guys mean to say a “shoo-in”. It’s nothing to do with footwear. Footwork maybe …

BravesFanSince80s

October 31st, 2012
9:57 am

oh, and to the folks saying Freeman has limited range: that stuff is EXTREMELY subjective and I guarantee you that if Freeman weren’t forced to play next to what is probably the worst everyday 2B in MLB (range wise at least), Freeman’s “range’ would look a hellofalot better!

BravesBobblehead44

October 31st, 2012
9:58 am

Go Jay Hey, see ya next year brotha!!

C. Tampa Ironworse

October 31st, 2012
10:02 am

Congrats Duane Green…on being a curmudgeon and a bum. Since you’re not a pro athlete, hopefully you’ll read this.

dromio94

October 31st, 2012
10:06 am

Oh, and BravesFanSince80s, you can’t GUARANTEE anything. And you might think for at least one milli-second on the ethics of making insulting puns on people’s names. As an Atlanta Braves fan since 1966, may I suggest you take your wit and your superior baseball knowledge and lay them to rest in your outhouse.

BravesFanSince80s

October 31st, 2012
10:08 am

dromio94: I can GUARANTEE that you’re an old douche bag, touche!

Rick C

October 31st, 2012
10:10 am

Sam, Heyward has had one bad year, which obviously injuries played a big role in. It’s unfair to call him an every other year player until he has a bad 2013.

BravesFanSince80s, Uggla actually rated 7th in range factor of all qualified MLB 2B this year. His misplays are usually bad throws and not fielding cleanly. I’ve actually been quite surprised by his range during his tenure with the Braves. Seems like he regularly makes impressive plays on bloopers and liners that you would think he’d have no chance of getting to.

BravesFanSince80s

October 31st, 2012
10:11 am

even a blind hog finds an acorn every once in awhile Rick C

BravesFanSince80s

October 31st, 2012
10:17 am

to the otherwise good-folks whom I offended this morning: I wouldn’t have gone on the attack in this case if I weren’t seeing folks once again turning a blind eye to the obvious (ridiculously over-paid and under-performing players) and instead chose to complain about Freddie Freeman’s range? REALLY? After the season we just watched? That’s what you pick? Come on!

Rick C

October 31st, 2012
10:18 am

I’m just going by the stats and what I’ve seen man. Most of his errors are due to bad throws and not cleanly fielding the ball. Obviously if a player just doesn’t get to a ball, it doesn’t affect their fielding percentage or errors, but the stats show that his range is not bad at all and what I’ve seen certainly supports that.

Rick C

October 31st, 2012
10:23 am

Freddie ranked 6th among MLB 1B in RF this season, so his range really isn’t as bad as some are making it out to be either. It’s unfair to blame Uggla though for him not winning the GG. He was tied for last place in errors and fielding percentage with Yonder Alonso. He’s unbelievable at covering throws from the rest of the infield, but his fielding off the bat is not at the same level.

Bud

October 31st, 2012
10:27 am

Congrats to Heyward! And as good a first baseman as Adam LaRoche is (a former Brave), Freeman was robbed!!

Flowery Branch

October 31st, 2012
10:35 am

Congratulations Jason! You earned it and deserved it. Keep up the great work.

FBGuy

October 31st, 2012
10:53 am

Really happy for JH. Much deserved honor for a good guy whose potential seems limitless. He’s a huge asset for the Braves — let’s hope they can keep him for many years.

Wutehvah

October 31st, 2012
11:05 am

Congrats JHAY!! Keep up the hard work!!

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MeaneyMouse

October 31st, 2012
11:07 am

dromio94

October 31st, 2012
11:07 am

BravesFanSince80s, just can’t resist the insults, can you? Never mind, one learns to put up with low-level canine types that pee on your shoes. And snarl. That’s your idea of baseball commentary? And do you mean “touché”? As in fencing? That means you have acknowledged a hit against yourself. Did you know that? Or was it because it rhymes with “douche”? That’s brilliant! Mr. O’brien, we know how trying it must be, trying (you ARE trying, aren’t you?) to run a blog at a certain level of intelligent input about baseball and the Braves. I’m sorry for my marginal remarks, but a whole season of indigestible rant from your faithful followers inevitably comes back up, like bad barbecue.

dromio94

October 31st, 2012
11:13 am

Rick C, thanks for your statistical input. That is what we need here.

reckingball

October 31st, 2012
11:16 am

It is hard to believe that some of these commenters are as old as they claim that they are.

jac

October 31st, 2012
11:31 am

Braves Future looks Good:
-JJ-will be All Star for years to come-get him signed LONG TIME
-Freddie F-same as JJ -outstanding young,both 23 Players
-Simmons-will be same as JJ and FF-23- real Talent-classy Fielder and will be a GREAT HITTER-
-Prado-A BASEBALL PLYER-27-learns every Play/Day-you want this Guy on your roster
-McCann-young and will come back in 2013-Brian disappointed this year but he is a KEEPER
-Kimbrel in same WINNER CATEGORY as JJ,FF and
-Medlin-anoher Maddox-enough said-get him sihned long, long time
-Beachy-will be one of top 10 NL Pitchers for next 20 years or more-in his 20’s
-Minor-as a Big Fan of his,delighted hefound his way-greatiture-in his 20’s
-Lots of young Pitching Talent -sad but Braves must use some or a lot,of them as TRADE BAITfor 3rd B, and CF

Brava

October 31st, 2012
11:33 am

Congratulations to Jason! This was well-deserved.

Rick C

October 31st, 2012
11:36 am

No problem dromio94. I always try and back up my opinions with stats that support them. Most people here just talk out of their ass based on personal feelings.

The Truth

October 31st, 2012
11:41 am

GREAT comments by Rick C. And I’ve played A LOT of baseball and can tell you that Freddie is an elite fielding first baseman, if not the best in the game. He has TONS of intangibles that don’t show up on a stat sheet. His footwork is amazing, he can pick a ball better than most I’ve ever seen, he has great range, etc. He’s really been a treat to watch over the last two years and I can’t wait to see how good he is next year.

Ken Stallings

October 31st, 2012
11:42 am

Great achievement for Heyward!

Still think Freeman should have won at first base. LaRoche is a good fielder, but not as good as Freeman.

While McCutchen is an excellent player, I also think Bourn was a better fielder than he was.

The Truth

October 31st, 2012
11:45 am

As for Uggla, I was very surprised at how well he fields his position. I played second in high school and after and other than some footwork issues (that affect his throwing; Utley has the same problem of not pointing the his front foot in the direction that he wnats to throw), he’s pretty solid. I mean, he doesn’t have range like Jose Lind (maybe one of the best I ever saw), but who does? He also is constantly working on his craft and he is actually a better fielder now than he was with the Marlins three years ago.

Ken Stallings

October 31st, 2012
11:46 am

David,

I think the forum would benefit from the removal of the posts by “bravesfansince80″, especially the ones with the insults.

The Truth

October 31st, 2012
11:51 am

As for Heyward, I’m not surprised at all. He is the real deal. He’s got a gun. Runners know better to try to advance on him and base coaches are foolish to challenge him. He has unbelievable range and can close on a ball and finish a play as good as I’ve ever seen (and I grew up watching Dawson and Murphy and those two guys were HOF quality fielders). He gets a good jump on the ball and has wonderful instincts. My only knock is he plays VERY hard and sometimes does things that will get him hurt, but that’s all part of it, baby! Again, I can’t wait to see how good he’s going to be next year. He and Freeman are two examples of how talented the Braves scouts are. They hit on two Hall of Famers.

The Truth

October 31st, 2012
11:53 am

@Ken Stallings — Agreed. And Freddie is the reason why Atlanta let LaRoche walk a few years ago. They knew that had something special in Freeman and they made the right choice.

Choppinmama

October 31st, 2012
11:55 am

A lot of self-satisfaction for Jason in winning this award. Not a popularity contest, but recognition from folks who are in the game. Nice body of defensive work this season, Jason. Hope I’m at the game where you actually get your mitts on the golden mitt!

Carl Farvman

October 31st, 2012
12:25 pm

I would congratulate Heyward,but since he won’t read it……………………………

bfred

October 31st, 2012
12:36 pm

Bourne takes much better routes to the ball than McCutchen, cutting down on the need for highlight-reel plays, and comes in on the short fly or liner better than anyone in baseball. But hey, maybe this keeps his retail value down come signing time.

BravesFanSince80s

October 31st, 2012
1:16 pm

that hurts Ken, I’ve always agree with your posts and I can assure you, I get every bit as good as I give…

dromio94

October 31st, 2012
1:21 pm

Like your analysis, bfred. Often, highlight-reel plays are made when the ourtfielder MISJUDGES a ball, then has the luck to recover in time to make the play. Remember what the observers at the time said about Dimaggio: he never seemed to hurry, never dove, never lunged, never even seemed to stretch, he was just there. That’s HOF.

tulsabravo

October 31st, 2012
1:36 pm

Congratulations Jason! Great job, and let’s go Bravos next year!

dromio94

October 31st, 2012
1:39 pm

Well, reckingball, some old geezers do just go on and on, extra innings, season after season. Personally, I do remember distinctly sitting way out in CF stand at Fulton County Stadium, with Mr Aaron in RF, Mr Mathews at 3B, Mr Torre behind the plate, and others long gone but I hope not forgotten (Carty, Alou, Menke, Woodward, Mack Jones, Niekro, Cloninger …). Remember Cecil Upshaw? Distant relative of mine. And later, Cepeda, Clete Boyer, Bob Didier, Millan? Good memories. Baseball is about that too. Mighty kind of you to put up with us fossils.

Brooks Robinson

October 31st, 2012
2:57 pm

no Gold Glove for Dan Uggla ? Brian McCann ?

Reality

October 31st, 2012
3:00 pm

With Bourn gone and Chipper retired, watch the RBI opportunities for Heyward, Freeman, etc dwindle

Skeezix

October 31st, 2012
3:48 pm

Wonderful news! Congratulations to Jason!

Nerdville

October 31st, 2012
4:06 pm

jason deserved this award.
…………but when, oh when, is frank wren going to kick uggla’s butt out the door? get rid of this over rated, no hitting bum. don’t want to suffer watching his futility at the plate for one more game. whatever the cost, dump him now. let janish get a shot at second.

Luman Harris

October 31st, 2012
4:30 pm

All you Uggla bashers:
In the worst season of his career, Uggla was still third on the team in RBI, fourth in runs scored, third in on base percentage, first in walks …
And you want to dump that – and the possibility of a bounce-back season – to give Janish a chance?
Sheesh.

Clydesdale

October 31st, 2012
4:43 pm

Nerdville? are you serious? Give Janish a chance? Give a .200 hitter with no power, stolen bases or walks a chance? With Uggla you get 100 runs scored, a chance at 100 runs driven in. On base most games. Wild pitches thrown trying to get him to chase balls in the dirt. A .300 hitter would be better than Uggla but a singles hitter with a low average. Give me Uggs!

Buttermilk Tuesdays

October 31st, 2012
5:09 pm

Congrats to Jason, the dude deserved it.

BravesBanter.com

October 31st, 2012
5:58 pm

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Reality

October 31st, 2012
7:51 pm

“With Uggla you get 100 runs scored, a chance at 100 runs driven in. On base most games. Wild pitches thrown trying to get him to chase balls in the dirt. A .300 hitter would be better than Uggla but a singles hitter with a low average. Give me Uggs!”

Clydesdale, you can have him and Frank Wren !

He SUCKS ! He kills rallies & he’s OVERPAID ! He’s a drain on the payroll !

Ron

October 31st, 2012
8:20 pm

Hayward’s greatest attribute is his coachability. Great rookie season, second year slump, intense coaching and practice and great attitude, and a magnificent third year. Potential realized. The sky’s the limit with his skills and his attitude.

Blob Horner

October 31st, 2012
10:30 pm

I know that it’s unwise to explain your joke, but Dan Uggla for “Most Likely to Improve Award” Implies that he can’t get any worse, at least w/o being demoted to Lynchburg. (it also combines two other generic awards).
The real question for most of us posting hear is, would you really prefer to be this guy, whose making 13 mil per annum, driving a Bentley, hosing Porn Stars, and playing for the Braves. Once you factor in the short life span of a guy whose popped that many roids and been exposed to that may STD’s, I think I’ll just keep driving my Honda and support a nice family.

Bud

November 1st, 2012
12:50 am

Ludwick is now a free agent. Might be a reasonably priced option to play LF.

Dan Uggla

November 1st, 2012
7:05 am

“The real question for most of us posting hear is, would you really prefer to be this guy, whose making 13 mil per annum, driving a Bentley, hosing Porn Stars, and playing for the Braves. ”

Blob Horner, do I sense a little jealousy?

Joe Dirte

November 1st, 2012
8:08 am

I dont care if a player is making 13 mil, driving a Bentley or hosing Porn Stars……None of that matters AT ALL. But all that does matter is performing in clutch situations and making a positive contribution and the last 2 years Uggla hasnt and has regressed.

Braves' Nation

November 1st, 2012
8:41 am

I could tolerate Dan Uggla’s pathetic batting average if there was some power & clutch RBIS. I remember guys like Gorman Thomas & Daver Kingman hitting .220 but they also hit 45 homeruns.

Dan Uggla isn’t even remotely close to doing that.

jim

November 1st, 2012
10:05 am

Uggla had a high (for his average) OBP, but 94 walks to a number 7 hitter do not contribute very much to the offense. if leave the job up to the #8 hitter and the pitcher to get the runs in. He was 4th on the team in HRs this year (fewer than 20), and he did not have 80 RBIs. He was not brought here and paid 13 miillion a year to be league average or slightly better for a second baseman in productivity. He was brought here to be a 30+ HR, 100 RBI per year man at least for the first 3-4 years of his contract. The problem with Uggla is not that he isn’t serviceable as a 2nd baseman, it is that he occupies the best position for playing Prado so that LF and 3B can be upgraded with bigger bats _ that would give more production than the numbers that Uggla produced this year.

DawgDad

November 1st, 2012
10:16 am

The main issue with Uggla is unless you are a shortstop or a catcher you can’t go 0-for-4 months or worse every season. I mean, for FOUR months Uggla produces next to nothing. He’s not paid to draw walks or strike out ahead of the eighth and ninth place hitters, he’s paid to drive in runs and protect left-handed hitters in the lineup. He doesn’t even do that – he has the results-profile of a left-handed hitter. Throw in that he is no better than adequate in the field and you’ve got a $10 million per year albatross.

The sad part of the Braves playoff exit was they were undone by the sloppy fielding of their two highest-paid and most experienced veteran everyday position players, the players who are supposed to lead on the field. One-quarter of the Braves payroll. Hey, it happens, but some disasters are self-inflicted. Infield defense killed them in the 2010 playoffs and again in 2012.

Wren and the Braves need to find some young, athletic emerging prospects, but the Braves are more positioned to buy free agents instead of packaging fading veterans. Unless they stumble across a gem in the system in Spring Training Wren needs to trade pitching prospects for outfield prospects and buy a short-term right-handed cleanup hitter.

Rick C

November 1st, 2012
10:17 am

jim, Uggla was still 4th on the team in runs scored. He actually scored more than Prado.

jim

November 1st, 2012
10:20 am

Here is an idea for a blockbuster trade that both teams would be reluctant to make, but both would consider seriously:
Braves send Minor, Delgado, and Gattis to KC for Myers and Cain.

I would prefer to substitute Teheran for Delgado (or Minor) but don’t think that would be enough for KC. Gattis fits as a power bat DH in the AL and the Royals get 2 potentially number 1-2 pitchers for their roatation. Braves get a young cheap outfield under contract for the next several years and potentially the best in MLB. Myers is a RH bat with developing power and the top rookie entering MLB next year. Cain could be an adequate replacement for Bourn (assuming he signs elsewhere). The Braves rotation next year would be Medlen, Hudson, Maholm, Hanson, and Teheran, but they could use the money coming off the payroll to sign a FA pitcher. It hurts both teams to give up the players changing teams, but the deal could fill needs and help both teams. A package of Uggla and Hanson and a few other of the usual players the blog wants to get rid of will not bring back any decent return unless Wren has some very incriminating evidence to use against another GM — You have to give value to get value.

DawgDad

November 1st, 2012
10:30 am

jim: I like your thinking, but I have a hard time believing KC would make that deal. Never hurts to ask . . .

One other problem is Hanson. I’m not convinced he’s going to recover and rebound to be an effective starter any time soon, and if he does eventually mend it’s not likely he’ll be here.

Rick C

November 1st, 2012
10:36 am

I don’t think there are any realistic trade scenarios where I would agree with giving both Minor and Delgado. With the growing pains we went through with Minor, and him just recently finally getting it, I’d be extremely hesitant to trade him period. And I would not feel comfortable about the rotation next year with him and Delgado gone.

jim

November 1st, 2012
10:39 am

RickC,

The runs scored/RBI numbers this year are hard to read as far as their significance. The lineup never stabilized until the last month or so of the season. Uggla and McCann started out hitting in the middle of the lineup and then moved to the 6-7 spots by mid=season. Chipper started off hitting as low as 6th, but ended up in the cleanup spot be default. The Braves did not have a true #4 hitter and Chipper’s frequent days off made for more instability. Heyward started off hitting 7th and ended up in the #3 hole by the All-Star break. Freeman moved into, then out of the #3 hole after it was proclaimed by the staff that the team had found its #3 hitter for the future. The SS position was occupied by 3 different #8 hitters + occasionally Jack Wilson and only got production when Simmons first arrived. The only stability in the lineup was Bourn and Prado hitting 1-2. The final runs and rbi totals could be skewed by players not hitting in traditional rbi spots for large parts of the season.

Rick C

November 1st, 2012
10:44 am

jim, yeah I know that but it still says a lot that Uggla scored that many runs. He never hit higher than what, fourth or fifth in the lineup? And still managed to score more than Prado, who hit second for basically the whole season aside from a few games.

jim

November 1st, 2012
10:57 am

I hate to give up Minor and Delgado too. I think Delgado will be a frontline pitcher and would never consider trading him for the likes of Wilingham, but the thought of adding Myers is very tempting. I don’t have much faith in Hanson either, but by 2014 Beachy will be back fully recovered and the Braves rotation would project to be Medlen, Beachy, Teheran, and possibly Hudson and Maholm or Graham or a FA signing. A variation on the trade would be Medlen and Gattis for Myers and Cain. The Braves lose their #1 starter but retain more depth in keeping both Minor and Delgado (as well as Teheran) and get a position player for 6 years under control for a pitcher under team control for 3 more years. Pitchers also tend to have more health issues than position players. KC might like the first option better because they get 2 starters that are under control longer. Such a deal improves the 2014 Braves more than the 2013 club, but that seems like our best chance to make a run at the WS. Adding the likes of Willingham, Ludwick, or Youkilis to the present team minus Bourn and Chipper does not seem to me to make us any better in 2013 than we were in 2014.

jim

November 1st, 2012
11:03 am

Rick C,
The bottom line on Uggla is that for better or worse for the next 3 years we’re stuck with him. Let’s hope he has a 30/100 season left in him. (Meant to say in the previous post that it doesn’t make us any better in 2013 than we were in 2012.)

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