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Peter
October 30th, 2012
5:38 pm
I like the Hudson move….McCann well he has been in the PAST a great bat….BUT fat, slow, and iffy defensively behind the plate.
We shall see how it all turns out……. BUT without any additional speed we will end up like last year…..
I am also skeptical about what WREN can do without over paying a player to come here…..to fill the current needs.
Peter
October 30th, 2012
5:44 pm
Bravesfan54.. You mean like the $10 Million we paid for Lowe last year ? Gosh we are good at that….constrained by ownership, yet pay players to leave !
That is the Frank Wren way of building a club !
Brave New World
October 30th, 2012
6:00 pm
BJ Upton is Michael Bourn with power. He strikes out way too much – we do not need this guy.
Riles
October 30th, 2012
6:04 pm
Put together a package for Chase Headley.
ZACK
October 30th, 2012
6:07 pm
the braves upper management does not care to win anymore, wren is a complete total idiot who doesnt care about the product on the field. mccann was one of my favorite braves in recent years but 12 mil for him now is ridiculous, the only good thing is its just one year. if mccann did leave he would probably over pay for another dan uggla type player we will have to sit and watch for years. ive been a braves fan my whole life but this off season is make it break it for me. if dan uggla isnt gone and gonzalez the retard is still the manager im out, why should i care about this crap team if the braves dont care themselves.
the falcons and the hawks have good general managers now still waiting on the braves.
David O'Brien
October 30th, 2012
6:13 pm
Wow, White Sox gave Peavy a 2-year, $29-million deal.
Speedy Gonezalez
October 30th, 2012
6:17 pm
Trade Hanson or Tehran & get an OF, & sign a FA for the other OF spot, move Prado to 3rd, keep Johnson & Constanza as backups, keep Tyler & dump Janish, McCann deserves the year to see where he’s at, if he has a good 2nd half expect the Braves to sign him long term, if not I’d say he’s outta here & time for the young guys to step in
Lil' Barry Bailout
October 30th, 2012
6:17 pm
Great, another year of a non-hitting, no-defense catcher
Reality
October 30th, 2012
6:18 pm
Frank Wren and MONEY are a dangerous combination !
Derek Lowe. Kinchen Kawakami. Dan Uggla. Nate McLouth.
Now he brings back broken down Brian McCann for another season , who won’t even be ready by May, if at all. That money could have been used elsewhere.
Don’t worry Giants, Cardinals & Nationals; there won’t be any threat coming from Atlanta in 2013.
Jimiz
October 30th, 2012
6:20 pm
I can’t believe they are spending 12 million on McCann he won’t be ready till May then he will need atleast a couple weeks to get the rust off. Thats like 50 games before he could be back to himself. I do want to keep him but i wish they would have worked out another contract for him. Like 4 years at 6 million a year and paid him 6 million for next year instead of 12 for 3/4ths of a year. I see alot of poster talking about Uggla maybe i can clear up some of this back and fourth. See the Braves brought him in to hit the long ball not for his average you have to look at his body of work lets just look at last year. Dan’s average was down and he struck out to much thats a given although i think this will improve. But he made all the plays at second he was able to do ok in his RBI total and runs scored was good his walk rate is what made him so hard to bench because his on base % was good. Like i said he is here to hit for power he stays healthy and is a hard worker. So for the money i think if he can get to 30hr 90 walks and hit in the 260s he would be worth the contract.
Bigwheel
October 30th, 2012
6:27 pm
Dont you think it makes too much sense to have Gattis start the year in LF? He could be a back up catcher all year, we could DH or PH Ross more often. Plus Prado could spell LF and Juan at 3b. Just another versatile player, No big deal.
Louie
October 30th, 2012
6:29 pm
Hanson for Ellsbury?? Yeah, the Red Sox are complete idiots, right? While we are at it, let’s trade Eric Hinske for Miguel Cabrera and ask the Tigers to pick up most of Miggy’s contract.
Bigwheel
October 30th, 2012
6:30 pm
DOB, you know Kenny Williams took in to account that insurance will pick up some of that contract , at some point.
Bobby Cerasuolo
October 30th, 2012
6:36 pm
I say trade Hanson Maholm Uggla and McCann to the NY Yankees for Joba Chamberlain Casey MCgehee Francisco Cervelli Brett Gardner and Zoilo Almonte
Bobby Cerasuolo
October 30th, 2012
6:45 pm
Now after Wren makes that trade and sign Swisher as the power bat replacing Uggla heres the lineup for 2013
Gardner LF
Prado 2nd
Freeman 1st
Swisher RF
Heyward CF
Mcgehee 3rd
Cervelli C
Pitching staff should be
Minor
Hudson
Joba
Tehran
Delgado
Beachy when he comes back
JNick
October 30th, 2012
6:47 pm
Why do I even bother to read this blog….same “we need to get rid of Uggla and take that $12 mil and spend it elsewhere” crap…
for the last time…
NO. ONE. WILL. TAKE. UGGLA. AND. HIS. CONTRACT.
Even if we could find a trading partner for him, we’d be on the hook for 99% of it for the next 3 years…WHY…after we just got done paying Lowe, Jurrjens, Kawakami, McLouth, etc to play for teams that are NOT the Atlanta Braves would we screw ourselves again like that. Idiots. I’m incredibly thankful that those of you who keep spewing this rhetoric are not actually Braves management.
JNick
October 30th, 2012
6:50 pm
Bobby, that trade makes zero sense for either team – especially since the Yankees are already on the record saying they are working to get their payroll down to below luxury tax thresholds.
By the way, your “proposed rotation” left out Medlen, our best starter. What’s your proposal for him?
JNick
October 30th, 2012
6:51 pm
Plus, the Yankees have Robinson Cano – where would they play Uggla?
Bob
October 30th, 2012
6:54 pm
If the Braves can trade Uggly, please trade him to an American League team because the only team he can hit consistently is the Braves. That’s why Wren got him in the first place. And why didn’t the Braves renegotiate with McCann for $7M…coming off injury, declining performance, that’s more than he’s worth and twice as much as any other team would pay. How ’bout some common sense, Wren!
John Balint
October 30th, 2012
6:56 pm
I say sign Kevin Youkilis, leave Prado in left andfigure out a way to get a centerfielder. Youkilis is a gamer, clutch hitter, would give the Braves a little spunk that they’ve lacked.
knockahomerx
October 30th, 2012
6:56 pm
McCann’t. Nothing personal just business. Frank, l told you do not write that check. You blew it. Briaint is not worth 12 million. Com’on Freak Wrong, build my Braves into a World Champion. Stop the stupid moves. You better pick it up and make some great outfield signings and/or trades. l am a fan. l want my team to win big. Screw up more and you lose my support.
Jimiz
October 30th, 2012
6:58 pm
I think Hudson deserves to finish as a Brave. Even though he may not always be the ace and at times shows some decline. He also had back problems that have been addressed and his main pitch for outs is as good as anyones in the league. So signing him is a no brainer. I myself doubt that Beachy will make a difference next year i don’t see him back in a starter role till 2014 I hope they can do him like they did Meds. I think Minor is going to be even better he should fit in the 3rd slot with Hudson and Medlen at the front. Mcholm is at best a forth or fifth guy probably fourth next year which leaves the 5th spot. Hanson is pretty good at the start of the year but tales off after his 10th start my guess he will land the 5th spot until it goes south then i look for us to make a move or bring in a prospect to see what they can do. After next year Hanson will be gone and we wont need him. 2014 is the year we return to dominance Hudson probably will retire at the end of 2014. But we should have Medlen, Beachy, Hudsonand Minor as our top four guys.
hebrews11
October 30th, 2012
7:05 pm
Uggla and McCann bounce back next year, imo. Braves will / can challenge for the WS.
Greene Hornet
October 30th, 2012
7:12 pm
I’m not a GM, nor do I play baseball, but I love my Braves. I can’t say exactly who to get to shore up our lineup or what to pay. What I do know is the Braves better find some bats because if we are going to compete, the Nats and Phillies have the pitching to hold us back. I hope our pitching will keep us in the division, but the Phils will be back and I think the Nats have proven they can play with anybody. I don’t care how, but I hope the Braves get some proven bats to help us break through in the division. As we saw, that one game playoff sucks…
Jimiz
October 30th, 2012
7:13 pm
We will miss Chipper alot i dont see any free agent yet that can replace everything Chipper did for us exept be able to give us a full year worth of work. I hope Prado will be brought in to third. That leaves his position and Bourn’s spot in center to fill. Its not out of the question to think they could use Heyward in center but thats probably not going to happen. So we will just have to wait an see what wren comes up with. They have some money and several options to work with next year. A good lead-off guy is hard to come by and that should be a major priority for wren.
Peter
October 30th, 2012
8:04 pm
Guys Boune will NEVER be resigned…….. he is our NEW TEX……. Ellisbury will never come here…..all the have Scott the rip off as the agent.
Do we have speed in the minors ? Is there another Venezuelan ball player out there like Scutaro, the Panda, Blanco, Infante to be had…….. that seems to be a hot bed of talent.
Just Da Facts
October 30th, 2012
8:10 pm
Uggla, playing as a second baseman (not an offensive position), had a very good OBP of .348, hit 19 home runs and tied for the NL lead in walks at 94(!).
Was he great? No. His slugging percentage was pretty low and his OPS+ shows he had a very slightly below league average season. But Uggla was a whole lot better in 2012 than the people who put way, way too much weight in batting average think.
BravesFanSince80s
October 30th, 2012
8:17 pm
yay, another hard to watch season, comin’ up…
me
October 30th, 2012
8:27 pm
Terrible move on McCann. Nice guy, good citizen, but too injury prone for 12 million. They let Bourne walk and there goes what offense they had….
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October 30th, 2012
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ATLcracker
October 30th, 2012
8:33 pm
Do the Braves actually pay McCann out of their pocket when he is on the disabled list? I have two disability policies on myself and the most dangerous thing I do is drive to work. Don’t they have some kind of insurance policies on these guys?
SouthGADawg
October 30th, 2012
8:35 pm
I hope no other team has as many fair weather fans as do the Braves. With Brian McCann we have one of the best catchers in major league baseball, why would any serious fan of a team want to trade such a player just because he got hurt and wanted to play with and for the team this season. I hope some day to see more mature fans for the team. I hope you do a better job with your children and should they get sick please do not throw them overboard.
BravesFanSince80s
October 30th, 2012
8:42 pm
pretty sure BMac is a multi-millionaire MANY times over ALREADY, stop with the loyalty horse S H I T…
hit a single
October 30th, 2012
8:53 pm
We need offense. I don’t know who to get but we need another clutch stick at 3rd or leftfield. Also I watched some timely hitting by teams in the playoffs. The Braves or too hot and cold. They have got to develop some consistency. Go Braves!
hit a single
October 30th, 2012
8:54 pm
When Buster Posey goes to free agency we need to get him but I am afraid the Giants won’t let him get away. But you talk about clutch!
Bob the Blogger
October 30th, 2012
9:01 pm
Good move to keep McCann. His hitting woes were due to injury, but he will hopefully be healthy by May. The Braves biggest problem is hitting, and there aren’t many catchers who compare to Mac when he’s healthy.
rainman34
October 30th, 2012
9:03 pm
Gattis on the year now has 22 bombs in 329 at bats. If this guy can play left at all a combo of him a juan fran would be insane. Big Big time power. Prado would have to bounce back a forth between left and third but man I wouldnt mind trying it. We could then put all our eggs in the Hamilton basket and let him play center for a couple years then move him to left and hope Gattis is ready to catch.
Gene
October 30th, 2012
9:15 pm
Uggla has demonstrated that there is an inverse relationship between bicep size and the ability to hit a baseball. Maybe Uggla should work on hitting in the off season
Hammond
October 30th, 2012
9:52 pm
you guys crack me up keeping uggla is the right thing to do if you look at the free agent list there is only 3 that could be worth signing other than that it’s trash washed up or has beens
be glad for what we have we just need at little more fire we have great players they just need to want it
My Lord why
October 30th, 2012
9:58 pm
Southgadawg..McCann can’t see, eye problem, can’t throw anyone out, has knee problems, shoulder problems, can’t block pitches, can’t block the plate on close plays and last year and half couldn’t hit., can’t run slow as crap and to fat. HELL YES GIVE HIM 12 MILLION. We need a good old boy.
evan
October 30th, 2012
10:07 pm
Whoever is spelling-checking this, is doing a terrible job.
Rowsdower
October 30th, 2012
10:15 pm
New rule, if you don’t know how to spell the player’s names you are not allowed to post here. You’re clearly not a Braves fan if you don’t know that Bourn doesn’t have an E.
Rule #2. If you make asinine trade suggestions, like this is fantasy baseball and you’re trading with your retarded cousin, get lost.
Last rule. If you don’t understand that baseball contracts are guarenteed and you can’t just release someone to save money…take off!
Mitch Cumstein
October 30th, 2012
10:23 pm
Ok, the McCann fans are happy that McCann is brought back.
Now the reality. At minimum, he’s out for the 1st month of the season. That’s 30 games (120 plate appearances). Let’s say that he comes back May 1st. It isnt like he’s going to play every game. The reality is that of the remaining 132 games….he’ll miss at least 20-30 games due to needing days off and the assortment of minor injuries that McCann has been known to prop up (eye vision, shoulder, etc.).
So, at best, we can hope that McCann plays 100 games behind the plate in 2013. At best, we can hope that McCann hits the ball off the cover for those 100 games. At best.
I feel that we can better direct $12 mil in payroll dollars.
And what happens after 2013? If the McCann of old rakes at the plate….the Yankees and Red Sox are going to offer McCann a boat load of money.
The only way I can really understand the Braves picking up McCann’s 2013 team option…would be with the hope that McCann comes back in May and starts hitting the cover off the ball…..with the eye of trading him for a boatload of prospects at the July 13 trade deadline.
That’s a big gamble….because I see no sane reason for re-signing McCann after 2013. Paying $15 mil a year for a catcher who, at best, can only be productive for 110 games a season…..is just too much.
JNick
October 30th, 2012
10:27 pm
Nice post Mitch, totally agree…
JRW7
October 30th, 2012
10:39 pm
Braves should have passed on BMW, too expensive!
JRW7
October 30th, 2012
10:40 pm
Should have been, passed on BM
Roger Podacter
October 30th, 2012
10:55 pm
Wow, I’m amazed at the negative views of Brian McCann. He’s had ONE bad season (due to injury) and most of the Braves fans(?) are ready to throw him under the bus. I hope he comes back, albeit later than the regular season starts, and makes these people eat their words. McCann is not only a good ballplayer, he’s a class act as a person, which is more than I can say about some of these people commenting on his production.
Larry30
October 30th, 2012
11:01 pm
This cements my decision with regard to season tickets. Any team that will make a player who has never been above average at his position defensively and has had declining production offensively the past two seasons the 2nd highest paid player on their payroll is not a team I will support with thousands of dollars on a ticket purchase. With a front office like ours we can expect to see money thrown away. As I’ve said for some time now, our problem is not having too little money to spend on players, our problem is we rarely get our money’s worth. Wen Wren and Schuerholz go, I’ll consider season tickert again. I wonder if bobby would consider coming back as GM.
jj
October 30th, 2012
11:03 pm
Chase Handley just won Gold Glove..his value just increased but I would still Call Padres and try to deal.
Congrad to J-Hey on Winning Glove Award….Well deserved.
jj
October 30th, 2012
11:13 pm
Class act as a person, good in clubhouse don’t win ball games..What you do on the field wins games.
Braves always bitching they don’t have money…then throw 12 million at McCann is a joke unless they plan to trade him. Thats a gamble because he may never be any good again. (to many problems)
They could have used the 12 million to sign J-Hey and Freeman long term. My $.o2 cent worth.
Mitch Cumstein
October 30th, 2012
11:14 pm
Anyone watching the Final Table of the Main Event of the World Series of Poker on ESPN?
Mitch Cumstein
October 30th, 2012
11:28 pm
Roger Podacter……….you”re not looking at the reality that McCann has injury issues that go back 2 seasons. Because of his inability to play another position (as I stated in a previous post…Buster Posey started 29 games at 1st)…..the Braves line-up suffers without his bat in there for 30-40 games.
Like it or not…McCann’s future is in the American League…where the DH option keeps his bat in the line-up on days he’s unable to catch. How hard is that to understand?
marktwain
October 30th, 2012
11:34 pm
Nobody on here is turning on McCann. He is a good man and a dirt player. But he’s not some kid that didn’t get paid for his production. We made the intelligent choice and paid him his money and turned our back on Francouer despite the pain of that situation. Its a business and he knows that. Thank him and tell him his time here is over. We make too many stupid sentimental decisions in this town and we get mediocrity in return.
Beau Bock said it best recently. The Cardinals would never do this. They waived goodbye to the best player in franchise history. Cards still make the playoffs and Albert got his money. This can work in Atlanta if we had a GM with the guts to do it.
NCBravesFan
October 30th, 2012
11:34 pm
Get Danny Ferry to trade Uggla and his ugly contract like he did with Joe Johnson. Think the braves can hire him as their gm?
Larry30
October 31st, 2012
12:02 am
When you have an “executive” running your team instead of a baseball man this is the kind of decision making you get. Anyone who has been watching knew that McCann is a DH, period. He should have been traded two years ago when everyone was singing “he’s the best catcher in baseball.” We are paying almost one third of our payroll to two players, McCann and uggla, who combined had the same number of hits last year as the 37 year old shortstop for the Yankees. Pitiful.
Mitsy
October 31st, 2012
12:07 am
Figures. Keeping McCann is risky, but if Bethancourt was ready, I think McCann would be gone. He’s not, so this gives Bethancourt a little more time. I wish Wren would get rid of Uggla, but I’ll be shocked if that happens. Wren won’t admit he made a mistake with Uggla’s contract. So, Uggla stays for now. Even die hard Uggla fans won’t be happy if Uggla looks the same come Spring Training, though, so I’m just waiting. Hudson and Maholm, yes.
Larry30
October 31st, 2012
12:19 am
It’s not just risky, it’s a boneheaded move. The only way this works is if he catches fire next year and we are able to trade him to an AL team for a boatload of prospects at the trade deadline in July. A $12 million gamble. I certainly don’t want to hear any more whining about liberty media and our lack of spending. When you have a GM throwing away $60 million on Lowe, $60 million on uggla, $24 million on kawakami, $20 million on mclouth, and $12 million on a gimpy overweight catcher I don’t think it matters how much money you hand him to spend. He should have taken the money and started figuring out a way to tie up freeman for several years.
Mitsy
October 31st, 2012
12:31 am
Yes, I agree, Larry30. I was really hoping Wren would be fired, but of course he wasn’t. So, Braves are stuck with him. As long as Wren is there, I expect these type decisions. He’s never surprised me with smart, risky, moves before so I don’t expect I’m to start now. Remember, though…Chipper’s gone. If McCann and Uggla struggle this season, the Braves will most likely lose a lot more games. Then Wren should worry.
Kujohn
October 31st, 2012
12:40 am
(This is a no brainer). Sign bj upton. Trade for juston upton Both are in our budget. Outfield 3 studs Heyward upton upton Best outfield in league. Infield freeman. Uggla Simmons prado
Mac 1 yr. then bethancourt
All but uggla. Can be gold gloves
Great defense for are young pitchers
New young guns
Beachy minor Medlin Maybe Tehran With Hudson And our bullpen
This team is young an full of talent
Please give ur opinion
Rowsdower
October 31st, 2012
12:49 am
Well, for those of you clammoring for Delmon Young in a trade, he is a free agent now, so if you want a DH in LF he’s your guy!
Rowsdower
October 31st, 2012
12:57 am
@Kujohn – I like the idea of having both Uptons in our OF, but Justin would cost a fortune in prospects. When I say fortune, i’m talking Teheran AND Delgado plus others. We’re talking Texieria prospects. I just don’t see mortgaging the future for a player that might not turn the corner.
Michael
October 31st, 2012
6:11 am
All you who want to trade Uggla, no team is going to trade for a slow,poor fielding,poor hitting 2nd baseman
BravesFanInMaine
October 31st, 2012
7:26 am
Youkillis imo is going back to boston I would count on it
JoeFan
October 31st, 2012
8:31 am
If McCann does come back and is productive the Braves win their $12 million dollar wager. If he continues on like the last two seasons then the Braves have thrown $12 million away. This decision is gambling and nothing more. Further proof that Wren’s decisions are questionable when entrusted with significant dollars. Really scary to see what happens with CF, LF and 3B.
Bossmann45
October 31st, 2012
8:57 am
I wouldn’t give up Teheran or Delgado…YET! 7 of our top ten prospects are pitchers. I think they should trate Hanson, Costanza, and one of the second tier prospects for Willingham to cover LF. This trade would be almost even as far as finances go. Then they would still have around 25 mil to fill one spot. I also like the idea of getting Pagan to play CF, but they would definetly have the financial flexbility to bring Bourn back.
Bossmann45
October 31st, 2012
8:57 am
I wouldn’t give up Teheran or Delgado…YET! 7 of our top ten prospects are pitchers. I think they should trate Hanson, Costanza, and one of the second tier prospects for Willingham to cover LF. This trade would be almost even as far as finances go. Then they would still have around 25 mil to fill one spot. I also like the idea of getting Pagan to play CF, but they would definetly have the financial flexbility to bring Bourn back.
Bossmann45
October 31st, 2012
8:57 am
I wouldn’t give up Teheran or Delgado…YET! 7 of our top ten prospects are pitchers. I think they should trate Hanson, Costanza, and one of the second tier prospects for Willingham to cover LF. This trade would be almost even as far as finances go. Then they would still have around 25 mil to fill one spot. I also like the idea of getting Pagan to play CF, but they would definetly have the financial flexbility to bring Bourn back.
Sam
October 31st, 2012
9:23 am
I would trade Teheran, Hanson, or Delgado in some kind of package in a heartbeat to get a major player like Justin Upton. It’d be ridiculous not to.
Ralph
October 31st, 2012
9:26 am
Another wasted season coming up! enough said.
BravesFanSince80s
October 31st, 2012
9:34 am
about the only positive I can take from keeping McCann is that WHEN not IF this ends badly, it will be pretty tough to explain from Wren’s point-of-view, thus hopefully he will be fired and we can finally move on from his tenure of mediocrity…
jeff
October 31st, 2012
9:41 am
can we stop bashing Wren for the Uggla deal. Uggla had proven thru 4 years of excellent production with the Marlins to be one of the 2 or 3 best 2nd basemen in all of baseball. who could have predicted such a falloff for him? nobody. compared to some other players with the same stats for those 4 years his contract with atlanta looked pretty good. sometimes things just dont work out. doesnt make Wren stupid.
Sensible
October 31st, 2012
10:19 am
After reading these comments, I’m really glad none of you are GM. Most of these “I’d get so-an-so and get rid of so-and-so, then we’d be the best team ever!” You know, trades are between at least TWO parties! You can’t just call up other teams and tell them to send their stars our way and we’ll send them a broken down player(Hanson, strUggla). Also, there are these things called “contracts” which say you have to pay a player for x amount of years. So, you don’t have to play those players but they still have to be paid(Lowe) or you if you can, get someone else to, but 9 times out of 10 if you don’t want to pay someone other people tend to agree with you.
The Braves were smart in picking up these extensions. For all you B-mac nay-sayers, who are you going to replace him with? They didn’t sign long term, he has a year to return to form and they can either trade him or be done with him after his contract expires.
Yes, Uggla is whiffing up a storm and I believe he may be partly responsible for Sandy, but you are stuck with him, so you might as well hope he hits for average again.
Bourn is probably gone. He was a true lead-off hitter before coming to Atlanta, but this past season tried to be a HR guy and SO too often for the money.
Finally, baseball is a calculated gamble. You can’t guarantee anyone’s performance. You just bet on the players you think will do well and try not to bet too much if it’s a bust.
BravesFanSince80s
October 31st, 2012
10:27 am
why do so many people on here not understand that there were a reasonable handfull of FA catchers available? any one of which would have been a perfectly serviceable stop-gap until Betancourt is ready? any one of which would not have cost a fraction of 12 MILLION DOLLARS? any one of which would have played WORLDS better defensively? stop with the man-love guys, it makes it pretty tough to take you seriously on anything…oh and what is up with all the people who seem to think you need Mike Piazza at C every year? I say again, our most electric teams in franchise history (’91 & ‘92) had Greg Olson at C….
Rick
October 31st, 2012
10:45 am
Resigning McCann is a horrible decision. $12,000,000 is almost 20%of the entire payroll. Wren is a flaming IGMO.
reckingball
October 31st, 2012
10:55 am
All of these GM wannabees, most of them don’t know shine-ola from the other stuff, that also starts with a s.
rico carty
October 31st, 2012
11:32 am
It’s interesting to note that Buster Posey is the only starter for SF that started in 2010. This resigning of McCann is why the Braves don’t win. I like McCann, but no way is he worth $12MM, especially after the surgery. That money would have been much better used to go after LF/3B and CF, and to LOCK UP Heyward and Freeman for a long time. McCann just gives you more of what is already your best asset on offense…LH power hitting.
Braves just are too nice, loyal sometimes. Always going for that Family Dollar deal instead of shopping at an upscale store, especially when they have the money to shop upscale. They’ll wind up with marginal CF and 3B as they time and time again spend the money in the wrong places. Too often they negotiated against themselves. Was that 5th year for Uggla really necessary? Why compete against yourselves? Ditto Lowe’s 4th year. Just insane, then go cheap on places you need help.
It feels like they are going to squander the money created by end of Lowe and Chipper contracts.
Jimmy
October 31st, 2012
11:48 am
you are so right reckingball… and thanks for the math lesson Rick… didn’t know 12 million is 20% of a projected 95 million dollar payroll…
BravesFanSince80s
October 31st, 2012
12:27 pm
yeah because the ACTUAL percentage matters so much in this case…
Sambo 4 Rambo
October 31st, 2012
12:34 pm
Great news! Even better move! The mac attack will be back, jack! Congrats to Heyward on the gold glove. Now focus on filling those CJ shoes. Sounds like the mets are tieing up wright but i would love to see where we atleast make a hard push his way, plan B would be to move prado to third and maybe push for a hamilton??
Perennial Failures
October 31st, 2012
1:39 pm
25 million down a hole for Mac and Uggly. Great start to the offseason.
Kujohn
October 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
Yes Justin upton will cost us a lot. As long as its not beachy minor or Medlin We have the prospects. Tex was for 1 an 1/2 yrs Upton for 3 yrs His prime 26 27 28. ESPN. Insider headline
The braves appear well set for winter trade If any body has insider. Please share
bill
October 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
Uggla is not going anywhere are you crazy nobody wants him. Maybe for 2 mill and we pick up 11 million. Hardly worth the effort.
raffy
October 31st, 2012
1:56 pm
Uggla is going to give you pretty good 2b numbers and possibly excellent numbers; as far as pitchers- you know one, two or more will break down during the season so no point trading any at this time unless we are giving up on one of the prospects and want to get what value we can
j5baeza
October 31st, 2012
2:18 pm
im glad we are not goin for bourn his attitude sucks, we should go for pagan in a cheaper price or try to reach willingham 25 m is more than enough money for 2 very good players, at lastttt i hope lm sells the team, we need more commitment and budget ,we all love this team but with this kind of money our capacity of making mistakes is minimal(uggla,lowe,kawakami,letting go infante), and a lot of things have to happen to make this team a contender.
Perennial Failures
October 31st, 2012
2:23 pm
Get Hamilton, trade for Granderson, pick up A.J. and I’ll be happy. Think about Greinke too.
j5baeza
October 31st, 2012
2:24 pm
25 m (uggla , mccann), 10 (cespedes,reddick, smith), thats a huge gap
All I'm Saying Is....
October 31st, 2012
2:55 pm
Anybody can be traded and anything is possible regarding moving Uggla IF THE BRAVES ARE WILLING TO EAT A PORTION OF HIS CONTRACT in the remaining years. And the Angels have a big money cable deal in place and are typically buyers so talk to them.
My 2 cents is to offer Bourn 5 years at 16M per. If he balks, go after Upton. Either way, get one and move Prado to third base.
Hamilton is too high risk given his history and too much of another all-or-nothing, big-swing-and-a-homer-or-strikeout hitter. In the post-steroid era, we need contact hitters.
LET’S GO BRAVES!
Ralph
October 31st, 2012
3:06 pm
I suspect Wren will first try to lock down a center fielder and then wait and have a good look at Gattis and Cunningham in spring training before going after another outfielder.
larry30
October 31st, 2012
3:19 pm
I suspect there is talk internally of moving Heyward to center field and then trying to fill the gap in right and left. There is a lot of work to do on this team and we have $12 million less than we should have right now. Everybody is so worried about how would we fill McCann’s shoes. It’s not tough to find a catcher who hits around .225 and hits 15-20 homers in a full time role. We haven’t had a center fielder since 2005 when Andruw last played there except for this year when Bourne played. If I had to choose who to offer $12 million a year to between bourne and McCann, it wouldn’t take me more than two seconds to figure that one out.
Homer the Brave
October 31st, 2012
3:28 pm
We need to bring back Scott Proctor and Corky Miller.
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russ's spot
October 31st, 2012
4:00 pm
i would keep uggla and mcann but trade all the idiots on thid blog for a case of used rubbers
a fan
October 31st, 2012
4:05 pm
if i read one more moronic comment about Uggla I will puke, once again his On Base percentage was 384 same as Bourn, Do any of you remember Adam Dunn in 2011 he hit 200, last year 280 with lots of home runs,he came back and was come back player of the year. Uggss will hit 25 home runs, drive in 90 walk 80 -90 times or I’ll eat my puke.
russ's spot
October 31st, 2012
4:14 pm
then i would trade hanson and a dozed used ballons for verlander. jj and 2 dozen used ballons for david wright. put pastornicky at third, francisco at first,freeman in center, then trade heyward
and the leftover ballons for ted williams. thaw him out and put him in right next year.
benchwarmer
October 31st, 2012
5:02 pm
Oh brother! Next to nothing going on in the league and way to many of the bloggers are already comdemning 2013 to the trash heap. The hot stove isn’t even warm yet guys, get real.
benchwarmer
October 31st, 2012
5:06 pm
Wren recently said for the record that he sees Heyward as a right fielder only. Shift this guy here send this guy there get a head case like Hamilton and all will be great! Jeeesss!
Wow
October 31st, 2012
5:28 pm
Y’all ain’t never gon be satisfied, is ya ?
Dav
October 31st, 2012
5:40 pm
Constanza will be a option if we don’t sign Bourn. If we could get a righthand bat for LF we could give Constanza a shot in CF. We need to resign Ross or we’ll be looking for major league Catcher. Beachy wont be really until August, and then not fully, so either Teheran and Delgado has to get some balls and man up this spring. So, if Bourn leaves we have to sign Pagan, Victorino or trade for someone like Willingham or one of the Upton’s….
McCann and Hanson could be traded in July if we have other options that can get the job done?
BravesBanter.com
October 31st, 2012
6:03 pm
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Mike Mangan
November 1st, 2012
12:52 am
As Haloweenpasses from Ghost 7 goblins to all saints day It is time for me to roll out my 2013 lineup.Infield Freeman,Uggla,Simmons,Francisco Outfield Heyward ,Prado and dexter fowler behind the plate Ross with Betancort as backup.
Starter Medlin,Minor,Maholm,Hudson # 5 starter Delgado.Bullpen Moylan,Martinez,Durbin.Avilan,O,Flaherty,Venters and Kimbrell (12 Pitchers) Bench players Janish,reed Johnson an outfieder to replace Costanza who goes along with Hanson and Pastornicky to Denverand another infielder aquired from Rockies in the Hanson Fowler trade.Give Francisco 500 at bats he will strike out at least 125 times but he has power.Four righthand three lefthanded and one swichitter in Fowler.Beachy comes back in July and McCann in early June and we are good to go!!!
Dav
November 1st, 2012
2:30 am
Mike, don’t know if Rockies would want Contanza,Hanson or Pastornicky? Guess Fowler is a possiablity? McCann has to be replace until June at least and Beachy cann’t be counted on. We need a stud righthand back, you pick LF or 3RD and a catcher if Gattlis isn’t ready to back up Ross? Ross also still has to be sign, he’s a FA. Betancort wont be up just to sit on the bench. Braves aren’t sure about Francisco either? Hope Delgado is ready to man up. The # 1 think we need is a righthand hiter, (Willingham, Ludwick or one of the uptons) LF or 3rd. 2. Speed in CF (Fowler, Bourjos,(LAA) Pagan) and another catcher.