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DS1

November 2nd, 2012
4:26 pm

Mixxo

Hope you had a happy anniversary of your birth. Wasn’t it a couple of days ago?

:wink:

Murph

November 2nd, 2012
4:26 pm

so have you installed elephant-friendly chimney yet?

She’s moved on. It’s looking like her tears this year will be over not getting her very own real hunting rifle.

She’s very in to hunting games on her iPod… would rather shoot deer than play Care Bears or whatever. Not sure where that comes from given that I don’t hunt.

She even knows the brand names. She wants a Browning X-Bolt rifle.

Not… gonna… happen… ever. The 6 year old would need to go into protective custody.

Mixxo

November 2nd, 2012
4:29 pm

DS1 -

It was yesterday….and very happy.

Thanks for asking!

Efrim

November 2nd, 2012
4:29 pm

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Imagine if the #Rangers signed Greinke. Rotation would be Darvish-Greinke-Harrison-Holland-Ogando. All under 30.

With average fastball velo in the mid-90’s.

Sigh…….

Mixxo

November 2nd, 2012
4:29 pm

DS1 -

It was yesterday….and very happy.

Thanks for asking!

Mixxo

November 2nd, 2012
4:31 pm

Soph

November 2nd, 2012
4:33 pm

Happy belated, Mixxo! We got Schauffeurre just for you. :)

DS1

November 2nd, 2012
4:34 pm

Mixxo

Hey, it’s OK to be proud of a B-Day! Shout it TWICE brother!

I’m sitting here wondering when we’re going to hear if the Braves have made a qualifying offer to Bourn? Maybe they already have, and I just missed the boat.

cricket

November 2nd, 2012
4:36 pm

With average fastball velo in the mid-90’s.

and with all that, they will get knocked out in play-in game but at least they could be the best team in AL ;)

Hillbilly

November 2nd, 2012
4:36 pm

She even knows the brand names. She wants a Browning X-Bolt rifle.

Atta girl. Can’t go wrong with a Browning.

TennesseePaul

November 2nd, 2012
4:36 pm

With average fastball velo in the mid-90’s.

Sigh…

And the worst of luck in the post season. I hope they keep it up. Keep backing in through that wild-card play-off and getting scratched out. Do that 10 more times and I think even the casual fan will take a second look at what the Braves did in the 90’s

cricket

November 2nd, 2012
4:41 pm

most dangerous cities in America rankings – look who made playoffs -

2. Detroit
3. St. Louis
4. Oakland
8. Atlanta
9. Baltimore
12. Cleveland
16. Kansas City
17. Miami
18. Philadelphia
21. Washington DC

Efrim

November 2nd, 2012
4:42 pm

DKnobler ‏@DKnobler
Yankees make it official: They made qualifying offers to Soriano, Kuroda and Swisher today.

brian

November 2nd, 2012
4:44 pm

What would be the cost in money and prospects comparatively of Willingham versus Headley?

Neither the Padres nor the Twins have to trade either player and will ask for significant prospect(s) in return. I assume the Pads would want more for Headley due to age and contract but I can see the Twins holding out for a lot too. The Twins desparately need ML ready pitching whch will help lead to a deal- Delgado seems like a good fit there. Of course, the padres would love to have more young pitching as well

Efrim

November 2nd, 2012
4:44 pm

I hope they keep it up. Keep backing in through that wild-card play-off and getting scratched out.

But will Daniels get the boot if they continue to lose that play-in game? That’s what I’m wondering…

Efrim

November 2nd, 2012
4:46 pm

Hamilton
Swisher
Kuroda
Soriano

All will cost draft picks so far.

cricket

November 2nd, 2012
4:48 pm

Kuroda will not cost anyone draft pick, he will be signed by the team

TennesseePaul

November 2nd, 2012
4:50 pm

But will Daniels get the boot if they continue to lose that play-in game? That’s what I’m wondering…

Doubt it. Nolan doesn’t seem like a guy who would read that as GM team-construction-failure.

Efrim

November 2nd, 2012
4:50 pm

Kuroda will not cost anyone draft pick, he will be signed by the team

I agree. Just stating that he would require the loss of a draft pick. Yanks are going to re-sign him. I’d probably bet he just takes the offer and plays for the $13.3 million next year.

TennesseePaul

November 2nd, 2012
4:51 pm

All will cost draft picks so far.

Correction, they all have the draft tacked to them. They only cost picks if some other team signs them. But I wouldn’t be surprised to find at least 3 of those four back with their teams.

Efrim

November 2nd, 2012
4:53 pm

Doubt it. Nolan doesn’t seem like a guy who would read that as GM team-construction-failure.

Well, my point more is – if continued 90 win teams fail to play a postseason series due to a team ahead of them winning 98 games, does ownership can the GM?

Depends on the ownership, I guess.

TennesseePaul

November 2nd, 2012
4:54 pm

Man, there is a lot of waiver wiring claiming going on. I don’t remember this in years past. This new CBA sure is changing the flow of personnel this off-season. I think the rate everything goes down is going to be more interesting than what goes down.

Bravedan

November 2nd, 2012
4:54 pm

Seriously….. All in good fun.

Today has been a quiet one.

And enjoyed by all:)

Efrim

November 2nd, 2012
4:55 pm

Correction, they all have the draft tacked to them. They only cost picks if some other team signs them.

Of course I know that….

But I wouldn’t be surprised to find at least 3 of those four back with their teams.

Yes, I could see the Yankees re-signing Soriano and Kuroda accepting. Not sure about Hamilton. Swisher is a goner.

TennesseePaul

November 2nd, 2012
4:56 pm

Depends on the ownership, I guess.

Yup. And I don’t see TEX ownership acting that way. There are fewer and fewer teams with reactionary owners these days it seems. That might be traceable to the Braves legacy. The steadiness at the top of the franchise which produced a lot of contenders and post-season opportunities… and not heads rolling for lack of WS rings.

Efrim

November 2nd, 2012
4:59 pm

… and not heads rolling for lack of WS rings.

Crapshoot. Tough to fire a GM based on a roll of the dice.

Efrim

November 2nd, 2012
5:01 pm

Alex Speier ‏@alexspeier
In a not-shocking piece of news, David Ortiz receives a qualifying offer from the #redsox.

Really waiting on some of the more difficult decisions – Jackson/WAS, LaRoche/WAS, Lohse/STL, Upton/TB.

And of course, Bourn and the Braves although that’s not too difficult…neither really is Upton or Lohse.

Efrim

November 2nd, 2012
5:06 pm

Marc Topkin ‏@TBTimes_Rays
#Rays make qualifying offer to B.J. Upton

DS1

November 2nd, 2012
5:08 pm

While I still think that FW will make the qualifying offer to Bourn, there is an outside chance they won’t risk it either. But you’d certainly think that with all the money that is supposedly available, Boras will not miss out on the fun.

brian

November 2nd, 2012
5:12 pm

there is no reason for the Braves not to make an offer to Bourn. One year at $13 million is expensive but itis only a 1 year committment. Either he plays really well for the Braves justifying the 1 year price tag (and thus playing himself into a huge contract the next offseason netting the Braves a draft pick) or he doesn’t play terribly well offensively then it is just a 1 year committment.

No way Boras lets him take the 1 year deal though. No way.

Phillies, Nats, Giants, or somebody will overpay him

brian

November 2nd, 2012
5:13 pm

no reason to sign one of the the players who will cost us a draft pick and that includes Swisher. They all are either out of our league pricewise or we can get comparable players elsewhere

DS1

November 2nd, 2012
5:16 pm

brian

If Hamilton was right handed, I’d overpay to get him. I think his bat in our #4 slot would make our lineup devastating.

I’d even be tempted to add him even though he hits lefthanded. His OPS against left handed pitching for his career is a tad over 800. (Against righties he’s way over 900 OPS)

Murph

November 2nd, 2012
5:19 pm

If Hamilton was right handed, I’d overpay to get him. I think his bat in our #4 slot would make our lineup devastating.

Absolutely. Between insurance and behavioral stipulations they can add to the contract they can mitigate their risk, at least a little bit.

BravePack(FreeFan)

November 2nd, 2012
5:20 pm

Yes DS1 is on board as well. Slowly but surely more and more are jumping on the Hamilton bandwagon.

Roman Gal

November 2nd, 2012
5:21 pm

8. Atlanta

And just think, the umpires used to enjoy visiting Atlanta.

Don’t be messin’ with us Atlantans. Thug life, yo!

DS1

November 2nd, 2012
5:21 pm

Murph

Even now, I’d still be tempted to sign him if you could get him for a 5 year deal. Pay him 100 million for 5 years? He’ll probably be expecting more though.

But that’s where FW has to sell him on being the BMOC in ATL.

brian

November 2nd, 2012
5:23 pm

no way we get Hamilton and no player is worth 1/4 of a team’s payroll.

Murph

November 2nd, 2012
5:28 pm

Derek Lowe was approximately 20% of the Braves’ 2010 salary. Not going to get into deal, but it does show that the Braves aren’t completely averse to paying large salaries that take up a considerable chunk of the overall team payroll.

I also don’t think the Braves will not sign Hamilton, but they can afford him if they choose to pursue him. I wish they’d sign him, but I don’t see it happening.

Murph

November 2nd, 2012
5:29 pm

Double negative! I don’t think the Braves will sign Hamilton. That’s what I meant.

CB

November 2nd, 2012
5:31 pm

Danny Knobler with CBSSports says Braves have some interest in Hamilton.

Disgusted

November 2nd, 2012
5:31 pm

Disgusted, so you’re assessment of Freeman is pretty similar to mine, from what it seems.

@Shaun — I agree I was just sort of joking a bit. Your assessment is more technical than mine, nothing peronal at all.

Your posts have great info. I just am too lazy to get into the advanced stuff like FIP and WAR though the one thing that has come good out of the SABR era is attention to OBP and WHIP.

brian

November 2nd, 2012
5:33 pm

accounting purposes, Lowe was $15 million correct? Our payroll was higher than $75 million

nolie

November 2nd, 2012
5:33 pm

It’s almost like having a major league team in Macon. Mostly older people there. Not very much to do around town…RG

hey I resemble that remark, we SW Floridians are just very mature….

Disgusted

November 2nd, 2012
5:35 pm

Josh Hamilton is NOT going to be a Brave.

And San Diego is very, very unlikely to trade Chase Headley, who came into his own this yr.

More likely for CF we are going in the Bourjos/Span or Revere route. Most logical guys I can think of that we could get.

As for LF, I really wonder if we can offer a good package to Minnesota for both Willinghan and either Span or Revere. I would give them any one of the SP’s from a choice of Hanson, Delgado or Teheran. Not Minor. That would be a start.

What else do we have that they would want?

Roman Gal

November 2nd, 2012
5:35 pm

hey I resemble that remark, we SW Floridians are just very mature….

Is that code for boring? I got the “retirement” vibe from St. Pete.

brian

November 2nd, 2012
5:35 pm

I am sure we have plenty of interest in Hamilton. He is a monster presence with the bat but he is getting older, has big time injury history, and there is that drug/alcohol issue.

the Braves payroll has not been above $100 million for a while so it is hard to see anyone getting $20 million plus per year. If Hamilton agreed to a 3 year $60-75 million contract maybe the Braves would go for that but Hamilton is going to want a 5 year contract for at least that dollar amount per year.

brian

November 2nd, 2012
5:37 pm

the Braves will want to spend Hamilton type money to fill LF and CF, handle arbitration raises, and possibly lock up Heyward, Prado, Medlen, Beachy, etc.

Disgusted

November 2nd, 2012
5:38 pm

Brian — I do not want to give up a draft pick either cause we really really need to bolster the system and FW has got to really hit it good with everyday players in the nest TWO drafts.

Its a dearth on the farm for everyday guys.

I see Bethancourt as a back up defensve minded catcher. I wish I could say nice things on Salcedo, we can hope but its time to see real results. Like in 2013 at the earliest.

Bay Area Steve

November 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm

“Is that code for boring?”

Damn. RG came back mean. I like it.

Disgusted

November 2nd, 2012
5:42 pm

Who is Heap???? I hear references to Heap, not sure who they are talking about.

David O'Brien

November 2nd, 2012
5:42 pm

NEW BLOGGAGE

The legend of Evan Gattis has spread to Latin America, and yes, even at 26, Braves consider him a “very good prospect”

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/11/02/braves-gm-on-gattis-very-good-prospect/

Murph

November 2nd, 2012
5:43 pm

accounting purposes, Lowe was $15 million correct? Our payroll was higher than $75 million

I think the payroll that year was around $82mil, although I didn’t look it up so I could be way off (which is why I used the word “approximately”… wiggle room).

old man

November 2nd, 2012
5:45 pm

I could see Hamilton, in theory. But that means that all of your mashers are lefties, except Uggla (and he’s questionable), so I am finding it hard to put together a batting order:

Heyward
Freeman
McCann
Hamilton

I’m assuming Hamilton means your CF will be right handed, and with what we have left to spend, in prospects and/or money, I don’t see us getting a power hitter in CF, in addition to a hypothetical Hamilton. We might be constrained to get a lead off type hitter in CF anyway. So with all your power and RBIs (spots 3-6?) coming from the left side, it presents a real problem putting together a lineup.

I like the idea of splurging at one OF spot, to get a real gamer changer, but a LH hitter presents this problem, and I don’t see any RH LFers of the same caliber. Except maybe Justin Upton, and that’s a trade situation. And none of us know what his team is asking for.

Disgusted

November 2nd, 2012
5:47 pm

Minor has been improving right along. His last big hurdle was to get past the big inning. He was, consistently, giving up a crooked number in one inning in each of his starts, prior to the 2nd half.

@Bobby H — With the way Minor has worked on improving, I do think that we can give him the benefit of the doubt that he will keep it up and that he has figured out the mental aspects of what it takes to be a good MLB pitcher. He showed something even before this yr, but got his full chance this yr and after a rough start he ran with it.

Good for him.

nolie

November 2nd, 2012
5:50 pm

I am sure we have plenty of interest in Hamilton…brian

I bet we have almost no interest at all in Hamilton

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 2nd, 2012
7:06 pm

I missed the chatter today…. helping a well known meteorologist downtown today. Even got filmed by TWC. May appear soon.

Anything important?

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 2nd, 2012
7:09 pm

Oh, and in the frenzy yesterday about Ken Rosenthal predicting Hamilton to the Bravos, I don’t think it’d happen, not sure I’d like it, but I could understand a 3 year deal for 17-18mil each year.

Then I remembered today, that he’ll get a qual. offer. Don’t want to give up that top40 pick!

Thanks, Efrim, for turning me into a prospect hoarder ;)

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 2nd, 2012
7:12 pm

Yeah, probably a safe bet Greinke will only get about $15M a year or so on a 3 to 4 year deal…

…….

Nah, we’ll give that or more next year to Garza, Hughes, or the oft-injured Josh Johnson to be our ace. :roll:

I’d rather pay 20mil to Greinke

TheOnlyBravesFan

November 2nd, 2012
7:14 pm

Oh, I missed the new bloggage

ncgary

November 3rd, 2012
8:57 am

bourne cf 16.5m
pagan lf 11 m
prado 3b 4 yr 40 m
heyward rf 6 yr 50 m
freeman 1b 0.6 m
mccann c 12.5 m
uggla 2b 15 m
simmons ss 0.5 m

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