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BravePack(FreeFan)
November 2nd, 2012
1:41 pm
P-Town
It’ll liven up tomorrow when the Braves announce they have signed Josh Hamilton.
Bay Area Steve
November 2nd, 2012
1:44 pm
“I lean a bit more toward happenstance”
Me, too. I might even lean farther. But, two World Series in three years is not entirely happenstance.
I mean, right off the bat, we can say a 360-288 team with an above-average fifth starter will tend to fare worse in the postseason than a 360-288 team with a below-average fifth-starter, no?
Reagan
November 2nd, 2012
1:46 pm
Efrim………No equivalent of Rush on the left?! Are you kiddng?! How about Olberman…., Shultz? How about Matthews (THAT should send a tingle up your leg). Lord!…….how about Krugman? EJ Dionne ? Not saying Rush isn’t a flamer!
Reagan
November 2nd, 2012
1:46 pm
Efrim………No equivalent of Rush on the left?! Are you kiddng?! How about Olberman…., Shultz? How about Matthews (THAT should send a tingle up your leg). Lord!…….how about Krugman? EJ Dionne ? Not saying Rush isn’t a flamer!
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
1:48 pm
Has PL graced us with his presence?
Shaun
November 2nd, 2012
1:49 pm
Efrim, I agree that people should freely critique and criticize front offices when they make mistakes. But the thing is I think that I don’t think there are a lot of awful front offices, in that they consistently make boneheaded decisions, at least not these days. Some are going to make more mistakes than others and some are going to make more egregious mistakes than others, admittedly, but I don’t think there are a lot that consistently make boneheaded decisions.
Roman Gal
November 2nd, 2012
1:50 pm
The re-emergence of Roman Gal was the siren song of sweet Josie.
Ha. That’s funny. I guess I did come back on here one day before they got him back…
Venice Jim
November 2nd, 2012
1:51 pm
Efrim – PL the other side of the aisle…
Bay Area Steve
November 2nd, 2012
1:51 pm
I know Shaun went Pirates, but I’m sayin’ the Dodgers guy. The Red Sox deal, League, Ethier, the Juan “Are You Freakin’ Serious” Uribe deal. I think he qualifies as pretty bad. What are his highlights?
And, mostly, I’m calling him out for that awesome baby-throwing-money clip that circulated yesterday.
Venice Jim
November 2nd, 2012
1:52 pm
Not that I ever was pleased about that…
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
1:52 pm
Now this right here, is laugh out loud funny…….found this on Peter W. Hjort twitter feed – which is always a blast.
J.C. Bradbury @jc_bradbury
People are making fun of Nate Silver for averaging polls and looking at history? We deserve any asteroid that hits us.
Bay Area Steve
November 2nd, 2012
1:52 pm
I mean, didn’t Dee Gordon get like 500 ABs?
George_George
November 2nd, 2012
1:53 pm
nolie
November 2nd, 2012
1:36 pm
I lean a bit more toward happenstance than genius as far as post season success goes, way too often well rated pickups tank and borderline ones shine in such a way as to win.
so I guess there is a certain level on knowledge that puts a team in possible contention most seasons, but actually winning the WS is a large part circumstance over which nobody has all that much control
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How true. A test of 162 games is a better indicater of a team then a test of 7, or 5 or 3 or of course 1 game is just silly. Could be the English have the right idea with soccer/ thier football. Team with best regular season record is champion no playoffs.
Bay Area Steve
November 2nd, 2012
1:55 pm
Dustin Parkes @dustinparkes
Rare footage of Ned Colletti’s negotiation tactics: http://bit.ly/PG51Mo
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
1:58 pm
I think he qualifies as pretty bad. What are his highlights?
Funny you say that. Guess where he worked before LA?
Anyway, 2008 and 2009 ALCS appearances, I’m sure. 597-537 in 7 seasons as LAD GM.
Lots of bad baseball trades and questionable signings. Like giving Barry Zito, Aaron Rowand, and Aubrey Huff multi year deals. Trading Zack Wheeler for 2 months of Carlos Beltr….
Wait, sorry….
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
1:58 pm
NLCS*
Shaun
November 2nd, 2012
1:58 pm
San Francisco Giants have the exact same regular season record as the Braves the last four seasons – 360-288.
And both teams have solid front offices.
Roman Gal
November 2nd, 2012
2:00 pm
Bad location, period, with that causeway and rush-hour traffic. Put it in Ybor City or somewhere in downtown Tampa.
When I went to a game down there this past season, it was the weirdest experience. It’s almost like having a major league team in Macon. Mostly older people there. Not very much to do around town.
P-Town Brave ©
November 2nd, 2012
2:00 pm
BP-
IF that were to happen it’d get me to navigate back here on a Saturday when I have a college bball game to get to, college football to watch, and new video games to play….
I’ll put the over on him signing before Thanksgiving though
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
2:01 pm
Colletti has definitely made a lot of strange moves over the course of his tenure as Dodgers GM. Do not think much of him, either, to be honest.
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2012
2:02 pm
Has PL graced us with his presence?
No, but when he does, someone please notify me so I can immediately add his latest IP address to the banned list and remove all his comments.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
2:03 pm
And both teams have solid front offices.
With one GM doing more with less and having a consistently better farm systems since both were GM’s(2007 for Wren).
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
2:05 pm
Thanks, DOB. I haven’t seen him around in a while – but that “……” after addressing the moniker always makes me think of him. Couple that with being a little rough in the commentary and that makes me think of the worst blogger to ever grace this great blogs presence.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
2:09 pm
Colletti and Sabean are a ton alike, imo. Colletti worked as the Assistant GM to Sabean for something like 10 years before he left for the Dodgers, I think – although I could be wrong on the timeframe. Lots of free agent failures and highly rated prospects that were traded for rentals or average players.
Sabean has been in office for a long time, and that certainly opens him up for more nitpicking on the large amount of deals he’s made.
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
2:12 pm
braves are going to end up with him
Torii Hunter was a beast down the stretch in the Angels’ bid for a wildcard spot, showing he has something left in the tank at age 37. With his $18-million-annual salary cleared, the opportunity to win means more to him than dollars, so a reasonable two-year deal with a contender could be win-win. He won’t make the Yankees any younger, but he would make them more athletic, and better defensively in the outfield in place of Nick Swisher.
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2012
2:13 pm
Just got an email from Dodgers that has their 2013 season promotional giveaway schedule, which includes Magic Johnson and Sandy Koufax bobbleheads, and a hooded sweatshirt. Stroooong.
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
2:15 pm
darn it
Scott Boras (via Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports): “Rick Ankiel is a position player. He’s not pitching.”
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
2:16 pm
Robothal with a good offseason primer: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Baseball-free-agent-list-not-spectacular-but-will-produce-big-contracts-and-trades-110212
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
2:19 pm
Melvin again shoots down Hamilton talk
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/176876051.html
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
2:21 pm
this is funny -
New White Sox general manager Rick Hahn’s first trade as the Chicago White Sox’ new general manager had him shipping out Kenny Williams Jr., the son of his boss and predecessor, Kenny Williams, to the Rockies.
In return for Williams Jr., the Rockies sent away Mark Tracy, the son of their former manager Jim Tracy.
DiamondbackMac
November 2nd, 2012
2:22 pm
JeffR – I don’t think the blog has hit “Lord of the Flies” level… yet.
More like “Animal Farm”.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
2:23 pm
I can’t believe they are going to run the NYC marathon. Picture the runners dumping bottles of water on themselves while being guarded by the hundreds of police officers while, you know, homes are being looted, and plenty of people need help and the entire state of New Jersey doesn’t have clean drinking water. So stupid.
richbrave
November 2nd, 2012
2:26 pm
Just thinking about what the prospects for the outfield would be if we lose BOURN and fail in securing an adequate replacement. WILLINGHAM certainly doesn’t fit CF.
Yes, off what we know right now, GATTIS may be in LF….it’s a stretch but maybe, and yes, we might be successful in securing WILLINGHAM. Getting UPTON, PAGAN or some other servicable CF is much more problematic to my mind.
I’m leery of WILLINGHAM coming off a career year with his injury history. I think he’s a solid player, but not a HEYWARD-type. However he and REED JOHNSON could probably hold up with PRADO available in an emergency.
And if GATTIS were on the bench for fill-in duty off the bench, that would make LF and C pretty secure. GATTIS might actually fill in behind the plate with ROSS until B-MACC comes back.
Having HEYWARD, who is outstanding, and the distinct possibility of no other fielder of his caliber just gives me the shivers. Hence the blanket and warming reference.
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
2:26 pm
yep, should postpone the marathon
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
2:27 pm
Just wait until that salt water corrodes the already old NYC subway eletrical wiring and such. That system is so old. $$$ of damages to the metropolitan area – whole new infrastructure.
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2012
2:29 pm
Love that comment from Brewers manager in quashing the Milwaukee-Josh Hamilton rumor:
“We’ve got the connection with (hitting coach) Johnny Narron but we don’t have the connection with U.S. Bank,” said Melvin, referring to the huge contract Hamilton is seeking.
Because Narron was Hamiton’s “accountability coach” in both Cincinnati and Texas before coming to Milwaukee, a lot of folks have taken the leap that the Brewers are the logical team to sign him on the market. What those people don’t understand is that Hamilton is expected to be out of the club’s financial reach.
Yes, the Brewers cleared some $40 million off the books with Zack Greinke, Shaun Marcum, Randy Wolf and Francisco Rodriguez, but a lot of that will go to players on long-term deals as well as arbitration. The Brewers also are bringing the payroll down after stretching it to $100 million in 2012 and losing money when attendance dropped and they didn’t make the playoffs.
Accordingly, Melvin reiterated that he doesn’t expect to pursue big-ticket free agents.
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
2:29 pm
richbrave – don’t forget Torii Hunter
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2012
2:29 pm
Sabean has been in office for a long time, and that certainly opens him up for more nitpicking on the large amount of deals he’s made.
True, but many of his most egregious deals came during the roid era when he tried to get a WS ring with Bonds by buying a lot of “proven veterans” to put around him. Since then he has restrained himself from going completely overboard like he did back then. Those teams were old. Bunch of 30+ year old guys all over the field. However, even so, from ‘97-’04 his teams went to the post season 4 times, came in 1st or 2nd in the division every year, averaged 92 wins a year and saw attendance rise from 11th in the league to first in the league (and hold first for 3 straight years).
You may not like how he got his job done. I don’t like it much either. But, the job of the GM is to put a competitive team on the field every year to drive up attendance and make money and Sabean has done that in SF. He had a 5 year period at the end of the ‘roid era while he waited out Bonds’ records and contracts, the team was nothing special and now he is back, largely on the backs of guys he drafted…
Cain, 27
Lincecum, 28
Sandoval, 25
Posey, 25
Bumgarner, 22
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
2:29 pm
And think about all of the roads shut down right now – think of what they normally do when the marathon is going on. I’m floored by Bloomberg’s decision. Who cares about the proceeds to the city – you’re going to need hundred times more than that to fix the issue and right now, people of the tri-state area need help, period.
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
2:30 pm
Just wait until that salt water corrodes the already old NYC subway eletrical wiring and such.
did the rats get out safely?
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2012
2:33 pm
and a hooded sweatshirt
They know their fan base. Most of them are wearing hoodies when they go to the game, and after when they are shanking opposing teams fans in the parking lot.
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
2:33 pm
forget the proceeds to the city – marathon would take away some support personnel which are severely needed by the affected people in the city
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
2:36 pm
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/02/2003-top-111-free-agents-the-top-50/related/
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2012
2:38 pm
The Angels want to sign Zack Greinke, but so do their biggest rivals, the Dodgers and the Rangers.
Yeah, probably a safe bet Greinke will only get about $15M a year or so on a 3 to 4 year deal…
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
2:39 pm
Magic Johnson and Sandy Koufax bobbleheads, and a hooded sweatshirt.
that’s nothing
this Halloween, Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin the 3rd decided to give a special wearable treat to anyone who went to his home in Leesburg, Virginia.
Robert decided to leave out socks and Nike t-shirts for anyone that traveled to his residence.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
2:39 pm
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Sigh…. Multiple links.
Here was my response, sans links from ESPN, SFGate, MercuryNews, etc.
I actually think he made quite a few poor deals towards the tail end of the steroid era which gave him his 2005-2008 disaster of a team, this one in particular with players that surely would of helped him:(Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano, Boof Bonser for one year of AJ Pierzynski)
Then there was this: Barry Zito in 2006
And this a year after: Aaron Rowand in 2007
And then based off of a postseason, an aging Huff: Signing Aubrey Huff to a two year deal, third year option
But the team did crawl out of it because of some great pitching drafts that netted him Cain, Lincecum and Bumgarner.
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
2:40 pm
Yeah, probably a safe bet Greinke will only get about $15M a year or so on a 3 to 4 year deal…
+1
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
2:42 pm
You may not like how he got his job done. I don’t like it much either.
But there is a reason for it, right? Not just because I have something against him personally. I’m sure he’s a delightful fellow, as is Ned Colletti. But neither is a GM I’d be proud to call the Braves GM, and I’m happy as hell we have Frank Wren instead of either of them. So I guess I’m ranking them…..which I think is okay to do, since it;s sports – and rankings are fun.
Trader Jack
November 2nd, 2012
2:53 pm
Just got back from the Jersey shore house and all is OK. We fared much better than some neighboring towns.
jeffrey d
November 2nd, 2012
2:55 pm
They know their fan base. Most of them are wearing hoodies when they go to the game, and after when they are shanking opposing teams fans in the parking lot.
Their fans beat opposing teams fans as much as our fans throw beer bottles on the field. I don’t think we should judge based on an isolated incident.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
2:59 pm
Two hours until all of the qualifying offers need to be in. Then everyone has until next Friday, November 9th to either accept or decline.
DAP
November 2nd, 2012
3:03 pm
we talked briefly about freeman’s upside earlier, since keoth law didnt seem to think he had much left. im wondering what people here expect to see from freeman? he just put up a solid year that was nothing short of spectacular at times, but only OPSed .796. this while battling various freak injuries (the hand that got hit with a DP ball, and his tear ducts freaking out)
do y’all agree he hasnt much upside left, given he is 22 and just put up .259/.340/.456 with 23 homers, 33 doubles and 96 RBI?
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2012
3:03 pm
this one in particular with players that surely would of helped him:(Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano, Boof Bonser for one year of AJ Pierzynski)
I can’t knock that one. Wish I could. But that trade worked out brilliantly for me. AJ went to SF, buddied up with Shawn Estes and supplied me with tickets to the Dodgers games. Got to meet him, and a few other players and watch the Giants beat the Dodgers… which I had to refrain from cheering either way as Dodger stadium is a rough place to be. In all the times I was at that park, not once was there a game without a fight breaking out in the stands. Those “AJ” games… I saw three different fights break out within a 10 section radius of where I was sitting. Just some of the worst fans ever.
Murph
November 2nd, 2012
3:03 pm
Just got back from the Jersey shore house and all is OK. We fared much better than some neighboring towns.
Good deal. How much water did you get inside?
How’s the rest of Avalon and Stone Harbor? The few pictures I saw didn’t paint a pretty picture.
Murph
November 2nd, 2012
3:06 pm
do y’all agree he hasnt much upside left, given he is 22 and just put up .259/.340/.456 with 23 homers, 33 doubles and 96 RBI?
Early offseason winner for the most ridiculous statement… I’m sure it will be bested, but to say that Freeman has hit his ceiling is ludicrous. I’m trying not to be too much of a homer when looking at things, but as you said, give him average production during the time when he was out with the hand and eye issues and you’re looking at a guy who’s close to 30 HR.
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2012
3:07 pm
But there is a reason for it, right? Not just because I have something against him personally.
No, of course nothing personal against him. Most of my unfavorable opinions of his work comes from the big contracts to aging players… and Bonds was on his teams, and I never liked Bonds.
… though I will admit, when I was sitting behind home plate in SF and he hit a home run into the cove I was freaking out. It was just incredible. He killed that ball. I was screaming so loud. After he circled the bases and it was over I sat back down and cursed him for making me so excited.
P-Town Brave ©
November 2nd, 2012
3:07 pm
Efrim-
Not saying many or really any would, but wouldn’t their signing w/ new teams prior to that deadline be their decline letters?
I find it interesting they’re given a week considering they could decide after midnight tonight on heading to a new team
Lew
November 2nd, 2012
3:09 pm
Hillbilly – Weasels Ripped My Green Eggs and Ham?
Lew
November 2nd, 2012
3:16 pm
Well, whether or not it;s in a bad location or a weird experience depends on whether you’re old and live a few blocks north of the stadium. Unfortunately, we moved to Orlando before they played the first game – I was at the Grand Opening, though.
Trader Jack
November 2nd, 2012
3:21 pm
Murph
The house is up on the dunes, so no water inside, Didn’t even lose a shingle. Really dodged a bullet.
The island is in pretty good shape considering what we went through. Power has been restored to most of the homes and shops.
Shaun
November 2nd, 2012
3:25 pm
What makes Freeman a good player is his reactions and his strength. He can generate bat speed and hit the ball hard. He’s not an extremely disciplined hitter. He’s not fast. So when his reactions slow, he may struggle to remain as productive. But that’s a while from now. He probably has another decade or so as a very productive player. Things like reaction time seems to peak earlier than other baseball skills, which is probably why Law thinks he doesn’t have as much upside as other players. I think he will get better but I also think Law has a point. Players with Freeman’s skill set and body type do tend to peak early and not age well. We’re a long way from him aging. I agree that Freeman won’t get a whole lot better, though I think he will get better. But he’ll be a very solid firstbaseman for a good 10-plus more years.
old man
November 2nd, 2012
3:27 pm
Surprising about Pagan. Given what it seems his worth would be on the market, it sounds like the Giants have no intention of pursuing him. Because it puts Pagan in the position of not giving any sort of home team discount to the team that didn’t think he was worth 13M. Also, his market value should go up some on the basis that the team that gets him will pay more knowing they don’t have to give up a pick. So I’m even more convinced he will get something like 5 x 15 for 75.
The Giants can make offers along with everyone else at this point, right? But it would be stupid to give up a built in advantage by not making the qualifying offer, because they don’t have to give a pick to themselves.
Shaun
November 2nd, 2012
3:29 pm
old man, maybe the Giants are worried that Pagan would accept and they have something else up their sleeves. Maybe the Giants make a run at Bourn, Upton or Hamilton, as has been suggested here.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
3:29 pm
TenneseePaul, that’s pretty cool about AJ. He’s seems like a good dude and absolutely has a career in TV after his playing days are over. Was excellent on FOX/MLB pregame, I thought.
we talked briefly about freeman’s upside earlier, since keoth law didnt seem to think he had much left. im wondering what people here expect to see from freeman?
Yeah, I think Freeman has a lot mroe upside than Law thinks. I saw him get better as a hitter this year, despite the lower numbers. Better plate discipline, for sure and I think his ceiling is much higher than Law gives him, credit.
To date, he’s been better than Hosmer, Belt, Alonso, Smoak, and any other younger first baseman whose come up the past few years. Not sure if that’ll continue, but I’ll take that to date through his age 22 year old season.
Murph
November 2nd, 2012
3:32 pm
I liked Pagan when I thought he’d get $7-8mil a season. I can’t stand the thought of him in CF for $15mil, though. I’d almost rather go with Schafer.
DAP
November 2nd, 2012
3:32 pm
shaun Things like reaction time seems to peak earlier than other baseball skills, which is probably why Law thinks he doesn’t have as much upside as other players. I think he will get better but I also think Law has a point.
i guess a subset of my question would be what did law mean when he said that? does he mean 50 something extra base hits and a 116 OPS+ is the best were gonna see from freeman, or…i dont know. what did he mean? because i agree with murph. to assume that we wont see seasons better than this one from freeman is ridiculous, which makes me at least pause to think its not what law meant.
shaun, why isnt freeman disciplined? is it because he swings at the first pitch alot? he walks plenty, in my opinion.
Bravedan
November 2nd, 2012
3:40 pm
The only entertainment today is DOB and Efrim jabbing each other. lol.
Shaun
November 2nd, 2012
3:44 pm
DAP, I would think Law doesn’t literally think Freeman will never put up an OPS+ better than 116. I’m assuming he thinks he won’t all of the sudden become a 130-140 OPS+ type hitter. That he’ll settle in at somewhere around 120, so his upside is not as high as some of those other players, I think is what he meant, given that he brought up Freeman in context with those other guys.
Freeman swings at a high percentage of pitches. His walks are probably more a result of his hit tool and his power, which of course still counts. It’s just that he’s not the type hitter that is going to wait on his pitch. He’s going to swing at any pitch he thinks he can get good wood on, which is fine. It works just fine for him. But it seems that players who rely heavily on their hit tool and power but aren’t all that disciplined, tend to peak early and don’t tend to have a lot of upside, probably because reactions peak early than other types of useful baseball skills. Just my somewhat educated assessment that will probably be wrong in 5-10 years when Freeman wins 2-3 MVP Awards.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
3:46 pm
Law comped Freeman to Lyle Overbay once. Didn’t see it much after, but that was a comment I remember from him in one of his chats.
In Overbay’s prime, he was hitting .280/.363/.455, 114 OPS+. I think Freeman has many seasons better than that in his prime if he keeps it up at this rate.
DAP
November 2nd, 2012
3:46 pm
shaun Just my somewhat educated assessment that will probably be wrong in 5-10 years when Freeman wins 2-3 MVP Awards.
thatd be nice.
DAP
November 2nd, 2012
3:49 pm
efrim In Overbay’s prime, he was hitting .280/.363/.455, 114 OPS+. I think Freeman has many seasons better than that in his prime if he keeps it up at this rate.
overbay was a doubles power kind of guy. i think freeman has alot more pop than that.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
3:50 pm
The only entertainment today is DOB and Efrim jabbing each other.
Seriously….. All in good fun.
Today has been a quiet one.
Disgusted
November 2nd, 2012
3:53 pm
The Braves and Giants are both well run & both have been in post season two of the last three yrs.
Solid GM, solid field mgr and good overall talent.
The difference is that the Giants save their best for the post season and the Braves save their sloppiest play for post season.
Why???????? There is really no rhyme or reason behind it — its just how the teams have doe on the field.
And we should be competitive again. Not championship good enough but good enough to matter.
Ward
November 2nd, 2012
3:53 pm
Hello everyone! I was checking out trade rumors, and Hunter Pence has been tagged to the Braves now. You can add Hunter Pence to the list now.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
3:54 pm
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Ruben Amaro told us that two area’s they want to improve are CF & 8th inning reliever
I’d bet they get Upton. Younger than Bourn, right handed…
Shaun
November 2nd, 2012
3:56 pm
I think Freeman and Overbay have/had somewhat similar skill sets but Freeman has more power, may have a better hit tool, while Overbay may have had a bit of an edge in plate discipline.
This was before the 2011 season:
Kyle (BHAM) I see your not that high on Freeman which is fine. I have asked around and cant get a answer on what type of major leaguer he will be. Who does FF best compare to? thanks
Klaw (2:09 PM) I’ve heard Lyle Overbay, but that’s a bit unfair to Freeman (as all comparisons are unfair to one of the players) because you might think of Overbay post-wrist-injury. Good OBP, doubles power, solid defense, nothing spectacular. Nice player, not elite.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
3:57 pm
Hello everyone!
Post of the day. Sup, Ward.
Venice Jim
November 2nd, 2012
3:57 pm
Adam Kilgore @AdamKilgoreWP
Means he left Boras. RT @TBrownYahoo LHP Mike Gonzalez now represented by Dan Lozano of MVP Sports Group.
Ward
November 2nd, 2012
3:57 pm
Efrim – I would say Justin Upton, and possible Bourn singing with the Braves. He hasn’t ruled the Braves out. Justin upton would make more sense to me.
Disgusted
November 2nd, 2012
3:57 pm
Shaun @ 3:44.
Pickey Pickey Pickey. With Freeman’s power if he hits in the 28 to 32 HR range35 doubles and drives in a hundred with a .340 OBP that is all I need to know. And that is pretty darned good.
How he does it does not matter. Its the result that counts.
OPS+ and WAR be damed. Freedie will be fine, more than fine.
Shaun
November 2nd, 2012
4:03 pm
Disgusted, so you’re assessment of Freeman is pretty similar to mine, from what it seems.
Ward
November 2nd, 2012
4:03 pm
Here’s why I think Braves will get Justin Upton. Arizona wants’ pitching, and a positon player. Braves have the needs. I think Bourn will be signed, and Braves get Justin Upton. That’s my Prediction. Prado at 3rd base problem solved.
Shaun
November 2nd, 2012
4:04 pm
sorry….your assessment of Freeman…
Ward
November 2nd, 2012
4:06 pm
All, have a good one! Bourn will be a Brave, and Justin upton will be a Brave. Talk later tonight, and Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
4:08 pm
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
I asked Amaro if they could afford to sign Upton/Bourn, Youkilis & Peralta to solve 3 biggest needs…he said not sure he could do all of it
They need an entirely new outfield unless they are going to platoon Mayberry Jr./Brown in a corner, which seems likely. Rollins, Utley, Howard, Ruiz SS-C.
But they have those starters, and that’s an elite group.
P-Town Brave ©
November 2nd, 2012
4:08 pm
The Giants deciding not to offer on Pagan…hmm…
Does that mean Pagan and Victorino become more appealing to teams now..
What does this do to a team like the Braves who would probably be more willing to give up a pick than fight w/ other teams for someone?
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
4:10 pm
Sad to see the “Where is there gas in [insert town in southwestern CT]?” all through Facebook from people who live in New Jersey and New York. Crazy stuff.
Murph
November 2nd, 2012
4:10 pm
Gotta love Ward’s optimism… facts never get in that dude’s way. It’s like when the 4 year old decided that she was going to get a elephant from Santa. I tried to explain the reasons why she wouldn’t be getting one, but she still had a good cry Christmas morning when she came downstairs to an elephantless family room.
P-Town Brave ©
November 2nd, 2012
4:11 pm
Ward-
Man, you crazy bro!
Why would the DBacks covet pitching when they have a plethora of under control pitching talent already in the bigs….
Recall, they traded away Saunders just to open a spot in Aug last year
Shaun
November 2nd, 2012
4:11 pm
Efrim, I like Brown as a post-hype sleeper. He looked very good at the end of the season. He may finally be putting it all together.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
4:11 pm
Does that mean Pagan and Victorino become more appealing to teams now..
I think it helps Pagan’s value tremendously and probably hurts Victorino’s value as he was going to be the lone CF option without a first round pick price tag.
P-Town Brave ©
November 2nd, 2012
4:12 pm
Murph-
Damn Murph….sure do like to kick a child in the ovaries huh….WTG DAD!
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
4:14 pm
He’ll turn 26 years old next year, so it’s time for him to show the organization what he can do. Still not a great defensive outfielder(he throws off of his wrong foot seemingly every time), but he looks like a patient hitter with some power potential. Good athlete. Seems like he needs reps at the big league level and I’m sure the Phils will give it to him. Mayberry Jr. and Brown would be a solid platoon. Too bad Phillies still need a CF, RF and 3B. Plus a RH reliever. They have the money to get it though – near $40 million if they repeat the payroll from 2012.
Mixxo
November 2nd, 2012
4:15 pm
What did PL do?
Talk trash about the koolaid drinkers’ favorite sons….Hanson & Heap?
Yup, that’ll getcha canned every time.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
4:17 pm
Evan Grant @Evan_P_Grant
Jon Daniels: Rangers intend to make qualifying offer to Josh Hamilton, planning to not offer Mike Napoli, but still want Napoli back.
Mixxo
November 2nd, 2012
4:17 pm
Schlereth & Ted Bruski picking the Cowboys!
More ESPN Atlanta hate. lulz
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
4:19 pm
It’s like when the 4 year old decided that she was going to get a elephant from Santa. I tried to explain the reasons why she wouldn’t be getting one
so have you installed elephant-friendly chimney yet?
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
4:22 pm
Damn…..
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
St. Louis Post-Dispatch is reporting that Mark McGwire has informed the Cardinals that he will be accepting the hitting coach pos of Dodgers
Moe Berg
November 2nd, 2012
4:23 pm
“Sad to see the “Where is there gas in [insert town in southwestern CT]?” all through Facebook from people who live in New Jersey and New York. Crazy stuff.”–Efrim
Yep. Spent an hour-and-a-half getting gas today and felt lucky.
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2012
4:26 pm
Makes some sense for McGwire to take that position. He lives out there. Closer to his son.