Tell us what you think about the site
Customer Care »
Vacation stops, manage subscriptions and more
AJC Services
Sections
Other Editions
Visitor Agreement | Privacy Statement
© 2013 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Vacation stops, manage subscriptions and more
Visitor Agreement | Privacy Statement
© 2013 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
6,463 comments Add your comment
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 2nd, 2012
5:39 am
Brundage may become the bench coach for Sandberg, who is currently the bench coach for Cholly. It’s an opportunity for him. Hope he does well.
Even if the Giants aren’t offering a qual. to Pagan, still don’t want him. He’s had attitude problems before. Not really sold on him anyway. Just a decent defender. 2 or 3 years at 7mil per. Doubt he takes that.
Gimme Bourjos.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 2nd, 2012
5:44 am
sure he did, Bourjos regressed to his crappy first season so they played Trout,
A season that he didn’t play consistently in. 2011 was his only full year of starting. He succeeded there. At least he’ll give me great defense, with the potential to hit. He’ll come cheap too.
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2012
6:59 am
Gattis hit another long two-run homer last night, gives him five already in Venezuela….
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
7:08 am
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/20778444/bourn-and-bj-will-get-qualifying-offers-but-early-money-has-them-signing-elsewhere
Heyman says Nationals are favorites for Bourn and Phillies for Upton. We’ll see. Three NL East teams with needs in CF, heck, five as I don’t see great options for the Mets and Marlins.
Jeff R
November 2nd, 2012
7:23 am
Bourjos would come at less cost. He might regain some of his offensive prowess. Certainly, he’s help keep the Braves’ up-the-middle defense stronger.
Bravedan
November 2nd, 2012
7:32 am
DOB, thanks for the updates on Gattis. Got any footage of his last shot? LOL
richbrave
November 2nd, 2012
7:54 am
DAVID:
What I like about GATTIS is that pitchers find a weakness and he rectifies it. Since a ten-game swoon, he’s righting his bat and coming back for more. The guy’s a quick study. I love it.
BravesFanInMaine
November 2nd, 2012
7:58 am
Does the free agent frenzy start today? I am hoping the braves can start to fill the void and if anyone thinks that the braves can get grienke they are out of there minds… look the angels are clearing payroll to sign him so I doubt the braves will make a move for him….. I can see the braves getting victorino and/or upton….. I hope in next years draft the braves draft a power hitting outfielder or a stud thridbaseman
BravesFanInMaine
November 2nd, 2012
7:58 am
Does the free agent frenzy start today? I am hoping the braves can start to fill the void and if anyone thinks that the braves can get grienke they are out of there minds… look the angels are clearing payroll to sign him so I doubt the braves will make a move for him….. I can see the braves getting victorino and/or upton….. I hope in next years draft the braves draft a power hitting outfielder or a stud thridbaseman
flange1
November 2nd, 2012
8:02 am
The front office has to be paying attention to what Gattis is going with the bat.
I know they are not thinking about him starting in 2013, but i’ll bet they are thinking about him for 2014.
Even more of a reason that Tori Hunter looks like a good deal for a 1 year or 1 year + an option kind of deal.
The trade for a CF.
Couch Tater
November 2nd, 2012
8:09 am
tater, tell the others.
uga – They’re sick of it. This year, the mainstream media loves Bama, so others here hate my school and my coach. If, they only knew…I had to walk 5 miles each way to grade school, fight rabid raccoons, cross 2 creeks filled with cottonmouth snakes and use a kerosene lamp to study. All the while, dad saved pennies in a mason jar and mama just said, “If, we could just get you to college…”
Well, I barely made it. It fulfilled my mama’s dream.
I’ve learned not to gloat and I still have that mason jar as a reminder. You see, I used that jar to get grain alcohol out of the science lab to make Hunch-Punch. I bragged. The liberal, bra burning, halter-topped, first time away from their Daddy, college girls went wild as hell.
The hangover was massive.
Roll Tide!
richbrave
November 2nd, 2012
8:10 am
SOUTH OF THE BORDER
DOMINICA
ORIENTE STARS
CF FELIX PIE [.256 BA] 0-2, 1 BB, 1 SAC.
MEXICO
HERMOSILLO ORANGES
Lead-off CF TODD CUNNINGHAM [.241 BA] 0-2, 1 R, 1 SO, 1 E [1, fielding].
VENEZUELA
CARACAS LIONS
C J.C. BOSCAN [.429 BA] 2-4
LARA CARDINALS
PH JOSE YEPEZ [.250 BA] 0-1
ZULIA EAGLES
LF EVAN GATTIS [.324 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 HR [5], 2 RBI [16], 1 SO.
DH ERNESTO MEJIA [.315 BA] 0-3, 1 BB, 1 SO.
richbrave
November 2nd, 2012
8:17 am
“……The liberal, bra burning, halter-topped, first time away from their Daddy, college girls went wild as hell…..”
Kinda’ like the conservative, religious, bra-burning, halter-topped, first time away from daddy, college girls went wild as hell ones I knew huh?
ncgary
November 2nd, 2012
8:20 am
it sure is a sorry class of free agents,
it will definitely be surprising what wren pulls out of his hat
trix are for kids
you silly rabbit
richbrave
November 2nd, 2012
8:21 am
I always thought BRUNDAGE would take BC’s slot. An excellent baseball man. He’ll be missed. It was time to go however since he was passed over for the ML managers job.
Couch Tater
November 2nd, 2012
8:22 am
Mom – I know. It was a joke.
…And if, the AJC hadn’t banned you, you could have post the real story.
CB
November 2nd, 2012
8:27 am
Mom was PL? I never knew.
ncgary
November 2nd, 2012
8:28 am
hey rich
you know all that liberal conservative junk is all just kabuki theater?
2 seemingly opposed sides working together behind the scenes
ensuring their agenda is passed
who would have ever thought wresting politics and nascar were all just entertainment
lol
richbrave
November 2nd, 2012
8:28 am
GATTIS, WILLINGHAM, and HEYWARD around the outfield fences. Makes a man want to pull a blanket close and hunker down next to a fire doesn’t it? Scary.
Where’s ROBINSON CANO when you need him. Hey there’s always JACOBY ELLSBURY right? The SOX have JACKIE BRADLEY Jr. coming up soon to replace him.
My get is RF OSCAR TAVARAS from the CARDINALS. Put him in CF. Let’s make a deal. And MIKE OLT at 3B with PRADO in LF.
Couch Tater
November 2nd, 2012
8:31 am
richbrave – I am non-partisan. : )
Couch Tater
November 2nd, 2012
8:33 am
CB – I’ll bet you were (PL) after that special teams performance.
richbrave
November 2nd, 2012
8:34 am
ncgary:
Very cynical take on life in America gary. Very cynical.
I prefer the altruism of one party over another. The good guys in politics who want to give back to America vs. the evil genius’ who want to steal everything not nailed down. Problem is I can’t find one of the good guys, but I have no trouble finding the latter.
ncgary
November 2nd, 2012
8:38 am
exactly rich
ncgary
November 2nd, 2012
8:39 am
i still love america, just can’t stomach the thugs
that have been our so called leaders since the 80’s
CB
November 2nd, 2012
8:39 am
True that,Couch. We suck this year. I root for Panthers and Bobcats too.
Couch Tater
November 2nd, 2012
8:49 am
CB – Could be worse. I saw where Maryland will start a middle linebacker at QB, this week. Four starters down with injury.
Jeff R
November 2nd, 2012
9:02 am
i still love america, just can’t stomach the thugs that have been our so called leaders since the 80’s
Geez, fellas, I thought politics was off-limits here. Did I get that wrong?
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
9:02 am
BAS, saw your hit over the head thing with Efrim.
got mixxed emotions.
Efrrim, you are part of the reason i still check in everyday.
that said if mike minor turns out to be a 2 you might combust.
how about a pitcher with high floor but low ceiling, exceeds someones expectations?
it i possible.
Appreciate the kind words, uga. And I guess I’ll repeat it about Minor – he may very well exceed the industry expectation that he has a ceiling of a #3 starter. Anything is possible in sports. But for some folks to point to the small sample of 3 months and think he’s already done that is foolish, imo. I don’t label pitchers as #2 starters as easily as some do here. Takes a more than 3 months – much more – for me to believe that strongly in them. Same with Meds. Take Matt Harrison for instance – two very strong seasons for the Rangers….still don’t consider him as a #2 starter. Just do not right now. More of a workhorse #3. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
ncgary
November 2nd, 2012
9:04 am
Jay Leno: “And Italy’s former Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi, been sentenced to four years in prison for tax evasion. You know what you get in America for tax evasion? The Republican presidential nomination.”
Jeff R
November 2nd, 2012
9:06 am
Jay Leno: “And Italy’s former Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi, been sentenced to four years in prison for tax evasion. You know what you get in America for tax evasion? The Republican presidential nomination.”
I guess humor doesn’t have to be based in truth. But let’s stick to topics proscribed by our host, DOB, huh?
Dadgum.....
November 2nd, 2012
9:09 am
Saw we got Shaefer back. Kinda ironic don’t you think. Lets see. We got Bourn to play CF here and gave up Shaefer to Houston to play CF there. Now neither are starting CF in Atlanta or Houston. Gotta say that I never saw this play coming. Really don’t understand the signing but it moved such little earth that I don’t think it registered on the Richter scale.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
9:10 am
Lynn G. Henning @Lynn_Henning
Significant news as Tigers chase a corner outfielder: Giants won’t make Angel Pagan qualifying offer. Pagan could be a Tigers bullseye.
Completely agree. Huge news for teams that were considering Pagan. Will now not cost the team it’s first round draft pick.
Lew
November 2nd, 2012
9:11 am
richbrave – Things are going pretty well up here – no damage from the storm and getting cold.
ugabrave – Yeah, I’ve always seen something in Minor I liked more than many did. Guess we’ll see how it turns out, but he sure improved and seemed to have learned an important lesson later last year.
Jeff R
November 2nd, 2012
9:12 am
Don’t great risk for the Braves in claiming Schafer. But I don’t see much upside unless the guy learns to hit at the major league level.
Jeff R
November 2nd, 2012
9:14 am
How about “No” great risk… “More coffee, please!”
Lew
November 2nd, 2012
9:14 am
I wonder if it will make a difference to Pagan whehter he’s offered a CF job or a corner outfield spot?
Jeff R
November 2nd, 2012
9:16 am
I wonder if it will make a difference to Pagan whehter he’s offered a CF job or a corner outfield spot?
CF is the premier outfield position. I would imagine that Pagan would prefer center to the corners, though I know there are other factors that would play into his decision.
Lew
November 2nd, 2012
9:18 am
I’m not sure why they decided to pick up Schafer, but to me it’s kind of like picking up Rodrigo Lopez a couple years back – didn’t cost diddly, probably won’t ever play for the Braves this season except if catastrophe hits, but bound to piss off a lot of fans.
Sometimes I think FW does these moves just to bust chops.. Might have a weired sense of humor or something. Either that or he collects fast, non hitting, defensive minded outfielders like some collect baseball cards.
Bawlmer Brave
November 2nd, 2012
9:18 am
With Gattis hitting the way he is, he’s making a case for a call-up during 2013 and starting in 2014. Of course, those are both projections for a minor leaguer, not based on ANY experience in the majors. I don’t know that it will/should preclude the Braves from looking at 2 year LF options such as Willingham. I think they will/should still try to field the best team they can for THIS year and worry about a glut of options for 2014 when we get to next offseason. Who knows what might happen to, for instance, Willingham and Gattis. At $7m for 2014, Willingham could even be relegated to bench/platoon role if Gattis outplays him, but that is getting into some pretty WILD speculation that nobody can predict that far out.
In a DREAM world, I’d love to see us trade Hanson and Spruill (+ pieces) for Willingham (LF), move Prado to 3B, install Delgado/Teheran in the 5 spot, then see Hamilton’s market drop to the point where we can sign him for 6/$108ish to play CF for this year. I would prefer to get him down to something more in the range of 4/80, but would be willing to go more years and less money as well.
We would have to spell Josh in CF more often than we did with Bourn, but his contribution during the 140 +/- games he plays would sufficiently outweigh the downside, IMO. Whatever we could get offensively out of someone like Schafer during those other 20-something games would be mitigated by the good D he brings.
Then in 2014, if Willingham had a great 2013, we can possibly even still trade Willingham away if we feel Gattis is ready for primetime based on a 2013 call-up and if there are other needs to fill (like C or SP/RP).
Anyhow, I guy can dream.
Jeff R
November 2nd, 2012
9:19 am
Keep in mind that Schafer was dumped by the Astros. The Astros. If I player can’t cut it in Houston…
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
9:23 am
Apparently Detroit’s thinking is that their outfield is so large, they need a good defensive corner outfielder – which would be Pagan. And he can hit #2 behind Austin Jackson. Jackson, Pagan, Cabrera, Fielder, V-Mart, Peralta, Avila, Dirks/Boesch/A. Garcia/, Infante. Pretty darn good.
Clearly, they aren’t too worried about infield defense, though……
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2012
9:34 am
Giants won’t make Angel Pagan qualifying offer
I knew it!
Are you breathing any easier now Ef? Heading into the off-season you had every single free agent pegged with a qual offer. Not gonna happen. Not even with Pagan. Seems even the WS champs don’t think he is worth that much for one year. He’ll be cheap, cheap, cheap!
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2012
9:36 am
Let’s make acquiring Olt priority 1.
TennesseePaul
November 2nd, 2012
9:37 am
they aren’t too worried about infield defense, though
Not one bit. They just made it to the WS. They have two prolific sluggers in Fielder and Cabrera… and V-Mart will be back some day. What ever ball makes it through the infield will be tossed back to the mound and then in the bottom of the innings one of those guys will clock it over the fence.
Sowega Fanatic
November 2nd, 2012
9:38 am
ncgary
November 2nd, 2012
9:04 am
Jay Leno: “And Italy’s former Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi, been sentenced to four years in prison for tax evasion. You know what you get in America for tax evasion? The Republican presidential nomination.”
***************************
HaHa, he meant Obama’s IRS chief.
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2012
9:38 am
Pagan will come at a price way and about what he’ll bring to the club he joins.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
9:41 am
Heading into the off-season you had every single free agent pegged with a qual offer. Not gonna happen.
Shocked that the Giants are not making the offer. But maybe I shouldn’t be surprised given the front office. Not the brightest bunch, imo.
And I don’t care one bit that they have won two of the last three World Series. I still strongly believe Sabean’s general principals are terrible – some of the worst in the industry.
BravesFanInMaine
November 2nd, 2012
9:41 am
How about the rangers trade olt to the braves just for hanson since we got screwed on the Tex deal
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
9:43 am
I’m surprised the Giants haven’t signed Marco Scutaro to a three year, $36 million dollar contract by now………
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
9:44 am
And I still do believe that the following players get offers: Hamilton, Bourn, Upton, Swisher, Ortiz, LaRoche, Lohse, Jackson, Kuroda, and Soriano.
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2012
9:44 am
BravesFanInMaine, that’s not a bad deal to me..it’s only right I would say.
BravesFanInMaine
November 2nd, 2012
9:46 am
haha thanks Arkansas Transplant…. I dont think i will ever be able to let that trade go
Arkansas Transplant
November 2nd, 2012
9:46 am
I can’t believe that Pascual Perez was killed.
Jeff R
November 2nd, 2012
9:47 am
Didn’t LaRoche and Soriano exercise their ends of the mutual option clauses in their contracts and declare their free agencies? So offers will come from their respective clubs as free agents?
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
9:57 am
Correct, Jeff R.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
10:11 am
I broke the blog.
Jeff R
November 2nd, 2012
10:12 am
I think the blog is still functioning.
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2012
10:15 am
And I don’t care one bit that they have won two of the last three World Series. I still strongly believe Sabean’s general principals are terrible – some of the worst in the industry.n — Efrim
Just a hunch here, but I’m betting that right about now, the Giants, their fans and their ownership think that Sabean’s general principals are really, really strong.
Murph
November 2nd, 2012
10:23 am
1. Heyward
2. Prado
3. Hamilton
4. Gattis
5. Freeman
6. Uggla
7. BMac
8. Simmons
That would be the most powerful lineup in the history of… well, history. When healthy.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
10:25 am
Just a hunch here, but I’m betting that right about now, the Giants, their fans and their ownership think that Sabean’s general principals are really, really strong.
Of course you would say that. It’s based off of a small sample of a crapshoot known as the postseason.
Better to be lucky than good, DOB.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
10:28 am
Honestly, with the 16 or 17 balls that bounced the Giants way during the playoffs – enough where Tim friggin McCarver(Tim McCarver!) brought it up on National Television as his lead in to Game 2, how can anyone not see the luck the Giants had. Sure, they capitilized on it just like the Cardinals did the year before. But give me a break on thinking they were the best team in the sport this year. They absolutely were not.
BravesFanInMaine
November 2nd, 2012
10:32 am
Agreed Efrim….. and that one game wild card playoff was a bunch of mud pie!!!!
Shaun
November 2nd, 2012
10:32 am
Efrim, the Giants have been a pretty good team for a while. It’s true that if Brooks Conrad doesn’t make errors or if the Reds or Cardinals find a way to win one more game, they don’t have any World Series wins. I’m with you on the crapshoot thing. But Sabean’s done a fine job.
Perhaps you’ll be surprised to learn that the Giants have at least one quantitative analyst: http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/59830/unknown-hero-helps-make-giants-world-series-champions/
Lew
November 2nd, 2012
10:32 am
“Better to be lucky than good” Yeah, after the fourteen consecutive Division Titles and one WS win, I’d agree with that.
BravesFanInMaine
November 2nd, 2012
10:32 am
Agreed Efrim….. and that one game wild card playoff was a bunch of mud pie!!!!
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
10:36 am
But Sabean’s done a fine job.
There is just a lot of head scratching decisions that have come from him over his tenure. Some good too, but I do not think he is a better GM than Frank Wren, for example – and Wren has no World Series to back himself up with.
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2012
10:36 am
Chipper retired. Bourn likely gone.
We bring back broken down McCann who won’t be playing until May, if at all.
Jordan Schafer, who hit .211 and couldnt stick with the minor league Astros, returns as “insurance”, at a “minimal cost” of course. There are reasons this clown came at a minimal cost.
I feel for the Braves’ starting pitching and the lack of run support they get. With Uggla (.226), McCann (.230) and Schafer (.211) at the back of the lineup, this team is looking
at 3rd place at best in 2013. — Reality Check
Awesome. We barely turned the page to November and already we have a leader in the doom-and-gloom brigade. Congrats, sir.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USHHQRodF88
Tumbledown
November 2nd, 2012
10:37 am
Enter your comments here
DAP
November 2nd, 2012
10:37 am
efrim I still strongly believe Sabean’s general principals are terrible – some of the worst in the industry.
what are his general principles? are you talking about drafting strategy, or what he values in players?
Tumbledown
November 2nd, 2012
10:38 am
Yeah, what are Sabean’s general principles? From this simpleton’s viewpoint, they look somewhat effective, luck or crapshoots nothwithstanding.
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2012
10:38 am
Honestly, with the 16 or 17 balls that bounced the Giants way during the playoffs – enough where Tim friggin McCarver(Tim McCarver!) brought it up on National Television as his lead in to Game 2, how can anyone not see the luck the Giants had. Sure, they capitilized on it just like the Cardinals did the year before. But give me a break on thinking they were the best team in the sport this year. They absolutely were not. — Efrim
And honestly, all that means zero next to the two World Series trophies they have in the past three years, and the 99.5 percent capacity attendance they had this season. I don’t mean to get into an argument with you about this, but the recent Giants have become a wildly successful franchise in every measuring stick that matters.
bravesfaninnc
November 2nd, 2012
10:40 am
CF Schafer
LF Prado
RF Heyward
1B Freeman
2B Uggla
3B Francisco
C McCann
SS Simmons
Looks like we’re all set. Bring on 2013!
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2012
10:44 am
bravesfaninnc: Thanks for that lineup based on who’s in the organization on Nov. 2. That’s extremely relevant stuff.
Can you please go through the other teams in the National League and give us their lineups based on who’s signed as of today? Because it’s important, and we all need to know. A month from now, and especially two or three months from now, it’ll be even more important what the lineup would’ve looked like back on Nov. 2. So we thank you for that information.
Jeff R
November 2nd, 2012
10:45 am
Luck or breaks or however you wish to term it, plays a role in just about anything. Have the Giants had some breaks along the way, sure. Is their success solely – or even largely – attributable to luck? I don’t think so. I think Giants’ pitching is at the core of their success.
If I read correctly, the 2012 champs had only one carryover position player from the 2010 championship team. if I recall, that was Buster Posey.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
10:46 am
And honestly, all that means zero next to the two World Series trophies they have in the past three years, and the 99.5 percent capacity attendance they had this season
Then I guess the three best General Managers in the National League are Brian Sabean, Ruben Amaro Jr. and John Mozeliak because they have strong attendence numbers and have World Series rings.
what are his general principles? are you talking about drafting strategy, or what he values in players?
Value in players, mostly. If I list his free agent signings, then I will hear “well, every GM has bad and good signings”. So it’s pointless to argue.
I guess I just disagree that “All that matters is World Series titles – therefore Sabean is a better GM than Wren, as is Ruben Amaro Jr.”
Hugo Z Hackenbush
November 2nd, 2012
10:46 am
Let’s see…12 winning seasons out of 16 during his tenure, two championships…but results don’t matter, only the guy’s “principles.” Ah, the arrogance of the long-distance blogger…
Murph
November 2nd, 2012
10:50 am
People on the blog seem to be turning against each other at a record rate this offseason… not the usual regulars vs idiots, but instead it’s been regulars vs regulars.
I’m not liking this trend.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
10:53 am
I’m not liking this trend.
It has seem like the trend recently.
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
10:54 am
But give me a break on thinking they were the best team in the sport this year. They absolutely were not.
i understand where this is coming from, but i am so ready for braves not to be best team and still have some postseason success and hopefully a WS win.
as i’ve stated before, if one really subscribes to the view that postseason is all crap, why even have it? just design a model that tells you which team was best after regular season and give them the trophy. just make sure that the model covers ALL of the tremendous number of variables that affect the result of every individual game e.g. team A may have better record against team B, compared to team C’s record against team B but they may have missed facing a good player due to injury etc.
i would much rather give credit to a lesser team that may have gotten some breaks but was also able to take advantage of them to win in postseason,instead of laying down to multiple superior teams, especially twice in 3 years, than deriding them for just being dumb lucky.
i’m even tired of this argument now. if schafer starts in CF out of spring, no EI for me.
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2012
10:56 am
I guess I just disagree that “All that matters is World Series titles – therefore Sabean is a better GM than Wren, as is Ruben Amaro Jr.” — Efrim
No, it’s not all that matters. But World Series titles, playoff appearances, and 99.5 percent capacity? Yeah, that pretty much overshadows what another team’s fans might think of Sabean’s “principles.”
I wonder if Billy Beane from across the bay could have done better in Sabean’s shoes?
bravesfaninnc
November 2nd, 2012
10:56 am
DOB – it was a joke. Wow, I guess the stress of covering the Braves robs one of a sense of humor.
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2012
10:57 am
DOB – it was a joke. Wow, I guess the stress of covering the Braves robs one of a sense of humor.
Yep, I’m humorless. Humorless David, my girl likes to call me.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
10:57 am
i would much rather give credit to a lesser team that may have gotten some breaks but was also able to take advantage of them to win in postseason,instead of laying down to multiple superior teams, especially twice in 3 years, than deriding them for just being dumb lucky.
I disagree. I’d like to eliminate the playoffs entirely.
Lew
November 2nd, 2012
10:58 am
I’ll say this about the whole situation – if we won two out of three World Series Titles, George_George might even accept Fredi as manager.
Lew
November 2nd, 2012
10:59 am
Then again……..
Nowhere man
November 2nd, 2012
10:59 am
Mac can add comeback player of the year to his long list of trophies.
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
10:59 am
not the usual regulars vs idiots, but instead it’s been regulars vs regulars.
hmm…may be the idiots were right..regulars are actual idiots…
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
11:00 am
But World Series titles, playoff appearances, and 99.5 percent capacity attendance? Yeah, that pretty much overshadows what another team’s fans might think of Sabean’s “principles.”
That statement makes me think that it really is all that matters.
DAP
November 2nd, 2012
11:02 am
When it comes to winning the world series, it certainly helps if things go your way, but a “bad” team doesnt make it to the world series, so its hard to complain to much. its not like the astros won it all. the giants won 94 games. they had a nice season.
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
11:04 am
Humorless David, my girl likes to call me.
i’ve got the diagnosis DOB – too many girls beat the humor out of you…
Jeff R
November 2nd, 2012
11:04 am
People on the blog seem to be turning against each other at a record rate this offseason… not the usual regulars vs idiots, but instead it’s been regulars vs regulars.
I don’t think the blog has hit “Lord of the Flies” level… yet.
Murph
November 2nd, 2012
11:04 am
Do the Braves have a quantitative guy on their FO staff? If not, they should.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
11:05 am
I wonder if Billy Beane from across the bay could have done better in Sabean’s shoes?
And again, of course you would make that sort of statement.
But yes, I do believe with near $80 – $100 million more in payroll to work with, he’d have better regular season Win/Loss records. Difficult to know how his teams would do in the playoffs though, since I don’t think he carries a lucky charm of some sort around.
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
11:06 am
if we won two out of three World Series Titles, George_George might even accept Fredi as manager.
that should buy Fredi time till next season’s AS break..if braves don’t have perfect record then, Fredi would be back in doghouse
cricket
November 2nd, 2012
11:07 am
Do the Braves have a quantitative guy on their FO staff? If not, they should.
off course they do. who do you think has a badge with access to the basement?
DAP
November 2nd, 2012
11:08 am
DOB Humorless David, my girl likes to call me.
thats a little clunky. she needs to work on it.
DAP
November 2nd, 2012
11:09 am
DOB, how about “Staid Dave”? see what she thinks.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
November 2nd, 2012
11:10 am
In 2010, the difference between the payrolls of the Giants and A’s was about 38 mil, not 80 to 100.
David O'Brien
November 2nd, 2012
11:10 am
Humorless David, my girl likes to call me.
thats a little clunky. she needs to work on it. — DAP
What can I say? She’s humorless, like me. And we’re not as clever as some folks.
Efrim
November 2nd, 2012
11:10 am
Do the Braves have a quantitative guy on their FO staff? If not, they should.
Don’t know if I’d consider him that way, but John Coppollella seems like he likes stats a bit more than most and he’s an Assisstant GM now.