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TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
2:41 pm
I expect the Braves to end up with some 89 octane players.
The additions I’d like to see the Braves get fall into that category.
That’s a great lineup BravePack. Now just imagine Bourjos in CF. Man, that’d be a defense. Just about no fly ball would hit the outfield turf.
cricket
November 1st, 2012
2:42 pm
over/ under in which year of his 3-yr contract will Redmond be fired -
i say middle of 2nd year
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
2:43 pm
That’s a pretty good line-up…offensively and defensively.
I don’t think you really, really want Junior hitting 4. If he’s the way they go, he has to hit lower in this particular team’s lineup.
David O'Brien
November 1st, 2012
2:43 pm
Statement from John Schuerholz on Pascual Perez:
“We were shocked to hear the news of Pascual Perez’ death earlier today. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family during the aftermath of this tragic event. Pascual left his mark with the Braves organization and will always be remembered fondly by Braves fans.”
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
2:43 pm
not just going on the cute little stats we like.
You have your cute little stats, others have their cute little stats. But if you really wanted to stir things up, you could have just strongly implied you had engaged in coitus with several bloggers mothers.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
2:43 pm
Re BPs lineup: I’d put Uggla ahead of Mac though. Takes more walks on average, w/ better HR potential. Plus, it keeps the L/R thing going
flange1
November 1st, 2012
2:44 pm
I wish we could get Upton. Gordon would be nice too.
Not sure we have enough bullets for those 2.
I guess I would like to see Tori Hunter in Left on a short term deal and Denard Span in center.
We just match up too well with the Twins.
Also like to see another trade getting a 3B or LF in A+ or AA that is a masher.
Tumbledown
November 1st, 2012
2:45 pm
Just to be clear, it sounds like 89 octane is synonymous with premium-lite. I think we got a working scale now to properly evaluate any new acquisitions.
Murph
November 1st, 2012
2:46 pm
Sign BJ Upton, trade for Justin Upton…
1. Prado
2. Upton
3. Heyward
4. Upton
5. Freeman
6. Uggla
7. BMac
8. Simmons
Shaun
November 1st, 2012
2:46 pm
DAP, Chipper actually had relatively low RBI numbers. He finished 9th in RBI in 2003 and that was the only time he finished in the top 10. Check out how many times he finished in the top 10 in things like on-base and slugging.
Would you be comfortable with a writer leaving Chipper off his Hall of Fame ballot because he never led his league in RBI, never finished in the top 8, and finished in the top 10 only once, even though he was a middle-of-the-order hitter? I would imagine most of us would want this guy’s voting privileges immediately revoked. Yet this line of thinking is very real.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
2:47 pm
But if you really wanted to stir things up, you could have just strongly implied you had engaged in coitus with several bloggers mothers.
Pretty much on the same level of credibility as most of Shaun’s posts.
So, probably not that much stirring.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
2:48 pm
.278/.357/.475/.832- Upton’s career line. Similar to Mac’s, slightly better than Ugglas, and still ahead of Freeman and Heyward. All guys who have or could bat 4th in this lineup.
Plus, based on patterns, he’s due for a .500+ SLG, near .900 OPS year.
cricket
November 1st, 2012
2:50 pm
The Angels’ top offseason priority is finding a way to re-sign Greinke (“huge priority,” one Angels person said).
The Yankees have interest in Torii Hunter, a source said. Hunter is unlikely to get a qualifying offer, so he wouldn’t cost a draft pick.
— Mark Feinsand (@BloggingBombers) November 1, 2012
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
2:50 pm
Also like to see another trade getting a 3B or LF in A+ or AA that is a masher.
Would be nice if Hanson had enough value for us to make a trade like that. Maybe we keep him til June/July, he improves, and we can get that then.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
2:51 pm
This is exactly the type of thought I’m referring to. Heyward hit .269 in 2012 yet was one of the top 10-15 players in the game.
And was only average in not making outs. Did you not read the post for context, or do you just not care what was in the post?
Shaun
November 1st, 2012
2:51 pm
You have your cute little stats, others have their cute little stats.
The problem is assuming equivalence. Not all stats are equal in terms of measuring and relating to baseball performance. That’s the issue. You can’t just pull a stat out your back side and pretend that because it’s a number that it actually measures or relates to baseball performance. Yet, that’s what folks do when they bring up RBI and pitcher wins and focus too heavily on RBI and the like to judge this player or that one.
That’s the problem here. Not all “cute little stats” are equal. Just because it’s a stat and is measuring something doesn’t mean it is measuring and relating to positive aspects of baseball performance, aspects that help increase a team’s chances to win.
DAP
November 1st, 2012
2:53 pm
Chipper actually had relatively low RBI numbers
no he didnt, shaun. thats simply false. chipper has over 1600 RBI, the most ever by any 3rd baseman. how can you, with a straight face, say that chipper had relatively low RBI numbers?
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
2:53 pm
The problem is assuming equivalence.
Oh sure. Every mother thinks they have the cuties kids, but many times, the kids just have a face only a mother could love.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
2:56 pm
Plus, based on patterns, he’s due for a .500+ SLG, near .900 OPS year.
Excuse me? What is he, on a five-year-plan, LOL? He hasn’t slugged .460 or better in five years, he hasn’t had an OBP of even .340 in four years, he hasn’t even been in the same zipcode of .900 in six years.
Come on, man. He might be a guy who could regain some form by not having to be a star on this team, but a middle-order savior, he ain’t. Not this offseason.
David O'Brien
November 1st, 2012
2:57 pm
Phil Niekro on Pascual Perez: “One thing for sure, he was a real competitor, he really was. He really competed as hard as he could…. It’s a sad, sad story. I really enjoyed him. He was a good friend of mine. I’ll certainly keep him in my prayers, for sure.”
DAP
November 1st, 2012
2:57 pm
shaun a writer leaving Chipper off his Hall of Fame ballot because he never led his league in RBI, never finished in the top 8, and finished in the top 10 only once, even though he was a middle-of-the-order hitter? I would imagine most of us would want this guy’s voting privileges immediately revoked. Yet this line of thinking is very real.
there is a writer leaving chipper off his HOF ballot because of RBI? first of all, how do you know this? second, chipper has the most RBI of any 3rd baseman ever. why would someone leave him off because of RBI?
Shaun
November 1st, 2012
2:58 pm
Only in the sense that excellence in the skill of making safe contact leads to excellence in not making outs. You simply aren’t going to find too many of the “best players” who are career .250 guys.
ncscoots, I was referring to the part about the best players not hitting .250.
And actually Heyward was better than league average at not making outs in 2012.
Pretty much on the same level of credibility as most of Shaun’s posts.
So, probably not that much stirring.
I want everyone to take note as to who is getting mean-spirited and not making this an honest and respectful debate here. This is a sure sign that you acknowledge that you’ve lost the debate and have no were else to go in terms of reason, honesty and respect.
RC
November 1st, 2012
2:58 pm
no he didnt, shaun. thats simply false. chipper has over 1600 RBI, the most ever by any 3rd baseman. how can you, with a straight face, say that chipper had relatively low RBI numbers?
Because when you play for 19 years you can have the most of something while never accumulating it at a very high rate?
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
3:02 pm
This is a sure sign that you acknowledge that you’ve lost the debate and have no were else to go in terms of reason, honesty and respect.
Perhaps when you stop thinking in terms of “winning” and “losing” and care more about the free exchange of ideas, you’ll figure out something from this forum. You might even learn to reason, understand honesty, and gain a measure of respect.
cricket
November 1st, 2012
3:02 pm
has Mac been properly trained for this?
Last weekend, Oxford United midfielder Adam Chapman nearly missed United’s 3-1 over Wycombe because of an injury he suffered while trying to feed his baby the night before.
As the story goes on Friday night, Chapman was preparing some hot milk for his little son but accidentally forgot to tighten the bottle properly.
Adam then attempted to shake the bottle to cool the contents down but the lid flew off and the boiling milk went all over his t-shirt. He was taken to the hospital for examination and released with the burnt nipple injury.
RC
November 1st, 2012
3:02 pm
Oh, and Chipper finished top 10 in the league in RBI exactly once – 2003, with 106 batted in.
BravePack(FreeFan)
November 1st, 2012
3:03 pm
TOBF
Yeah I would flip flop Freeman and BJ Upton as well but I know how Fredi likes to keep that L/R thing going in the line-up. I like Bourjos as well but I figured most want a little more power out of a RH bat so I decided on BJ Upton. I really like Gordon for this team if Wren can pry him from KC. I know it’s a shot in the dark but in Wren I trust. Also, like I said I would rather have BJ’s brother Justin but that seems even more of a long shot than Gordon. Someone mentioned Gordon has excellent numbers leading off so if I was Wren I would go all out to get him as his big trade.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
3:07 pm
Miami Beach
Regarding Wright, I would agree it would be a huge longshot to get him. But just because the Mets are trying to sign him doesn’t necessarily mean he wants to stay there long term. That’s kinda why I was saying that if I were FW I’d stay in close contact with the Mets (and the Padres).
old man
I see your point. And it’s a good one. Somebody was saying a day or two ago that Gattis had missed out on the opportunity to grow his baseball skills in his early twenties. But my thinking is that while he missed out on improving in his early 20’s, what’s wrong with improving in your mid 20’s? Nothing in my mind, except that you just potentially shorten your overall career.
But today, I really am not thinking about when Gattis is 31 or 32. I’m thinking about when he is 27 and 28 and what he can do for me THEN.
DAP
November 1st, 2012
3:07 pm
RC Because when you play for 19 years you can have the most of something while never accumulating it at a very high rate?
i know youre joking. i just know it.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
3:09 pm
RC
I’ve heard it somewhere that Boss Man Jr doesn’t profile as a long term CF’er. His D is not quite up to what we are accustomed to. But I don’t have first hand knowledge of that either.
old man
November 1st, 2012
3:09 pm
BravePack(FreeFan)
I like Bourjos and Willingham.
But BJ Upton and Gordon would thrill me too.
Shaun
November 1st, 2012
3:09 pm
DAP, I’m talking in terms of the line of thinking that would leave Chipper off the ballot. When it comes to Hall of Fame voting of course some voters are going to brush aside that Chipper never finished that high in the RBI rankings because of his career total.
But there are plenty of writers who leave great middle-of-the-order hitters off their ballot if they don’t drive in enough runs to their liking.
Oh sure. Every mother thinks they have the cuties kids, but many times, the kids just have a face only a mother could love.
The problem is that certain stats relate to and measure baseball performance better than others, and it’s not an opinion. That’s fact.
It’s not that folks pop out certain stats and find them more cutesie than others. It’s that some stats are better than others. It’s not a subjective thing, like mothers thinking their kids are cuter than others. It’s objective that stats like wRC+ and wOBA and OPS+ measure and relate to offensive performance and offensive value better than the Triple Crown stats, for example. It’s not a matter of picking the stats that you like better. Some actually are better. That’s what gets lost amongst many baseball fans. It should be a matter of, “well, this stat seems nice and I like it, so I’ll go with this one to make my judgements.” No. Some stats are objectively better than others. It’s not a matter of going with the stats you like and the ones that seem cutesie and nice and the ones that you or I like. It’s a matter of going with the ones that relate to and measure baseball performance.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
3:10 pm
Scoots–
I believe he was talking about “Justin” Upton there…not BJ
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
3:11 pm
This is a sure sign that you acknowledge that you’ve lost the debate
Wait a sec here… the “my stats are cuter than your stats” was a legit debate you were offering? Really? And you thought you “won” that one? Are we going by who scored “points” or who the rest of the planet thought won?
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
3:12 pm
I think flange and Murph have had the best ideas so far today…
Not that I don’t appreciate yours too BP, but BJ Upton in the cleanup spot seems like a recipe for disaster….although I’m not sure we match up well to have both Span and Hunter when Torii has lost a few notches off his power stroke….
I could see a Torii Hunter/Justin Upton combo being a really good one where we add 2 solid RH hitters, but once again I go back to….
What can we offer the DBacks that could not only entice them to make a deal w/ us, but also beat the competition
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
3:13 pm
Are we going by who scored “points” or who the rest of the planet thought won?
Need a CNN Poll.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
3:15 pm
Whoops, I had the wrong Upton.
BJ? I’d rather not have that. No pleasure (!) when I see his stats. Apparently he has a bad attitude at times too. I’d rather trade Delgado for Willingham and see Bourjos in CF
DS1
November 1st, 2012
3:15 pm
With only 5 days left till the election, do as they do in Chicago. Vote early and vote often!
Shaun
November 1st, 2012
3:15 pm
Perhaps when you stop thinking in terms of “winning” and “losing” and care more about the free exchange of ideas, you’ll figure out something from this forum. You might even learn to reason, understand honesty, and gain a measure of respect.
ncscoots, when the idea is expressed that picking which stats to look at and pay attention to is a matter of subjectivity and opinion and picking which ones you like instead of a matter of which ones are actually telling, which ones relate to and measure baseball performance, it’s appropriate to think in terms of winning and losing. Viewing stats like scores of a gymnastics or diving performance is clearly losing and is wrong. Viewing stats as measures of performance and paying attention to the ones that actually do this and that actually relate to baseball performance is clearly winning and is right.
RC
November 1st, 2012
3:15 pm
RC Because when you play for 19 years you can have the most of something while never accumulating it at a very high rate?
i know youre joking. i just know it.
Kind of. I think using the word “relatively” gives me a little leyway into Shaun’s thinking. “Relative” to the era in which he played, Chipper Jones didn’t have as many RBI as some other players. Hell, Andruw had more RBI in ATL than Chipper did during those years (excluding 1996 when Andruw had 106 at-bats). But I think we are all clear that Chipper was a MUCH better hitter than Andruw ever was, ESPECIALLY during those years.
Chipper himself actually alluded to this in an interview this year. I don’t remember the exact quotes, but he said something along the lines of “if I had been willing to swing the bat a little more earlier in my career, I probably could have gotten 3,000 hits or had a higher RBI total. But that’s not the way I was raised to player the game.”
So while it’s true that Chipper leads all 3b in RBI, at least part of that is due to his longevity (and sustained excellence over that time), not necessarily that he was the best of his contemporaries at getting RBI (because based on the year-by-year results, he wasn’t).
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
3:18 pm
I think everyone is geting pretty close in terms of what we should look at though…
1) FA player who will more than likely end up overpaid
Leads to:
2) A trade piece for the other opening who will probably cost an arm and a leg BUT will fit into our budget at a lower value (at least in terms of 2013)
Who we end up w/ in one spot may very well dictate who we end up with in the other
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
3:18 pm
Snap polls… one must keep sample size in mind. might be best to wait to see he gets the “bounce” in the sliding daily national poll. Plus, wish such, there is a lot more data to “dig deeper” into… and we all enjoy a good conversation about “digging deeper” into the “evidence.”
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
3:19 pm
And the Braves have just returned to Bizarro World….This just in:
The Braves have claimed Jordan Schafer off waivers from the Astros
Murph
November 1st, 2012
3:19 pm
A risk to sign, sure. A panic move. Nah. You’re just overreacting buddy.
I’m not sure how having a differing opinion equates to overreacting… or that anything I’ve typed fits the definition of the word, but whatever. Semantics.
The team tried and failed to sign Burnett, they tried and failed to trade for Peavy, so they turned to option 3 or 4 and went after Lowe. They had to be sure not to miss out on him, so they threw $60mil contract at him knowing it was going to get the job done and get him signed.
Panic and desperation come to mind way before the word “stubbornness” in regards to that move. Coming off a 90 loss season with a rotation of Jo Jo Reyes and Jorge Campillo as 2 of your top starters… how could you not panic?
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
3:20 pm
See guys….no need for the Bourjos talk….we just brought back a non hitting CF option
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
3:21 pm
The Braves announced that they claimed outfielder Jordan Schafer off of waivers from the Astros.
OH MAN!!!
I’d rather him than Biff…… as the 5th outfielder.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
3:21 pm
might be best to wait to see he gets the “bounce” in the sliding daily national poll.
that would be a dead-cat bounce, in this instance, LOL.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
3:21 pm
All our problems are solved!!!
Logan Schafer for CF next year!
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
3:21 pm
D@MNIT! Sunavabitch! #&*!
This is a terrible off-season.
Hello “premium player”.
#@&*!
DS1
November 1st, 2012
3:23 pm
Murph
Whatever. That’s last weeks’ conversation already.
CB
November 1st, 2012
3:23 pm
OK,we only need one more premium player.
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
3:23 pm
I can’t believe this is how bad he has been in near 900 PA’s at the major league level: .221/.305/.301
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
3:23 pm
as the 5th outfielder.
… in the Antarctic spring league.
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
3:25 pm
Perhaps Wren was inspired by Payne’s debate “wins” and decided this was a great opportunity to “win” the trade by re-acquiring the “cornerstone” player off waivers.
nolie
November 1st, 2012
3:25 pm
CSN Philly’s Jim Salisbury has heard that Michael Bourn is seeking a contract worth close to $100 million.
I said it first right here
DS1
November 1st, 2012
3:25 pm
Schafer is a better bet as a 5th outfielder than Biff. But not much better at this rate.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
3:26 pm
Schafer’s back! So not only did we steal Bourn, but we get back the main piece in that deal.
Premium player #1! Opening Day CF starter.
Nah, would rather have Bourjos. But he’s a good 5th OF. No bat licking
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
3:26 pm
On second thought, maybe we ought to try and get Bourjos, so that we can talk all year and write a book about how you can’t steal 1b…
Gary O.
November 1st, 2012
3:26 pm
Murph,
The Upton brothers in the OF would be an interesting scenario. And maybe BJ will reduce his asking price if he gets to play with his brother. But I still see his salary in the 3-5 year range, $8 – $10 mil per.
But given his numbers last year (.246/.298/.454/.752), there is reason for pause. He could replace some of Bourn’s base stealing, and add some power, but he would also replace some of Bourn’s strikeouts BJ has struck out over 160 times the last 3 years.
I definitely would not give him the kind of money he is looking for.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
3:26 pm
I really thought the deal to Houston would give him a chance to shine, but all he did was K.
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
3:27 pm
Schafer is a better bet as a 5th outfielder than Biff. But not much better at this rate.
Schafer should be dropping out of the bottom of the porn industry by now. He’s actually worse than Biff and I’m displeased with Biff.
What’s next? Is Wren going to bring JoJo Reyes back in the fold?
Murph
November 1st, 2012
3:27 pm
Whatever. That’s last weeks’ conversation already.
You’re overreacting.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
3:27 pm
D@MNIT! Sunavabitch! #&*!
It’s terrible of me, but I like this move, for no other reason than to poke the TennPaul bear, LOL.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
3:28 pm
See guys….no need for the Bourjos talk….we just brought back a non hitting CF option
Schafer never hit… Bourjos did.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
3:28 pm
Quick! Everybody…..PUT AWAY YOUR PEANUT BUTTER CUPS!!
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
3:28 pm
I know this Schafer bit is nothing in the grand scheme (at least I am clinging to that hope), but the mere idea that he is a Brave again really burns me up. I’m not happy to see him anywhere in the organization.
phil
November 1st, 2012
3:28 pm
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
3:19 pm
And the Braves have just returned to Bizarro World….This just in:
The Braves have claimed Jordan Schafer off waivers from the Astros
*****************
LOLOLOL….
Sweet!
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
3:29 pm
TP-
One name for you….
BUDDY CARLYLE…..
RC
November 1st, 2012
3:29 pm
The Braves have claimed Jordan Schafer off waivers from the Astros
Ahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Nothing to do here but laugh. Simply awesome.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
3:29 pm
Hey wait…I got it…
The next premium player for LF….
Charles Thomas
flange1
November 1st, 2012
3:29 pm
Interesting on Schaffffer.
RIP Brad Armstrong.
Will be interesting if the Rangers and Angels get in a bidding war for Zach. That would push him way out of the Braves range and it would be nice to see these 2 rivals wage war over a player.
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
3:30 pm
Now that Bourn’s a free agent Schafer provides the Braves with some insurance in center field. Atlanta originally selected him in the third round of the 2005 draft.- MLB Trade Rumors
I think it’s more he is insurance for Jose Constanza…..
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
3:30 pm
Boscan a free agent too. Hopefully not resigned and used Ross’ backup.
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
3:31 pm
P-Town, never had an issue with Buddy Carlyle. He was never hyped by anyone in the org, other than to say that he’s a really nice guy. He had a solid story as well.
Schafer is the devil.
Roman Gal
November 1st, 2012
3:32 pm
#@&*!
…and our camaraderie returns. (smile)
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
3:32 pm
I think it’s more he is insurance for Jose Constanza…..
In case Biff chokes on a splinter.
Shaun
November 1st, 2012
3:32 pm
In the second paragraph of my 3:09 pm, the word “MVP ballot” should be in there. That’s what I was referring to. Plenty of voters leave guys off their MVP ballot if they are middle-of-the-order hitters without enough RBI to their liking, without any regard to baseball performance.
RC, that’s exactly right. Chipper was not a great RBI guy in terms of being one of the best RBI guys in any given season. Far from it, in fact, having never finished in the top 8, even though he was in fact a middle-of-the-order hitter. This should at least alert people to the meaninglessness of RBI as an accurate measure of anything related to a player’s performance.
Speaking of elections and snap polls, etc., without getting in to which side we fall, anyone see Nate Silver (of FiveThirtyEight.com) challenge Joe Scarborough (of MSNBC) to bet on the presidential election? Apparently Scarborough finds Silver’s model to be a “joke” and thinks he’s biased. It all reminds me of the sabermetric versus anti-sabermetric back-and-forth.
For those of you who don’t know Silver (of PECOTA fame) uses a detailed statistical model that takes in to account numerous factors, including polling and economic data, to project and give probabilities on who will win the presidential election and other elections. Silver’s model has Obama as a pretty heavy favorite. Scarborough made some comment, something like that it’s a “joke” to think it’s not a close race and that Silver is an ideologue. So Silver challenged him to put his money where his mouth is, the loser would donate $1,000 to the Red Cross.
Kind of reminds me of what happens on here: The folks who want to go on just some very minimal, very basic information to confirm their opinion versus the folks who want to factor in as much meaningful stuff as possible to arrive at what is likely and how likely it is.
phil
November 1st, 2012
3:32 pm
And I, for one, shall not be satisfied until we announce that McLouth is also safely back in the fold….
RC
November 1st, 2012
3:33 pm
No harm in picking up Schafer. Now that Wren has his Plan E in place, he can move forward from there.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
3:33 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Schafer will fit as a fourth or fifth outfielder. Defense and legs could be beneficial off of the bench
4th?????
Talking Chop @gondeee
Somewhere Jose Constanza is weeping…
Keep licking that bat, boy.
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
3:33 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Schafer will fit as a fourth or fifth outfielder. Defense and legs could be beneficial off of the bench
He’ll have to battle the bat licker for that spot!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
3:34 pm
keithlaw @keithlaw
As long as they’re not claiming he’s their new CF “@mlbtraderumors: Braves Claim Jordan Schafer http://bit.ly/VfouES #mlb”
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
3:34 pm
Hello Roman Gal. Hello.
cricket
November 1st, 2012
3:34 pm
Need a CNN Poll.
isn’t Zogby a cuter poll?
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
3:34 pm
Schafer is the devil.
Oh, please play well in ST, Jordan. Please, please, please. Don’t deprive me of this a moment sooner than you absolutely must.
Murph
November 1st, 2012
3:35 pm
Brilliant move by Wren. Sends a message to Boras that we don’t need Bourn anymore, so his client better lower his price if he wants to stay (I was giggling the whole time I typed that line), keeps that war chest of $25mil intact, and ensures that the team gets zero production out of CF.
I’m liking the drama of this offseason already.
David O'Brien
November 1st, 2012
3:35 pm
Just a waiver claim, folks. Nothing that affects the budget whatsoever. But let’s count how many here make it out to be some huge mistake or gamble….
Anyway, yes, Braves claimed CF Jordan Schafer off waivers from Astros. Just a depth move, gives them another guy who can play center field and still has good speed and fielding ability, developing as a hitter and no risk acquisition. They also outrighted three off 40-man roster: pitchers Erik Cordier & Robert Fish and catcher J.C. Boscan.
Boscan elected free agency instead of outright, as he’s done in past. Braves likely to re-sign him again as a minor league free agent.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
3:35 pm
So now, we traded Schafer, Oberholtzer, Abreu, and some other no-name for 1.5 years of Bourn, a top40 pick, and Schafer again!
DS1
November 1st, 2012
3:35 pm
If Josh Hamilton hit right handed, I’d overpay for him for the next 5 years.
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
3:36 pm
This p!sses me off something fierce. I’m off to the bar.
cricket
November 1st, 2012
3:36 pm
As long as they’re not claiming he’s their new CF
he’s not new, he’s reclaimed
nolie
November 1st, 2012
3:38 pm
they noticed that Roman Gal came back to the blog and wanted to reward her for it….
Roman Gal
November 1st, 2012
3:38 pm
10Paul-
Hello. evil laugh
CB
November 1st, 2012
3:38 pm
Can’t wait to read Wren’s press statement about Schafer. lol
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
3:38 pm
He was never hyped by anyone in the org, other than to say that he’s a really nice guy.
TenneseePaul hates hype like I hate soft tossing LHP’s.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
3:38 pm
This p!sses me off something fierce. I’m off to the bar.
Drinks are on me, buddy!
Lew
November 1st, 2012
3:41 pm
Batting average and RBI apprently mean nothing, but I sure would like to see a Braves team with eight hitting .300 or better and four or five (at least) with 100 RBI. Like to see a few 20 game winners, too.
nolie
November 1st, 2012
3:41 pm
what about picking up Schafer could possibly p1ss off folks so much??
RC
November 1st, 2012
3:41 pm
So now, we traded Schafer, Oberholtzer, Abreu, and some other no-name for 1.5 years of Bourn, a top40 pick, and Schafer again!
Well, you also have to take into account the salaries paid, and the service time accrued, but yeah, pretty much.
phil
November 1st, 2012
3:41 pm
Could be beneficial….but won’t be.
Don’t forget that part, Bowman.