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CB
November 1st, 2012
11:04 am
Bye Bye Bourn.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
11:07 am
The fact that he didn’t say over 100M says to me that they’re thinking the market for Mike isn’t quite going to shape up like they assumed it would….
Weren’t they originally going after a Carl Crawford like deal?
Jeff R
November 1st, 2012
11:07 am
Didn’t Uggla get bigger in the upper body last offseason? I know it’s hard to tell, considering that he’s so Popeye, to start with. Maybe he trims some upper body bulk this year, comes back with a light-speed swing, and proceeds to monsterize NL pitching.
I’m thinking he knocks off the weight training and tries Pilates and yoga. Might “center” Uggla, too.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
11:08 am
BTW, for me, if we’re paying that kind of money for 1 guy, I’d rather it be Greinke or Hamilton…
Could be wrong, but just sayin….
Jeff R
November 1st, 2012
11:10 am
Wren’s not offering Bourn anything close to $100 million – unless he’s smoking wacky weed.
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
11:10 am
I think I’d seriously consider giving Bourn four years, $48 million – which is exactly half of what he’s probably seeking. I have a hard time seeing Wren wasting too much time negotiationg with Boras – who likes to take his free agents deep into the offseason anyway. The entire situation just seems so not Frank Wren.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
11:11 am
Well, if he’s angling for 6/$96MM, would he sneer at 5/$75MM? I think the six years is dreamland, frankly.
cricket
November 1st, 2012
11:13 am
thanks for the link DOB..now i’m a fan of all Perez’s, including the cows..
“He should win more,” says Valerio, “but he only pitch three games.”
Five decisions in three games?
“One was a tie.”
.
.
Two RBIs in a 1-0 game?
“He good, no?” says Valerio.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
11:14 am
Efrim-
No way Bourn settles for 4 years if anyone gives him 6….frankly with him, I think its more about the years than total cash…
Simply because by the time he gets to his next deal he will probably be hitting .250 slugging .350 and stealing 15 bases a year….
flange1
November 1st, 2012
11:15 am
6-$96?
WOW…..
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
11:17 am
WOW…..
Gotta start tall if you don’t want to end small.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
11:20 am
Six years, $96 million. Wouldn’t be surprised if some team overpaid him to almost that amount.
That’s not all that bad. Still 2mil under the max price that some wanted to pay.
4years, 36-40mil was my max. Don’t mind getting the draft pick while someone else over pays.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
11:21 am
BTW, for me, if we’re paying that kind of money for 1 guy, I’d rather it be Greinke or Hamilton…
Or? Why the or? Only 1 of those players is likely to continue their performance (and possibly get better) over the next 4-5 years.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
11:24 am
consider giving Bourn four years, $48 million…4years, 36-40mil was my max
I’m not sure that would even get a much lesser player than Bourn. On the FA market, anyway.
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
11:29 am
I don’t think Wren should go near five years, $75 million for Bourn….
flange1
November 1st, 2012
11:29 am
I actually thought he would have started higher….
David O'Brien
November 1st, 2012
11:29 am
Juan Francisco hit a 2-run homer in his 2nd game for Licey in Dominican Winter League. He’s 1-for-8 w/ 2 strikeouts, 1 walk in his first two games.
Jeff R
November 1st, 2012
11:29 am
Boras can fetch more for Bourn than 4 years/$48 million.
Wren needs to make a one-year qualifying offer for Bourn and be done with it.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
11:30 am
Only 1 of those players is likely to continue their performance (and possibly get better) over the next 4-5 years.
I think this is a common misperception of player value. If the player gives you three monster years out of a five-year deal, he’s more than paid back the money, even with two years of absolute suckage. Folks seem to want a guy who’s gonna MVP at both ends of the contract and every day in-between, or he’s a bumb. This would be an unreasonable expectation.
old man
November 1st, 2012
11:30 am
Yes, Bourn will be right around 6/96.
Pagan will be 5/75.
Just my random predictions.
David O'Brien
November 1st, 2012
11:31 am
4years, 36-40mil was my max. Don’t mind getting the draft pick while someone else over pays. — TheOnlyBravesFan
I don’t think the Braves would even bother to make that offer if that’s as high as they were willing to go. They’d just tell Boras, “Sorry, but we can’t afford to keep Michael.” Because that offer isn’t even remotely in the ballpark of what Bourn will get.
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
11:31 am
I’m not sure that would even get a much lesser player than Bourn. On the FA market, anyway.
Just the wrong place to go for Atlanta, imo. Especially considering the loss of a first rounder.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
11:32 am
Not all that impressed w/ his bat. He’s a good enough hitter yes, but not exceptional. His main attributes are defense and speed. I can get that from other CFs, especially a certain right-handed one in Anaheim. Lots cheaper.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
11:33 am
I don’t think Wren should go near five years, $75 million for Bourn….
I don’t know why, but I do keep coming back to those figures. Such an offer would be on the edge of keeping me up at night.
In other words, I might not be able to sleep, but I might at least get a nap or two.
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
11:33 am
They’d just tell Boras, “Sorry, but we can’t afford to keep Michael.”
I’m really hoping that’s exactly what they do.
DAP
November 1st, 2012
11:36 am
efrim I don’t think Wren should go near five years, $75 million for Bourn….
nope.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
11:37 am
I don’t think the Braves would even bother to make that offer if that’s as high as they were willing to go. They’d just tell Boras, “Sorry, but we can’t afford to keep Michael.” Because that offer isn’t even remotely in the ballpark of what Bourn will get.
And I’d have no problem with that. If I were the GM, I doubt I do anything but give Bourn a qualifying offer. Not getting involved in that spending spree.
Hamilton’s what, 32 next year? He may give 2-3 more really good years before he starts to decline. Greinke likely won’t get any worse over the next 5-6 years. He’ll stay around the same or get even better. And if both are getting 15+mil deals, and I can pick between the 2 to spend my money on, I’d be spending it on Zack.
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
11:40 am
In other words, I might not be able to sleep, but I might at least get a nap or two.
I just can’t do it based on his age and overall offensive performance in his career. And I think I value defense more than most, but I just see it ending badly. And there is a strong potential for another contract already on the books to end badly. Not that that is in the front of my mind, but I’d rather go the trade route. Hope we have enough currency. Empty the top if need be.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
11:41 am
Not all that impressed w/ his bat.
Well, this place is famous for that. There’s always something about a player that folks here are “not all that impressed” with. Not worth the money, not worth the trade currency, this, that, and the other. Total Acquisition Paralysis.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
11:42 am
Scoots-
Good point there in your 11:30….
I don’t think the Angels were paying Albert based on what they thought he’d do in Year 9
Venice Jim
November 1st, 2012
11:43 am
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
3-year deal for Mike Redmond with #Marlins. very well-respected young guy. beloved in miami org.
UKUGA
November 1st, 2012
11:44 am
That’s our Juan Francisco.
Go big or go home.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
11:44 am
TOBF-
How do you know that for sure though?
Hamilton could go 30/100 for the next 3 years and Greinke’s arm could fall off….
I think the likelyhood of continuous solid production lies more on the side of a hitter than a pitcher….
Pitcher breakdown is ten times as likely as hitter….even given Hamilton’s prior injury issues
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
11:45 am
VJ-
That poor bastard…..he has no idea what he’s gotten himself into!
over/under on when 1st report on him being fired comes out from Loria….
UKUGA
November 1st, 2012
11:45 am
Now, does Pagan come with a year’s supply of Dorito’s Locos Tacos?
Jeff R
November 1st, 2012
11:46 am
Pitcher breakdown is ten times as likely as hitter….even given Hamilton’s prior injury issues
…and his personal problems, or so I’ve read. Wouldn’t touch the guy with a ten-foot pole.
RemoW
November 1st, 2012
11:46 am
ncscoots: Your 11:02 brilliant! LOL
Jeff R
November 1st, 2012
11:47 am
Now, does Pagan come with a year’s supply of Dorito’s Locos Tacos?
Maybe. Depends on the contract.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
11:47 am
Now, does Pagan come with a year’s supply of Dorito’s Locos Tacos?
A lifetime supply and you’d still be behind. I’d rather Bourn get all my money and reduce me to sleeping under a bridge than see Pagan in a Braves’ uni.
Jimmy
November 1st, 2012
11:49 am
Man, hate to hear that about Pascual Perez.
Jeff R
November 1st, 2012
11:49 am
A lifetime supply and you’d still be behind. I’d rather Bourn get all my money and reduce me to sleeping under a bridge than see Pagan in a Braves’ uni.
But I hear the guy’s a real angel…
old man
November 1st, 2012
11:49 am
ncscoots:
I doubt Ahmed, or Gattis, or anyone else like them in the system is going to get a lot of (or any) playing time in 13. But I respectfully oppose the idea of programming someone like Ahmed to get playing time in . . . 2015, and just assume he is not an MLB asset for the next 2 or 3 seasons.
If one of these kids is just blowing the doors off of it this March, you have to consider letting them play. At some point, you need to trade someone to make room, and use that trade to re-stock your system with prospects. I have no idea if Ahmed can play CF, but it’s a damn good question to ask. He’s 6′-3″, 205, so he has the right build for CF. He plays SS, so he has to have some kind of arm. I know he can play 2B, and if Uggla is still in the tank on June 1, and Ahmed is tearing up AA pitching, you need to call him up and plug him in.
Some of the gambles you take, or don’t take, in the free agent/trade market over the winter need to take into account whether you have, or don’t have, some exciting looking players at those positions in the AA or AAA level.
As an example, I’m high on Bourjas, but I know he is somewhat of a calculated risk. If someone tells me Ahmed can play CF, I factor that in to whether I really want someone like Bourjas.
We just need to be prepared to accept nice surprises if and when they occur. Somebody is going to be the 2013 ROY. If someone like Ahmed or Gattis wins that, it would be light years short of the most surprising thing to ever happen in baseball.
flange1
November 1st, 2012
11:50 am
DOB,
Thoughts on Mike Redmond?
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
11:51 am
But I respectfully oppose the idea of programming someone like Ahmed to get playing time in . . . 2015, and just assume he is not an MLB asset for the next 2 or 3 seasons.
That’s OK by me, since I was quoting someone else in that post.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
November 1st, 2012
11:53 am
Looking back, when was the last really good free agent signing the Braves had? Billy Wagner? Even he wasn’t a big difference maker. Before that, what? Gallaraga? Jordan? My point is, I hope Wren doesn’t try to make a splash in the FA market. It just doesn’t usually end well.
TennesseePaul
November 1st, 2012
11:55 am
I’d rather Bourn get all my money and reduce me to sleeping under a bridge than see Pagan in a Braves’ uni.
I wouldn’t. I’d rather pay Pagan in Tacos and put a masher in LF and get an Ace for the staff, than hand over all my Money to Michael bleepin’ Bourn.
Murph
November 1st, 2012
11:55 am
Somebody is going to be the 2013 ROY. If someone like Ahmed or Gattis wins that, it would be light years short of the most surprising thing to ever happen in baseball.
Well, considering that neither will be sniffing the majors next season, it actually would be the most surprising thing to happen ever. Imagine your surprise when they give the award to a player without a single MLB at-bat… I’d be surprised at least.
old man
November 1st, 2012
11:56 am
Just to clarify, if someone tells me Ahmed can play CF, I’m more likely to take a calculated risk on a CFer, and save all my cash for a LFer. It’s just spreading your risk. The odds of two CFers surprising you with how bad they suck is just a lot less than one or the other doing that.
old man
November 1st, 2012
11:56 am
Murph:
Touche.
DAP
November 1st, 2012
11:57 am
equiring minds My point is, I hope Wren doesn’t try to make a splash in the FA market. It just doesn’t usually end well.
i think the right way for a team like the braves to use the FA market, is to find complimentary players. develop stars, sign and trade for complimentary players. its never going to be cost effective for a team with a payroll like this to be the top bidder for the biggest free agent.
David O'Brien
November 1st, 2012
11:58 am
Just talked to Dale Murphy about Pascual Perez. Had some great/funny memories, which I’ll share in a blog later today.
Here were his thoughts upon hearing the news this morning:
“It’s a sad day. Very sad news. I’m glad to be able to have some good memories with Pascual. Fun memories. He was part of our best years in the early ‘80s, and there was never a dull moment with Pascual.”
“Pascual was truly a character. But I appreciated him as someone who was a good teammate and, besides Knucksie [Phil Niekro] and Rick Mahler, he was one of the mainstays of our [pitching] staff for the years he was there.”
“It really is a shocking, sad thing. I certainly wish the best for his family.”
old man
November 1st, 2012
11:58 am
Actually, if we opened up the annual awards to people who never played baseball at all, that would liven up the discussion here quite a bit.
Jeff R
November 1st, 2012
11:59 am
But I respectfully oppose the idea of programming someone like Ahmed to get playing time in . . . 2015, and just assume he is not an MLB asset for the next 2 or 3 seasons.
scoots was quoting me, old man.
Clearly, if a prospect is tracking at a faster rate, bring along and bring him up. I was basing my comments on Ahmed on the fact that unless Simmons implodes, shortstop is blocked for the foreseeable future. I’m not sure that the Braves would see Ahmed, who has demonstrated strong middle infield potential, as a center-fielder. But I could be wrong.
I could see Ahmed at second, though Uggla’s contract would block Ahmed for two or three seasons.
I projected Ahmed for ‘15 on the notion that most prospects need time to develop and gain experience. If Ahmed can be fast-tracked, and there’s a place for him to play, by all means the Braves should do so.
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
12:01 pm
My point is, I hope Wren doesn’t try to make a splash in the FA market. It just doesn’t usually end well.
Even inefficient processes have their place in the making of a product. There are innumerable examples of that in business, when a known inefficiency produces enough additive value to a product to either generate dominant market share or control a niche.
As I’ve said plenty, sometimes it ain’t about “bang for the buck”, but just plain “bang”. Sometimes, you have to live with an inefficiency and work on the other component processes of a product to make up for it.
This doesn’t mean I want the Braves to go all mad-money on the FA market.
But I’m less inclined to berate them for an overpay, in some circumstances.
old man
November 1st, 2012
12:03 pm
Enquiring Minds:
Agreed.
Anyway, what’s the fun in just using a wad of cash to outspend your opponents? It would be a heck of a lot more fun to win the World Series with a 90M payroll than with a 200M payroll.
Venice Jim
November 1st, 2012
12:03 pm
Jon Sciambi @BoogSciambi
Really happy for my boy Mike Redmond. #fishmanager
cricket
November 1st, 2012
12:04 pm
beloved in miami org
is that a good thing?
ncscoots
November 1st, 2012
12:05 pm
I wouldn’t. I’d rather pay
I was not considering other options in the post to which you refer, but simply describing a binary choice.
old man
November 1st, 2012
12:09 pm
Jeff R, agreed.
scoots, sorry to misquote.
I’m just thrilled that our guy, who hardly played, is still an all-star in the AFL. Pretty impressive.
I see he stole 40 bases in 130 games last year in A+ ball, so he’s not slow either.
I agree it’s very, very unlikely, but it would sure be a kick in the @ss if we had a great CFer in the system and nobody knew it.
old man
November 1st, 2012
12:14 pm
Ahmed will be 23 this spring, played 4 years at UConn.
Gattis will be 26.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
12:14 pm
No way to know for sure who will stay healthier P-Town, but given that Greinke is younger and has not had the injury history over the last 2-3 years that Hamilton has, I’d think that he is the safer bet. Also, with the abuse that Hamilton has put on his body, that scares me from him a bit.
flange1
November 1st, 2012
12:15 pm
Hard to believe that the Red Sox are interested in Vernon Wells as well as Dan Haren.
True they might be able to get rid of the Lackey contract, but Vernon Wells for $42 million for 2 years?
That will be an interesting deal if it happens…..
David O'Brien
November 1st, 2012
12:19 pm
Good to hear about Mike Redmond getting Marlins managerial job. A genuinely down-to-earth guy and a real smart baseball mind. One of my favorites when I covered the Marlins, right up there with Cliff Floyd, Mike Lowell, Derek Lee, Bobby Bonilla, Mark Kotsay, Jeff Conine … come to think of it, there were quite a few good dudes on that team in those years. But “Red” was one of the best.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
November 1st, 2012
12:20 pm
sometimes it ain’t about “bang for the buck”, but just plain “bang”.
I think that was Wren’s exact thought when he signed D. Lowe. He was freaked about the pitching staff and slipped into “Do Something!!!” mode. I’d prefer he avoid that in the future.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:21 pm
flange1
Yes, I thought the BoSox were trying to clear bad contracts. Maybe they’d deal Lackey for Wells.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:22 pm
Good luck to Mike Redmond in Miami. Good luck to ANYBODY trying to do a job in Loria Land!
Murph
November 1st, 2012
12:26 pm
I think that was Wren’s exact thought when he signed D. Lowe. He was freaked about the pitching staff and slipped into “Do Something!!!” mode. I’d prefer he avoid that in the future.
We’ll see what happens when his trades fail to materialize and all of the semi-decent FA outfielders are off the market… we could be staring down the barrel of Do Something Mode 2.0 right now.
CrαZy
November 1st, 2012
12:30 pm
Former major league catcher Mike Redmond has been given a three-year contract to be the new manager of the Miami Marlins.
Predictions:
I say he gets axed 74 games into his 3rd season.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:30 pm
We could make a play for Mark Reynolds (Dan Uggla Lite).
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:32 pm
Anybody that followed the Braves thru 2008 will remember precisely why he signed Derek Lowe. And I really don’t think it was a panic move. It was a “who’s the best innings eater out there” move as much as anything.
DAP
November 1st, 2012
12:33 pm
DS1, i know your joking, but i actually like mark reynolds. im afraid he is a terrible fit, though. if all we needed was a little pop to round out the bottom 3rd of the order, he would be a good option.
CrαZy
November 1st, 2012
12:33 pm
I understand someone like Mike Redmond taking that job… That’s probably the least desirable managers job in baseball.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:34 pm
If you are talking about getting a regular or a quality pitcher, you will always overpay in free agency. ALWAYS.
old man
November 1st, 2012
12:34 pm
Mike Trout will be 21 this spring.
Wil Myers will be 22.
Jason Heyward will be 23.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:35 pm
DAP
Agreed. Guy is a lot like Uggla. In the right lineup he would be a feared bat in the 7 slot.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:37 pm
old man
And Juan Francisco will turn 26 in early summer. Are you making a point here about something? Not following you here…….
Murph
November 1st, 2012
12:37 pm
And I really don’t think it was a panic move.
That contract reeked of panic…
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
12:39 pm
For the people who think our rotation is fine this year, but we can add a top pitcher next year, exactly why is that? I mean, if a rotation of 3 young uns (assuming Delgado over Hanson) + Hudson and Maholm is a good enough for this season, then why would we need to add a #1-2 pitcher after the season? Shouldn’t those “aces” (Medlen and Minor) be able to handle it on their own? They’d be a year better and older.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:39 pm
and Chipper Jones will be 41………..
I will be 57……….still.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:42 pm
Murph
That bullshyt. Your typical overreaction to most everything.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:42 pm
Murph
That bullshyt. Your typical overreaction to most everything.
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
12:42 pm
As I’ve said plenty, sometimes it ain’t about “bang for the buck”, but just plain “bang”. Sometimes, you have to live with an inefficiency and work on the other component processes of a product to make up for it.
Unfortunatly, I think we are under the cusp of taking a hold of this thought process on pretty much every available free agent. Sure it’d be great to seperate investment made and just focus on what Bourn gives us – but it’s just not a way to operate, and as much as his contract isn’t a hinderance on the Braves, they already have a questionable amount in a Uggla, whose production is sort of a question mark moving forward.
And I know, he;s the only one on the Braves gauaranteed any cash beyond 2013. But still not a wise way to operate on the available free agents, imo.
TheOnlyBravesFan
November 1st, 2012
12:42 pm
Mike Trout will be 21 this spring. Wil Myers will be 22. Jason Heyward will be 23.
Wouldn’t that be an outfield for the Braves. Power from all 3, speed from 2, and some good D.
Lew
November 1st, 2012
12:43 pm
Apparently it’s not just here that absurd trade possibilities are explored. Heard the guys on XM Home Plate today trying to make a case for Justin Upton traded to the Rangers for Elvis Andrus and a minor leaguer.
Somehow, I don’t see the DBacks settling for that one.
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
12:43 pm
And I can name about 10 or so franchises that can operate without caring about “bang for the buck” – but I just don’t think we are one of those teams. Give us an extra $20 million to spend? – then we can probably talk about it.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:44 pm
TOBF
To be honest, I’d be surprised if FW and company are not planning and laying out all the scenarios for 2014 thru 2017. But I’d also be shocked if they are going to make a move in the fall of 2012 just because they might think they will have an issue in 2014.
These things tend to change from year to year; and sometimes drastically.
Let them figger out 2013 first. Then worry about fine tuning 2014 next year.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:47 pm
Lew
Actually, if it were Michael Olt as the minor leaguer, it might make some sense.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
12:49 pm
Let’s talk about the bang for the buck I could get if I had an extra 20 million!!!
We’d have a heckuva tailgate party at every Braves opening day from now until the day I died. Heck, I’d even fly in Lew and nolie!!!
bravesfaninnc
November 1st, 2012
12:53 pm
Mike Redmond is the new Marlins manager? I wonder if Tom Glavine will have nightmares now when he does the broadcasts of Braves-Marlins games.
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
12:53 pm
DS1-
Can I join in…..
I am 30…..
And can I interject my Dude & Walter Sobchak phrasing here….
What….I mean….what is your POINT oldman?!
Donnie, YOU’RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT!
Murph
November 1st, 2012
12:55 pm
That bullshyt. Your typical overreaction to most everything.
A 4 year, $15mil per year deal to a 36 year old pitcher?
You’re stupid if you don’t think panic played a role in that deal.
Shaun
November 1st, 2012
12:58 pm
Hard to believe that the Red Sox are interested in Vernon Wells as well as Dan Haren.
True they might be able to get rid of the Lackey contract, but Vernon Wells for $42 million for 2 years?
That will be an interesting deal if it happens…..
I would think that even the Red Sox would want the Angels to take on some of Wells’ contract but who knows. Maybe they are using that as an opportunity to move Lackey.
I’m think the Red Sox’s strategy this offseason might be to fill needs with short-term deals to veterans while they are trying to sort of rebuild. I’m thinking the idea may be to load up on pieces that can be dealt for younger talent at some point during the season, until the trade deadline.
The idea with Wells may be to bring him in in hopes that he plays well and they can trade him to a team desperate for an outfielder, pick up a significant portion of his contract and get some quality young players back. Load up on veterans that may be attractive at the trade deadline or at some point throughout the season. You’re bound to hit on a few that could be turned in to quality young players. Or, if things go perfect, they play well enough to get you in to the playoff hunt.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
1:01 pm
Murph
Stubborn, yes. Stupid, no.
It is called a calculated overspend in an area (starting pitching) where our options were not good. As you know, the Braves over the past 5-6 years have never decided to rebuild. They’ve instead decided to retool or reload; whatever you want to call it.
ANY time you go to the FA ranks, you will ALWAYS overpay for decent starting pitching and decent regulars. Nature of the beast. Lowe was a risk to decline due to his age, but at that point, he had not done so yet. And he was also very durable and was not injury prone.
A risk to sign, sure. A panic move. Nah. You’re just overreacting buddy.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
1:05 pm
P town
You are WAY too young!!! At 30, you haven’t lived long enough and screwed up enough yet………..
But you are invited to the tailgate party four shore. Just being such a youngster, you gotta figger out how to get there on your own, OK? Bum a ride with N8 or somebody.
Efrim
November 1st, 2012
1:06 pm
Surprised to see the Red Sox allow Ortiz to hit the open market. Two years, $26-28 million would be fine by me for a team with their payroll space. But maybe he wants something like $30-32 million over two years.
DS1
November 1st, 2012
1:06 pm
Shaun
Taking a shot at a vet in hopes of dealing him at the trade deadline. The A’s have had some measured success at that strategy over the past 5 years. But it’s not a good strategy for a team that actually likes to win from year to year; wouldn’t you think?
RC
November 1st, 2012
1:06 pm
While I’ll be cheering against his team anytime we play them, it was nice of the Marlins to bring “NBP” back into our lives. Why the nickname “NBP”? Glad you asked…
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/naked-bp-with-mike-redmond
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
1:07 pm
DS1-
I don’t feel young….
People say sports are rough….well, I am 30 in actual years, but my body is at least 48 from sports
P-Town Brave ©
November 1st, 2012
1:08 pm
You’d have to be real desperate for Wells unless the Angels are paying off most of that contract….
In fact, wouldn’t Soriano be a MUCH cheaper alternative if you can get him to waive his NTC?
DS1
November 1st, 2012
1:10 pm
P town
We all pick our poison, huh.