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flange1
October 31st, 2012
3:00 pm
Now scoots remember we are not supposed to criticize the front office!
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
3:02 pm
Oh yeah! Now time to get nolie on board
In college, you’re gonna need that course that teaches you to differentiate “sarcasm” from “on board”.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
3:02 pm
CB – Let’s hope they can’t reproduce.
CB
October 31st, 2012
3:05 pm
Lew,it would probably come out mensa.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
3:06 pm
Now scoots remember we are not supposed to criticize the front office!
Scroom. Man shouldn’t have said “premium players”, then, if he doesn’t want to get called on it.
If they can get two, count ‘em, two quality OF just from trades of the (seemingly) available trade bank? Don’t let those guys near your money or your wife, ’cause they got mad thief skills. Wicked sick thief skills.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
3:08 pm
CB – Maybe so, but all that would lead to is an attempt at world domination by two schizoid keyboards.
Shaun
October 31st, 2012
3:09 pm
Any room in that group for open minded people? You know,the king willing to listen to both viewpoints?
Just to get philosophical for a second…
My thing is that anti-sabermetric, anti-WAR, anti-wOBA, etc. is not really a viewpoint, per se, nor is anti-scouting. Open-minded is paying attention to things like WAR and wOBA, etc. in addition to scouting and other things; using an all-of-the-above approach. If you come in with an anti-sabermetric approach or an anti-scouting approach or an anti-anything approach, that’s being close-minded.
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2012
3:09 pm
DOB – Was driving by, and had to comment on today’s activities. As one of the “long-timers”, I completely understand your frustration, (and completely agree) reguarding the hateful, vitriotic rantings of the babys, whiners, and numbnutz that seem to have taken ove this once great blog.
Used to be that, with few exceptions, we could have lively, interesting discussions in a respectful and civil manner, with others who may disagree, while rarely being disagreeable. Opposing views welcomed, and most were pretty knowledgeable. Quite enjoyable, in fact. I don’t know how you (we all who care) can regain that unique and desirable atmosphere, but would certainly welcome it.
I also believe you should set the rules, and thus, talk about any damn thing you please. I don’t have the same taste in music that you do, but that’s fine…have at it. And as for food, especially BBQ, well I can talk about that any time.
Many of us have gotten to know and appriciate each other here…and care about each other. I haven’t met a single one, but consider many here to be good friends. Carry on, please.
Gotta go, but that needed to be said.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
Maybe we just misunderstood FW – maybe what he meant was that he would try to get two outfielders at a premium.
raleighbravefan
October 31st, 2012
3:10 pm
DOB – Also, I don’t currently follow twitter, but I miss you input on the blog.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
3:13 pm
Maybe we just misunderstood FW – maybe what he meant was that he would try to get two outfielders at a premium.
Translated to, “We’re picking up a couple of dog-azz fifth OF, hoping they’ll succumb to alien inhabitation and give us good seasons. But that’s just Plan A. The backup plan is almost as good.”
Lew
October 31st, 2012
3:17 pm
scoots – One thing we can pretty much take for granted is that no matter who FW gets for those positions, there will be a goodly number here who approve and at least that many that don’t.
phil
October 31st, 2012
3:17 pm
Slim Hinske down and stick him in left on the cheap…..
P-Town Brave ©
October 31st, 2012
3:17 pm
Anyone listen to the clubhouse report today?
Was just curious what was said….got a bit preoccupied w/ Shaun of the Dead during my lunch break
Such a funny comedy horror movie…
And yeah, BP…understandable, but thats why I am glad me and the fiance decided that we don’t care what the either does as long as we get a bit of quiet time together….so I pretty much go to bed when I want to….albeit not as late as it used to be because of the hours I keep at the office and well, I just feel older every day
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
3:18 pm
If they can get two, count ‘em, two quality OF just from trades of the (seemingly) available trade bank?
I mean, he can go the free agent route. But the majority of the free agents available will have he loss of a first round draft pick AND an overpaid contract to come with em – Swisher, Upton, Pagan.
So if Wren wants to give up a first rounder for the third time in his six year tenure(also gave up a 2nd rounder for Lowe in 2009) than he may do so, but I don’t think that’s the best way of going about this.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
3:19 pm
I think that overpayment is a forgone conclusion.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
3:20 pm
Slim Hinske down and stick him in left on the cheap
He isn’t fat…just big-boned.
Anyway, I guess I shouldn’t be crying about them skipping the FA market, since I don’t like any of the available specimens for either CF or LF, to start with.
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
3:21 pm
And I know, I know – he shouldn’t be worried about first round draft picks when he’s trying to win a World Series. But I think most GM’s are trying to win a World Series and it is just simply not smart for a mid-market franchise like the Braves to continue to rid themselves of first and second round draft picks for less than premium players – one year of Tom Glavine, one year of Billy Wagner, Four years of Derek Lowe.
Didn’t mind Lowe as much. Don’t care how good Wags was for us – didn’t like it at the time.
Man, Billy Wagner to the Red Sox late in that 2009 season. One of Theo’s more brilliant moves that got him two Top 40 draft picks.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
3:21 pm
Well, we only have so much available trade bait and we will have a considerable amount of cash. I just don’t see having enough trade bait to get two players that would be worth the cash. They’re almost going to have to get one through Free Agency.
Dadgum.....
October 31st, 2012
3:21 pm
DOB at 1:01—–and can I get an amen!
In all seriousness, my blog whipping boy status aside, were it not for DOB’s raving about the DBT’s I would have not had the pleasure of experiencing this outstanding band live. While I admit I’ve never heard of 3/4 of his annual top 100, I really appreciate the music banter here. Ditto BBQ or anything else non-baseball. Carry on DOB.
While I’m at it , I know many of my views come out of LF or perhaps against the grain but I’m a serious Braves fan. Probably the only one on this blog that attended the very first game at Fulton County Stadium. Anyway I’ll continue to post my views and respect others. This is the best blog going and I think I came on the year DOB started back in the old format.
Rock on…..Cowlings BBQ east of Petersburg is right up there with Parker’s. not better but up there. Both better than Lexington original. That’s saying something.
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
3:23 pm
I think that overpayment is a forgone conclusion.
And that’s okay. But I draw the line at a mid-market team like the Braves continuing to give up first rounders. Don’t care about the extra pick we are most likely getting for Michael Bourn. Braves haven’t had two Top 40 picks since 2007.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
3:25 pm
They’re almost going to have to get one through Free Agency.
Could take on an existing big contract at a relatively low trade cost. That’s the closest thing to FA, for contracted players. Got no idea who might fit that profile and actually be worth acquiring, though.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
3:25 pm
I see your point on the first rounders, but whether they go FA and lose a draft pick or go the trade route and empty the Farm, the minor league system is going to,be relatively barren either way.
phil
October 31st, 2012
3:28 pm
But is that what you “longtimers” here want? For people not to disapprove of stuff?
Serious question because it’s certainly the sense you get. Those of us who’ve only been around a few years I think find it a little hard to know what the deal is on days like today .
Lew
October 31st, 2012
3:29 pm
Or they might find a deal on someone who rejected an option or who had the team option rejected. Still – considering much of what they have is cash………they’ll have to spend it somewhere cause I don’t see the trade bait getting all we need cause I don’t see them trading much of anyone off the ML team other than maybe Hanson and I don’t see them trading Delgado and Teheran and Gilmartin, and, etc..
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
3:29 pm
I see your point on the first rounders, but whether they go FA and lose a draft pick or go the trade route and empty the Farm, the minor league system is going to,be relatively barren either way.
I think I’d rather them trade from the surplus up top, to be honest.
Now, I don’t think we need to sell out like the Brewers did in getting Greinke and Marcum, but they used Alcides Escobar, Brett Lawrie, Jake Odorizzi, and Lorenzo Cain to fetch their guys.
We’ve got some other assets other than prospects in EOF or Venters(not both), Hanson, Delgado……
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
3:32 pm
And if we needed some veteran insurance for the back end of the rotation, Wren has to be able to go the free agent market for that. Lots of #5 starter candidates available for less than what Hanson is going to make through arbitration, imo.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
3:33 pm
But is that what you “longtimers” here want? For people not to disapprove of stuff?
Nah. We put up with N8 long before the influx of D&Gers, and, heck, N8 groused about everything.
Something irks you about the team, spit it out. But I don’t think it’s high-handed to ask that there be some logic behind the rant. Too many folks here are just on auto-b!tch, and that tends to get old. Nothing constructive in the complaint, to my way of thinking. Just expelling foul gas.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
3:34 pm
I just don’t see them trading any of the bullpen – especially the three at the end. I really don’t think that either EOF or Venters will bring a return orth more than their performances are to the Braves and I certainly don’t see Hanson and Delgado bring a huge return either – and certainly not enough to fill both spots we need filled.
It’s also why I don’t see them messing with starting pitching untilnnext year when they have the flexibility of using Hudson/Maholm’ salaries (even if they do re-up Huddy at a much lower rate of pay)
flange1
October 31st, 2012
3:36 pm
And they continue spouting the same thing over and over and over.
Sometimes with different monikers.
Murph
October 31st, 2012
3:38 pm
Could take on an existing big contract at a relatively low trade cost. That’s the closest thing to FA, for contracted players. Got no idea who might fit that profile and actually be worth acquiring, though.
I’ve been saying it for 2+ years… Alfonso Soriano. I know he doesn’t play the best defense and that he’s had some up and down years, but I think he’s going to come closer to repeating his 2012 stats than his 2011 stats.
I was listening to a Cubs game on the radio this year and their announcers were talking about why Soriano had such a dramatic turnaround. Basically the new strength and conditioning coach for the Cubs took Soriano aside and explained to him that he was becoming a complete joke in the NL, that he was viewed as one of the worst players in the league… Soriano took it to heart and worked his butt off.
If the Cubs paid a huge portion of his remaining $36mil over the next two years and he doesn’t cost a lot in terms of players… I know nobody else here likes him, but….
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
3:38 pm
Speaking of LH relievers – be interested to see how Luis Avilan does next year. His breaking ball had some serious bite to it and he sat in the 92-93mph range, touching 94. Hope he comes out dealing in the Spring.
flange2
October 31st, 2012
3:38 pm
yeah, like who?
Shaun
October 31st, 2012
3:39 pm
I think that overpayment is a forgone conclusion.
Depends on what you mean by “overpayment.” I think many of us would be surprised at the going rate for wins on the free agent market.
Dadgum.....
October 31st, 2012
3:39 pm
Efrim in my opinion we have about three back end of the rotation starters now. Assuming one or two will be traded though. Not sure we could take on another pitcher and still get our primary needs. I mean I’m already fine with Medlen, Minor, Hudson, Maholm, & Delgado as the rotation. Beachy back 2nd half.
Bay Area Steve
October 31st, 2012
3:39 pm
“Near everyone sat here and said he had a ceiling of a mid rotation starter and I am still holding to that.” – Ef
“From Day one when Minor was drafted – “mid-rotation starter ceiling” – from near everyone.” – Ef
Efrim,
You know who didn’t say it? You. What you did: you parroted Baseball-Reference’s line of a “four at best.” You mentioned Keith Law’s thinking of “a four, that might play up to a three.” You stated, or implied, back-of-the-rotation many times over. Not once, at the time, did you say mid-rotation or three, if my recollection, and my recent re-skim, are accurate. More telling: not once did you point to Baseball Prospectus’ or Baseball Cube’s higher opinion of Minor.
“‘Misremembering’ is thinking that some said he was worse than a #3 starter and no one did.” – Ef
More revisionist history. Nobody said worse than three?
“Folks, no one….. And I mean – NO ONE said Mike Minor had the ceiling of a #5 starter. Not anyone.” – Ef
Steve from Ohio called him a 4/5, back-end-starter. You agreed.
“I think it’s pretty clear who is looking at our young pitchers performance with “grey area” in mind.” – Efrim
“You can see plenty of that from folks who see one side of the question and are unwilling to even put eyeballs on any other side. Taking the lead from the blogmeister, I would say.” – scoots
Would you say your opinion of the Braves’ drafting of Mike Minor had even a sliver of “gray” area? An iota? A smidgen?
Pavlovian response?
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 31st, 2012
3:41 pm
I like Avilan. I think he could do really well next year. He came up and made a good impression, much like Venters in 2010. May make a trade of JV or EOF more bearable.
And they continue spouting the same thing over and over and over.
I’m trying to get better.
I hope we can trade Hanson for prospects, maybe 1 mid-level one. That may require waiting until June-July next season and hoping he does well though. Getting 2 top40 picks in the draft is a must for me though.
TTFN
Ward
October 31st, 2012
3:43 pm
Hello everyone! I’ve been doing a lot of thinking about the money situation. I believe Wren, will keep everything within te budget. He’s not going to spend $20 million on one player. He most likely will get some one likem Kevin Youkilis, B.J. Upton, Pagan, Swisher, or Victorino. If can’t sign Bourn? Ludwick would fit the budget too as well.
flange2
October 31st, 2012
3:44 pm
BAS is dangerous with a computer and time to search….
Ward
October 31st, 2012
3:45 pm
Also, He’s willing to trade some pitching, so we will have to see if he want’s to get a Justin Upton type player too?
phil
October 31st, 2012
3:46 pm
Ward, you’re just so dang cheerful….good for you, though.
flange1
October 31st, 2012
3:46 pm
Pretty good one flange2!
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
3:46 pm
Would you say your opinion of the Braves’ drafting of Mike Minor had even a sliver of “gray” area? An iota? A smidgen?
Zero. Other than to say (at the time) that I could understand the reasoning of drafting a pitcher who could reasonably be expected to have a short track to the bigs, since their big league pitching wasn’t in great shape and their higher-rated pitching prospects were a ways off. I thought then, as I think now, that they didn’t maximize their best draft opportunity in years.
I don’t remember, but I’m not sure the above quoted comment was in that context. But, if I so stand accused, I will not protest.
Murph
October 31st, 2012
3:48 pm
Another heaping helping of drama to get me through the afternoon. The blog is really delivering today.
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
3:48 pm
All right, let’s get the Dan Haren thread un-spooling:
From Fox Sports:
The team [the Angels], according to major league sources, is aggressively trying to move right-handers Dan Haren and Ervin Santana before deciding on their respective — and expensive — club options for 2013.
Ward
October 31st, 2012
3:48 pm
All, it’s been good! Just thought I would drop in, and I also think Wren, want’s to save cash for next year too. Peace jmy friends, and talk later tonight, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
3:50 pm
“Expect Angels to start trading soon”
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Expect-Los-Angeles-Angels-to-make-trade-Ervin-Santana-Dan-Haren-103012
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
3:51 pm
Oh boy, BAS. Mid-rotation starter ceiling, BAS. And I did feel that way then.
Steve from Ohio called him a 4/5, back-end-starter. You agreed.
Perhaps in once in one of my rants back in June of 2009 as his most likely outcome with the ceiling of a #3 starter.
Would you say your opinion of the Braves’ drafting of Mike Minor had even a sliver of “gray” area? An iota? A smidgen?
Absolutely. I can appreciate the “high floor” thought process from the Braves and I get that was where they were going. I strongly disagreed with the approach and still do to this day. Never waivered.
But please, “Randomize me” as I am sure you will. OR you can understand that the argument yesterday was about two people in particular playing up a pitcher who had 3 very good months and is STILL the owner of a career 4.37 ERA. So? Let’s take the approach of needing to see more. That smells a lot more like “gray area” to me, rather than a few statements of people CLEARLY not willing to see the other side of things.
abeeeewright
October 31st, 2012
3:51 pm
I don’t think FW will skip the free agent market. I think he will let the “premium” names go off the board for ridiculous prices (Hamilton, Bourn, Pagan) and bid on some of the lesser names.
I suspect one hole gets filled via FA and one gets filled via trade. Unfortunately, that trade will be a piece like Teheran or Delgado or Hanson or some combination of the above.
I hope that FW doesn’t lose the first round pick, which means I hope he doesn’t sign an A-lister. However, I suspect that that might be his best option to improve the 2013 team.
Candie
October 31st, 2012
3:53 pm
I’ll be moving to Kerrville Texas in a couple of days. Anyone from that area?
What can I expect? It’s in th emiddleof nowhere, right?
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
3:54 pm
The Rays, seeking to add offense, are one club with better pitching to offer; their inventory of starters includes not just veterans such as right-hander James Shields and lefty David Price, but also younger, lower-priced pitchers such as righty Jeremy Hellickson and lefty Matt Moore.
– Fox Sports
So if the Rays are looking to add offense in exchange for the likes of James Shields or David Price, how are the Braves going to match-up, given that the Braves are offense-thin? This for folk who have suggested pursuing Shields or Price.
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
3:54 pm
Zero. Other than to say (at the time) that I could understand the reasoning of drafting a pitcher who could reasonably be expected to have a short track to the bigs.
See – that IS gray area, in my opinion. You saw what they were doing and understood it but didn’t agree with it.
Man, if that’s wrong, I don’t know what right is.
phil
October 31st, 2012
3:56 pm
LOL
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
3:58 pm
Kerrville, Texas, isn’t far from San Antonio. Austin’s fairly close, too.
But do remember that around Kerrville the hills have eyes.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
3:58 pm
So if the Rays are looking to add offense in exchange for the likes of James Shields or David Price, how are the Braves going to match-up, given that the Braves are offense-thin?
Can’t. I’ve previously bemoaned that fact.
Bat Masterson
October 31st, 2012
3:58 pm
My memory may be off here but I seem to recall that Minor has Ward’s complete support.
That trumps pretty much everything else.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
3:59 pm
But do remember that around Kerrville the hills have eyes.
…and at least one Rally Stripper.
Dadgum.....
October 31st, 2012
3:59 pm
Kerville is in the middle of the Texas Hill Country if memory serves. Most of us should be so lucky.
Candie
October 31st, 2012
4:00 pm
Jeff R. What do you mean the hills have eyes?
Yeah, it is off I-10. Is it mostly baren?
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
4:01 pm
…and at least one Rally Stripper.
At least one…
Murph
October 31st, 2012
4:01 pm
I’ll be moving to Kerrville Texas in a couple of days. Anyone from that area?
What can I expect? It’s in th emiddleof nowhere, right?
Are you into folk music, patchouli, and not bathing for weeks at a time? Pooping in holes, eating tofu, and feeding wild pigs?
If so, then you’ll fit right in.
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
4:02 pm
Check it out, but be warned:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hills_Have_Eyes_(2006_film)
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
4:02 pm
Maybe I should post less? I mean, if every comment I’m going to make is going to be brought back and twisted than I’m not sure what to say. Certainly didn’t expect that from Bay Area Steve. But maybe so.
I was actually thinking of it the other day – if we look at percetages of posts by certain individuals and WAB(Wins above Blogger) – I am leaving myself open for a lot of fielding errors.
phil
October 31st, 2012
4:03 pm
Za Za Patchouli?
P-Town Brave ©
October 31st, 2012
4:03 pm
Thats part of my question…
Who really DO WE match up well with on a trade for bats…..and bats we want…?
BTW, Efrim, I almost feel as though the emergence of Avilan has made Venters almost expendable if someone wants him as a piece in a deal….saves the club money too….like I said, about 6M if they can dangle Hanson and him somewhere
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
4:04 pm
I am leaving myself open for a lot of fielding errors
It’s OK, defense is less important than y’all think, anyway.
DAP
October 31st, 2012
4:04 pm
i wonder if jokim soria would be a good choice for wren to get for the ‘pen. if we need a righthanded reliever for high leverage situations, it might be a good idea to hope for a comeback from soria. then again, soria might not be ready to pitch a big load of innings. what do yall think?
nolie
October 31st, 2012
4:07 pm
I too understood their approach that season, but also disagreed with it. I think if you have a top 10 pick you take the highest ceiling available. It might not work out, just like the picking of Minor MIGHT work out better than expected, but you go with what you know.
Lew I think it was really made a big deal about Minor yesterday, perhaps prematurely, and totally missing the point that some of us tried to make
We should all be thankful that we got as much as we have so far and might have, because of course taking the highest ceiling would perhaps have been riskier than taking the high floor that Minor had.
Candie
October 31st, 2012
4:08 pm
No, I’m not into that stuff listed. Just going where my job takes me. I’m in the insurance business.
Oh, you meant the movie. Ok, gotcha.
And I don’t know what a “Rally Stripper” is. Must be a baseball term or something.
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
4:09 pm
I think we scared Candie away. Err, sorry.
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
4:10 pm
Murph’s just speaking from experience, Candie. Never you mind him.
P-Town Brave ©
October 31st, 2012
4:10 pm
DAP-
Even after the TJ and all do you think we could afford him?
Also, I thought I recall him saying he wanted to transition into a starters role somewhere….
nolie
October 31st, 2012
4:12 pm
everybody should be scared by the thought of moving to Texas.
Bay Area Steve
October 31st, 2012
4:14 pm
scoots,
Sorry, wasn’t intended for you. Just pasting something Ef’d agreed with.
Efrim,
I understand the discussion is ceiling. We’re talking 2009. What else could it be? Please don’t do what you accuse ‘OB of; we’ve talked before, no? I know what ceiling to mean, and I’d hope you’d know that by now. But, thanks for your definition.
I’m not commenting on yesterday’s discussion at all, and even if I were, I don’t need it explained a 52nd time. I take issue with you saying he could be a three. You never said so at the time. And acting like you did is disingenuous at best.
Call it Randomizing, call it too much time on my hands, call it what you will. You didn’t think he was a three, and even if you did, you darn sure didn’t say it here. I remember. And, I’ve checked.
And, if you truly think your opinion of the Braves’ drafting of Minor wasn’t as black and white as is possible, you’re not nearly as self-aware as I give you credit for. I’d blame my reading comprehension, but as you’ve called it wrong, or worse, no less than 750 times here, I feel confident on that one.
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
4:15 pm
We should all be thankful that we got as much as we have so far and might have, because of course taking the highest ceiling would perhaps have been riskier than taking the high floor that Minor had.
And there is value in the fact that he’s come up quickly and has been able to contribute, where Zack Wheeler and Shelby Miller are just now hitting the majors. Matzek and Purke(went to TCU) aren’t healthy now either.
But I have a hard time swaying away from taking the player with the highest ceiling as high up in the draft as they were. They aren’t going to be there much, and there are few opportunities to acquire elite level players for a mid-market club. That strategic approach in my view, leaves little for black and white.
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
4:15 pm
everybody should be scared by the thought of moving to Texas.
No state income tax. Jobs. Oil. And the Texas Rangers (the originals) got rid of the Apache long ago.
Ain’t so bad in the Lone Star State.
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
4:15 pm
Excuse me, gray.
Gary O.
October 31st, 2012
4:16 pm
Assuming the Braves lose out on Bourn, who would be a good candidate to be the Braves leadoff hitter (based on who is currently on the team, and who is available via FA)…
Murph
October 31st, 2012
4:16 pm
No, I’m not into that stuff listed. Just going where my job takes me. I’m in the insurance business.
Kerrville is my sales territory lady. Who sent you? Was it Steve? Well, why don’t you go back and tell Steve that if he has a problem with me he should deal with me directly instead of sending his pirate hooker to handle his dirty work for him.
If you and Steve want to play, I’ll play.
Bay Area Steve
October 31st, 2012
4:17 pm
Oh, I forgot:
Isn’t “never waivered” as black and white as it gets? You formed an opinion, and refused any possibility you were wrong. Which I understood for years, and may even agree with, by the way. But, I kindly ask you to draw the line at lecturing the rest of us on gray area.
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
4:18 pm
Kerrville is my sales territory lady. Who sent you? Was it Steve? Well, why don’t you go back and tell Steve that if he has a problem with me he should deal with me directly instead of sending his pirate hooker to handle his dirty work for him.
If you and Steve want to play, I’ll play.
Whoa! Murph, I’ll buy insurance from you. I don’t want to be shot.
Candie
October 31st, 2012
4:20 pm
Well, like I said, I’m just following my job.
I’ve just never lived out west and was wondering what it was like.
Also, I’m here because my friend’s husband is on here alot and said there are some folks from Texas on here.
Bay Area Steve
October 31st, 2012
4:20 pm
Efrim,
You’re of my favorite posters here. And, I’ve told you that. Many times. I think I should be allowed to disagree once or twice without you feeling picked on. But, I don’t how that works. VJ and cab were friends for years, and one post turned me despicable and cowardly, so, your call.
O.M.G.
October 31st, 2012
4:20 pm
Candie, where are you moving from?
phil
October 31st, 2012
4:20 pm
Candie is such a sweet name, especially with it being Halloween and all….
Just be careful with this bunch. Some turn on others faster than a trailer park pitbull on a youngun….
P-Town Brave ©
October 31st, 2012
4:21 pm
Murph-
Funny enough, I finally got my wish after b*tching and moaning about playing for bad teams….
BUT I got traded to the Cardinals….that said I’m happy bc I am on a good team…
Oh, and even better….I go to play the Braves and imagine to my surprise, Ryan Ludwick is in LF, Angel Pagan is in CF, and Daniel Murphy is at 2b….
Not sure if it was dumb luck w/ the first two or what but they were there….
That said, in just about every iteration of the game, both Freeman and Heyward are gone by the time they hit FA
Oh, and my lineup…its SICK….
I bat leadoff and play CF
Alcides Escobar SS
Allen Craig 1b
David Freese 2b
Adrian Beltre 3b
Carlos Beltran RF
Matt Holliday LF
Jarrod Saltalamacchia C
And my rotation includes David Price, Ian Kennedy, Adam Wainwright, and Lance Lynn….
Yeah, if my team doesn’t get to the playoffs now there’s something wrong.
Murph
October 31st, 2012
4:21 pm
I’ve just never lived out west and was wondering what it was like.
I’m going to scalp you.
nolie
October 31st, 2012
4:22 pm
you mean all the Comanches are gone too? Well you are now getting overrun with wild hogs, but I guess that might be a good thing, a source of free meat and creating jobs for professional guides.
I guess as long as you are armed while walking the hills, the biggest danger might be dying from boredom
P-Town Brave ©
October 31st, 2012
4:22 pm
Holy Crap!
BAS!!! Where the heck have you been…haven’t seen you on when I’ve been on for quite some time.
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
4:23 pm
Just be careful with this bunch. Some turn on others faster than a trailer park pitbull on a youngun….
Your being too charitable, phil.
I’m going to scalp you.
Evidently, the Rangers didn’t every Apache.
Murph
October 31st, 2012
4:23 pm
PT, that’s awesome. Now you’re making me want to play The Show again.
That lineup makes me wonder what your team budget is. Pretty outrageous.
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
4:25 pm
nolie, I detect a lil’ Lou’s-e- anna bias against your big brother to the west.
Candie
October 31st, 2012
4:25 pm
Well, Murph if you are just going to be mean like that, I’ll just get off this blog. Both your post to me have been ugly.
And who is Steve?
Wow, I didn’t expect this.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
4:25 pm
Many times. I think I should be allowed to disagree once or twice without you feeling picked on
BAS, Efrim got a little shot today from O’Brien (mistakenly) and Lew was poking the bear yesterday, so he may be a little paranoid, is all.
And the hurricane and stuff, you know, might have left him a little prickly.
phil
October 31st, 2012
4:26 pm
Wait, VJ, in just one post could undo much good will?
Surely not.
Bay Area Steve
October 31st, 2012
4:27 pm
“That strategic approach”
I don’t know how I can be any more clear that I’m not arguing the strategy. I’ve even said I may agree with you guys. I’m arguing your statements that your ‘09 ceiling was a three, and whether you ought to be a preacher of grey area, when on this one issue, you’re a confirmed atheist.
P-Town Brave ©
October 31st, 2012
4:27 pm
Murph-
I’ll see if I can check when I get back on to play when I head home and get done passing out candy to the neighborhood….
BTW, do you know of any way in RTTS that you can see who all the managers are for the teams?
Scioscia is my manager now for the Cards….I’ve seen Mattingly as the Cubs manager….Ozzie Guillen is the Dodgers manager, and I have no clue who the Braves manager is…don’t recognize the face….
So naturally I was curious who is where in the managerial carousel.
Bay Area Steve
October 31st, 2012
4:28 pm
I see scoots.
I’m trying to backpedal just enough he doesn’t post any less, but not so much he misunderstands my intent. Fine line for a guy who doesn’t have your wordsmithing abilities.
Bay Area Steve
October 31st, 2012
4:29 pm
Bars, P-Town. When in doubt, check the bars.
nolie
October 31st, 2012
4:31 pm
might be iffen I was from loosyanna. actually I like Austin just fine and being a former cowboy/horse breeder I like the ranch country, just don’t wanna lose your horse out there