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Dadgum.....
October 31st, 2012
9:37 am
Real happy for Heyward. Great year for the phenom. Never thought Bourn would win though. Coaches look at offensive production with GG. Bourn went down like the Hindenburg. Prado, sad but maybe true, isn’t viewed as an outfielder per se. His flip flopping of positions killed him. Not to mention having his GM constantly proclaiming his best positions are 2nd/3rd. The voters were correct in their awards as concern the Braves players. It was an honor to be chosen as a finalist though for sure. Congrats to LaRoche too.
Roman Gal
October 31st, 2012
9:48 am
Been a while, hasn’t it? Jimmy
Eh, well…you know…
Happy Halloween, Bat!
Murph
October 31st, 2012
9:53 am
I like the Astros’ new logo.
DAP
October 31st, 2012
10:04 am
DS1 So truthfully, he had 1 incredible month. 3 pretty good months. 2 OK months and 6 really, really bad months.
i disagree with this assessment. you you are going to do it based on month to month and have 4 categories, you have to give him 2 incredible months. 2 months where he OPSed over .950. thats MVP territory. 1 month where he batted between .850-.950. thats a great month. 5 months where he hit between .750 and .850…those are good months. and 4 terrible months, where he hit below .750…usually waaay below.
phil
October 31st, 2012
10:06 am
Congrats to Jason Heyward!
Happy Halloween to all, except those who may not like it and call it Begoween instead, or those who sit inside a dark house and refuse to be decent towards children just having a bit of fun.
DAP
October 31st, 2012
10:25 am
murph, the astros logo looks retro, right? im not too sure about it.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
10:28 am
phil – We’re pretty rural and off the beaten track (most here are) so the town gives a party for all of the kids – we haven’t had a single Trick or Treater in twelve years.
Better I don’t have lots of candy laying around anyway. I’d just gain more weight.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
10:29 am
Bourn’s not a Gold Glover? Bubba, please.
BravePack(FreeFan)
October 31st, 2012
10:29 am
Where is everybody? Out trick or treating already.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
10:29 am
New logo, old logo – sill going to be the same old Terrible Stros.
BravePack(FreeFan)
October 31st, 2012
10:30 am
Congrats to Heyward on his first of hopefully many GG in a Braves uniform. I thought there was an outside chance FF might get one as well.
cricket
October 31st, 2012
10:30 am
we haven’t had a single Trick or Treater in twelve years….Lew
all the kids in the town follow this blog and are scared of big bad Lew?
BravePack(FreeFan)
October 31st, 2012
10:32 am
FF will get one in the next couple years fo sure.
Trader Jack
October 31st, 2012
10:34 am
Murph
Avalon survived, there’s a lot of cleaning and repairs to do, but the town should be ready for next season.
OTOH, places like Long Beach Island were devastated
DAP
October 31st, 2012
10:34 am
i havent really participated in halloween since college. too bust, usually. im not cranky like lew, or anything.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
10:34 am
cricket – Nah, I’m a big old teddy bear.
There are only two houses within a half mile of us – it’s not worth coming up the hill for two or three houses and makes much more sense having a central party for the kids in town.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
10:37 am
FF will get one in the next couple years fo sure.
The only way that happens is if some speed coach finds a way to get him some range.
His first step is as slow as Victorino’s bat speed.
Trader Jack
October 31st, 2012
10:37 am
Astros need more than a new logo to put butts in the seats
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 31st, 2012
10:37 am
Bourn’s not a Gold Glover? Bubba, please.
.327/.400/.553/.953 w/ 30 HR and 96 RBI made the difference, it seems. Some great defensive stats there.
And how the hell did CarGo win one? Geez.
Murph
October 31st, 2012
10:38 am
Trader Jack, I saw some pictures of Dune Drive… looked like it was water up to the top of the doors. My wife had tears in her eyes when she saw her favorite store (The Preppy Palm) under water.
I had tears in my eyes when I saw what happened to Avalon Freeze. And the WaWa.
How’s your house? I’m assuming you got water inside… hoping the repairs don’t cost you an arm and a leg.
Frankie
October 31st, 2012
10:39 am
Freeman has good hands but not elite firstbaseman yet. Range isn’t very good as well. He’s good, but not in class of Rochy, Tex and Kotchman for that matter. Focus on hitting big #5, he will be needed majorly next season.
phil
October 31st, 2012
10:39 am
Lew
October 31st, 2012
10:28 am
phil – We’re pretty rural and off the beaten track (most here are) so the town gives a party for all of the kids – we haven’t had a single Trick or Treater in twelve years.
Better I don’t have lots of candy laying around anyway. I’d just gain more weight.
***************
An excellent idea. Our neighborhood isn’t overly populated, so we’ll be heading to another to raid the residents residing therein.
I’m going as a left field umpire….still ticked at that sum bi**h.
TennesseePaul
October 31st, 2012
10:39 am
Bourn’s not a Gold Glover? Bubba, please.
Sure he is, just not every year. He’s no Andruw Jones, you know.
Murph
October 31st, 2012
10:40 am
Astros need more than a new logo to put butts in the seats
They’ll fill the stadium against the Rangers and Angels… Yankees too. People will come from far and wide to see them get beat some of the best teams in the AL.
I won’t be making any trips down, not now that the Braves won’t be going to Houston. I hope they make it there in 2014’s interleague schedule, but I’m not holding my breath.
Stupid Selig.
phil
October 31st, 2012
10:41 am
As many balls as Bourn flubbed when he had to go back on em, he’s lucky he was even mentioned as a possibility for a gold glove. The guy was incredible at times out there but bad as well, now and then, which is enough to doom you for that award.
He didn’t deserve it.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
10:42 am
phil – “I’m going as a left field umpire”
About as scary as it gets.
TennesseePaul
October 31st, 2012
10:42 am
New logo, old logo – sill going to be the same old Terrible Stros.
I appreciate that retro logo. Think it looks sharp.
And it shall be interesting to see what impact on interleague results the Astros realignment makes. The NL gets the benefit of losing its worst team, so addition by subtraction. The AL on the other hand gets down graded by gaining one of the worst teams in the majors…
Shaun
October 31st, 2012
10:42 am
Bourn may have provided more defensive value than any player in baseball. Can we just had the awards over to front office folks?
Lew
October 31st, 2012
10:43 am
Is Efrim going as a Polished College LH pitcher?
Lew
October 31st, 2012
10:44 am
Well, not as if we’re going to see that new logo on any Fox or ESPN games.
Shaun
October 31st, 2012
10:46 am
The Astros are doing some interesting things. They’ll be back on their feet within 4-5 years, I think.
phil
October 31st, 2012
10:50 am
Bourn may well have provided a ton of defensive value in CF, but those awards aren’t given on that basis. He missed enough of em out there to cost himself the award. Besides, AM deserved it more as a lowly Pirate. Reason enough….
kenhotlanta
October 31st, 2012
10:51 am
A Tom O’Hawke and a Roman Gal sighting on the same day…good to see them both. Where’s Samantha and her Halloween costume? (only Murph knows for sure).
Murph
October 31st, 2012
10:52 am
Bourn getting the gold glove would have raised his price at least another $250-500k a year… and since we’re going to be the team signing him, we should be happy he didn’t get it.
Murph
October 31st, 2012
10:54 am
Where’s Samantha and her Halloween costume? (only Murph knows for sure).
You’re either insinuating that I am Samantha… or that I had relations with Samantha… or that I’m the person responsible for her disappearance.
How dare you, sir? How dare you?
(my guess is that she’s buried in a shallow grave outside of Ruidoso, NM)
Trader Jack
October 31st, 2012
10:55 am
Murph
Don’t know the condition of my house. I’m at my home on the mainland. Authorities won’t let anyone on the island as of this AM. I’ve spoken to a friend who lives there year round, and he said the major issue is debris all over the place
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
10:55 am
Jeff R – “Zack Greinke” is like a cup of coffee. It’s here every morning. TOBF will be pleased.
You, sir, are correct.
BravePack(FreeFan)
October 31st, 2012
10:56 am
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
10:37 am
FF will get one in the next couple years fo sure.
The only way that happens is if some speed coach finds a way to get him some range. His first step is as slow as Victorino’s bat speed.
Yeah I’m not sure that Roachy is the epitome of speed and range either. I’ll stand by my prediction of FF getting one as he matures in the next couple of years. After all, he was already nominated in only his 2nd year and I bet he finished in 2nd just behind Adam.
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
10:58 am
I’d wager Bourn is off to DC or Philly.
Venice Jim
October 31st, 2012
10:58 am
Thanks, Tom…
kenhotlanta
October 31st, 2012
10:59 am
Murph: Your secret is safe with me.
Murph
October 31st, 2012
11:01 am
I’d wager Bourn is off to DC or Philly.
If that’s the case then I look forward to our pitchers striking him out often.
I don’t look forward to him getting on base and running at will against McCann, though. All the more reason to dump Hanson, too.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 31st, 2012
11:04 am
If I was gonna go Trick-or-Treating this year, I’d go as BMac in a Yankees uniform…
Trader Jack
October 31st, 2012
11:05 am
Shaun
October 31st, 2012
10:46 am
The Astros are doing some interesting things. They’ll be back on their feet within 4-5 years, I think.
They won’t be hurting for money. In 2014, with the National and Regional TV deals, they’ll have approx $120 million in hand before they sell one ticket
jfp
October 31st, 2012
11:06 am
Lew,
Is Efrim going as a Polished College LH pitcher?
You forgot to mention that throws in the upper 80’s and lower 90’s.
Jeff R
October 31st, 2012
11:07 am
Mac is back, Murph… Let’s hope he guns down Mikey when the time comes.
I do think Wren will shop Hanson. My guess is as part of a package.
Lew
October 31st, 2012
11:08 am
jfp – It goes without saying – he’s polished.
jfp
October 31st, 2012
11:10 am
Didn’t want to leave out any of the details. How is he holding up after the Trout snub?
Shaun
October 31st, 2012
11:17 am
They won’t be hurting for money. In 2014, with the National and Regional TV deals, they’ll have approx $120 million in hand before they sell one ticket
And it seems like they are assembling quite a staff that will know what to do with all that revenue.
Shaun
October 31st, 2012
11:19 am
Didn’t want to leave out any of the details. How is he holding up after the Trout snub?
The Gold Glove just got everyone used to Trout being snubbed.
cricket
October 31st, 2012
11:19 am
Jones > Trout ??
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 31st, 2012
11:20 am
I should go as Posey… or Uggla… or Pastornicky… or as a polished lefty.
Nah, I’ll go as a #1-2. A frontline pitcher. The guy happens to be a free agent this winter, one of 2 premium players on the market… yeah, that sounds good. I’ll be ZG.
cricket
October 31st, 2012
11:20 am
Hardy > Jeter ??
phil
October 31st, 2012
11:22 am
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 31st, 2012
11:04 am
If I was gonna go Trick-or-Treating this year, I’d go as BMac in a Yankees uniform…
**********
LOL
cricket
October 31st, 2012
11:24 am
someone should to as Willingham to TOBF’s door…
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
11:25 am
Is Efrim going as a Polished College LH pitcher?
Sort of, Lew, but I’m really going as “Sample Size”.
Braves hat, glove on my right hand, and a tee-shirt that says “3 months does not solidify me as an above average starter in the Majors”.
With the back of the tee-shirt saying “Coulda got Trout”. Nice fish logo and everything.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 31st, 2012
11:25 am
Or I could go as Russell Martin in a Braves uniform—that would be REALLY scary!…
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 31st, 2012
11:26 am
Hason
: or Willingham 
wouldn’t be bad either
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 31st, 2012
11:27 am
phil
October 31st, 2012
11:28 am
I guess I could go as an empty beer bottle and just throw myself in people’s yards?
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
11:30 am
The Angels are aggressively trying to trade starters Dan Haren and Ervin Santana, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports.
How much are they really expecting to get for them? Would a team sign Ervin Santana to a one year, $13 million dollar deal? Haren for one year, $15.5 million? I guess Haren is more likely.
jfp
October 31st, 2012
11:32 am
Shaun, didn’t get to see Jones or Trout play a lot. Just the highlights. Trout appears to be for real and with that lineup, pitchers will have to pick their poison. If that team meets its offensive potential, they will be even more dangerous. Trout will get plenty of accolades along the way.
Murph
October 31st, 2012
11:40 am
What would Haren’s price be if he hit the open market? Seems with the injury issues $15.5mil is pushing it.
I’d be all for the team taking a look at him should he become a free agent, but that salary plus a player or two in a trade doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.
David O'Brien
October 31st, 2012
11:44 am
I love when people try to look astute by pointing out that their team “could have gotten” so-and-so selected ahead of the actual player their team did in a particular draft. Especially when that player wasn’t the third or fourth pick or whatever and their team took a dog in the first or second spot, but rather the player they’re referring to was an end-of-first-round pick, or even later than that.
In this case, Mike Trout.
Trout was the 25th pick of the 1st round. Not only did the Braves, who selected 7th (Minor), skip over Trout, so did about 20 of the other 30 major league teams, including the Angels themselves (they had consecutive picks and took the great Randal Grichuk with the pick ahead of Trout). A couple of teams had two picks in the top 24 and bypassed Trout.
Among the other teams not nearly as smart as they might’ve been with second-guessing fans as scouting director: Giants (took Zach Wheeler 6th), Nationals (took Drew Storen 10th), Rangers (took Matt Purke 14th), Marlins (took Chad James 18th), Cardinals (took Shelby Miller 19th).
The Royals took Aaron Crow 12th. The poor Diamondbacks, with back-to-back picks, took Bobby Borchering 16th and A.J. Pollock 17th.
I mean, can you believe all these teams could be so dumb?
ncgary
October 31st, 2012
11:47 am
coulda shoulda woulda
ncgary
October 31st, 2012
11:48 am
lol
Murph
October 31st, 2012
11:52 am
Well, here comes the drama that I’ve been craving… nothing beats a good ol’ fashioned blog slap fight.
abeeeewright
October 31st, 2012
11:53 am
“Here’s a chart every Brave hitter should take advantage of.”
This is a bit skewed since there is a whole list of events in a less than 2-strike count that will not result in hits or outs (and therefore affect BA) that do occur in a 2-strike count.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 31st, 2012
11:53 am
IIRC, wasn’t the reason Trout fell due to the high cost to sign him? Not too sure about that.
Maybe if we hadn’t been so cheap… we wouldn’t necessarily need an OF, we could get that SP. Mike Minor is a future #3-4 (basically, Maholm), and Trout is gonna be a MVP-type player for years to come.
Bat Masterson
October 31st, 2012
11:55 am
Wasn’t Trout an under the radar guy because of where he played ball?
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
11:58 am
Otherwise, good point
Guess we could always change it to “Coulda Had Shelby MIller/Drew Storen/Zack Wheeler OR Mike Trout”. How’s that?
Murph
October 31st, 2012
11:58 am
I believe people passed on Trout because rumor was he was about to depart on a 4 year hare krishna mission to Madagascar.
Bat Masterson
October 31st, 2012
11:59 am
Halloween postponed in New Jersey because of the storm.
Shaun
October 31st, 2012
11:59 am
DOB, in fairness, I don’t know that Efrim has argued that the Braves should have known how good Trout was going to be and therefore it was a huge mistake on their part not to draft him at the time. Maybe he has. I certainly don’t want to put words in his mouth either way.
I’m just thinking maybe he’s expressing disappointment more than arguing that the Braves should have known better.
But as far as your overall point, I do think folks are getting in to some gutsy territory by criticizing front offices. They have millions of dollars at stake with almost every player decision they make and they have tons of information. Listening to folks who are insiders and who have inside knowledge of the inner workings of front offices, I’m very careful with my criticisms of front offices. I truly believe the folks who work in front offices are the smartest baseball people on the planet. Those are the last group of baseball folks to criticize.
Bat Masterson
October 31st, 2012
12:03 pm
I wonder how Sookie is holding up
Murph
October 31st, 2012
12:04 pm
I truly believe the folks who work in front offices are the smartest baseball people on the planet. Those are the last group of baseball folks to criticize.
Todd… Van… Poppel.
Bat Masterson
October 31st, 2012
12:05 pm
I truly believe the folks who work in front offices are the smartest baseball people on the planet
I suspect the captains of the universe on Wall Sreet would take issue with you on that claim.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
12:06 pm
Todd… Van… Poppel
Randall…Grichuk.
old man
October 31st, 2012
12:07 pm
So two years ago our front office could have traded JJ and Uggla for Trout?
What are we paying Wren for? Goodness gracious!!
Bat Masterson
October 31st, 2012
12:07 pm
Oh hell
Maybe I should have read that sentence twice before commenting.
Somehow I skipped right over the word baseball
I’ll just sit over in the corner now with my dunce cap on.
I’m used to it
Shaun
October 31st, 2012
12:09 pm
I want to say that I’ve heard the weather was unusually rainy in that area during Mike Trout’s draft year so scouts had a hard time getting a look at him, in addition to teams viewing players from the Northeast with some degree of skepticism because they aren’t able to play baseball as much as they do in warmer climates and the fact that Trout played other sports and teams may have been concerned about him pursuing other sports.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/how-los-angeles-angels-hooked-rookie-phenom-mike-trout-in-mlb-draft-051212
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
12:13 pm
Good grief, anyone who didn’t realize that Efrim was making a joke about Trout (one that I’ve made many times; heck, I may have been the originator) needs to re-insert their humor chip. Mercy.
Shaun
October 31st, 2012
12:14 pm
So two years ago our front office could have traded JJ and Uggla for Trout?
I find that hard to believe, considering Uggla wasn’t traded to the Braves until November of 2010, a little less that two years ago.
Also, by the offseason of 2010/2011 Trout was regarded as one of the top 2-3 prospects in the game. Baseball America had him as the #2 prospect in baseball prior to the 2011 season. So I don’t think there was any time during Uggla’s first season with the Braves that the Angels would have given up Trout for Uggla and Jurrjens.
CB
October 31st, 2012
12:16 pm
With all the dummies who post on this blog I hate to see that kind of shot given to Efrim, one of our most astute posters with great knowledge of the game. Yes,he was obviously joking.
George_George
October 31st, 2012
12:17 pm
Good day all
All is almost good, we have BRIAN back for at least next season. Now all we need is for CHIPPER to unretire and play untill he can end his career with a good regular season game so we will not remember his awfull last game.
Bat Masterson
October 31st, 2012
12:18 pm
I suspect most of us get that, scoots.
Shaun
October 31st, 2012
12:18 pm
Todd… Van… Poppel.
It’s possible, if not probable, that anyone outside a front office would have made a worse pick that year than Van Poppel, if they even knew who Van Poppel was.
Also, a lot has changed in 22 1/2 years since Van Poppel was drafted. Front offices are smarter and have a much better idea as to what they’re doing.
BravePack(FreeFan)
October 31st, 2012
12:18 pm
Alright I wanted to run something by you guys as I’ve been thinking about this the last couple of days. I know most/many and the big guy DOB have said no way Wren goes after Hamilton but can we be sure? Wren has said he will be looking at premium players and he has approximately 25 mil to work with DOB has said even after all player have received raises. Now I know the big arguement is not to strap the Braves down with one big contract but who says that has to happen.
Hamilton hit .285 with 43 HR’s last year and by some was said to have a bad or inconsistent year. I know he comes with baggage but he still puts up big numbers. I think we can all agree the guy wants to be out of the spotlight and the big market teams are not interested, nor I would assume he would be to go there anyway. Hamilton is from North Carolina and may want to be close to home and may actually have grown up a Braves fan. Atlanta media is not that bad and he would be out of big market team spotlight here. The Braves have the $ to spend finally. So with all that being said what if Wren approached him with an offer of like 4 years with option for a 5th year at like 17-18 million a year. We need an impact bat and even though he’s a lefty he still puts up big numbers every year. Then Wren can trade for a CF’er who hits righty.
I just haven’t been impressed with the names out there as impact bats other than J Upton and it doesn’t look like a good match with Arizona. I just remember in years past Wren is usually pretty vocal in saying he won’t go after so and so big name player and I have yet to hear him say Hamilton is out of the question. I’m just saying it MIGHT be a match. The $ is there to spend and no big market teams to haggle against.
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
12:19 pm
I suspect most of us get that, scoots.
At least one person didn’t, obviously.
CB
October 31st, 2012
12:19 pm
Bat,who said you could come out of the corner?
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
12:20 pm
Real quick, DOB – I really appreciate your work. Really do. And don’t take the following to heart and I know you won’t because that’s the way you have to be in this business. But I gotta say….
I mean, can you believe all these teams could be so dumb, Efrim? Maybe they all should get T-shirts made up with “Coulda had Trout” on the back, as you suggest for the Braves?
Let me get this straight…Lew decides to post a nice little jab at me with his 10:43am – which was perfectly fine because it was in good humor, I think. And then DOB decides to jump all over it. Which is again, fine with me because I’m a bigger boy than I used to be and can take it.
But in reality – I have never, not once given the Braves crap for passing on Mike Trout at #7. Not once. Shelby Miller? Yes, wish we got him instead of Minor and I still feel this way. I also wanted Zack Wheeler, Tyler Matzek and Matt Purke as I wanted a HS pitcher with more upside and less of a floor because I’m all about shooting for frontline pitchers that high in the draft rather than safe, mid-rotation starters. Was willing to take that risk. But really, DOB, I was joking with Lew – which you clearly didn’t get, about sample size and not jumping to conclusions on a player from a 3 month sample. Whether it’s Mike Minor or Michael Bourn, I take my time with certain players in assessing whether or not they are this or that. I try not to get excited off short samples like, well, you do for example with Bourn’s initial 2.5 months or Minor’s one start in Zona in April(archives are to the right of the blog if you’d like to reference – although I don’t want to get Random on you).
DOB, in fairness, I don’t know that Efrim has argued that the Braves should have known how good Trout was going to be and therefore it was a huge mistake on their part not to draft him at the time. Maybe he has. I certainly don’t want to put words in his mouth either way.
Nope. Never did. Not seriously, anyway. Trout played in New Jersey and it’s not easy to scout players NJ and up through New England. And Trout wanted a larger bonus above slot – Braves don’t do that.
Good grief, anyone who didn’t realize that Efrim was making a joke about Trout (one that I’ve made many times; heck, I may have been the originator) needs to re-insert their humor chip. Mercy.
Yes, absolutely. But based off of yesterdays comments, I think anything said in a negative manor about Mike Minor was going to get pounced on. And it would be fine if it was warranted hatred. But not my response to Lew. That was all in good fun.
David O'Brien
October 31st, 2012
12:24 pm
Efrim: My bad. I didn’t notice the emoticon until now. Figured you were just being another Monday morning QB, etc. Sorry about that, my man.
And anyone who can’t understand how I’d misread a comment when about 80 percent of them here are negative and caustic, well, then you’re not seeing it from my perspective. It just gets old reading so many “fans” constantly deride and denigrate players, team moves, etc., whenever a game, week, or in this case the season (or postseason, since MLB calls the Wild Card game a postseason game) ending in disappointing fashion. The same folks who do almost nothing else but suggest firings and trade scenarios that will never, ever be discussed.
But again, sorry about that Efrim. Just re-direct that comment to any of the many who’ve made such a comment in earnest, rather than in jest as you did.
flange1
October 31st, 2012
12:24 pm
DOB,
Not sure why the nasty comment to Efrim about his Trout joke.
Folks on the blog have been talking about Minor being drafted to high and that we ‘could have had Trout” for quite a while now.
There are many on this board that like Minor, but feel he was drafted to early and the Braves could have drafted a higher ceiling guy in that spot.
I totally understand that it is speculation on out part if Minor was drafted to high or not.
But to smash Efrim to pieces over a joke is a little much especially when he is one of the most astute and faithful supporters of this blog.
Bat Masterson
October 31st, 2012
12:24 pm
True, scoots.
Just offering a little back up.
Sorry, CB
ncscoots
October 31st, 2012
12:24 pm
But based off of yesterdays comments, I think anything said in a negative manor about Mike Minor was going to get pounced on.
Then, I believe I may just come up with a few nuggets on that bumb. See who I can irritate the most.
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
12:24 pm
At least one person didn’t, obviously.
Proud of myself. Had one thing in that response that I took out after thinking it through a bit.
Efrim
October 31st, 2012
12:29 pm
And anyone who can’t understand how I’d misread a comment when about 80 percent of them here are negative and caustic, well, then you’re not seeing it from my perspective.
In my Tom Jackson voice, “Come on, man!”
DOB, you know me man. Been on the blog since winter of 2006 and have spent countless hours reading your articles. My wife, who doesn’t know you or any of the regs here, jokes with me asking “how is DOB’s day is going?”
I’m not one of the negative in-gamers or crazies who is a blowhard and such on here. I think there is a good faction of regulars on this blog who are smart peeps man. And I know you can split between them by remembering their monikers and such. The guys that have been here a long time.
Just had to say that. Appreciate you, this place and all the regulars here.
And that one day, my work will find out how unproductive I am…..that should be a good conversation.
Gone Viral
October 31st, 2012
12:29 pm
“as I wanted a HS pitcher with more upside and less of a floor”
I haven’t read the past 15 boards or so and I may be stepping into something I don’t fully understand. Acknowledging this, I was someone who posted that entire two-day draft and I can confirm that there were several people who posted viewpoints such as the above. Minor was viewed as safe but limited. While I vehemently disagreed with the opinion then and still do this day, Steve, whatever Cuba’s actual poster nick was and Efrim were all posters who were consistent in their arguments against the selection. Saying any of them is demonstrating a hindsight opinion now is patently false. Now, several of the players mentioned in Minor’s place could not hold a candle to him at the moment but that’s a different discussion for another day.
Gone Viral
October 31st, 2012
12:31 pm
And fwiw, I don’t recall a single person talking up Trout here on the day of the draft.
Efrim's Boss
October 31st, 2012
12:31 pm
YOU ARE FIRED!