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Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:23 am
Murph – Seems to me tht the reason they got Uggla was to hit HR because we needed power in the lineup. Seems to me that’s pretty much what he’s done – hit over 50 HR in his two seasons with the Braves. Yeah, a little consistency would be a good thing, but other than that, like you say, he goes all out on every play and every at bat and that’s the type of player we not only need, but who will succeed more often than they fail. Don’t count Uggla out quite yet.
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
10:25 am
looking for something meaningful in his life.
I think Gattis has found it, myself. It’s called “fastball down, inner half”. He most beaucoup got a love-touch on that particular puppy.
Murph
October 25th, 2012
10:25 am
I’ve watched that Gattis HR clip 6 or 7 times now. Awesome. Thanks for posting it DOB.
Is he definitely going to be starting the year at AAA? LF or C or both?
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
10:26 am
Lew….oh no the bashing will continue until morale improves. I still haven’t finished with Vazquez deal yet.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:27 am
Actually what we have is two holes, due to a retirement and a player about to leave for Free Agency. We have another postion where the starter played injured and still put up the fourth best power numbers of any NL catcher and has been surgically repaired and on his way back by early in the season..
Apparently life holds more crises for some than others.
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
10:27 am
LF or C or both?
Both.
At the same time.
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
10:27 am
How can we have holes at BOTH 3b and LF….
Prado has to be somewhere there….
And thanks for bringing some sanity back here this morning Lew
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
10:29 am
Scoots-
Catching Bugs Bunny….1b Bugs Bunny…2b Bugs Bunny
Hillbilly
October 25th, 2012
10:29 am
Some guys on another local site are trying to figure out if there is another school besides Arkansas to have a former player in the World Series for the last 6 years.
2007 – Eric Hinske with the Red Sox
2008 – Eric Hinske with the Rays
2009 – Eric Hinske with the Yankees, Cliff Lee with the Phillies
2010 – Cliff Lee and Craig Gentry with the Rangers
2011 – Craig Gentry with the Rangers
2012 – Drew Smyly with the Tigers
Anybody know of one?
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:29 am
Dadgum – Have you considered counseling?
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
10:29 am
Dadgum, we have money to spend too don’t forget. We can go after a couple FA’s depending on position and situation. But if a big contract is signed, I hope it’s David Wright over just about anybody else, and I know, I know, he may just wind up a Met next season, but not many others out there inspire much confidence in a long-term, big money kind of way. If not, a trade with KC for a position player or two would be nice. Would REALLY like to see Fowler in CF next year. He’s improved that last 3 yrs in a row and we might catch him in his best years for not a ton of money, plus he’s a local kid…
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 25th, 2012
10:29 am
Delgado and Minor (A future #2 and #3-4) were too much for Wren in a trade for Pence, a 28 yr old hitting over .300. But Delgado/Teheran (future #2s) is fair for Willingham…
Murph
October 25th, 2012
10:30 am
Don’t count Uggla out quite yet.
I try not to, but it’s getting harder to keep the faith. His September helps… hit pretty well to end the season (24 hits in the month compared to the 22 he got over June/July combined)… only 2 HR, but beggars can’t be choosers.
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
10:31 am
Yeah, a little consistency would be a good thing, but other than that, like you say, he goes all out on every play and every at bat and that’s the type of player we not only need, but who will succeed more often than they fail–Lew
Ain’t never gonna happen. Hell if he would just approach Infante’s production of 5 straight years over .270 I would be happy. That’s still failing more than succeeding. I catch your drift though. Failing less would be nice.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:31 am
I kind of think that seeing the Braves win 94 games this year, Medlen’s amazing late season domination and Minor’s excellent development and belief in himself and knowing we have the wherewithall to make the moves we need to make is very therapeutic all by itself.
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
10:32 am
Lew-
If they think THIS is bad, I’m curious as to how they’d handle my college basketball team w/ a 2nd year coach still rebuilding and coming off consecutive 20+ loss seasons w/ under 10 wins
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
10:34 am
Dadgum-
You do realize that Uggla has never been an average guy?
He’s a .250 usually at best POWER hitter…
We all knew what we were getting w/ him…..trying to make him something he isn’t just will give you heartburn and sleepless nights
Bat Masterson
October 25th, 2012
10:34 am
I think Gattis has found it, myself. It’s called “fastball down, inner half”. He most beaucoup got a love-touch on that particular puppy.
Zen power……………… I got a kick out of all the fan shots in that video
cricket
October 25th, 2012
10:37 am
LF or C or both?
Both.
At the same time.
Be realistic
Move Heyward to CF and let Gattis man both LF and RF
At the same time
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:38 am
PTown – I grew up as a Phillies’ fan when they si=ucked so badly that they lost 23 games in a row and then when they finally got good for a year, tanked by losing a 6.5 game lead with ten games left. Then in 68, I moved to Geoirgia and became a Braves’ fan and suffered through I don’t know how many terrible 100 loss seasons and players like Sugar Bear Blanks.
20 of the past 21 Braves seasons were all infinitely better than any of that even having only won one WS.
What we have is a bunch of spoiled Brat fans who don’t really remember or never saw true desperation in Hotlanta.
Murph
October 25th, 2012
10:38 am
I’d love to see Uggla hit .250 consistently over an entire season. Wouldn’t that be something?
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
10:39 am
Zen power……………… I got a kick out of all the fan shots in that video
I was once on vacation in Mexico, many (OK, many many) years ago, and had the opportunity to see a couple of Mexican League games. Fans are like no others. Those folks are into it, I mean.
cricket
October 25th, 2012
10:39 am
How can we have holes at BOTH 3b and LF….
Prado has to be somewhere there….
Prado will be strategically placed between 3B and LF to catch infield fly balls that will not be called anymore..
Jeff R
October 25th, 2012
10:39 am
Wasn’t Uggla a starter for the NL All Star team this year?
Should he have been? Fan vote, huh? A majority could write Hinske in, I believe.
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
10:40 am
P-Town, Ugly Dan owned a career BA of something like .262 coming in from FLA, he hasn’t come anywhere near that already low number since donning a Braves uni. He’s a bust. It’s ok, we can say that. The FO screwed up on that one, it was a bad move. Time to dump the “slump” and move on with players who can maintain a reasonable level of consistency over the course of the season for what they’re getting paid…
Murph
October 25th, 2012
10:40 am
Is there a reason why the Braves haven’t already picked up McCann’s option? They don’t have to wait until the WS is over, right? They just have 3 days after the WS to get it done.
Makes me wonder what they are up to…
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
10:40 am
Lew-
I think we are VERY close to being a good team….just need to fill the holes and fix the bench….
The bench should be fairly easy to fix when you consider they were the MLB worst in 2012…
For the holes, I frankly think ON the field Bourn will be harder to replace, while OFF the field, its obvious Chipper will be tougher…
But I think Martin Prado gets overlooked for his leadership as well…
And like I have said before, just a few players plugged in and this could be a VERY good team when you consider that both Minor and Medlen have the confidence to take the ball and bring it home….
Frankly, it took VERY subpar seasons from McCann and Uggla and what I would call an average year from Freeman to keep us from going further….
I like where we are currently at, but its going to take a focused effort on the part of the front office to get the right pieces to fit the puzzle….
In a month we could be all gung ho about our additions and it could flame out….OR we could feel meh about them and they be the greatest thing ever….
In fact, I believe it was MONTHS ago that I felt like Marco Scutaro would be a SOLID addition to the Braves….but no one had the hindsight to believe he’d be the greatest trade deadline edition of the year….sometimes we just never really know, and that is what sets baseball apart from most other sports.
Sorry for such a long response…..I feel like I was channeling N8
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:41 am
How can Gattis play LF, RF and Catch at the same time when Prado will already be doing it.
Maybe we could just have Prado and Gattis play defense with a pitcher on the mound. Woud certainly cut down on salary needs.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:42 am
Murph – They won’t announce while the WS is going on. Bud Light wants no attention being focues anywhere but on the WS.
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
10:42 am
players who can maintain a reasonable level of consistency over the course of the season for what they’re getting paid…
Well, you’re bound to be disappointed with the other 749 ML baseball players, too. Since none of them ever approach the ideal of “consistency”. Ever.
Bat Masterson
October 25th, 2012
10:42 am
Those folks are into it, I mean.
Absolutely…………… no cell phones in sight
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
10:42 am
May I change holes to decisions. Would that be better? And yes, there is a decision at 2nd. A big one. Just like catcher. Prado is over a huge sample size batting .300 with 15 homers give or take. He makes a 1/4 of what Uggla makes. Prado hustles and works harder than anyone on the team. Is a leader and quite frankly our best player but we have the great wisdom to make him play out of position if you will in favor of a 14 million dollar bust that can’t even field the position as well as Prado. Maybe Wren can’t move Uggla because the trade was so horrendously bad but there is without a doubt no question the Braves would be better with Prado back at 2nd.
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
10:44 am
Maybe we could just have Prado and Gattis play defense with a pitcher on the mound.
The King And His Court, hardball style.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:49 am
Prado won’t be making a quarter of what Uggla makes for very long – about three months.
And prado’s value is exactly what they already having him doing – playing wherever they need him any given day. There just aren’t that many players with that particular skillset and he will never play just one position in a year. It doens’t matter either – as liong as his bat is in the lineup, it doesn’t make a damned bit of difference where he plays – he’ll do a good job wherever it is.
Murph
October 25th, 2012
10:49 am
Lew, is picking up a player option really that big of a news story? Doesn’t seem like it would steal many headlines… unless of course they were to decline the option… that would definitely take some attention away from the WS.
Not that I’m saying that’s what they are going to do. I still think they pick it up. Just curious why they hadn’t done it yet when technically I think they are allowed to do it anytime up to the 3 day post WS deadline.
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
10:49 am
ncscoots, grow up, I said a reasonable level, not hoping for the moon, just what he’d accomplished to date, something around .262, that’s far from unrealistic. Dadgum, I completely agree, Wren needs to dump Uggla ANYWHERE he can for WHATEVER he can get (a bag of used batting practice balls would suffice) and put Prado back at 2B where he belongs. Prado would be now be THE premier NL 2B at this point if this ridiculous move had never been made…
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
10:50 am
Lew-
I can’t say I would constitute myself as spoiled…even w/ the Braves run….
We won 1 WS while I’ve had to watch both the Cardinals and White Sox win around here since then….the Cards twice….
I’m a Bears fan….we havent won a SB since 85 when I was too young to recall it….
My college basketball team had an amazing run in 06 to the Sweet 16 as a 13 seed and the last team in the tournament beating both Kansas and Pittsburgh before going down to Memphis and Calipari’s paid player roster….but besides that, they haven’t ever won the conference tournament since it moved to a neutral site…1 of only 3 to not do so in a 10 team league….and they haven’t won the conference since 1996….
So I would say I am BEYOND due for something good to happen……
Frankly, I couldn’t even imagine being a fan when multiple teams won their respective championships…That may be too much for me to handle….
I can say 1 thing though….winning now I have found means so much more to me than when we won in 95….I mean frankly, I was 13…..I didn’t quite grasp how difficult it was to get there and the joy of winning it
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:50 am
Murph – It doesn’t matter. They will announce those decisions just like they always do – after the WS. Like not talking about trade possibilities – it’s the way they do things.
Jeff R
October 25th, 2012
10:50 am
Then in 68, I moved to Geoirgia and became a Braves’ fan…
Ah, so you missed Steve Carlton’s ‘72 campaign, huh, Lew?
For the uninitiated, Carlton went 27-10 that season. 41 starts, 30 complete games. 8 shutouts. 1.97 ERA. 346 innings pitched. 310/87 SO/BB. WHIP: 0.993.
Compare that to the feeble numbers that the pampered, whimpoid starting pitchers post these days!
That workhorse – R.A. Lil’ Dickey – led the majors with a massive 233 innings pitched in 2012. Hope Lil’ didn’t wear out his arm too badly.
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
10:51 am
I would be waiting to pay McCann’s option too. Up until the final hour. Something about a 6 month rehab with a player you pretty much are assured won’t be around longer term can cause great hesitation. If I was Wren I would choke to death writing the 12 mil check.
Gone Viral
October 25th, 2012
10:51 am
Fowler + Youkilis would be a nice offseason for us if Bourn leaves. I’ve been on the Fowler bandwagon for a while now. Youk would provide intensity this team has lacked since Ken Caminiti (who was hugely popular in the clubhouse during his brief tenure as a Brave). He would also replace some of the lost veteran leadership we lose with Chipper’s retirement.
TennesseePaul
October 25th, 2012
10:51 am
DOB: Gonna be hard to keep this dude down on farm for long.
“How are you going to keep them down on the farm once they’ve seen Karl Hungus?”
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
10:52 am
we’re STILL going with the ridiculous “super-utility” label on Prado? Really?
Jeff R
October 25th, 2012
10:53 am
I think Carlton lost ten games only because the Phils were so bad in ‘72 (59-103)
Bat Masterson
October 25th, 2012
10:54 am
Prado is over a huge sample size batting .300 with 15 homers give or take. He makes a 1/4 of what Uggla makes.
Well he made about 38%, or so. He’ll make considerably more next year.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:54 am
Jeff R – Actually, no I didn’t miss it. I spent a good bit of the summer at home outside Philly (I was going to Mercer by then after having sat out a couple of years).
I saw several of the games Carlton pitched and won – one by a 1-0 score where Carlton hit a HR and another where he won 2-1 and had an RBI triple to win it. I’ve often cited that season as quite possibly the best ever for a pitcher. 27 of the team’s 58 wins – truly amazing.
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
10:56 am
Murph-
There is a mandate that ANY news during the WS is off limits
Gone Viral
October 25th, 2012
10:56 am
If every postseason series were single elimination, here are the results:
Baltimore over Texas
St. Louis over Atlanta
Detroit over Oakland
Cincinnati over SF
NYY over Baltimore
Washington over St. Louis
Detroit over NYY
Cincinnati/Washington = unknown
Detroit vs. Cincinnati/Washington winner = unknown
After round one, three of the next five results would have flipped due to the madness of single elimination. Way to go, Bud Selig!
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:58 am
Label or no label, Prado played five spearate positions last year and they’ll have him moving around again this year nd every year he plays.
WTF difference does it make if he’s in the lineup every day? Not as if it harms his performance or causes a lack of hustle. As a matter of fact, he turning in spectacular plays at all five positions this year having worked hard to become defensively proficient wherever he plays.
I hardly see this as detrimental or a slur on his ability or value.
Murph
October 25th, 2012
10:58 am
I would be waiting to pay McCann’s option too. Up until the final hour.
What, besides McCann’s bandage, is going to change between now and 3 days after the WS?
Lew, I see what you’re saying… perhaps they’ve already picked up the option and and just holding off on the announcement.
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
10:58 am
Lew…..surely you can’t be serious. Maybe Prado fills in as needed to spell a player but that was primarily due to Chipper’s schedule the last two years. Prado is better suited for 2nd. We need a full time bona fide 3rd baseman and power RH bat for LF IMO. We had Prado and Chipper really the last two years doing that the best they could but neither really fulfilled those spots with what we are now searching for. It’s nice to be versatile when occasionally needed but I think it’s best to get a true 3rd and power bat and move Prado to 2nd. That’s easier to say than do but that’s why we extendd Wren. Right?
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
10:58 am
Fowler and Youkilis….
Not impressed….
Youk has aged VERY poorly the last couple years and is injury riddled….
And Fowler is a plus player ONLY the 81 games he plays in Coors…..outside of that, he is replacement level….and nothing more
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:58 am
Should have said as long as he’s in the lineup every day.
Jeff R
October 25th, 2012
11:00 am
I’ve often cited that season as quite possibly the best ever for a pitcher. 27 of the team’s 58 wins – truly amazing.
Lew, I honestly think on a better team Carlton could have conceivably won 35 games.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
11:01 am
I can’t be serious? I’m sorry, I’ll re-evaluate my position.
OK – I re-evaluated and I I still think he’ll play all over the place and there is absolutely no reason he shouldn’t.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
11:02 am
Jeff R – Of that I have little dount – he certainly would have exceeded Denny McLain’s 30 win year had he been on a WS winning team.
Jeff R
October 25th, 2012
11:03 am
If not McCann, who? Ross and Bethancourt aren’t a prime time combo.
Jeff R
October 25th, 2012
11:04 am
Jeff R – Of that I have little dount – he certainly would have exceeded Denny McLain’s 30 win year had he been on a WS winning team.
Easily, I believe.
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
11:04 am
Prado is a 2B playing OF. It shows. He runs poor routs to the ball and gets burnt pretty often. A decent OF plays worlds better out there. I am a huge fan, best hitter on the team, but he belongs at 2B. Not 3B, not LF, definitely not SS despite our bungling manager’s refusal to sit his FLA buddy for any length of time last year. Prado is a 2B. Get over it…
Hillbilly
October 25th, 2012
11:06 am
Should he have been? Fan vote, huh? A majority could write Hinske in, I believe.
See this is what happens when you open all-star voting in April. People load up on votes after a hot month. This is exactly what happened with Uggla. I see no reason why people should be voting after only 3 weeks of baseball,…especially since “It Counts”
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 25th, 2012
11:06 am
If not McCann, who? Ross and Bethancourt aren’t a prime time combo.
Prado or Gattis. Duh
cricket
October 25th, 2012
11:07 am
Prado is a 2B playing OF. It shows. He runs poor routs to the ball and gets burnt pretty often. A decent OF plays worlds better out there.
i remember reading during the season that braves’ OF of Heyward, Bourn and Prado was defensively one of the best, if not the best in majors. can anyone pull stats for this? is my memory correct?
Murph
October 25th, 2012
11:07 am
Youk would be an interesting option in a 3B platoon… he does pretty well against lefties.
A platoon of Youkilis and Francisco would cost, what, $10mil, and probably give the team 25+ HR.
I wouldn’t want either to be a fulltime player, but together they might produce at a reasonable level.
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
11:08 am
Lew…I’m not going all-Vazquez on this Prado thing but if one is to assume that we need a 3rd baseman and LF (which we do) where does Prado play? If he is back at 2nd and we acquire said positions how does he play everywhere? I’ll give you a few games here or there due to injuries but the super versatile Prado is best at 2nd. Uggla is holding the team back IMO from acquiring our true needs. Thus, I see Uggla traded and Prado back at 2nd. Actually, I hope that is what happens.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 25th, 2012
11:08 am
Prado is a 2B playing OF. It shows. He runs poor routs to the ball and gets burnt pretty often. A decent OF plays worlds better out there.
What??? You must be talking about Constanza… I see him do that a lot. Not Prado. Man has a good range out there and is good enough to win a Gold Glove. Try again, dude.
cricket
October 25th, 2012
11:10 am
This is exactly what happened with Uggla.
wasn’t uggla leading all NL 2B in most of offensive categories except AVG, very close to ASG?
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 25th, 2012
11:11 am
Prado had the most Rtot of any left-fielder in baseball (16). 2nd place was David Murphy w/ 12.
For Rdrs, he was 2nd to Alex Gordon, a Gold Glove LF for the Royals. 24-12…. next closest guy had 9
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
11:11 am
but he belongs at 2B. Not 3B, not LF,
You’re aware, of course, that 3B has long been considered Prado’s position defensively.
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
11:12 am
Prado a gold glove OF? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Ken Griffey Jr. is laughing at that from his retirement home in FLA! FAIL!…
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
11:12 am
I also remember an outfield stat on BA and HR from our outfield positions over the last two years. You really don’t want to know where we ranked. Seriously.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
11:13 am
No, I think what needs to be gotten over is the fact that Martin has played different positions in all of his MLB years and will continue to do so.
And as for not bing a decent outfielder? I heard the Braves outfield last year described by quite a few of the “experts” around baseball claiming that they had the best outfield defense in baseball last year. Prado thrw out almost ten runners last year – he was hardly detrimental out there and if you think he was, I don’t believe you watched all that closely.
He’s also a decent first baseman and shortstop, though the only reason I’d play him there is in emergency situations. As for 2B, 3B or LF? He’s more than average at all three positions. I also don’;t remember him as a stellar 2B to begin with. Like anywhere he plays, he’ll give you all he’s got and he’ll work hard enough to make himself credible at any position he plays.
I fail to see how anyone could consider his talent for being an interchangeable part a bad thing or a if it’s an insult that they ask him to do so.
Juan
October 25th, 2012
11:14 am
“There is a mandate that ANY news during the WS is off limits”
Well there no reason to come to the blog for those looking for trade News…Just those stupid comment for trajde rumors or what if,,,,so see ya after WS
Jeff R
October 25th, 2012
11:16 am
See this is what happens when you open all-star voting in April. People load up on votes after a hot month. This is exactly what happened with Uggla. I see no reason why people should be voting after only 3 weeks of baseball,…especially since “It Counts”
The vote starts far too early, and I don’t think it should be fan votes alone that determine who starts on the All-Star teams, though I realize the the MLB give it to the fans for a big marketing ploy.
Let the fans vote, and then have the managers pick the starter from among the top three vote-getters at each position in their respective leagues. That might just tamp down the popularity contest aspects somewhat and build a little more merit into the system.
But it ain’t gonna happen, I know.
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
11:17 am
Opposing teams TESTED Prado to see if he could throw from the outfield his first year out there, he can throw accurately from out there, I give him that. Doesn’t change the fact that he has bad instincts out there and plays the ball off the wall A LOT and poorly at that. His best position is 3B huh? Ask a good 3B about that and see what they think. Prado has an average arm guys. As 3B go, it’s just good enough to get by. Once again, he’s a 2B, all your arguments aren’t going to change that…
Lew
October 25th, 2012
11:17 am
Nine Outfield Assists and only 3 errors in 119 games in LF ast year for Martin. That’s bad? Just not seeing it.
Efrim
October 25th, 2012
11:17 am
Evan Gattis > Jurickson Profar > Dylan Bundy
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
11:17 am
Youk would provide intensity this team has lacked since Ken Caminiti
I dunno, GV, Youklis looks to be the tiniest bit cooked.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
11:18 am
And all your emotional protestations to the contrary will not change the fact that he’s good at all the positions and will continue to play them.
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
11:18 am
Lew….I never said being interchangable was a bad thing. Nothing of the sort. I happen to think the Braves would be better with him at 2nd and then find a 3rd baseman. Prado was exceptional at 2nd BTW. At least good enough to be an all-star anyway.
Efrim
October 25th, 2012
11:19 am
Prado should be at 3B. That’s his best defensive position, imo. He’s fine in LF, very good there. I’d just rather have him and Simmons on the left side of the infield. That’d be a great defensive pairing.
Jeff R
October 25th, 2012
11:19 am
I also don’;t remember him as a stellar 2B to begin with. Like anywhere he plays, he’ll give you all he’s got and he’ll work hard enough to make himself credible at any position he plays.
Prado – Not outstanding at second, no. But much better than the long-gone Kelly Johnson, and better than Uggla.
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
11:20 am
Ask a good 3B about that and see what they think.
Hey, that isn’t just some blowhard opinion I’m trotting out. Believe it or don’t, as you wish. I’m not sure you can embarass yourself any further this morning, anyway.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
11:20 am
And maybe you should go back and actually read what I said. I said nothing about 3B being his besostion. I said he was above average at all of them.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 25th, 2012
11:20 am
Prado has poor instincts… wow. You’re talking of Constanza… he’s the one with terrible instincts in the outfield.
cricket
October 25th, 2012
11:20 am
I also remember an outfield stat on BA and HR from our outfield positions over the last two years. You really don’t want to know where we ranked. Seriously.
i really don’t want to know. but last year our OF offense also should be much better than year before, with full year of Bourn, Heyward rebounding and Prado with his consistent production.
anyway, the guy is talking about Prado’s defense being horrible in OF, which does not seem accurate.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
11:20 am
Best position – I have a selective keyboard. It omits whatever letters it feels like deleting.
Jeff R
October 25th, 2012
11:21 am
Prado should be at third. And for what it’s worth, Prado’s long indicated a desire to return to the infield.
Efrim
October 25th, 2012
11:21 am
I’m okay with Fowler as long as there is an understanding from Colorado that he isn’t a .900 OPS type and probably more of a .750-.780 guy at best. If they are asking for the moon, than the Braves need to pass.
I’d rather not go after Youk. He seems a bit worn down and I’m not sure he is a very good defender at 3rd base any longer.
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
11:21 am
Hey, Lew, agree Prado is versatile. He could probably even catch. Wait a minute, perhaps that’s the answer to McCann’s……..nevermind.
Bat Masterson
October 25th, 2012
11:21 am
Prado is a 2B playing OF. It shows. He runs poor routs to the ball and gets burnt pretty often. A decent OF plays worlds better out there.
Either you have no idea what you are talking about or you’re trolling.
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
11:23 am
Please stop with the defensive statistics, Dan Uggla doesn’t appear all the poor at 2B STATISTICALLY…I have said for years that MLB has changed the way they score hits and errors and defensive statistics are WAY too objective. I know what I see, averaging watching over 100 games every year. Martin was better than Klesko out there, but would he even compare to having Heyward in LF and Pence in right? Not saying I want that to happen, just hypothetically…
Lew
October 25th, 2012
11:23 am
Yeah – What Efrim said. Get that boomer for LF and it all becomes a moot point about Prado playing out there.
Jeff R
October 25th, 2012
11:23 am
Best position – I have a selective keyboard. It omits whatever letters it feels like deleting.
We’ve got something in common, almost. That’s how my brain works.
Arkansas Transplant
October 25th, 2012
11:23 am
Uggla can be moved..it’s not the end of the world, nor is it the end of the world if they don’t move him. Could we replace the inconsistency he’s shown over the last 2 years? Sure. Could we replace the power he’s shown over the last 2 years? It’s possible, but it’s just not probable.
As far as left field, Gattis will not be manning that spot out of ST. Specially if we haven’t added some offensive prowless in CF, which is highly unlikely. Our best beat for not only fixing our holes next year but also providing future value would be to make a trade with Texas for Gentry and Mike Olt. Giving us good, young, inexpensive talent at 2 positions of need.
cricket
October 25th, 2012
11:24 am
I’m not sure you can embarass yourself any further this morning, anyway.
wanna bet?
Lew
October 25th, 2012
11:24 am
Jeff R -My keyboard is possessed by demons.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 25th, 2012
11:24 am
Prado should be at third. And for what it’s worth, Prado’s long indicated a desire to return to the infield.
And Kris Medlen wanted to start… he was lights out. Put Prado back on the infield where he belongs, he’ll be putting on a defensive clinic. Heck, he may hit better (more HR) too.
Bat Masterson
October 25th, 2012
11:25 am
is my memory correct? _ cricket
Yes
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
11:26 am
No way was Prado bad at LF. In fact he graded out in the top 1/3 of LF. But, if we are looking for “the big” RH power bat in a true outfielder. Then Prado probably is not that player. Again, it’s great to be versatile but when the music stops its time to find a seat.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
11:26 am
Dadgum – I remeber back in the dim and dusty past that an Oakland A’s player (can’t remeber who) played a different position in each inning of a game. Prado could do it. Bet he could pitch a scoreless inning if you needed him to. Maybe even put on the catcher’s gear and catch his own pitch, too.