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TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
9:15 pm
Giants!!!!
BFChris28
October 24th, 2012
9:16 pm
Come on Verlander!!!!!!!!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
9:24 pm
JV still can’t pitch in the Series…
Venice Jim
October 24th, 2012
9:30 pm
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Pablo Sandoval– 1st player to hit 2 HR in first 3 innings of any World Series game since Andruw Jones, 1996 Braves
Retweeted by Jayson Stark
ABTSteve
October 24th, 2012
9:37 pm
Shameless plug time. Check out our Atlanta Baseball Talk podcast interview with DOB. DOB weighs in on the wild card loss, the bottle throwing, the leadership void left by Chipper, Teheran and Delgado, Venters and Hanson and the moves for 2013. You can listen here. Thanks.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
9:40 pm
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
This just happened: Barry Zito drove in the #SFGiants’ fifth run on a 97-mph fastball from Justin Verlander.
Oh yeah!
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
9:43 pm
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
May I remind you: AL teams 3-9 in NL parks during last four World Series. It’s a different game, folks.
David O'Brien
October 24th, 2012
9:47 pm
Evan Gattis’ latest homer in Venezuela, a tie-breaker. Gonna be hard to keep this dude down on farm for long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gABm2sAh2go&feature=youtube_gdata_player
By the way, the playoffs last till end of January, but that’s just the last two teams. Playoffs start first week of Jan.
Tumbledown
October 24th, 2012
9:57 pm
Zito (so far at least) is showing that it is not always about power pitching in the post season.
Tumbledown
October 24th, 2012
9:58 pm
Sandoval again!!!!!
BFChris28
October 24th, 2012
9:58 pm
Sandoval … JEEEEEEEEEEEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
9:58 pm
Pablo with a 3 HR game… Pujols did it last year. Ruth (twice) and Reggie Jackson are the others to do so in a World Series game
David O'Brien
October 24th, 2012
9:59 pm
From Jayson Stark on Twitter: Your complete list of men who hit 3 HR in a World Series game: Babe Ruth, Reggie Jackson, Albert Pujols, Pablo Sandoval
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
10:00 pm
Those of us who want the Series to end quickly… join me in rooting for the Giants.
nolie
October 24th, 2012
10:04 pm
geeze what stupidity. Who came up with that list?
NO MORE FREDI
October 24th, 2012
10:10 pm
If Matt Diaz is a Brave next season I might have to cheer for another team. Sick of the good ol boy connections here. Diaz sucks and I still don’t get why he was brought back after letting him go.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
10:17 pm
Great outing from Zito. Awesome.
Venice Jim
October 24th, 2012
10:19 pm
Now I really want MattE to stay here…
Venice Jim
October 24th, 2012
10:20 pm
Adam Kilgore @AdamKilgoreWP
Imagine you went into a coma in March, woke up today and saw Tim Lincecum warming up to relieve Barry Zito in Game 1 of the World Series.
Mixxo
October 24th, 2012
10:29 pm
This is what a team who ‘wants it’ looks like.
Look it over.
Couch Tater
October 24th, 2012
10:34 pm
This is what a team who ‘wants it’ looks like.
You must be watching Duck Dynasty, too.
nolie
October 24th, 2012
10:35 pm
Mixxo
Venice Jim
October 24th, 2012
10:35 pm
So you think the Tigers don’t care about winning?
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
10:56 pm
Let’s go Giants. Win it in 4
nolie
October 24th, 2012
10:58 pm
Panda Power
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
11:04 pm
Maybe Francisco is another Panda? Both weight about the same, though Panda is 3 inches shorter…
Nah, I can’t see it. Panda actually hits lefties well, hits .300 overall, and doesn’t K every other at bat
nolie
October 24th, 2012
11:07 pm
Have to give the nolie seal of approval to most all of what David said in that interview.
I am finally getting him trained…..
Fredo
October 24th, 2012
11:11 pm
if you can make Verlander look bad … yeah, I’d say you have things going in your favor
nolie
October 24th, 2012
11:13 pm
Verlander might be getting worn down
nolie
October 24th, 2012
11:15 pm
c’mon guys, we can’t root against Infante can we?
uga-brave
October 24th, 2012
11:15 pm
polished lefty besting the flame thrower. oh the humanity.
diamondlady
October 24th, 2012
11:15 pm
Any chance we can get Gerardo Parra for Center Field & Chris Johnson for third base from the Arizona Diamondbacks? That way Marteen can stay in left field. Parra has a cannon of an arm
(which we know first hand) & Johnson has some pop in his bat ( besides the fact Chipper’s dad was his college coach wasn’t he?)
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
11:18 pm
Aaron Boone @AaronBoone_ESPN
Love that JV is back in dugout and seems unaffected by tough start. Teammates notice that. Realizes its only one game
Peter Moylan @PeterMoylan
@AaronBoone_ESPN imagine if this one game meant your season. #braves
chipontheroad
October 24th, 2012
11:20 pm
Thnx for the Gattis shot D O’B
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
11:20 pm
Can’t root against Blanco either…or for Melky getting a ring
Posey is a ‘Nole, can’t root against that. Like Cain and Pence.
Go Giants.
nolie
October 24th, 2012
11:24 pm
Go Tigers!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
11:25 pm
Oh, and I can’t root against history either… two teams won 5 elimination games in postseason, both won the World Series. Giants have won 6, only team to win that many.
nolie
October 24th, 2012
11:27 pm
Go Gatteees!!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
11:27 pm
Pagan just missed it…
uga-brave
October 24th, 2012
11:28 pm
gattis has some serious lower body strength.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 24th, 2012
11:35 pm
Giants rock.
ncgary
October 24th, 2012
11:36 pm
well whats the offer for the panda bear now
60 years at 60 mil per year
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 25th, 2012
12:00 am
He’s set to be a free agent after 2014 season… if he gets there, Braves could sign him, move Prado to 2B, and move Uggla (1 yr left of contract)
Everyone should root for the Giants now, gets the offseason here quicker.
Peace, friends.
bravedan
October 25th, 2012
12:03 am
I agree, no more Matt Diaz.
Yunel's Frosted Tips
October 25th, 2012
12:29 am
we need a palm frond update…….
Ward
October 25th, 2012
2:30 am
Hello everyone! Also in trade rumors. The Rockies are considering trading Cuddyer, and Fowler for pitching, and Braves are linked to the Rockies too. Youkilis is mentioned as Free Agent, as well as Cuddyer, and Fowler. Don’t know if Wren is talking now, but interesting that Braves are linked to two teams. Could the Braves actually make a couple of moves. Sign some one, and trade for a couple of players?
Ward
October 25th, 2012
2:32 am
If the Braves lost Bourn? Would Youkilis, Fowler, and Cuddyer be enough?
Ward
October 25th, 2012
3:05 am
All, have a good one! I’ll leave you at that! Could Wren, be talking to Youkilis, and the Rockies? Just a thought that crossed my mind after the trade rumors? Peace my friends, and”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!” I’ll let you think about this? Talk tomorrow……
Bay Area Steve
October 25th, 2012
3:36 am
YFT,
“palm frond update” was strong.
VJ, did I done read it wrong, or’d you call out some other cat on his courage? Do I have to reload?
Jeff R
October 25th, 2012
7:05 am
The Giants are gonna win the series, I think. Better pitching and they’re on a roll.
Couch Tater
October 25th, 2012
7:24 am
Thoughts from the left field…
Ghirardelli should introduce a candy bar called “Panda Bar”.
Couch Tater
October 25th, 2012
7:28 am
More thoughts from the left field..
During the post-game press conference did Panda ask, “Does a pitcher siht in the woods?”
Couch Tater
October 25th, 2012
8:04 am
CB – People have been referring to Christian Bethancourt as CB. Confusing. Needs a nickname.
Tennis, anyone?
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
8:06 am
Evan Gattis’ latest homer in Venezuela, a tie-breaker.
That was a pretty good-lookin’ AB. He opened up a tiny bit early, but it’s hard to argue with the results.
I don’t think you want to pitch the guy down, very much.
CB
October 25th, 2012
8:09 am
Couch,yeah I hate it. I had the name 1st. LOL
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
8:12 am
By the way, the playoffs last till end of January, but that’s just the last two teams. Playoffs start first week of Jan.
I know he wants to make up for the time missed this past season and all, but I hope he’ll re-think the plan to play the entire winter season.
CB
October 25th, 2012
8:18 am
scoots,I thought it was a little confusing. What are they doing until first week in Jan?
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
8:42 am
What are they doing until first week in Jan?
Playing the season? Not sure what you mean.
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
9:07 am
I would really like to see Dexter Fowler in CF next year instead of Bourn. I would also really like to see a platoon of Napoli/Ross behind the plate with an eye towards signing Napoli long-term to backup Betancourt once he’s ready. Anything else would be icing on the cake for me (dumping Ugly Dan HOWEVER it has to be done, signing David Wright to a 6 yr deal-and I know he has an option yr left but so far Mets have not exercised it, making a trade with Kansas City for one of their premier hitting prospects, etc, etc…) Please, Frank Wren, NO MORE OVER THE HILL RE-TREADS!
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
9:11 am
If both Delgado and Teheran spend all or most of next year in Gwinnet, Frank Wren will have some serious “splaining” to do with the fan base…
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 25th, 2012
9:16 am
Otani can’t be signed by an MLB team until April now.. Nippon Ham Fighters selected him 1st in the NPB draft. Shintaro Fujinami was picked 2nd… and he is preferred over Otani by some scouts.
Maybe this will give Frank time to get involved…
jeffrey d
October 25th, 2012
9:27 am
If both Delgado and Teheran spend all or most of next year in Gwinnet, Frank Wren will have some serious “splaining” to do with the fan base…
What “splaining”? Teheran had an ERA over 5 in Gwinnett last year. Clearly he’s not ready. Oh, and he’s also 21.
TennesseePaul
October 25th, 2012
9:31 am
I had to come in and see this. I figure Ef is dying right now. After spending months complaining about the new format and weak teams making it to the WS, he has chosen to root for the weakest team as the WS winner and absolutely loves Verlander… only to see the Giants dominate… I must know, are there any walls without holes punched in them in your area? ( :
GO NL!
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
9:37 am
Absolutley no reason to keep BOTH of them in AAA all or most of next season. If one or both do not figure into our long-term plans, we need to trade one or both for something that does fit into our long-term plans. I’m tired of the sit around and wait and watch approach from Wren which means sitting on a stock-pile of young pitching until it loses trade value for one reason or another. Guarantee you if give a fair shot, Teheran pitches better in Atl than Gwinnet. But regardless, we need other pieces, and if those 2 aren’t needed (maybe they are but if not) they need to be sent somewhere else for something we do need, i.e. players who ACTUALLY hit the ball, etc…
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
9:43 am
Anyone watching the game last night knows the game was over when that ball hit the 3rd base bag. Those things are game changers and deflate the defense. Not saying Detroit would have won but no way would Verlander have left the game prior to the 5th. I stick with Detroit in 6 but Verlander must win game 4.
Also I have been thinking about the Braves for 2013 and without question our biggest need is a 3rd baseman. Too premier of a power position to be manned by someone that doesn’t project 20 homer potential and excellent defense. We have nobody in our system that fits the bill. Thus, I suspect Wren will make a huge trade for a power bat to fill the void. With that said, Prado will move to 2nd full time and Uggla will be peddled probably to the AL while he still has some value. If Uggla sticks around another year and sucks the Braves are in a worse position. Time for Wren to admit his bad Uggla trade and right the ship. Get a bona fide 3rd baseman and put Prado at 2nd. Eat some cash and move Uggla.
Rock on…..and yes, I can live with Wren keeping McCann this year if Uggla is moved. No way can they keep both players. Do you realize the Braves had two all-stars in Prado and Infante then Wren trades one away and moves the other out of position to acquire a total bust to fill in for an all star. Probably as big a gaffe of any GM in recent years. It was a horrible trade from day one and two years and 24 mil paid to date it is even worse. No question this is the Braves biggest need and with McCann’s issues…..oh hell, don’t even get me started. Peace out.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 25th, 2012
9:43 am
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Marco Scutaro has now taken 89 swings this postseason. He has missed twice.
Twice!!! Ain’t that something…
Yeah, there isn’t a reason to keep both of them in AAA. Assuming Hanson is kept, trade both those guys for Willingham… maybe Span too. Those 2 guys don’t really have a huge role in future plans. Makes them trade bait. And Willingham is better than Pence was….
Venice Jim
October 25th, 2012
9:47 am
BAS – other way around…
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
9:48 am
Ok guys….good morning first of all….
Second, and I know I am really getting ahead of myself, but does anyone else see Gattis and read his story and see his talent and immediately think Josh Hamilton….
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
9:49 am
Be careful there TOBF….
You’ll immediately be told thats not a large enough sample size to prove that making contact makes him a better player
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
9:49 am
Willingham will be 33 next year, no thanks
jeffrey d
October 25th, 2012
9:50 am
Do you realize the Braves had two all-stars in Prado and Infante then Wren trades one away and moves the other out of position to acquire a total bust to fill in for an all star
Wasn’t Uggla a starter for the NL All Star team this year?
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
9:51 am
And lets not get hasty VJ….
I like Diaz as much as the next guy, but I can’t see any grouping of 5 players here where he makes our bench better….
Sometimes you just gotta let the ship sail off
While was once the hot babe down the block, I think we have now moved on and are looking for better lookers with more to offer
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
9:53 am
P-town: “sample size” hahahahahahahaha gotta love the silly Shaun and his ridiculous love of the larger sample size:)
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
9:53 am
A total bust?
Cmon…at least be reasonable here
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
9:54 am
JD-
Apparently most people tend to forget that if it wasn’t for the Jack Wilson error and the Kimbrel blown save in Game 162, Dan Uggla and his huge HR gets us into the playoffs last year
Murph
October 25th, 2012
9:54 am
I wish we had a player who would rise to the occasion and go 4-4 with 3 bombs.
Sigh.
P-Town Brave ©
October 25th, 2012
9:55 am
BFS 80’s -
The thing is, I think Shaun is really trying to tell us something when he discusses “small sample size” and I don’t think it has anything to do w/ baseball….
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
9:55 am
I think “total bust” is an accurate term here in regards to what he’s been paid vs what he’s given in return…
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 25th, 2012
9:56 am
Willingham will be 33 next year, no thanks
34… and I’m not expecting him to replicate his 2012 numbers. How can we even call him a 30 HR 100+ RBI guy when this was the first time he’s ever done it? At 32? If he were 27-28, yeah sure he has a chance to repeat/build upon those numbers. However, at 34, he’s likely to decline off of those numbers, and possibly have a sharp decline. I can’t trade Delgado for that.
Last year, a trade for Willingham would have been called “disappointing”. And Delgado/Teheran would not have been traded. Yet a year later, when he’s now 34, and not likely to get better, that’s a fair trade? I can’t wrap my head around that one.
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
9:56 am
Jeffry D …. Come on man. You know what I mean. Uggla was voted in on the past production. Infante and Prado were voted in because they were both worthy and hitting well over .300. Not to mention better defensive and versatile players. Just admit that Uggla is a bust. You will sleep better.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 25th, 2012
9:59 am
Murph: That player is a free agent after the 2014 season… he’ll be 28. In his prime. Making 8.25mil that final season. Maybe, just maybe, he gets to FA, we sign him, move Prado (who’d be 30-31) back to 2B. Uggla would have just 1 year left on his contract, maybe we could trade him…
Dreaming again.
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
10:03 am
Oh I agree P-town, sometimes Shaun makes a good, common sensical point, but it’s often lost in all the rhetoric he throws out trying to go all “Bill James” on everybody. Regardless of how you view the advanced statistics, there is still a lot more to the game of baseball than a stat sheet…
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
10:03 am
Well also there is precedent for moving Uggla as the Braves have demonstrated. Remember old Lowe and his salary? Thought so. Except for that great Sept run he had the man couldn’t play a radio. So, we ship him off and eat millions. Give Uggla his due on HR’s but otherwise the man can’t play a radio either. Wren needs to admit his mistake and trade Uggla. I’ll sleep better.
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
10:07 am
I wish we had a player who would rise to the occasion and go 4-4 with 3 bombs.
Ruth is dead, Jackson is retired, and Pujols is signed elsewhere, so I guess you’re out of luck.
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
10:08 am
Oh yeah, that couldn’t have been the same Infante playing 2nd for Detroit last night could it? Say it was? Well now just damn. Guess not even Ozzie could screw him up.
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
10:09 am
I don’t want to take the time to look it up, don’t really care anyway, but I bet Uggla had one of the worst All-star (starting at that) seasons ever that wasn’t a fairwell nod to an aging future HOF or some such senario…
Murph
October 25th, 2012
10:12 am
Ruth is dead, Jackson is retired, and Pujols is signed elsewhere, so I guess you’re out of luck.
We’ve got plenty of players who are capable of doing it… they just never do.
Efrim
October 25th, 2012
10:12 am
Willingham will be 33 next year, no thanks
34… and I’m not expecting him to replicate his 2012 numbers.
So tired of the Willingham, Hanson bashing and the Bourjos boosting.
Basically anyone on the dark side of 30 stinks and everyone who is young is awesome. Just awful logic when we’ve seen a 35 year old Carlos Beltran own pitchers throughout the entire season. Just because hitters are in their 30’s doesn’t mean they are destined to stink.
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
10:13 am
I wonder what Brandon Phillips thought about Ugly Dan starting at 2B in the All-star game this year?:)
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:15 am
Of course, it’s typical that no one here has even considered – that Uggla puts up a very good season this year and he plays out his contract in Atlanta. But that could NEVER happen because players who have a sub par year never come back to norms – ever.
Murph
October 25th, 2012
10:15 am
So tired of the Willingham, Hanson bashing and the Bourjos boosting.
And just think, we’ve still got a month and a half until the winter meetings.
Hopefully Wren is having conversations now and will make his moves quickly. I can’t even imagine what the blog will be like if we head into January with any of the big holes in the lineup still remaining.
Gonna get ugly around here.
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:17 am
Dadgum – Trouble sleeping? Try Ambien.
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
10:17 am
but I bet Uggla had one of the worst All-star (starting at that) seasons ever
You guys have that Uggla bee in your bonnet buzzing so loudly, it’s turning your brains to mush. Uggla made the AS team because he had a great two months to start the season. Unless you think that voters should be able to see into the future and take note of his failures later in the season, there’s little reason to denigrate his selection this past year.
Omar Infante has not had even an average OBP since he left Atlanta, and has, in fact, turned into a total out-machine. Anyone who thinks the Braves got the worst of that deal, I don’t know what to tell you.
BravesFanSince80s
October 25th, 2012
10:18 am
It’s pretty well established that catching a player in his mid-30’s and trading away the farm for him, or committing serious money to him has not panned out well for most teams who have tried that, so I’m not very sure what your point is. Hanson sucks DDD, his mechanics were a red flag to me from the first time I saw him pitch years ago and he’s dragging our rotation down as a result. Give me Teheran in his spot next year any day, even if we have to go through some “growing pains” with him as a result. At least slow runners won’t be stealing 2B on him on a nightly basis if nothing else…
Lew
October 25th, 2012
10:19 am
Murph – If Wren does what he typically does and gets the moves done quickly, all that will result is extra time to bitch and complain about the moves he made.
Murph
October 25th, 2012
10:19 am
Lew, based on Uggla’s performance in a Braves uni thus far, except a month here and a month there, couldn’t it be argued that what we’ve seen is his new norm?
I like Uggla and have trouble bashing him ’cause he hustles more than anyone else in the lineup, but man o’ man, I sure would like to see some better results at the dish.
ncscoots
October 25th, 2012
10:21 am
We’ve got plenty of players who are capable of doing it… they just never do.
You’re a tough room, Murph.
Bat Masterson
October 25th, 2012
10:21 am
Second, and I know I am really getting ahead of myself, but does anyone else see Gattis and read his story and see his talent and immediately think Josh Hamilton….
Hum….. A first pick crack head verses a guy that smokes a little pot and drinks a few beers, while bouncing around looking for something meaningful in his life.
Put me down for no.
Murph
October 25th, 2012
10:23 am
Uggla’s slash line at the end of May: .267/.379/.455/.834
Uggla’s slash line at the end of July: .208/.344/.361/.706
22 hits in 2 months… only 2 multihit games over that span.
Yikes!
Dadgum.....
October 25th, 2012
10:23 am
Well as I see it we have big holes at 2nd, C, 3rd, LF, & CF for very different reasons. That’s only 5 of your starting 9. Some holes will close quicker than others but someone give me one good reason the Braves shouldn’t put Prado back at 2nd and trade for a 3rd baseman and power RH bat for the outfield while moving Uggla out. Seriously I don’t think there is one. Not that there isn’t and its not easy I know. Just asking.