Braves extend GM Wren, promote assistants

Before the Braves begin to reshape their roster this offseason, they reaffirmed those who would be making the decisions. The Braves have extended general manager Frank Wren’s contract through 2014, the team announced Friday morning.

Wren has been in that role for the past five seasons and in the Braves front office for 13. He was first hired as an assistant general manager in October of 1999.

The Braves also promoted two of Wren’s top assistants. Bruce Manno was promoted from assistant general manager and director of player development to vice president and assistant general manager/player development. Manno has been in the assistant general manager’s role for five seasons and began overseeing the Braves minor league system last season.

John Coppolella, who was the Braves director of professional scouting, was promoted to assistant general manager. Coppolella has been in baseball operations for the Braves for six seasons.

“These changes are a reflection of the good work and success of our Major League baseball team and the work of Frank and his senior staff,” Braves president John Schuerholz said in a press release.

The Braves promoted four other executives on their business side; including vice president of ticket sales Paul Adams, vice president of corporate partnerships Jim Allen, vice president of marketing Gus Eurton, and vice president of facility operations Eric Perestuk.

185 comments Add your comment

reckingball

October 12th, 2012
9:39 am

reckingball

October 12th, 2012
9:41 am

now,………. don’t trade Delgado

Reid in EAV

October 12th, 2012
9:48 am

Continuity and professionalism. Hallmarks of this organization. As Chipper said, just two managers and two GMs in a 19-year career is pretty special and unique.

WHAT A CROCK!

October 12th, 2012
9:54 am

Wren needs to be run out of town in front of the closest speeding 18 Wheeler.

Miami Dave

October 12th, 2012
9:55 am

Good move indeed. Hope you can find a way to build to the nucleus of our young team and keep Ross in the fold.

Miami Dave

October 12th, 2012
9:57 am

@What aCrock- what’s wrong? 94 wins not enough for you?

lee maye

October 12th, 2012
10:04 am

Miami Dave: Please see if you Miami folks can take Fredi back and take Wren and Uggla too. Heck, we will throw in Hanson, Uggla, and Fredi and Wren for your disgruntled relief pitcher.

Gene

October 12th, 2012
10:07 am

Saltamacchia, Andrus, Harrison, Feliz, McLouth, Lowe, Kawakami.

Brave New World

October 12th, 2012
10:10 am

Wilson

October 12th, 2012
10:29 am

WHAT A CROCK! You have no idea what the Front Office job description is for the Braves, let alone the duties of a Major League GM such as Wren so just stop and get back to your drive thru window and your Fries. Learn how to say thank you as the customer drives away and don’t forget the napkins or ketchup you genius.

GTAlford

October 12th, 2012
10:35 am

Gene – Saltalamacchia, Andrus, Feliz and Harrison were all Schuerholz. Lowe and Kawakami were misses, but hard to fault the McLouth trade.

Scott Boras

October 12th, 2012
10:37 am

Pay the man!

Rick

October 12th, 2012
10:37 am

It seems obvious that the Braves are happy with where they are and have been for the past 10-12 years.

Liberty Media is getting much appreciation for the value of the team, servicing debt and the CEO getting $80,000,000 bonuses.

All is well…..

If I was a season ticket holder, I will not pay the organization another dime until a dedication is made to get better.

Sleeze

October 12th, 2012
10:40 am

EVERY GM makes bad moves and bad signing. Wren’s abour part or a little above average. Given the salary restrictions he’s dealing in a division full of teams that are suddenly big spenders, Wren’s certainly enough to keep his job.

Sleeze

October 12th, 2012
10:40 am

EVERY GM makes bad moves and bad signing. Wren’s abour part or a little above average. Given the salary restrictions he’s dealing in a division full of teams that are suddenly big spenders, Wren’s certainly enough to keep his job.

what you eat for breakfast?

October 12th, 2012
10:54 am

Does anyone else feel that it is going to take a long time to get this bad october out of our mouths? Baseball seems like the only sport that feels like such a let down when your team loses in the postseason I mean we follow these teams from Feb-Oct, 162 games, and then lose. I always feel so down especially when the Braves lose. I never get this down when the Falcons, Bulldogs, or Hawks lose in the postseason, something about the length of the baseball season and then losing like we did this year makes me feel like the season was just a waste to watch and cheer for :( anyone else feel this way?

DOB is it possible the Braves need to shake everything up to do away with the old “90s/early 2000″ team mentality? Should Turner Field be renamed or maybe a new stadium built in another few years? Should the uniforms be changed? Should we remove all the pennants in the outfield to fully shake the old October problems this franchise has had.

Thanks Mr. DOB.

Brave New World

October 12th, 2012
11:05 am

This October we were in a playoff game. We won 94 games in 2012. This October is far less painful than last October when we imploded and did not make the playoffs. Though I felt we would win the one game playoff, the 4 errors (3 by Braves and one by Sam Holbrook, umpiring wizard) prevented this from happening. Crummy ending to a great season. GO BRAVES!

Felix

October 12th, 2012
11:18 am

Shucks, but no surprise.

BusterBrave

October 12th, 2012
11:30 am

OK,Time to get to buisness, Tommy Hanson for Peter Bourgeous-CF- Calfornia Angels……Mike Trout’s position……fast and good fielder………or…..Tommy Hanson for Lorenzo Cain-CF- Kansas City Royals….young,fast and with some pop in bat…….Rajia Davis-OF/CF-Toronto Blue Jays….veteran,productive,great outfielder,and had as many SB’s as Bourn…….Chop-Chop……….. :-)

Dawgdad (The Original)

October 12th, 2012
11:31 am

Braves always want to lock up mediocrity in a long term contract. Hey, we don’t want to return to the 80’s, right. Next, lock up Homer Hanson to a long term deal.

Yuuup

October 12th, 2012
11:32 am

Neither like nor dislike this move. While the Braves have had some winning seasons since he took over, they still either choke and don’t make the playoffs, or they bow out in the first round. So if you like winning 90+ games in the regular season, and being a stepping stone in the playoffs, Frank Wren is your man.

Bill M.

October 12th, 2012
11:36 am

By extending Wren for one year could mean that the Braves will be sold in near future. How many years does Fred G. have left? Don’t look for the Braves to pay out big money this offseason.

BFAN

October 12th, 2012
11:48 am

Until he figures out how to get the braves a 2b he hasnt done his job. He is responsible for the Most Overpaid Overrated Player in baseball being on the braves. With a real 2b they win the div going away. Hits less than 200 for 4 mths and plays terrible D, no range no glove no arm! If FW is playing the braves back the 10plus mil a year the MOOP costs he can stay.

Gil in Mechanicsville

October 12th, 2012
11:56 am

I think Frank Wren has done a good job, especially when you take into consideration the budgetary constraints he has to work under. Yes, some hits and misses on signings but fewer than most GMs. Perhaps the hardest way to build a consistent winner is trying to rebuild on the fly. Other teams go through 5 year cycles.

As for getting over the frustration of being bounced out in the first round, it was easier to get over than last year’s nose dive.

At the end of it all, there will be 29 teams bemoaning their failures. That said, it is nice to see the Os going toe to toe with the Yankees and Nats fans everywhere are thinking Jason Werth has earned every penny of his ridiculous contract with one swing last night.

tc

October 12th, 2012
11:58 am

I think we should keep Wren around if for no other reason he is lucky. He almost traded for Jake Peavy and was turned down, he tried to sign Burrnett and was turned down, he got duped by Furcal’s agents, and he got turned down by Dempster. All of these might have been moves would have blown up in his face. He is bullet proof!

single white dove

October 12th, 2012
12:06 pm

“These changes are a reflection of the good work and success…”

Really???

single white dove

October 12th, 2012
12:07 pm

Miami Dave

October 12th, 2012
9:57 am
@What aCrock- what’s wrong? 94 wins not enough for you?

Not winning a World Series or playoff game….

Why?

October 12th, 2012
12:12 pm

The big question is where was the McLouth last night when he was here?

Paddy

October 12th, 2012
12:19 pm

Carroll………was Liberty Media part of the festivities to honor Chipper during his last homestand? Did they present him w/ any gifts or momentoes?

Paddy

October 12th, 2012
12:19 pm

Carroll………was Liberty Media part of the festivities to honor Chipper during his last homestand? Did they present him w/ any gifts or momentoes?

Turd Ferguson

October 12th, 2012
12:26 pm

Sorry but A-fraud is the most overrated, overpaid. Uggla looks like a deal compared to him.

Tumbledown

October 12th, 2012
12:28 pm

Breakfast- Does anyone else feel that it is going to take a long time to get this bad october out of our mouths? …. DOB is it possible the Braves need to shake everything up to do away with the old “90s/early 2000″ team mentality?

I am more optimistic after this October then I was after the September collapse of last year. If we can add Shane Victorino and another steady-eddy type of hitter to the lineup and somehow retain Delgado/Teheran, I think the future looks fairly bright for the next couple of years. After last September, I thought for sure the team was headed down, down, down.

The mentality of the 90’s and early 2000’s was not so bad. Those teams netted us a WS win and four other WS appearances. If not for a base running blunder here and some poor relief outings there, those Braves’ teams could have won one or two more WS.

If you want an “out there” kind of suggestion, I wish the fans would ditch the chop and chant. I love seeing stadiums where the crowd is cheering like mad and waving a towel or something. In reality, though, this would not make any difference to the results.

Homer the Brave

October 12th, 2012
12:29 pm

Time to get Zack Greinke.

Tumbledown

October 12th, 2012
12:31 pm

I was initially a proponent of going after Swisher. But he appears to be another playoff fraud. The Braves do not need more of those.

wag

October 12th, 2012
12:43 pm

He has actually done a good job working in the parameters he has been given. Now go get Denard Span who is career .293 hitter against lefties and a great centerfielder, or Ben Revere or Dexter Fowler both of whom are from Atlanta. Revere can fly and Fowler can hit.

Doug, Nashville

October 12th, 2012
12:45 pm

It looks to me that some of the players are not cooperating with the hitting instructors. If this is the case they need to ride the bench until they try.

Rick C

October 12th, 2012
12:51 pm

wag, Fowler can hit at Coors field. Check his home/road splits.

Rick C

October 12th, 2012
12:51 pm

Homer the Brave, they need hitters right now, not pitchers.

BillEGoat

October 12th, 2012
12:54 pm

The loss in the one-game playoff colors thr opinions of a lot of fans. I would have felt better if the Braves lost a 2-1 well-played game to the Cardinals, but the infield errors and an overall sloppy performance made it seem even worse. The Braves are usually excellent for 162 games but do not come up big in playoffs, usually come off small. That is not really Wren’s fault. It has been a hallmark of the Atlanta franchise for a number of years, BEFORE Wren. The Braves never seem to have the players who get hot for the playoffs, the two or three guys who make the big plays. I think the team has collpased in post-season so many times that it might have become, partially, a mental thing, they “expect” it to happen. Can’t blame Wren too much for that. As a ML GM, he probably gets about a C-plus grade, maybe B-minus. It will be a challenging off-season for the franchise, and we’ll know more about Wren when we see how he handles it.

Patrick

October 12th, 2012
1:08 pm

yay

that’s a sarcastic yay for anyone who is wondering

Semper Fi Braves Fan

October 12th, 2012
1:35 pm

The Braves won 94 games, had the least amount of errors in baseball, and lost a game in which they gave up 4 unearned runs and lost by 3.

Frank Wren put a team on the field to win. Chipper Jones is responsible for 3 unearned runs, Uggla is responsible for the other. The game should have been won with a final score of 2-3.

If the Braves finished 500 or worse, then I would agree… run him out of town. However, based on budget restraints he put together a great team with an idiot manager.

ricocarty21

October 12th, 2012
1:37 pm

1 world series win in 16 playoff attempts in recent history speaks volume. Now,let me say Chipper is a good person but the bottom line is he does not perform well under pressure and is basically a loser when it comes to the big game. He just did not deliver with his bat and literally threw the game away into right field. In private, he probably would admit it.
In addition, corporate ownership put dollar limits on how much additional help could be brought in to compliment C.J. and shore up the starting pitching. I am glad Chipper can not be the scape goat anymore, we will see if this organization can put together a real winner without the overpaid senior superstar. Management knew they needed a legit right handed power hitting outfielder but did nothing. Unfortunately, Chipper could have drank a gallon of vinegar and felt better than he did in his last game in Atlanta. I wish Ted Turner would have never sold them.

Wren grooms LOSERS!

October 12th, 2012
1:49 pm

92 wins is not enough……Only winning the World Series is enough……and the Atlanta FLOPS Braves just can’t seem to get that done…..and as long as WREN is here we sure won’t! Fire the dirtbag.

don

October 12th, 2012
1:51 pm

Big mistake.

G

October 12th, 2012
1:55 pm

I’m not surprised that an organization mired in mediocrity would extend a mediocre GM. Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over with the same bad results.

Humbug

October 12th, 2012
1:59 pm

I will not be surprised if Wren packages Prado, Hayward, and Freeman for a 36+ year old pitcher with a 6-19 record.

Rick C

October 12th, 2012
2:13 pm

Wren grooms LOSERS!, so in your opinion should 29 teams be firing their GMs at the end of every season?

Rick C

October 12th, 2012
2:14 pm

G, so a 94 win season is mediocre now?

Larry30

October 12th, 2012
2:27 pm

The trade with Texas giving away our minor league talent for texeira taking us nowhere was the work of the former self proclaimed legend and genius, schuerholz. The rest of the list belongs to Wren. Schuerholz loved trade away talent, Wren just prefers to over pay for it.

Larry30

October 12th, 2012
2:30 pm

I guess 94 wins puts more fannies in the seats at turner field but what is the goal coming out of the spring? One playoff appearance since 2005? Unless you count the farcical wild card play in game the playoffs.

Rick C

October 12th, 2012
2:33 pm

Larry30, whether you consider it or not, the WC game was the playoffs. Stats were separate, not a 163rd game, etc. They obviously didn’t perform in the game and also partly lost due to an unforgiving new format, but that’s no fault of the GM.

Frodo

October 12th, 2012
2:40 pm

WHAT A CROCK is pretty much right on it. Wren is one of the worst GMs in MLB. No focus whatsoever on OBP. He’s constantly trading young talent for older washed up players that suck up millions in payroll. Kotchman, Dunn, Melky, McCout, the Derek Lee deal? Come on. What about the free agent signing of Glaus?? Horrible. Name ONE deal this guy has made that is productive. And don’t say the Cubs trade. Get somebody in here that can evaluate players and bring in young talent with a bright future, rather than trading them away and paying premium dollars for shriveled up old men because you think you just might have a chance of winning a playoff game. Our inability to score, yet again this year, was a joke. Do you people forget what he almost gave up in July for Dempster???!!! Somebody mentioned 94 wins. Yeh. With Schuerholz players. Wait until you see the long-term effects this guy will have on the organization and of course the fact that we’ve fired all of our good scouts. Stop blindly supporting this guy. You sound UGA fans and their idiotic support of Birdhair Richt.

And stop talking about Greinke. There are much better deals out there for SPs. We just unloaded a whole mess of payroll and you doofuses want to waste it all on a starter with 2.5 good seasons on file.

Larry30

October 12th, 2012
2:48 pm

It’s his team. And I’m over the excuse making with regard to payroll. Baltimore, tampa, Cincinnati, Washington all had lower payrolls than the braves. I only include Tampa because they are consistently in the mix With an average payroll of $57 million the past five years. Would Bobby consider coming back as GM? He was the real architect of our team in the 90’s. And im not one of those who is critical of oe world series victory. Just to get in the series is an incredible accomplishmen and some teams wait for generations to win a championship…..any cubs fans still around from 1908? I do think the clubhouse is better off without chipper. He was a habitual loafer and pretend leader. A great hitter, though.

Rick C

October 12th, 2012
2:56 pm

Frodo, what young “talent” that was traded away in any of those deals have actually produced at the ML level? The McLouth trade for example: in their careers so far Morton has a 5.06 ERA, Locke a 5.82 ERA, and Hernandez a 192/267/301 slash line. And those players you named that they traded for were all young except Derek Lee. As far as a productive deal Wren has done, Bourn is a great example.

Fastball

October 12th, 2012
2:57 pm

Well we see, not a big fan of Wren in spite of his record. Maybe it’s just me

Larry30

October 12th, 2012
2:58 pm

Hey Frodo…..without Glaus in 2010 there would have been no playoffs for this team since 2005 except for the joke last Friday night. How quickly we forget. Chipper was stinking it up all spring, drove down to turner field the middle of June to have a pity party and discuss retirement with the brass. The braves were in last place at the end of April. Troy Glaus caught fire, became the national league player of the month in may and at the end of that month the braves had taken over first in the division. Glaus became injured, was exiled by Wren, and wasn’t given another chance to compete until game 2 that Friday night in SF where he made one of the greatest defensive plays ever for this franchise by having the guts to go for the DP with the bases loaded and one out in a tie game. He knew it was a crapshoot with Kyle farnsworthless on the mound having to face another batter. Chipper had injured his knee in July or he would have certainly gone home on the play giving the giants another crack at Kyle where we would have probably lost the game. Troy Glaus carried the braves on his shoulders for about six weeks in that spring of 2010.

Kentavo

October 12th, 2012
3:13 pm

That Glaus DP was classic. I still can’t believe it.

Larry30

October 12th, 2012
3:21 pm

It was classic and a perfect example of a player being mentally engaged in the contest. He had decided what he was going to do before the pitch was even made, signalling over to Prado that he was coming to 2nd if the ball was hit to him. Very gutsy, very professional. But he was a world series MVP playing 3rd for Arizona.

Peter

October 12th, 2012
3:34 pm

What a MISTAKE……… WOW.. forget about going to the Big Series until he is GONE.

The Braves will now be a bridesmaid for many season’s !

Peter

October 12th, 2012
3:37 pm

Good thing he traded Blanco and Infante away……. those guys have a shot at a title now !

More softball type roster in the future ! Slow and fat is the team we will have…..

Gee even Bourne had an off year stealing bases…… station to station baseball is all we can hope for, and the pitchers must throw shut outs to win !

Peter

October 12th, 2012
3:40 pm

However, based on budget restraints he put together a great team with an idiot manager.

Really ???? He hired the idiot…… and please many teams with less payroll money are wining and competing better than the Braves.

Where are the clutch hitters he has brought to Atlanta ?

Klaus

October 12th, 2012
3:46 pm

Why now? He has a year left on his deal. I doubt other teams are circling the Braves FO at this point.

Chipper, Heyward and a late impossible surge by Medlen are why the Braves won 94 games and made the WC.

Medlen was an impossible to predict dumb luck success story. Chipper wanted to go out with class and Heyward is being patient at the plate.

Uggla continues to stink at the plate and in the field. The bench is garbage, Mac may be a 12mm sink hole in 2013 and we wasted 10mm in 2012 paying for Lowe.

Also 90mm is not a hardship. Please stop getting the violin out for a team with a 90-92mm payroll.

They have managed it poorly but they are not living in a soup kitchen.

Wren is a solid C+ GM. The GM in STL, SF, DET, WASH (sans the Strasburg move) are worlds better. Also watch the Cubs make hay with Viz (guy we traded 3mos of Malhom and Reed) as a starter not a closer.

Klaus

October 12th, 2012
3:49 pm

Chipper forgot to mention two managers and two GMs in 20+ years with no ring since 1995 and either one and done in the WC round or more often missing the post season entirely.

Maybe they should have made some changes in those two areas. You don’t win rings for stable FO staff. That isn’t a sport.

BRAVESFAN

October 12th, 2012
3:54 pm

Still no job for Ricky Mast?

Rick C

October 12th, 2012
4:02 pm

Peter, Bourn was still second in the NL in SB this season.

Of the other 9 post season teams, 4 had lower payrolls than the Braves but only 2 ended the season with better records. Not exactly “many.”

Klaus, so the Braves made the WC because they performed. Isn’t that what they are supposed to do? Medlen would not have even been in the rotation probably if Beachy hadn’t got hurt.

3 of those GM’s teams have much bigger payrolls than the Braves. And while I would agree Rizzo has made some good deals, getting Gio in particular, he’s given some bad contracts too. Werth was way over payed, under performed last year, and was out with an injury most of this year. Zimmerman also seems to have constant shoulder issues and his contract will probably come back to bite Rizzo as well.

Rick C

October 12th, 2012
4:06 pm

Oh and 3 months of Maholm is not accurate. He has a very affordable option for next year. I hope they can resign Reed as well.

Playoffs!!!

October 12th, 2012
4:31 pm

Two-year extension—-not exactly a ringing endorsement-. Or is that normal in the GM ranks these days?

Michael

October 12th, 2012
4:32 pm

“Gene
October 12th, 2012
10:07 am

Saltamacchia, Andrus, Harrison, Feliz, McLouth, Lowe, Kawakami.”

Saltamacchia, Andrus, Harriso, and Feliz were not traded by Wren. Lowe made the playoffs for us one year, McLouth is hitting .350 for the O’s no reason he should have failed for us + we didnt give up that much, and KK was terrible. So u say he has made by decisions on 7 players he only did so with 1, Thx check your facts and Wren has been pretty good,

a fan

October 12th, 2012
4:40 pm

BFan,Rico ,Frodo, Peter, I wish you a life time in Pittsburgh, San Diego,KC or the Cubs you would then perhaps appreciate what a good Wren has done.. It took Baltimore 15 years just to get back to post season What about Miami and Boston this last two years and then there are the Mets with a $120 million payroll, Phils with $170 all worse then us, get a life

braveslover

October 12th, 2012
4:43 pm

Braves management keep saying that there is no spending limit but be prepared to defend what is spent. If Wren keeps payroll around 90 million then there isn’t much to defend. If he goes 110 million and gets crap (see Uggie) then he puts himself on the hotseat. Braves will need to go around 105 million if they are serious about getting an elite left fielder or third baseman with an above average center fielder. I hope Janish is resigned as there may not be a smoother fielder in the majors. If he could just hit….. sigh.

Oh'man

October 12th, 2012
4:48 pm

Good for Frank Wren, he deserves it !

Brave New World

October 12th, 2012
4:51 pm

Frank Wren changed the Braves from a losing team to a playoff team in a relatively short period of time. He has had to work on a limited budget. Overall, Wren has done a very good job. You overly critical knuckleheads are whining about 94 wins not being anything – it is something, and it gave us one of the best records in baseball. The Braves are positioned to be a playoff team for years to come. Why don’t you whiners watch the political debates, then you’d really have something to complain about. GO BRAVES!

Rick C

October 12th, 2012
4:51 pm

braveslover, I think they’ve freed up enough payroll that 90 mill will be enough. Janish is still under team control for another year or two I think.

Dozer

October 12th, 2012
4:57 pm

Maybe he can figure out a way to give this team a heart transplant. Take a look at the Giants, Cards, & Orioles – always fighting to the end. Can anyone honestly say that this franchise has that quality ingrained in their culture? Amazing how meekly they go down every year and not a bit of outrage about it. Hey McGurk – that’s why we don’t show up………..

Dozer

October 12th, 2012
4:57 pm

Maybe he can figure out a way to give this team a heart transplant. Take a look at the Giants, Cards, & Orioles – always fighting to the end. Can anyone honestly say that this franchise has that quality ingrained in their culture? Amazing how meekly they go down every year and not a bit of outrage about it. Hey McGurk – that’s why we don’t show up………..

Dozer

October 12th, 2012
4:57 pm

Maybe he can figure out a way to give this team a heart transplant. Take a look at the Giants, Cards, & Orioles – always fighting to the end. Can anyone honestly say that this franchise has that quality ingrained in their culture? Amazing how meekly they go down every year and not a bit of outrage about it. Hey McGurk – that’s why we don’t show up………..

Dozer

October 12th, 2012
4:57 pm

Maybe he can figure out a way to give this team a heart transplant. Take a look at the Giants, Cards, & Orioles – always fighting to the end. Can anyone honestly say that this franchise has that quality ingrained in their culture? Amazing how meekly they go down every year and not a bit of outrage about it. Hey McGurk – that’s why we don’t show up………..

Dozer

October 12th, 2012
4:59 pm

Another thing – enough of the baloney about limitations due to the local tv contract – the new national contracts almost double current revenues.

reckingball

October 12th, 2012
5:37 pm

Maybe some of these here folks, can figure out a way to stop posting the same comment, multiple times.

Carl Farvman

October 12th, 2012
5:49 pm

“Carroll………was Liberty Media part of the festivities to honor Chipper during his last homestand? Did they present him w/ any gifts or momentoes?”

More obsession over Chipper and his presents.

Mikey

October 12th, 2012
6:14 pm

Braves are second to the Phillies in wins since 2009 in the NL for those that are keeping score at home. Contratulations Frank for a job well done.

least of the east

October 12th, 2012
6:16 pm

Enter your comments here

least of the east

October 12th, 2012
6:21 pm

good GMs are hard to find. Wren is mediocre, but who would be better ? at least he knows their players througout the system. most of his deals accomplish little or nothing. the best one at first was the one with Tigers for Jurgens, but that has clearly gone astray.
the bigger problems are Liberty media, Fredi G and their scouting staff which is overrated. their 3rd-5th round picks last year hardly had sterling pro debuts. they were quite poor, in fact.
now, Frank’s smirk will never go away. get sued to that smug look.

David O'Brien

October 12th, 2012
6:21 pm

Breakfast- Does anyone else feel that it is going to take a long time to get this bad october out of our mouths? …. DOB is it possible the Braves need to shake everything up to do away with the old “90s/early 2000″ team mentality?what you eat for breakfast

Feel free to discuss the need to shake everything up and start over. But just know that’s not happening. Period. Braves won 94 games with a pretty young team, and Wren and Co. are quite happy with their core of young players.

But like I said, feel free to kick it around here all winter. “Blow it up, start over,” all that kind of talk. Have at it. But it’s not happening. Nor should it.

No. 1 Braves Fan

October 12th, 2012
6:27 pm

Frodo and Peter: Both of you do not seem to like Wren. Who can you name that was available for the Braves to hire could have done a better job as Braves GM ?

Birdhair

October 12th, 2012
6:31 pm

Wren 1 playoff appearance in 5 seasons. 0 playoff series wins. Folks say that he’s done a good job with given playoff. I scoff. $155M total wasted btw Drunk Lowe, KK, Uggla, and Nate McOut. He’s tied his own hands with high risk, expensive, poor decisions. $10M alone this past season wasted on Drunk Lowe.

This is a man that cannot operate a given budget properly, does not value OBP enough, and benefited tremendously from years of great work and drafting by John Schuerholz.

Atlanta fans that support Wren and his work are delusional. We need new ownership who will spend more and hold management accountable.

Birdhair

October 12th, 2012
6:57 pm

I meant payroll vs playoff above, but u get the point. I’d pay Andrew Friedman 1.5x’s what he’s making to come here.

Wren should be fired immediately. We have money to spend again and he’s going to drive us in the ground for years to come. No more Chipper and a few key JS responsible players contracts are going to expire soon.

Birdhair

October 12th, 2012
7:13 pm

Lastly, it’s really sad that our wonderful atlanta sports writers refuse to question management the way that sports writers in other large cities question management. I love our writers, but the these folk,s including the media, become a part of the problem. A majority of these bloggers drink the kool-aid because they don’t read the necessary critical analysis in the papers or hear it on the air

Frodo

October 12th, 2012
7:20 pm

Nice stat Mikey. While I’m proud of our coaches and players for the success, Wren really deserves no credit. In fact, we should ask him where are our penants and WS wins? I see zero playoff wins. He did nothing to build a team that could compete with the elite teams those years. It doesn’t show yet, but he is slowly bleeding this organization. This offseason is huge. $20M to spend wisely.

wins-by-a-link

October 12th, 2012
7:22 pm

Very difficult to judge Mr. Wren since the Braves are owned by a faceless, absent owner who really have no interest in winning a championship, I will give Wren credit for getting the Braves to the play offs even if only for one game. Lets hope the tax break which is why Liberty Media purchased the Braves in the first place plays out soon and local interest can buy the Braves.

Frodo

October 12th, 2012
7:42 pm

No 1 Braves Fan: No idea. Completely subjective. At the time, I was glad to see him move up. I thought for sure, a Schuerholz understudy was great. I guess my answer would be any GM that has won a playoff series in the last 5 years, but that’s lame. I don’t know enough about the talent out there. Poor offense and a lethargic mentality (not Wren’s fault) have plagued this team for years. When is the last time we rallied in a postseason game? Hopefully the departure of Chipper and Bobby from the clubhouse will change this.

ChipperisGod

October 12th, 2012
8:26 pm

The Braves to me felt like they had a different mentality this year, but they just kicked the ball around in the playoffs and beat themselves. I think next year they can come back and be better than this year, and hopefully if we make the postseason, we won’t make the same mistakes. We had a never say die attitude that wasn’t present as much in previous years. That come back from 9 down in Washington and those Phillies come backs weren’t possible a year ago.

Gotta get better with RISP, if we do that by adding some pieces and increased maturity by the young guys, we’re going to get better. And the rotation will not start off as slowly as it did last year.

bobbymahlon

October 12th, 2012
8:27 pm

To all you Nate McLouth fans he sure looked good striking out with the bases loaded with the Orioles down 1-3 in the top of the eigth. Makes you want him back because of that cannon like arm of his.

Birdhair

October 12th, 2012
8:28 pm

Agree with Frodo. The scariest part of this offseason is that Wren has $ to spend again. He’s going to ruin us for years to come.

Fredi has done a commendable job. I’d give him a “B” grade for this past season. If Booby was still managing we would have been around .500

NO MORE FREDI

October 12th, 2012
8:34 pm

The front office is full of good ol boys. We will never win anything with these idiots running the show.

Mike McDonald

October 12th, 2012
9:14 pm

Until Liberty Media cashes out, the current management can be expected to do as they have done for two decades: make too many questionable judgments and decisions that have failed to pay off for the fans and the franchise.

For Liberty, the Braves are the proverbial red-headed step-child. Translation:, they are a tax dodge and should be branded as such: Atlanta Dodgers.

If a true, competent, sportsman/businessman (male or female) were in charge, with his/her own money on the line, the current front office would be gone as well as their staff. (Bud-the-wiser-Selig permitting, of course). And for good reason, the business is not performing and the customer base has been unhappy for far too long.

The Atlanta MLB franchise is potentially a gold mine given the size of its geographic territory and potential population draw. Properly managed as a total business, it has the capability to eclipse the storied NY Yankees now and in the future. The nearest MLB franchise is several hundred miles away. Our region’s population growth is among the nation’s fastest growing.

The old adage, that “a fish stinks from the head” applies to the Braves’ management on the scene, and in absentia.

Until Liberty decides that their tax dodge and lousy ROI no longer compute, Atlanta Dodger fans can expect more contract extensions such as Wren’.s.

A sad prospect, indeed.

JAFO

October 12th, 2012
9:16 pm

And those 94 wins generated what, a chance?…0-9 in home elimination games. Better to be swept in a one game series than a 5. Have they set the date for the banner being raised?

JC Boscan III

October 12th, 2012
9:40 pm

I wonder if McLouth was more affected by his outfield collision with Heyward than anyone ever admitted to. In this first few months with the Braves, he was fairly productive. After the collision, he wasn’t at all. Then, I wonder if Larry Parrish had NO useful strategy to help McLouth find his swing again. Clearly, McLouth figured something out in the minors after a terrible start with the Pirates this year.

So, I wonder if our 2012 hitting coaches could have helped him return to form as a Brave….. we’ll never know. Good luck to him.

john

October 12th, 2012
11:10 pm

Pete- I agree with you. Softball lineup is a good way to put it. Constanza, Infante, and Blanco all did really well when given a chance, but it was like they were never wanted. Heck, it even took the organization an overly long time to figure out what it had in Prado. They fall in love with the big batting practice hitters who can’t make contact in a big pressure situations.

gy6

October 12th, 2012
11:28 pm

what, the e-5 banner?

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