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Ray
October 11th, 2012
10:29 am
Justin Upton maybe. BJ Upton, no way. Not when avg and obp are below 300. Not a good combo. Plus he does have a bit of history of attitude.
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
10:30 am
I think Shields is a better option than Greinke, especially given his contract of two years, 21 million – both options.
The issue is that we don’t match up that well with the Rays.
Gentlemen, I just don’t believe Wren is adding a front line starting pitcher.
You’re probably right, but I hope he gets one next year with the goal of having one of the best pitching staffs in the National League and not just a “good” staff.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 11th, 2012
10:30 am
True, Lew… and that makes him a #3.
Just looking at their 2 stats, noticed that Shields road ERA is 1.2 higher than it is at home. (0.7 for Greinke). Also, James’ 2nd half is worse for his career than his 1st. Greinke gets better in the 2nd half.
ncscoots
October 11th, 2012
10:31 am
And let me say that I don’t think Willingham is the only answer in LF. Just the most obvious, to some of us. Many a slip ‘twixt the cup and the lip, on that one. Can’t even be sure that the FO has the slightest twinkle in their eye or that the Twins are willing to sashay their skirt, when it comes to the guy.
DAP
October 11th, 2012
10:33 am
scoots could I wait until we see if the team actually procures one of those guys? I don’t want to offend all their mamas for no reason.
ha, whatever you want, man. just hoping to get a glimpse into the mind of ncscoots.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
10:33 am
Scoots-
Hopefully not….
To me, its not “breathtaking”….
Thats one UGLY baby!
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Lemke's Knuckler
October 11th, 2012
10:34 am
P-Town Brave,
I was at a Charlotte Knights game where the G-Braves were in town and Delgado was sitting in the stands tracking pitches. I was in the bathroom and he came in and went into one of the stalls to pee. Guys with shy bladders never win big games…never.
Seriously, I just don’t have a warm fuzzy about Delgado. I don’t have about Teheran either right now. But if a trade situation came up for an impact bat, I would offer up Delgado before Teheran. Like I said, I think there’s enough depth in the pitching staff to weather the loss of a Delgado.
I didn’t say you said anything about Hanson. Just mentioned that to reinforce my point that any impact trade will involve either Delgado or Teheran, or both.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
10:34 am
just hoping to get a glimpse into the mind of ncscoots.
DAP-
I really don’t think you wanna go there
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
10:34 am
I don’t think people realize what the effect is of adding someone like Shields to this pitching staff. Lot’s of Shields for 8 and Kimbrel for 1 games, which helps those middle relievers rest and Shields is a guy that can go toe to toe with other teams aces.
While I think Medlen has that ability, it needs to be seen by me. But, maybe we’ll find that out in 2013 and that’s what Wren is waiting for.
ncscoots
October 11th, 2012
10:34 am
just hoping to get a glimpse into the mind
I’ve always said you were a man of courage.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
10:35 am
LK-
You think maybe he thought you were a peeper?
Lemke's Knuckler
October 11th, 2012
10:37 am
Efrim…”While I think Medlen has that ability, it needs to be seen by me. But, maybe we’ll find that out in 2013 and that’s what Wren is waiting for.”
You’re not allowed to doubt Medlen anymore. He’s off limits now.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
10:37 am
Efrim-
In all fairness to Meds, we would have seen that if Chipper hadn’t decided to play catch w/ Heyward and Uggla hadn’t decided to join the circus…..
Lemke's Knuckler
October 11th, 2012
10:38 am
P-Town,
I was about to do the whole “watcha got down there” trick. You might be right.
George_George
October 11th, 2012
10:38 am
Good morning all
Good insight on BRAVES needs and how to solve them by DOB. He agrees with most of what I would do.
usnavyvolfaninva
October 11th, 2012
10:40 am
LOL. Sorry, DOB, but looking at the pic, looks like Chippers auditioning for the next Twilight movie….
Anyway, let me just reiterate my absolute unlimited hatred for the St Louis Cardinals. The luckiest team ever is one win away from the NLCS. C’mon NATS!!
I haven’t heard much about Josh Hamilton; is he too much of a head case to take a chance on; too expensive? Thoughts?
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
10:40 am
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Mets expected to pick up ‘13 option “@Griffster04: @ajcbraves isn’t David wright a FA? What are the chances the #Braves go after him?”
If he gets to free agency, ton of teams are going to be in on him. Huge deal.
Lemke's Knuckler
October 11th, 2012
10:41 am
George_George…”Good morning all. Good insight on BRAVES needs and how to solve them by DOB. He agrees with most of what I would do.”
Yes, he probably stole your notes before he wrote the article.
Fly On The Wall
October 11th, 2012
10:41 am
“Too many guys on our teams the last few years just don’t seem to care that much. Uggla. McCann”
Had to laugh at that one.
Let Mikey walk, get the 1st round pick for him….he’s great with the glove, not so much with the arm and fans way too much for a lead off guy and quit stealing bags too.
PEPr
October 11th, 2012
10:42 am
About Bobby Cox: Let’s see —- from 1876 until 2012, the Braves or their ancesters have 21 playoff appearances (14 by Bobby); 17 league championships (5 by Bobby); 3 World Championships 1914,1957,1995 (1 by Bobby). The big picture is very telling. I am of the opinion that a man should be evaluated by his “body of work” instead of an isolated decision that did or didn’t work as hoped. Incidentally, these facts were gleaned from “Baseball Reference”. ~ Objectivity is much better than subjectivity ~ Thanks
PEPr
October 11th, 2012
10:42 am
About Bobby Cox: Let’s see —- from 1876 until 2012, the Braves or their ancesters have 21 playoff appearances (14 by Bobby); 17 league championships (5 by Bobby); 3 World Championships 1914,1957,1995 (1 by Bobby). The big picture is very telling. I am of the opinion that a man should be evaluated by his “body of work” instead of an isolated decision that did or didn’t work as hoped. Incidentally, these facts were gleaned from “Baseball Reference”. ~ Objectivity is much better than subjectivity ~ Thanks
Shaun
October 11th, 2012
10:43 am
Speaking of the narrative advanced by some of the loudest blowhards in the mainstream media about players not being clutch, how about Greinke’s September/October numbers: 2.11 ERA, opponents hitting .209/.252/.327, 0.961 WHIP in 6 starts.
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
10:43 am
In all fairness to Meds, we would have seen that if Chipper hadn’t decided to play catch w/ Heyward and Uggla hadn’t decided to join the circus…..
I’m talking about being a 200-220 IP horse like some of the other aces in the National League. Sorry, I like a larger sample than a couple months. Medlen seems like he’s a slam dunk as an above average starter, but I’m not labeling the kid a #1 yet.
Jeff R
October 11th, 2012
10:43 am
Gentlemen, I just don’t believe Wren is adding a front line starting pitcher.
You’re probably right, but I hope he gets one next year with the goal of having one of the best pitching staffs in the National League and not just a “good” staff.
It’s a building process. Wren doesn’t have the resources to do everything he’d probably like to do at once.
Personally, I would mind Wren trying to acquire a couple of well regarded OF prospects versus signing vets with question marks who may or may not meet expectations. But that’s not going to happen, unless Wren can swing deals that include prospects.
PEPr
October 11th, 2012
10:43 am
Note: Sorry, I did not mean to double post! Thanks
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
10:44 am
Fly-
Not only that….I look at his CS% and think, hey, Victorino and Pagan are out there and are much better w/ their chances…..
Fly On The Wall
October 11th, 2012
10:44 am
Oh yea…and Mikey never smiles.
Tumbledown
October 11th, 2012
10:45 am
P-Town – …..I just feel like this team needs more Prado types to succeed.
I agree wih much of what you write, especially the above statement. That is why I hope the team signs Victorino or maybe Span for centerfield. The Braves do not need any more high strike out guys in the lineup.
Jeff R
October 11th, 2012
10:46 am
How about: “I wouldn’t mind…” Geez.
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
10:46 am
Speaking of the narrative advanced by some of the loudest blowhards in the mainstream media about players not being clutch, how about Greinke’s September/October numbers: 2.11 ERA, opponents hitting .209/.252/.327, 0.961 WHIP in 6 starts.
Couldn’t you be a tad bit nicer about that? I mean, did these folks kick your dog? I’ve been a huge Grienke supporter too, but you don’t have to grab your pitchfork and head towards the castle.
kenhotlanta
October 11th, 2012
10:46 am
mixxo: I said last night if we got Nate back to play CF, we should have enough left to sign Hamilton.
Frank Wren, are you awake?
October 11th, 2012
10:46 am
After watching the games last night is there any wonder why we haven’t won a playoff series in years? Teams like the Yankees, who I hate, have guys coming off of their bench better than our starters, like Raul Ibanez and Brett Gardner. We have guys like Greg Norton and Eric Hinske (who stopped being a major league hitter by the All Star break. At the trade deadline real teams pick up impact players like Hunter Pence, Kevin Youkilis and Alfonso Soriano (who was available to us). We pick up players like Paul Janish and Reed Johnson who are nothing more than backups. Our payroll continues to drop which is why our attendance continues to drop. Fans need to stop listening to the BS being told to us by our front office and get mad!!!!
Lew
October 11th, 2012
10:47 am
Yeah Uggla doesn’t care at all – that’s why we see him doggin it on so many plays, right? Sheesh.
Fly On The Wall
October 11th, 2012
10:51 am
Ok…how do you get the italicized quotes?
cricket
October 11th, 2012
10:51 am
Willingham would be better than Ross, but he’s just about past his prime.
i just don’t understand this. he hits career high Hrs (35), posts 890 OPS in 145 games THIS YEAR, wakes up day after season is over and is past his prime?
if the guy produces next two years similar to his last 2 years, why would it matter if his numbers are not great against lefties? last 4 years his OPS – 863, 848, 810, 890. if he produces like this and jacks ~ 25 Hrs, personally i won’t care much how he hits lefties.
how’s Ludwick against lefties?
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
10:53 am
Doesnt anyone think that because our pitching looked great the 2nd half and because of how our offense looked is WHY we are not talking about adding pitching?
I hope we also realize that if we can’t add all the pieces we want to the offense that we may look to another pitcher to make us more dominant there too….
I think in 2 months time we are going to all drive each other crazy w/ all the options out there….
So I guess lets hope the days fall off the calendar quickly and the roster fills ASAP….
And then we will all have more reasons to complain as lets face it, there’s no way everyone will be happy as we can’t add Miguel Cabrera and Matt Holliday
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 11th, 2012
10:53 am
I’ve been a huge Grienke supporter too- Efrim
Bigger than me, in fact!
Ok…how do you get the italicized quotes?- Fly
text in here without the spaces, of course
Shaun
October 11th, 2012
10:53 am
Yeah Uggla doesn’t care at all – that’s why we see him doggin it on so many plays, right? Sheesh.
Well, obviously if a player doesn’t play well, it means he doesn’t care or he is just too fragile to handle pressure. Anyone who has played the game, given a speech, etc. knows this.
cricket
October 11th, 2012
10:54 am
sorry for repost, but this is fun read -
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/39644156
Joe Posnanski on Pete Rose – Holding Court with the Hit King
Heisenberg
October 11th, 2012
10:55 am
Getting to the party late but I like all but 1 of DOB’s proposals. If there is not a trade partner for Hansen, then non-tender him. He is nothing but a 5th starter for first half of season until Beachy returns then odd man out. Braves can get the same performance from either Delgado or Teheran at pennies on the dollar compared to what Hansen will get in arbitration.
At least make a qualifying offer for Bourn to get the pick but my darkhorse for him would be Texas. I think Hamilton is gone. Bosox just freed up like 3 trillion dollars in salary, Yanks will play just to block Boston, Cubs have money to spend, & Philly can make a run. I would stay away from Hamilton though. Like many (and for a long time now), I like Pagan. But he will not come as cheap as some think.
Shaun
October 11th, 2012
10:56 am
P-Town Brave, I could care less about a player’s K-rate for hitters at the major league level, unless you are trying to decide between two players who are virtually indistinguishable in every way (skills, age, performance, etc.) and K-rate is about the only difference you can see. How players make outs should be way down on the list of factors.
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
10:56 am
Bigger than me, in fact!
Well, you want the guy inked yesterday. I am not on that boat with you.
Moreso defending the guy that he’s not a “big game” pitcher and stinks in that role.
Hillbilly
October 11th, 2012
10:57 am
Can’t even be sure that the FO has the slightest twinkle in their eye
He’s been a suitable target for two or three years now, and Wren hasn’t pushed hard for him yet. I get the vibe the Frank doesn’t get the warm and fuzzies over JW.
Murph
October 11th, 2012
10:58 am
Ok…how do you get the italicized quotes?
Alt – F4, reopen browser, type your text, Alt – F4
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 11th, 2012
10:58 am
http://www.angelfire.com/nm/thehtmlsource/jazzup/text/italicize.html
my brackets disappeared on me
i just don’t understand this. he hits career high Hrs (35), posts 890 OPS in 145 games THIS YEAR, wakes up day after season is over and is past his prime?
Took him until 34 to make his career highs, and he didn’t hit lefties. Isn’t that what we want, a guy who hits lefties? Otherwise we may as well get Choo, Gordon, etc. Also, since we’d be trading for him based on his great season, and he’s unlikely to repeat it due to aging, I say no. If he were 28-29, sure I do it. But not when he’s turning 35.
usnavyvolfaninva
October 11th, 2012
10:59 am
FW are you….
Pretty sure the Florida Marlins won championships with a minimum wage-esque payroll. It’s what you do with your resources. I didn’t necessarily agree with all of FW’s moves, but I’m sure he didn’t forsee the horrific season that Uggla had at the plate. I dare say that just about everyone on here thought the Uggla acquisition was a good one. They had no way of knowing he’d flop the way he did.
Same thing with JJ, Hanson. Before this season, he was $$. No one ever thought they’d have to get sent down to AAA.
I’m sure Wren will do his best with the resources he has…and my understanding is that to some extent, Liberty will expand the payroll at least a little to help with off-season acquisitions.
We’re almost there, man. We have a pretty rocksolid rotation, and just a bat or two away from another Division Crown.
Nowhere man
October 11th, 2012
11:00 am
Chipper E. Jones is spending the day wearing his signed Stan Musial Jersey.
Jeff R
October 11th, 2012
11:02 am
I think in 2 months time we are going to all drive each other crazy w/ all the [trade/free agency]options out there….
Halloween’s coming up. Anyone dressing up? And then Thanksgiving. I like gravy on everything, except the cranberry sauce. (Feeble attempt to expand the discussions)
Lew
October 11th, 2012
11:04 am
Only Braves – Not sure why you say JW didn’t hit efties – last year he hadf a poor BAA (.231), but had an OBP of.356 and SLG of .564 – not so sure what you see wrong about a .920 OPS
Mixxo
October 11th, 2012
11:05 am
“I’m glad cab is still sleeping…”
Hope she got my Twitter addy.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
11:06 am
Tumble-
Yeah, I just recall way too many instances when a guy came up in a key situation and struck out w/ a runner on 3b….0 outs, 1 out, 2 outs…..it happened A LOT!
And I just don’t see that getting better by adding a guy where ppl talk about his OBP….while that may be nice….we need a couple more guys that ya know, actually get HITS…..a novel idea I know, but pitchers aren’t always going to walk the ballpark w/ runners on base….and rather than having more guys w/ a high K rate, how about we replace Bourn w/ another guy who puts the ball in play….
If I had a quarter for every time someone came up during the year with a chance to just put it in play either on the ground or into the OF where the opponent was conceding the run and we struck out…..well, I could pay my car insurance, my electric bill, and maybe 1/2 a season of my MLB package….
We struck out 30% of ALL AB’s w/ man on 3b and less than 2 outs…..for those who doubt what I’m saying here….and then another 23% w/ the runner STILL on 3b and 2 outs….
We hit .231 w/ RISP guys….we need run producers and guys who put the ball in play….
We were absolutely atrocious at home and even worse against power pitchers….
Thus, the need for more guys who put the ball in play…
I won’t even start on the bench and the lack of pinch hitters….As someone alluded to previously….Babe Ruth’s corpse could be dug up and outhit our bench!
ncscoots
October 11th, 2012
11:07 am
Hillbilly, has he been “suitable”, though? With both Prado and Chipper still on the club, was there really a place for him every day? And there was, indeed, some concern about his fragility in 2009 and 2010. And a three-year deal might have been looked at warily last year, even had they had a spot for him.
Dunno. Maybe the FO doesn’t have that vibe, it’s surely possible.
cricket
October 11th, 2012
11:07 am
Also, since we’d be trading for him based on his great season, and he’s unlikely to repeat it due to aging, I say no
i won’t be trading for him based on only one season, he has pretty good track record. i will also bet that he performs to his career average during next 2 years. i also won’t be trading him to hit against lefties, would be happy if he puts up career numbers against righties and lefties.
anyway, i’m done discussing this topic since we’re never going to agree on this. let’s move on to how greinke will not be signed by braves…
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
11:07 am
He’s been a suitable target for two or three years now, and Wren hasn’t pushed hard for him yet. I get the vibe the Frank doesn’t get the warm and fuzzies over JW.
They could of traded or signed for him while he was in Florida, or when Oakland had him, or when Minny signed him. There has been a lot of opportunity. But, circumstances change and Wren now has the funds, need and pieces to acquire Willingham.
As usual, we’ll probably have guys in CF and LF that weren’t even spoken of here for months.
Murph
October 11th, 2012
11:08 am
Halloween’s coming up. Anyone dressing up?
I’m going as Bob Ross. Just got my fro wig/beard last weekend.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
11:08 am
Shaun-
So you’re not in the least bit concerned that with a runner on 3b, we struck out more than HALF the time…..?!
I seriously hope you’re joking!
Otherwise maybe you can explain to ANYONE in the free world how a K rate doesn’t matter when we did that and hit .231 w/ RISP….
Or is this where I get another one of your bullsh*t that stat is meaningless diatribes?!
DAP
October 11th, 2012
11:08 am
theonlybravesfanTook him until 34 to make his career highs, and he didn’t hit lefties. Isn’t that what we want, a guy who hits lefties?
why do you keep saying the obviously false statement over and over? you must be a democrat.
willingham OPSed .920 vs lefties this year. its .872 for his career. dude hits lefties.
Murph
October 11th, 2012
11:09 am
As usual, we’ll probably have guys in CF and LF that weren’t even spoken of here for months.
Let the Coco Crisp/Xavier Nady discussions begin!
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
11:09 am
But given how much we’ve already talked about it(since July), is it even possible that Wren acquires someone under the radar?
cricket
October 11th, 2012
11:10 am
would be happy if he puts up career numbers against righties and lefties.
meant to say – would be happy if he puts up career average numbers against righties and lefties.
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
11:10 am
Coco Crisp is another guy. Always available. Braves never bit.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
11:10 am
Murph-
I think I may go as Sam Holbrook and when I open the door to treaters just raise my arm and yell
INFIELD FLY….
It’ll go real well around here
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 11th, 2012
11:10 am
Lew: I’d rather he hit lefties more frequently than that. Also, considering that it was a career year, I looked back at his 2011 numbers. A .783 OPS vs lefties. .208/.317/.465
Cody Ross does the same thing, but hits lefties every year. Was only under an .883 OPS vs them in 2011, playing for the Giants. He had a terrible year. If he’s around the same price, I’d rather have him.
Fly On The Wall
October 11th, 2012
11:11 am
Murph
October 11th, 2012
10:58 am
Ok…how do you get the italicized quotes?
Alt – F4, reopen browser, type your text, Alt – F4
Oh thanks for that…I love having to restart with a new browser/webpage.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
11:12 am
DAP-
Im starting to get real sick of people mentioning OPS…..
Mention slugging and mention batting average….because what we damn well don’t need is another guy who is good at walking and striking out…..
News flash….WE ALREADY HAVE GUYS WHO ARE GOOD AT THAT WHICH IS WHY WE HIT .231 WITH RUNNERS IN GOD DAMN SCORING POSITION THIS YEAR!!
Murph
October 11th, 2012
11:12 am
PT, that’s awesome.
Better yet, when you get a group of trick-or-treaters at your door, walk outside, throw the candy up in the air, yell “infield fly”, then walk around kicking them all in the balls and taking your candy back.
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
11:12 am
Well, I’d bet that we can get Nelson Cruz for an old pair of socks at this point – but that ship has sailed. I’m sure the Rangers are now ready to part with the guy, as he’s about to make 10.25 million in 2013 and they need to revamp that outfield/first base/catcher spots.
ncscoots
October 11th, 2012
11:13 am
you must be a democrat.
Watch it, DAP, or I’ll dress up as a tea partier for Halloween and scare your kids out of their education.
Let the Coco Crisp/Xavier Nady discussions begin!
Murph is trying make Angel Pagan look good to me, I see.
cricket
October 11th, 2012
11:13 am
we’ll probably have guys in CF and LF that weren’t even spoken of here for months.
thanks god we’ve already covered carlos lee and bourjos. who all undesirables are left?
Murph
October 11th, 2012
11:13 am
Oh thanks for that…I love having to restart with a new browser/webpage.
Sorry. I’m Murph by the way. I’m a jerk.
Here’s what you really do:
text
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
11:14 am
Im starting to get real sick of people mentioning OPS…..
What would you like us to mention? RISP and clutchiness? I’ll talk about grit.
David Eckstein has grit. What’s he doing right now? Call him up and get him on 2nd base and move Uggla to LF.
Murph
October 11th, 2012
11:14 am
bah, that didn’t work
you use the greater than/less than signs with an i in the middle, then your text you want italicized, then the greater than/less than signs with a /i in the middle at the end.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 11th, 2012
11:17 am
Halloween’s coming up. Anyone dressing up?
Pastornicky or Greinke, obviously
why do you keep saying the obviously false statement over and over? you must be a democrat.
willingham OPSed .920 vs lefties this year. its .872 for his career. dude hits lefties.
First part is utterly false. Okay, okay. I’m looking at the average, he hasn’t made much contact against them the last 2 years. But when he does, he hits the ball well.
i won’t be trading for him based on only one season, he has pretty good track record
I should be more clear. The price in prospects is based on his 1 great season. Too rich for me.
cricket
October 11th, 2012
11:17 am
Murph is trying make Angel Pagan look good to me
welcome to 21st century Atlanta Braves reality, finally
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
11:18 am
Oh, and here’s a good one for everyone to chew on….
As to my commentary about needing more guys to put the ball in play:
With RISP: Braves hit .231….when they put the ball in play, they hit .268
Home games: Braves hit .249….when they put it in play, they hit .301
Away games: Braves hit .245….when they put it in play, they hit .290
Yeah…..could I make my point any clearer why losing Bourn and NOT adding another 140 K guy would be a GOOD thing….
I think Freeman, Heyward, and Uggla already dash our hopes enough when they K w/ men on base….
Jeff R
October 11th, 2012
11:18 am
As usual, we’ll probably have guys in CF and LF that weren’t even spoken of here for months.
Well, I’ve got a feeling that whoever Wren gets will be drawn from the list of usual suspects. But I wouldn’t mind a good surprise or two.
Ray
October 11th, 2012
11:18 am
You can’t compare a yankees or any AL team’s bench with a NL teams bench because of the DH. Guys like Ibanez are going to go to the AL because they are going to get their 20-25 ab’s per week. In the NL you are not going to get that unless you are in the field. The AL teams can use him as a DH a couple of games, maybe put him in the field for a game or two each week. In the NL guys like that are going to get 10-15 ab’s a week at most.
ncscoots
October 11th, 2012
11:18 am
What would you like us to mention? RISP and clutchiness? I’ll talk about grit.
He musta missed class the day they mentioned the importance of not making outs and hitting the ball hard. Figures.
You know, now that you bring it up, though, we didn’t get much action on the old CBI this year. Scrub love was probably at a four-year low.
No wonder the S&P is up. Reverse correlation of the two is well-known.
ncscoots
October 11th, 2012
11:20 am
welcome to 21st century Atlanta Braves reality, finally
cricket, I didn’t say he had succeeded, LOL.
Jeff R
October 11th, 2012
11:20 am
I wouldn’t give up a boatload of talent for Willingham.
HOF 10
October 11th, 2012
11:20 am
Great story. I agree with pretty much all of it, except I would not trade a top pitching prospect in a Willingham deal. He is at the age where decline is near and could come in his first year with the team. Also you wonder how many years he’d play here. Swisher, no, not at those figures. So Cody Ross. Good player. The Braves will have enough power as Heyward and Freeman get better and stronger. And they’re already paying Uggla to hit for power and we have to hope he can hit 30 HRs again (as he always did before 2012). It would be nice to see if he can play 3rd and then put Prado at 2nd, the more critical position. Pagan, yes, get Pagan.
Fly On The Wall
October 11th, 2012
11:21 am
I said last night if we got Nate back to play CF, we should have enough left to sign Hamilton
Don’t forget to tell Nate to wear his helmet while colliding with Jason, the ground and the wall. He is fast, can cover CF and has a gun, but man the pain at the plate…I don’t think I can watch it again.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
11:21 am
First part is utterly false. Okay, okay. I’m looking at the average, he hasn’t made much contact against them the last 2 years. But when he does, he hits the ball well
TOBF-
This sounds like a statement I’ve heard about Francisco a time or twelve
Murph
October 11th, 2012
11:23 am
Close, Fly. Don’t forget the “/i” between the greater than/less than symbols at the end of what you want italicized.
Fly On The Wall
October 11th, 2012
11:23 am
I’m from Alabama and a little slow…I forgot the / but I got it partly right.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 11th, 2012
11:23 am
Spruill, Salcedo is my starting point in a trade for Willingham…..
…. basically meaning it won’t happen.
DAP
October 11th, 2012
11:24 am
p-town Mention slugging and mention batting average….because what we damn well don’t need is another guy who is good at walking and striking out
ok, well like it or not, he doesnt make a ton of outs vs lefties, which is a good thing. also, he crsushes them, this past seaosn with a .564 slg%. thats a number MVPs usually have. basically, as far as slugging, he tirns into mike stanton vs. lefties.
but, by no stretch is it even close to being true that he cant hit lefties.
ncscoots
October 11th, 2012
11:25 am
I wouldn’t give up a boatload of talent for Willingham.
Guess “boatload” might be a relative term.
Low-A scrubs are an overpay to some folks here.
The way I look at it, the pitching depth for the Braves is money under the mattress, at this point. Need to put some of it to work.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
11:25 am
Ok….so what I have seen currently…
Willingham – meh….not worth the prospect haul and age and injuries will catch back up w/ him soon…
Ross – a solid player and hits LHP well, but don’t we need a cleanup guy? He isn’t that
Swisher – good, but also not a 4 hitter nor has he ever been the man anywhere and for that $….pass
Who’s next?
Fly On The Wall
October 11th, 2012
11:25 am
Say what a crappy weekend….Braves choke….again….Auburn just plain sucks….and Dale Jr. got killed in the points race….i don’t even know why I’m a sports fan….it’s just plain painful.
Jeff R
October 11th, 2012
11:26 am
Spruill, Salcedo is my starting point in a trade for Willingham…..
Hey, wait, I like Spruill. Let’s limit it to “Fumble Fingers” Salcedo. Okay, we can add Jurrjens.
TennesseePaul
October 11th, 2012
11:27 am
If he gets to free agency, ton of teams are going to be in on him. Huge deal.
He’d get a massive contract. He’d be the talk of the off-season. The biggest show in town. And because of all of that, the Braves would be the last team to even consider him.
Mitt Ryan
October 11th, 2012
11:27 am
I have a plan to fix the team but I won’t tell you what it is until Nov. 7.
Lew
October 11th, 2012
11:28 am
McNate back? I think not – for whatever reason it didn’t work too well the first time – why tempt fate?
ncscoots
October 11th, 2012
11:28 am
Hey, wait, I like Spruill.
Zeke’s my boy, everybody here knows that, but his best use to the Braves is going to be as a trade piece. I’m reconciled to that.
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
11:29 am
Jaime Garcia will visit a New York orthopedic Thursday “knowing that shoulder surgery is a distinct possibility,” according to Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
Not good.
ncscoots
October 11th, 2012
11:30 am
I have a plan to fix the team but I won’t tell you what it is until Nov. 7.
Must be pretty good one, then, if you gotta keep it secret.
P-Town Brave ©
October 11th, 2012
11:31 am
“ok, well like it or not, he doesnt make a ton of outs vs lefties, which is a good thing. also, he crsushes them, this past seaosn with a .564 slg%. thats a number MVPs usually have. basically, as far as slugging, he tirns into mike stanton vs. lefties”
Hmm….news to me because he’s a .250 hitter against lefties….looks pretty average to me….
Like I said, once again, not looking at OBP simply because well….for all you guys who b*tch incessantly about Dan Uggla and the fact he hit .220 and now want another guy who is just MEH as far as actually collecting HITS but gets on base….thats funny to me….hell, the guy in fact is only at .266 when he actually puts it in play against LHP….as opposed to Cody Ross who is .284 against LHP career and .289 when in play….
Not to say I want him because I don’t….but just look at the scenario….Prado doubles, Heyward singles him to 3b….now you have Josh Willingham up there to drive in that run from 3b…..and….
WHIFF
Mixxo
October 11th, 2012
11:31 am
McNate back? I think not – for whatever reason it didn’t work too well the first time – why tempt fate?
Kidding everyone…….just kidding.
Boy, do we need a sarcasm smiley something fierce! Some of you are too easy.