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74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
9:20 am
@ Discusted; heard Sam Hilbrook resides from Alton Mizzouri, just outside of St.Louie.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
9:22 am
Meant to correct, sorry to mispell Disgusted w/ a “g” not a ‘c’. my bad.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
9:29 am
@Lew, good point, been pull’n for him though, hope he can show stamina, I like you’re assesment of platooning, I feel he would be such a great discipline hitter, & mind you, I am doing a whole lot of Hopeing for the kid, just like for someone who had to face the odds come out of nowhere & be a beast, really light it up w/ strong offensive numbers. Hopeing he can be that young Thumper( I know he’s 27)that we can say become our own to go w/ J-Hey & Freeman.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
9:32 am
Blue coller Disciplined hitter’s that are tough outs w/ 2 strikes uncle frank.
Lew
October 20th, 2012
9:34 am
74Braves – Well, if he were a viable option for that platoon, it would leave Wren with enough money and trade bait to fill CF in good shape AND get that starter so many Braves’ fans covet – though not THE starter at least one blogger desires with all of his heart and soul.
Lew
October 20th, 2012
9:36 am
However, if it were to happen, I predict about a 50/50 split on the blog between those who would be thrilled and those who would castigate Wren for not spending money yet again and Liberty Media for being penurious in the extreme.
jeffrey d
October 20th, 2012
11:02 am
Geeze, Lew
bravedan
October 20th, 2012
11:31 am
Is Pastornicky playing winter ball? Like to see him get some time in center/left/second base to see if he could be a legit help there next year.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
11:38 am
Hey, we’ll never know what can happen, & a crazy die – hard like me hopes they’ll make the moves that the team will be propelled w/ consistency, that does carry them through the post season, & maintain a swagger that makes ‘em that team that’s not a pushover, but gets after it when the bells rung.
bravedan
October 20th, 2012
11:40 am
Assuming we spend too much money elsewhere such as left field and/or pitching, i wonder what kind of production we could get out of a Reed Johnson/Todd Cunningham platoon in center?
keyLargo
October 20th, 2012
12:07 pm
Is Pastornicky playing winter ball? Like to see him get some time in center/left/second base to see if he could be a legit help there next year.
I really don’t think Pastornicky has anything but a marginal bat. 2 HR’s in 188 PA’s last year and a .243 .287 .325 .613 line. That pretty much eliminates him from everything but 1st, 7th and 8th in an emergency situation. To me he looks like a year or two bench player and then will be released.
Rob From SC
October 20th, 2012
12:10 pm
I think a David Ross / Evan Gattis / Boscan platoon will work until McCann is ready. Boscan will allow Gonzalez to use Ross and Gattis as pinch hitters
DAP
October 20th, 2012
12:13 pm
i see were at a a point in the off season where expectations dip.
DAP
October 20th, 2012
12:17 pm
keylargo I really don’t think Pastornicky has anything but a marginal bat. 2 HR’s in 188 PA’s last year and a .243 .287 .325 .613 line. That pretty much eliminates him from everything but 1st, 7th and 8th in an emergency situation.
well, he is 22 years old with a pretty good track record with the bat, in the minors. he is a high contact hitter with speed which means you can expect a good average, decent OBP, and little to no power. i think a guy like that, as young as he is, could have a pretty good future if he can play multiple positions. (which tyler can)
David O'Brien
October 20th, 2012
12:26 pm
Braves minor league field coordinator Dave Trembley has been hired away by Astros to join new manager Bo Porter’s major-league staff. No specific job title yet, but word is he’ll be Porter’s bench coach. He once managed a team with Porter on it in the minor leagues.
old man
October 20th, 2012
12:39 pm
A few post back, someone put Simmons and KC’s Myers together in a deal.
Simmons and Teheran for Myers?
KC would be getting low cost quality players, which is what they want. Myers has been blocked because they have some decent OFers. Most of Myers play in AAA last year was in CF (87 of 99 games). What are the reports on his fielding? He has been given the phenom cognomen, so I’m assuming he is pretty damn good out there. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong. And is he ready to step in as an everyday MLB starter in 2013?
Could we man SS with a combo of Janish, Prado, and even Pastornicky, until Ahmed comes along?
Myers would be a low cost CFer for several years, which would leave us all 22M to fill LF with a free agent.
Obviously, you lose some fielding at SS with anyone other than Simmons. Is Ahmed projected to be a plus fielder at that position? And, all the experts said Prado could not play SS, but his BEST fielding stats last year were at that position–and the ultimate stat, the eyeball, does not lie. He could platoon at that position quite handily. Simmons would be better than any platoon. But an OF of Heyward, Myers, and a stud free agent seems mighty appealing.
I would love you guys to pick this idea apart. My main point, I guess, is that Simmons is not untouchable.
I call being the first in the history of this board to use the word “cognomen.”
bravedan
October 20th, 2012
12:41 pm
DOB, what would it take to get Olt from the Rangers or Myers from the Royals? Or are they untouchable?
George_George
October 20th, 2012
12:50 pm
Rob From SC
October 20th, 2012
12:10 pm
I think a David Ross / Evan Gattis / Boscan platoon will work until McCann is ready. Boscan will allow Gonzalez to use Ross and Gattis as pinch hitters
**************
AGREED, We do not need to spend money or players for a CATCHER. We need a LFder and maybe a CFder.
phil
October 20th, 2012
12:54 pm
Trembley can go tremble somewhere else now…..maybe he should take some of our guys with him.
Just sick and tired of these pathetic crunch time performances of ours….
It’s like watching little leagurers out there with us when the spotlight turns on.
Sorry. Just needed to vent for a moment again. All is well!
George_George
October 20th, 2012
1:00 pm
Read the blogs from last night and ” Homer of A town ” was somewhat of a nut case.
jeffrey d
October 20th, 2012
1:01 pm
…..
usnavyvolfaninva
October 20th, 2012
1:03 pm
I’m probably going to upset a lot of people here, but I think it’s time to cut ties with Brian McCann. Not because I hate him, or he sucks, or whatever, I’m just trying to separate emotion from objectivity. Brian’s got a 6-month rehab ahead of him, and there’s no guarantee that he’ll be 100% once it’s complete. He’s struggled mightily at the plate, and I realize in part that’s due to him playing with a hurt knee. But from a cost perspective, I think it would be better to trade him and maybe a pitching prospect for a power hitter that could make this a fearsome lineup. Who? I don’t know. I confess, I don’t keep up with who’s got what contract for how much. I love Brian, and I appreciate what he’s done for the organization. But I think at the end of the day, he’s probably played his last game as a Brave. Okay, throw the tomatoes.
George_George
October 20th, 2012
1:06 pm
Think [Homer] and [nowhere man] could be same dude? I do.
jeffrey d
October 20th, 2012
1:07 pm
Well 1) Who replaces Brian McCann?
2) If Brian is so worthless, how are the Braves going to trade him for “a pitching prospect or a power hitter”?
3) It would be a real bad move for the Braves to pick up McCann’s option and then trade him
George_George
October 20th, 2012
1:11 pm
I think BRAVES need to pick up BRIAN’s option. I do not think he is done.
George_George
October 20th, 2012
1:19 pm
If BRAVES do not pick up BRIAN’s option this blog and GWINNET COUNTY [ where McFann lives] will BLOW UP. BRAVES fans will stand to lose CHIPPER and BRIAN in same season.
jeffrey d
October 20th, 2012
1:21 pm
If BRAVES do not pick up BRIAN’s option this blog and GWINNET COUNTY [ where McFann lives] will BLOW UP
Are you making a threat, George George?? Pleaes don’t blow up Gwinnett!!
jeffrey d
October 20th, 2012
1:22 pm
Please*
Nowhere man
October 20th, 2012
1:27 pm
wow now I am Homer too. So I am George, ace and whoever else.
Nowhere man
October 20th, 2012
1:30 pm
You dudes have an obsession with multiple personalities.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
2:11 pm
Real quick; @Jeff R; or anyone else here, How was “Walking Dead” 1st episode last sunday?
HooRah
October 20th, 2012
2:18 pm
Nowhere Man = every nut case on the blog
Heath
October 20th, 2012
3:09 pm
DOB -
The Rockoes always have good OFers… Wheeler is ready for the upcoming season and a big piece to their future 2-3 years after that. Why not target a RH OFer from their organization like Kyle Parker? What would the Rockies want from the Braves in terms of pitching (since they have a good 3B, SS, and plenty of OF prospects and they always need pitching). Does it have to be Braves #1 pitching prospect like Teheran? I like the idea of trading for him AND trading for Willingham so that we’re not constantly looking for RH LFer.
Heath
October 20th, 2012
3:12 pm
Ment to say Dahl is a a big piece to their futre 2-3 years after that.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
3:14 pm
74Braves – Well, if he were a viable option for that platoon, it would leave Wren with enough money and trade bait to fill CF in good shape AND get that starter so many Braves’ fans covet – though not THE starter at least one blogger desires with all of his heart and soul.
Can’t really see a good top CF who we can reasonably acquire via trade…. especially not leaving us the prospects to get Shields, who Efrim desires with his heart and soul.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
3:16 pm
Oh hey, (A brain is) Nowhere (in my head) man
HooRah
October 20th, 2012
3:28 pm
problem with most Rockies players is that they can only hit in Coors, if you can get us Tulo though I’d be ok with that
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
3:46 pm
I’m w/ you, o’l Troy Tulo’s a clutch player, guts & heart, very well disciplined.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
3:53 pm
Dang! He’d be nice one HooRah, what would we have to give up for ‘em? Gosh, Tulo would be sweet pickup, know he’s signed through 2020,correct?
UKUGA
October 20th, 2012
3:55 pm
Lew, I am from the South, but I am from Kentucky, so Monday-Friday in the fall was spent pretending last Saturday didn’t just happen.
Always watched the LCS and WS growing up because it seemed like a huge deal. Before the Braves were good, I watched every play-off game, no matter who was in it. Then, the Braves made back2back World Series and I kept watching. But after that, my interest began to peak and wane with the Braves’ performance.
For years, it was very difficult for me to watch the next round after the Braves were eliminated. It took me a week or so to get the disgusting taste out of my mouth. I’m beginning to get past that a little, but not completely.
I still watch the play-offs and WS, but focus on the first two innings and the last three innings of most games. My main interest is in hearing the Star Spangled Banner and God Bless America because it gets my little girl excited.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
3:58 pm
@Heath, I remember Bravos we’re investigating Wheeler, Seth Smith(A’s) for prado last off season w/ a couple more of our prospects(?), Big stick, high K average last I remember, hopefully went down?
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
4:04 pm
@bravedan, 11:40 am; That’s a descent platoon, kinda intrigued by Todd Cunningham.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
4:12 pm
Come to think of it,TC’ put up some descent stats this past year, & he too seems to have good eye at the plate, very young, he’s another prospect hope they’ll put considerable look see this comming spring. Gotta look back on this Blog from the main sources(richbrave, efrim,etc.,) on how our minor’s are do’in in winter league.
HooRah
October 20th, 2012
4:26 pm
most of what I have heard about Cunningham is that he is a B Jones type player, marginal big leaguer
jeffrey d
October 20th, 2012
4:30 pm
So we’re all just looking the other way on George George’s nuclear threat?
Soph
October 20th, 2012
4:33 pm
George squared threatened Gwinnett? We can’t stand for that!
jeffrey d
October 20th, 2012
4:34 pm
I think it’s 2(George)
But yeah, if the Braves don’t pick up McCann’s option, George George blows up the county.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
4:35 pm
D’Backs Acquire Heath Bell In Three-Team Deal
By Zach Links [October 20 at 3:19pm CST]
The Diamondbacks announced that they have acquired Heath Bell and cash considerations from the Marlins in a three-team deal with the Athletics. Miami will receive minor league infielder Yordy Cabrera from the A’s and Oakland will get outfielder Chris Young and cash from Arizona.
Bell was unhappy in Miami as the club was unwilling to restore him as closer, tweets Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times. The 35-year-old struggled in his first and only year with the Marlins, posting a 5.09 ERA with 8.3 K/9 and 4.1 BB/9 in 73 appearances.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
4:36 pm
Qualifying Offers Will Be Worth $13.3MM
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [October 20 at 12:18pm CST]
OCTOBER 20: It has been determined that qualifying offers need to be worth $13.3MM this offseason, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (on Twitter).
Jon Heyman@JonHeymanCBS
Qualifying offers for free agents will need to be $13.3M, it has been determined. #mlb
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
4:37 pm
Great deal for the As.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
4:38 pm
That sounds cool! Man, if our position prospects can perform well in the spring,( the few mentioned) I think it would bring out some intense competition to make the roster let alone for starting position if the opportunity presents itself, kinda want to see how Nick Ahmed(?)holding out, he may be a year or 2 away.
Soph
October 20th, 2012
4:38 pm
If George is willing to kaput Gwinnett, I can only imagine what McFann would do if there was no more Mac.
brian
October 20th, 2012
4:39 pm
no doubt Bourn will receive a qualifying offer of $13.3 million assuming he still qualifies for draft pick compensation
jeffrey d
October 20th, 2012
4:41 pm
She’ll probably just move to wherever Mac goes.
brian
October 20th, 2012
4:42 pm
McCann is not going anywhere this offseason. It would be an epic sell low/buy low. A bad season coming off of labrum surgery will get the A+ offers from teams so Gwinnett and anybody within range of McFann is fine now. I would love for McCann to come back and have such a good season it really puts the squeeze on the front office when deciding to extend McCann or not.
I know McCann doesn’t want any part of it, but I still think McCann would do better in the AL where he could DH a good bit to reduce the wear and tear. Too special of a bat to age prematurely due to catching
brian
October 20th, 2012
4:43 pm
Arizona must have really wanted to move Chris Young
Ward
October 20th, 2012
4:51 pm
Hello everyone! I would like Mac to stay. He’s still young, and can’t fault him for having a bad year. Everyone has bad seasons. I would pick up his option. Try to work something out during the season. Let him chose what he wants to do, and then work with that. Braves aren’t losing anything, because of Bethancourt, and Gattis. Let it work out, and take your time. Macs a good guy, and he might sign for the right dedal.
Ward
October 20th, 2012
4:53 pm
You get more trust from a player than when you try to froce things from him. I like Mac, and think he’s too valuable for the team.
Ward
October 20th, 2012
4:55 pm
Let the right deal come, and let it take it’s course. I would actually like Mac, to finish a Brave.
HooRah
October 20th, 2012
5:00 pm
Interested to see how well Young hits over there. Huge difference between parks.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
5:01 pm
Might be a change of scenery that might help bell, will see. Gibson’s tough, but a motivator.
Ward
October 20th, 2012
5:01 pm
DOB – Is there a way you could see a block busster deal that includes Cuddyer, and Justin Upton to the Braves……. That wouldn’t be a bad a idea?
Ward
October 20th, 2012
5:02 pm
Like a package for Cuddyer, and Justin Upton. Just something to think about!
Ward
October 20th, 2012
5:04 pm
Like trade to the Rockies, and make a trade to Arizona. How about two trades. A block buster deal with two teams.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
5:05 pm
I’m on the fence for B-Mac, still think he can rebound solid when he recouperates from the surgery. I think he put alot of pressure on himself try’n to perform w/ pain, just kept gett’n worse.
brian
October 20th, 2012
5:07 pm
Mac’s bad season is likely due to his shoulder. His should bothered him for longer than he let on and much more significantly than he would ever admit to.
It will be interesting to see how he is when he returns
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
5:10 pm
DBacks are picking up 13mil of remaining 21mil Bell’s contract, and are sending 500k to Oakland
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
5:12 pm
Could be considered, Ward, what’s you’re take in who we give for who, I know you mentioned cuddyer(colo.), upton(ariz.)?
kenhotlanta
October 20th, 2012
5:12 pm
74bravesjersey: The first episode of The Walking Dead was fantastic and set up the new season very nicely, This show just keeps getting better and better.
Ward
October 20th, 2012
5:13 pm
Cuddyer would be in the Braves price range, as well. If Braves lost Bourn? How about Cuddyer, and Justin Upton? Just a thought…….Talk later, and Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
5:13 pm
work something out during the season? nah, I want to see him make it through the whole year. He’s a catcher, the most stressful position on the field. He got hurt in 2011, and was hurt much of last year. Even if he starts the season on fire, I want to see him keep it up all year and not have a reoccurring or another major injury.
Unfortunately, that means that he may test FA and we lose him, but…. so be it. Sucks that he was hurt this season, or we’d have extended him I’m sure.
Ward
October 20th, 2012
5:15 pm
Guy’s, I leave that up to you to talk about. I just want some one who can hit, and drive in runs…….Peace Out! Talk later tonight……”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
5:15 pm
I hope he does do well when he comes back, we sure need him to. Both he and Uggla need to perform closer to their career norms.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
5:19 pm
I tell ya, if there was one player I’d pay to see play, who was tough grit was & would be to this day is Kirk Gibson, man, he was also clutch, Big Time, course not talking about his limping around the bases with the arm pull action after the walk off, but man true grit every sense of the word. Just curious, if he was managing in this one game, never mind, sorry.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
5:20 pm
Some people are speculating that Coco Crisp may be available now that the As have picked up Young. Crisp makes 7mil next year, 7.5mil on a team option in 2014 (1mil buyout)
“Premium player”. Say no Frank.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
5:29 pm
@kenhotlanta; Awesome! & Dang! 1st, glad that it was everything & more to be expected, 2nd, I did not change from freak’n dish yet, hope soon, I was try’n to find some where to go last sunday night.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
5:31 pm
@TOBF – 5:15pm, TOTALLY AGREED!
kenhotlanta
October 20th, 2012
5:38 pm
74bravesjersey: AMC was letting everyone watch it for free online, it might still be up, and you don’t have to sign in or anything. They said they were doing this for Dish customers, but it would be the only time. I better be able to find it somewhere online from now on and I wish I could get out of my Dish contract. Not seeing this and Mad Men really tees me off.
brian
October 20th, 2012
5:41 pm
just say no to CoCo Crisp
kenhotlanta
October 20th, 2012
5:41 pm
Looks like I’m gonna have go back on the lateshift here and clean house, those and idiots are giving us a bad name. Are you with me uga and BAS?
bravedan
October 20th, 2012
5:43 pm
no to coco
HooRah
October 20th, 2012
5:46 pm
I guess we could do worse that Coco, his OPS+ is higher than Bourn’s and he still steals bases
has a history of missing games though
SNEAKY PETE
October 20th, 2012
5:48 pm
also Ks about half as much as Bourn does. and a switcher. not sure why everybody hates him
HooRah
October 20th, 2012
5:51 pm
would like to see a little better OBP though
brian
October 20th, 2012
6:00 pm
I would rather have Parra from Arizona than Young
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
6:03 pm
Coco’s averaged 95games a season for his last 3, OPS+ of 100, and will 32-33 next season.
Meh, we can do better
HooRah
October 20th, 2012
6:07 pm
we are not going to do all that muck better, especially factoring in cost
what with Willingham and now Coco, you seem to think that hitters drop dead at about 32-33 or so
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 20th, 2012
6:12 pm
Soph If George is willing to kaput Gwinnett, I can only imagine what McFann would do if there was no more Mac.
That’s not something we ever need to find out…
old man
October 20th, 2012
6:15 pm
So Simmons and Teheran for Wil Myer does not work? Simmons would be an upgrade for them at SS, but maybe not enough.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
6:15 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
#Athletics can pick up Crisp’s $7M option, then trade OFer of their choosing, most likely Crisp. But all likely in play. How Beane operates.
They don’t drop dead, but I’d like both acquisitions to be under 30-31, if possible. Definitely not for both being over 30. If I had to choose between Coco and Willingham, I’d probably pick Willingham.
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
#Athletics can pick up Crisp’s $7M option, then trade OFer of their choosing, most likely Crisp. But all likely in play. How Beane operates.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 20th, 2012
6:18 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Not saying #Athletics’ Beane will trade Cespedes or Reddick. But if u think he won’t listen, u haven’t been paying attention all these yrs.
Cespedes would be nice… RH bat, hit lefties and righties well. Reddick is a lefty bat, had a low avg. this year. But 30+ HR is hard to ignore.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
6:23 pm
@kenhotlanta; thanks for the info, I have my son trying to pull it up,& he gets the AMC website but they do not give him access, He wants to know what website to go to, Is it the walking dead website?ASAP…
kenhotlanta
October 20th, 2012
6:33 pm
74bravesjersey: It was the AMC homepage.
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
6:38 pm
@TOBF; For Cespedes, Awesome, He’s a hitt’n machine, know we would have to give up quite a bit for ‘em, dang, wish we could throw ‘em Uggla, Hanson, possibly Teheran, or mabey that package for reddick, if that’s not too steep, somebody correct me, or is it not enough, Moneyball!
74bravesjersey
October 20th, 2012
6:46 pm
@kenhotlanta; I’ll see if I can pull it up here, my son’s havin’ trouble getting through ’cause they keep going to like something about how they make zombie’s, w/makeup etc…, plus we’ve been getting some other special features of sorts.
Lew
October 20th, 2012
6:47 pm
UKUGA – Well, you certainly have to keep that lovely young lady happy and if the Star Spangled Banner and GBA do it for her, then that’s what you should watch.
I usually have no problem watching (at least some) after the Braves have been bounced, but not so much this year. Haven’t even bothered to find out who won the Giants/Cards games yesterday.
jeffrey d
October 20th, 2012
7:43 pm
Geeze, Lew.
mike mangan
October 20th, 2012
7:52 pm
Enter your comments here
mike mangan
October 20th, 2012
8:01 pm
Lets talk Centerfield for 2013….Dexter Fowler who is from this area would truly love to play in Atlanta and I think the pitching staved Rockies would take a Trade of Tommy Hanson and Jose Constanza would do the trick.I think Constanza could hit .320 in Denver and do a great job in their outfield.Hanson could step right into the rotation and Fowler a switch hitter wit power could filll the Middle of the Braves outfield.He can run, throw,Hit with power and probably not whiff 151 times like Bourn did.Here is the next Bourne Braves movie title,Bourn and Boras head to DC.That of course would leave Roger Bernidina out of the Mix.Imagine what he might be able to do with 500 at bats in a season.Anyone Agree??????
keyLargo
October 20th, 2012
8:02 pm
I’ve been saying GA missing extra points is going to cost us a win this year from the first game. Missed another and now trail 14 – 13.