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VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
5:38 pm
Bama
Justin Upton is only 24 years old and has received MVP consideration twice in his young career. Very talented with a huge ceiling. Dude already has 108 Career Homers and a career 837 OPS, has a good contract if he can get back to his 2011 form. RH power hitter who’s athletic and so on. But his Home/Away splits are alarming. And also the fact the Arizona seems to want to get rid of him is a red flag as well.
In Arizona
364 Games 307/389/548/937
On Road
367 Games 250/325/406/731
Not sure how his production would be not playing in Arizona. But for sh!ts and giggles in 17 Career Games in Atlanta he’s hit 293, with a 871 OPS. Which of course is sample size.
nolie
October 19th, 2012
5:40 pm
maybe TOBF can talk Greinke into giving us a home discount though. that would be cool
nolie
October 19th, 2012
5:43 pm
200 points is a lot, might hit near 800 in Atlanta though if they can keep the new hitter curse away from him
P-Town Brave ©
October 19th, 2012
5:48 pm
Nolie-
I thought the dreaded locker was the curse….and then I thought maybe LF was the curse….
Now I’m starting to think Shaun and the sample size is the ultimate curse
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
5:51 pm
I don’t think were a fit with Arizona on a trade anyways, they already have plenty of starting pitching prospects and such. Would be alot easier to get CF Chris Young but I’m not a fan of him.
DBacks need 3B/SS and LH reliever help.
We have EOF and his high salary but that’s it. Salcedo and Ahmed are too far away to help them soon.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
5:52 pm
If only I could talk to him…
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
5:54 pm
nolie
Justin Upton has massive talent regardless, but that Home/Away split could be telling. Same go for Denard Span when considering CF options. How much can it really affect the player if they don’t get to play half the time where they do really well. Looking at Uptons career it seems like he has a trend of great and ok seasons. But damn on paper seeing a JUpton and Heyward COF tandem looks really good. lol
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
6:06 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Congrats to Dave Trembley, who will leave his role as the Braves Minor League field coordinator to join Houston’s coaching staff
Rumors are that he will be the bench coach.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
6:07 pm
OCTOBER 19TH: Otani is set to decide between playing in MLB and staying in Japan on Monday, according to a report from Sanspo (Japanese link) passed along by Patrick Newman of NPB Tracker (via Twitter).
OCTOBER 11TH: High school pitcher Shohei Otani, 18, is being courted by every NPB team and at least three Major League teams, reports WEEI.com’s Alex Speier. The Red Sox, Dodgers and Rangers have all sent representatives to Japan to meet with Otani, and Gerry Fraley of the Dallas Morning News notes that the Orioles also have interest in the right-hander.
Despite his young age, Otani is already 6′4″ and 190 pounds and owns a fastball that has been clocked in the 99-100 mph range. MLB teams wouldn’t have to pay a posting fee to sign Otani as he isn’t contracted to any Japanese pro team.
Frank!
nolie
October 19th, 2012
6:16 pm
Frank may be KKed out on Niponese pitchers….
nolie
October 19th, 2012
6:27 pm
sorry, Nipponese
nolie
October 19th, 2012
6:57 pm
Place died. Vampires musta got everybody. Abraham Lincoln let us down….
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
7:02 pm
Two names I would stay away from this off season are A-Rod and Soriano from the Cubs even if their respective teams eat alot of $$$$$$$$$$$.
A-Rod may very well be getting into the declining stages of his career now and he is 38 next yr.
Neither is a fit for us.
Vote for Alex Gordon for LF and Prado at third. Undecided on CF though my first choice now is Pagan.
Do not want Bourjos or Ben Revere, names that have been mentioned from time to time.
I like it that Huddy would like to finish as a Brave– it could work cause I think he has 4 more good yrs left.
The decision about Mc Cann is tougher now — I don;t know which way they should go.
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
7:03 pm
I still see shortstop as some what of a need cause I am not sold on Simmons — mostly cause of that bad game he had in the WC game.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
7:04 pm
Beltran’s back in the lineup tonight… go Giants!
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
7:05 pm
Sam Holbrook should be fired. He is incompetent to hold any kind of employment — worst ump in all of sports.
He did cheat us. Is he a Cardinal fan, I don;t know.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
7:06 pm
You sign Bmac. The kid has heart. Love to get Gordon and I mean Love to get Gordon but KC has a win in 14 plan and if they trade him that would go against all that GLASS has been telling them for the last 3 yrs. WTH is wrong with Revere?
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
7:06 pm
Not sold because of 1 game? really? The only thing that you could be concerned about was the injuries. But hey, what could he do? Those came on some freak plays. And no, we can’t call him an injury risk yet.
By my count, the Braves played 110 games from the time he was called up, he played in 49. He’ll do better next year.
nolie
October 19th, 2012
7:07 pm
you are kidding right? One of the best defensive SS in baseball, so he made an error and now he is crap??
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
7:07 pm
Simmons is great. He learned a lot during that game.
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
7:08 pm
As for Otani — No Japaneese leaegue pitchers again please. I don;t care who it is.
And Salecdo sucks doing nothing in the AFL. He is not gonnamake it cause hes a BUMB who deserves to be Booed.
After Kawacomic, how can you consider another Japannese league pitcher again. Too many of them stink bad like Dice-K, Irabu and Nomo was not much either.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
7:09 pm
Darvish and Kuroda have done well
nolie
October 19th, 2012
7:10 pm
Yu looks promising though and Otani seems like a younger Yu, but he will be out of our price range anyway most likely
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
7:11 pm
Homer of A Town sports — Revere has no power — absolutely none, we have to get a better p;ayer then he.
As for Simmons I am mad at him and will be for the off season — and I do see him as an injury risk.
I was impressed with his defense but that was one bad throwing error in that WC game — could not believe it.
As for B Mac — like him but a 6 month rehab on a serious shoulder injury is a risk for the money involved. Tough decision
David O'Brien
October 19th, 2012
7:11 pm
Gattis just keeps hitting wherever they send him. In 7 games in Venezuela, he’s 9-for-27 with 4 doubles, 1 HR, league-leading 8 RBI, .593 slugging and .947 OPS in 7games.
If he stays healthy, gonna be interesting to see the numbers he puts up in Triple-A next season — and even more interesting to see how long he stays there before getting his first shot in big leagues.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
7:12 pm
I have no clue why Salcedo has turned out so bad. He was wanted by all MLB teams. Ahmed is showing good signs but he is 2 yrs or more away.
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
7:13 pm
Kuroda is good, Darvish we will see what he does after one yr.
Generally those guys are not good.
nolie
October 19th, 2012
7:14 pm
prolly gonna cost us a big lumber guy in LF cause they will say he is just about ready so we don’t need no steeenking LF hitter
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
7:14 pm
Gattis is the WOW factor from last spring. He was hurt most of the season but he could make a charge again this spring and the Braves will not be able to ignore that.
nolie
October 19th, 2012
7:16 pm
yeah generally they are not all that good, I’ve said that here for years.
A few started Ok and then fell off too
nolie
October 19th, 2012
7:16 pm
they damn well better ignore it
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
7:21 pm
Gattis is a “premium player”, didn’t ya get the memo?
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
7:24 pm
Is anybody willing to sign A. Jones? Good Platoon player for LHP. I don’t think much interest is out there for him and could be picked up for a reasonable price. Bring him back to ATL.?
Jay Dubu
October 19th, 2012
7:27 pm
Yanks are looking to trade A-Rod, and the Braves need a 3rd baseman. With the Yanks picking up 80% of his $114 M remaining salary, they can have him for $4.56 M per year.
He’ll sell tickets with his circus act for the 1st couple of months, but will not be good over the 5 years left.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
7:30 pm
AROD would be hitting on our wives during games and I don’t have the looks or the money to keep my wife from taking him up on his offer. NO THANK YOU
Jay Dubu
October 19th, 2012
7:32 pm
Is Gattis playing catcher in the Venezuela?
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
7:36 pm
Wouldn’t mind a bench that looks like this at some point.
Ross, Janish, Francisco, Johnson, Gattis.
Of course it would have to be after Gattis gets some time in AAA. Right now I see Pastornicky with the 5th spot.
DS1
October 19th, 2012
7:38 pm
nolie
If they think Gattis is all that, then they’d better get a killer CF’er instead of a killer LF’er. And then go with a journeyman LF’er until the “Big Cat” is ready (as richbrave likes to call him)
nolie
October 19th, 2012
7:39 pm
I thought they were moving away from him at catcher?
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
7:40 pm
Ross, Betemit, Johnson, Pastornicky, Janish…
Hopefully with Gattis being added by June-July
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
7:45 pm
I really wouldn’t mind Revere or Bourjos if the price is right. They would certainly provide great defense. Revere would provide more contact and stolen bases, while Bourjos has more XBH potential.
Of course this only makes sense if we add a really good RH power bat for LF.
In 511 ABs Revere hit 294 and had 40 stolen bases. (2012)
Bourjos didn’t get much playing time this past season. But in 2011 he did.
In 502 ABs he hit 272/327/438765 26 Doubles 11 Triples 12 Homers 22 Stolen Bases
Those numbers are very solid for a CFer, and he’s a plus defender.
DS1
October 19th, 2012
7:45 pm
Big time CF’ers are McCutcheon and Hamilton. If we really wanted to, we could come up with a package that would make the Pirates at least think about sending him over.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
7:53 pm
Need some wade boggs-Slap at the ball make contact hitters to come to the BRAVES. Your lead off man K’s out baseloaded….that is not acceptable.
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
7:53 pm
“yeah generally they are not all that good, I’ve said that here for years.
A few started Ok and then fell off too”
Nolie — Nomo is one who started out okay and fell off.
I do hope that Darvish does well cause Texas posted enough to get him and he might not be your stereotypical Japanese League SP. He had good and not so great moments his first full yr and his stuff might be better suited for the American game, so we will see.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
7:53 pm
Thru Age 25…
Michael Bourn .237/.299/.313/.613 62 OPS+ (260 games, 658 PAs) 141 Hits, 26 XBH 111 RBIs and Runs scored
Peter Bourjos .247/.301/.402/.703 97 OPS+ (299 games, 940 PAs) 210 Hits, 75 XBH 153 RBIs and Runs scored
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
7:53 pm
DS1
No way they’d trade em now. They would really really have to be blown away. If I’m the Pirates I’m asking for Andrelton Simmons, Mike Minor, Julio Teheran, Randall Delgado, and JR Graham LOL
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
7:56 pm
I would take Scott Hariston over Andruw Jones now, and I am not a big Scott Hairston fan.
I want a good every day player for all 3 positions.
As for Ben Revere, I have not seen enough of him, only his stats and the lack of power is a concern. But I would take him over Bourjos whom I want no part of. I means, Revere is gonna give you no, I mean no power at all.
Would rather have Denard Span.
DS1
October 19th, 2012
7:56 pm
Va
I’d start by offering them Simmons, Teheran, Minor and Cunningham.
DS1
October 19th, 2012
7:58 pm
I’d take a flier on Bourjos too. He wouldn’t cost much. And if he didn’t pan out, then your not out much. At his worst, he hits about as well as Bourn did in the second half.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:00 pm
Simmons is untouchable, How could anybody think he is dispensable?
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
8:00 pm
No way I’d trade Simmons. The kid is possibly already the best defensive SS in baseball already.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:02 pm
DISGUSTED- THAT IS RIGHT – LOOK at Scott Hairston and Jason Bourgeois!!!!!!!! Most ppl can’t look outside the big names.
jeffrey d
October 19th, 2012
8:02 pm
I’d start by offering them Simmons, Teheran, Minor and Cunningham.
Doesn’t that create more problems than it solves?
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
8:02 pm
As mad as I am with Simmons with that WC game I would not trade him either.
But Andrelton has to be less inury prone and do better in big games to be a big time player.
There is real ability there.
jeffrey d
October 19th, 2012
8:03 pm
No way I’d trade Simmons. The kid is possibly already the best defensive SS in baseball already.
I’d trade Simmons for McCutchen
DS1
October 19th, 2012
8:03 pm
Are you guys crazy? Simmons is more valuable than McCutcheon???
No way.
Now, I’m not sure the Pirates would consider dealing him, nor if we’d have enough to offer them. But you can bet the farm I’d deal Simmons in a realistic deal to get Andrew McCutcheon. Any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
8:05 pm
I’d take a flier on Bourjos too. He wouldn’t cost much. And if he didn’t pan out, then your not out much. At his worst, he hits about as well as Bourn did in the second half.
This.
Don’t trade Simba! Blasphemy, I tell ya
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
8:06 pm
Can’t we do better than Bourjos?????
Why is it always cheap players we have to look at ——- no wonder why we are in the mediocre to fairly good range.
2012 was pretty good ——– a long playoff run would have made it a good and maybe a great yr.
Oh I get it ——– we have to accept a stinking 90 millionor so payroll which was nice in 1999, not so much today. And that cannot change.
Gnotorious
October 19th, 2012
8:07 pm
Braves should ovver Hanson to KC for a package centered on Cain. That would be a very affordable CF and leavs us with a lot of wiggle room for LF/3B with enough left over for a mid season upgrade. trade TP and keep Janish. This way we can extend some of our younger players.
DS1
October 19th, 2012
8:08 pm
jeffrey
If you do that deal, you still have plenty of starting pitching. Heck, you could even go out and get another starter if you were worried. You could go with Janish at SS until somebody else came along (Ahmed or a trade/free agent). Janish is almost as good as Simmons is at SS. And McCutcheon is WAY better than anybody else we have on our team today.
Can you say 950 OPS!!
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
8:09 pm
I know this is not happening but it would be cool if we were one of those teams that could pursue cool big time players.
It will be heart breaking once Heyward and Freeman have to leave.
I hope that Hudson can retire the way Chipper did — he is our leader now.
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
8:09 pm
jeffrey d
Well I’d trade Simmons for McCutchen straight up as well LOL
DS1
October 19th, 2012
8:10 pm
Prado/Heyward/McCutcheon/Freeman/Uggla/McCann/Bourjos/Janish
How would that lineup hit?
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:11 pm
Janish can not freak’n hit. Ahmed is far from being ready.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
8:11 pm
Cain…. an injury riddled player. Has played no more than 61 games in his MLB career, and that came this year. His year was shortened due to injury. No thanks
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
8:12 pm
The Braves should be able to get Cain for Hanson straight up — assuming that KC wants to pay Hanson the arb $$$$$$$$$.
Why would we have to give more for such an unproven 27 yr older like Cain — and I would rather see a better player.
Cain has not really done much to date.
I’d actually prefer Peter Bourjos over Cain. And I am not a Bourjos fan.
Can’t we do better ?????????
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:13 pm
Sounds like another one and done lineup since you are asking
DS1
October 19th, 2012
8:13 pm
If you could trade Simmons and WIllingham for McCutcheon and Janish, you wouldn’t do it?
(again folks, I really don’t expect this sort of a deal to develop, but if I were the GM I’d sure make the phone call)
Gnotorious
October 19th, 2012
8:15 pm
Not a package for Cain, a pckage CENTERED on Cain.
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
8:16 pm
I kind of think that Janish played a bit over his head this yr for us — but I like him as a back up.
Not an every day shortstop. And he cannot hit. I don’t think he was that good when he was in Cincy.
Simmons is our SS. But would I move him as part of a package for Mc Cutchen, man, not saying I would but it would be tempting. Mc Cutchen’s record speaks for itself. MVP material, big time player.
Disgusted
October 19th, 2012
8:17 pm
The KC outfielder I want is Alex Gordon.
Would like Myers but KC is not moving him and they should not.
We can do better for CF than the injury prone Cain.
Nowhere man
October 19th, 2012
8:19 pm
No way anyone should think about trading simmons. It would be Brett Butler all over again. Simmons staying healthy is important of course. The price is right too.
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
8:20 pm
I’d offer Hanson, Delgado, and cash for Wil Myers
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:22 pm
KC will lol at you at that deal. Get serious
Nowhere man
October 19th, 2012
8:24 pm
Someone earlier mentioned getting McCutchen. I don’t see the pirates letting him go. It would cost a lot to get him too.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:24 pm
They would want mike minor, Teheran, Delgado and I could go on and on. KC knows what they got
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
8:27 pm
Homer
Well it’s not like your trading for a proven player. He’s still a prospect that’s never played a big league game.
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
8:28 pm
I guess we could get whoever we wanted for Julio Teheran then too huh?
DS1
October 19th, 2012
8:29 pm
Giants gotta blow em out tonight. Then go home and school them in the art of major league pitching. I do NOT want the Cards advancing.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:29 pm
I thought about what you said VABRAVES fan and I forgot how desperate KC is for pitching, add in the cash like you said to that deal and they may go for it.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:30 pm
Teheran is one that confuses me. I don’t know if his stock is high or low.
DS1
October 19th, 2012
8:32 pm
If I’m the KC GM, there is no way in heck I’d ever trade Wil Myers. Are you kidding me? No way.
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
8:32 pm
Homer
If I’m KC I’d still probably say no honestly. But in general its a solid offer for just 1 prospect who never’s played a MLB game. I might would offer another prospect in the deal, both teams would be rolling the dice big time.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:37 pm
The X factor is Myers has already had knee problems, I like Oscar Taveras more then I like him
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:42 pm
Mets are going after Willingham and Shin-Soo-Choo. Boras going deal Bourn to the Gnats and the Braves are stuck wondering what to do.
David O'Brien
October 19th, 2012
8:45 pm
I’d offer Hanson, Delgado, and cash for Wil Myers — VaBravesFan
And the Royals would probably have a hard time keeping from laughing before they hung up the phone.
DS1
October 19th, 2012
8:49 pm
DOB
Any idea if the Pirates are willing to listen on offers for McCutchen? I’d back up the truck for that guy.
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
8:49 pm
DOB
You can only offer but so much for a unproven player, regardless of how good of a prospect he is. Plus I already said if I’m the Royals I’d likely say no thanks as well. But you gotta start somewhere.
DS1
October 19th, 2012
8:49 pm
Zito doing a nice job of getting out of trouble last inning! Go Giants!!
DS1
October 19th, 2012
8:51 pm
Va
Have you looked at his numbers from last year in AA and AAA?? He’s a frickin beast! Doesn’t guarantee success at the majors, but he has Stanton, Heyward, Harper, Trout type numbers last season.
DS1
October 19th, 2012
8:53 pm
I can’t remember the last time a team dealt a prospect that was on the cusp like Myers is.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:56 pm
DOB is selling short the value of Delgado to teams desperate for pitching. Hanson may not have much trade value but his K’s can not be denied. You have to hold on to Hanson and hope his trade value goes up. Braves are in a bad corner right now. Lost of Chipper, Bourn, and Bmac has a question mark and Wren is going earn his money this off season.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
8:59 pm
Glass promised KC a winning team in 2014 and he has to look at pitching. I would love to go to Toronto and pick that farm team they have. What a farm team Toronto has.
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
8:59 pm
Trades like that never happen, but fun talking about. Teams are really afraid of trading away a future big time player. If the Royals were a few moves from being serious contenders is when they’d possibly move him. They could probably land James Shields or another big time pitcher for Wil Myers.
DS1
October 19th, 2012
9:03 pm
The Rangers will probably move Mike Olt to OF next year if they lose Hamilton.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
9:07 pm
How could you keep Myers if they offer Shields? They have a talented OF already. They could even dump Frenchy in that deal and nobody can say KC did not get the better of that deal.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
9:09 pm
Rangers told Hamilton to test the FA market. He is gone.
VaBravesFan
October 19th, 2012
9:10 pm
KC would of course have to offer more than just Wil Myers. Teams don’t trade a proven great player for 1 prospect.
Homer of A-town sports
October 19th, 2012
9:12 pm
I should be happy and be talking about the Falcons but man the Braves have my soul for some reason.
DS1
October 19th, 2012
9:13 pm
Sorry guys, but no way KC would even think about dealing Myers for Shields. No way. Have you guys looked at his numbers?????
I mean, really? Shields? For 2 years? No way.