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Mitchell
October 11th, 2012
12:51 am
Come on A’s.
Come back. One last time.
We can’t have Yankees-Tigers, Cardinals-Giants.
I won’t do it.
Cannot watch any of that.
nolie
October 11th, 2012
12:52 am
Cards Rule!!!
Mitchell
October 11th, 2012
12:52 am
Oh, that was so deep.
Oh my God.
Ow that hurts.
Come on.
Coulda used that last inning.
jj
October 11th, 2012
12:53 am
Nolie if you notice I didn’t say the Braves should get him. My son lives there and goes to games often. When I visit I go with him and never had a fan say anything bad about him. Media did.
jj
October 11th, 2012
12:54 am
Tied game in 9th Oak has returned.
nolie
October 11th, 2012
12:54 am
I live there and watch every game, and most that I know think he is a slacker
Mitchell
October 11th, 2012
12:56 am
Cards rule?
nolie, I’m going to have to pretend you didn’t say that.
nolie
October 11th, 2012
12:58 am
sorry, Cards are a long long time fave. NL = Braves,Cards,Reds
jj
October 11th, 2012
1:03 am
A’s 4 runs in 9th..Coco the hero so far..player most blog fans never wanted in Braves uniform.
IFR
October 11th, 2012
1:04 am
We should trade Hanson for Verlander….maybe throw in Durbin and a. Player to be named later. Then we can trade Uggla for Mike Trout straight up…….seems legit right?
Dayum!! We need to get the Bravos whatever the A’s are drinking. What a win! But seriously good blog and even better music pick. Thanks.
jj
October 11th, 2012
1:04 am
agree Cards look like favs again to me.
jj
October 11th, 2012
1:06 am
Man thats great for players and fans. Hope I live to see it again in Atlanta.
ncgary
October 11th, 2012
1:08 am
if anyone is interested , here are some of the holistic health studies done on als and other motor neuron diseases
these are valid and may be able to help some of you.
im still going with the prayer option
its never failed me yet
http://www.alsuntangled.com/completed.html
http://www.alsuntangled.com/index.html
anyway holistic and natural methods through diet
and prayer and certain frequencys seem to work on some.
i know id like to see some more braves baseball
so i hope it works for me
lol
nolie
October 11th, 2012
1:08 am
I can remember when The Cards were the farthest South and the farthest West team in baseball. Huge fan base back in those days
Mitchell
October 11th, 2012
1:08 am
I feel pretty confident Craig Kimbrel wouldn’t have done that.
Of course, as long as he wears a Braves uniform he won’t be in the position to close out a playoff series anytime soon.
Gosh, why do I have to be so negative?
nolie
October 11th, 2012
1:08 am
I hope so too Gary.
nolie
October 11th, 2012
1:09 am
to protect yourself some from disappointment
Fredo
October 11th, 2012
1:10 am
great comeback A’s, now you just have to rough up Verlander and it’s on to the ALCS
nolie
October 11th, 2012
1:11 am
prefer Detroit to As. worked for Detroit and the As were the hotbed of PEDS
N8
October 11th, 2012
1:11 am
“I can remember when The Cards were the farthest South and the farthest West team in baseball. Huge fan base back in those days.”
Was that during the Lincoln administration?
jj
October 11th, 2012
1:12 am
ncgary, I’ve got Cancer what you got for that ..prayer and faith is most I got. But I will never give up..
N8
October 11th, 2012
1:13 am
Sorry, nolie in this day and age of teams overspending to line their rosters with all-stars, I find it hard not to root for the A’s and their pawn-shop budget and mentality.
Just a band of misfits, has beens and never will be’s that for whatever reason player really well together.
Seth Smith? Really?
nolie
October 11th, 2012
1:16 am
sure I see why a lot are rooting for them, good story
Mitchell
October 11th, 2012
1:17 am
jj
October 11th, 2012
1:06 am
Man thats great for players and fans. Hope I live to see it again in Atlanta.
jj, I hope you were at least able to see it when Sid slid cause what the A’s just did in Oakland is never happening in Atlanta.
Ever.
jj
October 11th, 2012
1:17 am
Leyland will smoke a pack up in next hour.
jj
October 11th, 2012
1:19 am
Mitchell I was there..never forget it.
nolie
October 11th, 2012
1:19 am
and it is all your fault Mitchell. The players read your negativity and just feel hopeless and give up.
Mitchell
October 11th, 2012
1:19 am
Didn’t mean to italicize all of that.
nolie, are you sure you’re even a Braves fan?
This explains a lot.
N8
October 11th, 2012
1:21 am
Other than that, I don’t have much vested interest in them. Haven’t really cared about the AL since the days of the Braves actually being able to reasonably make plans of playing that team in the final series of the season, ya know?
That’s what kind of sucks, yet is kind of cool. Once the Braves are out of the playoffs, I just want to see good games. This A’s Tigers game was a good game. The Yankees/Orioles game was a good game.
And even though the Braves lost, the Cards/Braves game was an entertaining game.
Nevada Roy
October 11th, 2012
1:24 am
Can you rely on AL performance numbers being the same in the NL?
jj
October 11th, 2012
1:25 am
I believe if Wren makes the right moves it will happen but its also a lot of luck. I’ve been lucky I was at Braves World Series games etc. Just wish for one more soon.
jj
October 11th, 2012
1:27 am
Goodnight fans…Nolie no hard feels.
Mitchell
October 11th, 2012
1:39 am
Nick Swisher is an unbearable human being.
I literally cannot stand him.
I would have to lie down if I was ever unlucky enough to be in his presence.
sapelodawg
October 11th, 2012
1:41 am
Your obvious drinking habit is beginning to show
sapelodawg
October 11th, 2012
1:48 am
Prado is a great asset …………. he is not a quality 3rd baseman ……… sign a 3rd baseman, and a quality outfielder ……2nd base is a waste of money with Uglier ………. dump him
1st is not exactly a strong point but I do like the defense ……………with Uggla gone ; Prado would be a killer 2nd baseman …………. Hire Bobby Cox
Mitchell
October 11th, 2012
1:48 am
A’s starting pitcher, A.J. Griffin.
Who?
Braves, meanwhile found a way to lose to an 88 win team with Kris Medlen on the mound.
sapelodawg
October 11th, 2012
1:51 am
Catchers who cannot bat their weight and never throw out a base runner are a dime a dozen ……Ross is not great, but he is better than what we have been sending out there to fill the 2 hole
Desibrave
October 11th, 2012
1:56 am
Here is what I would do if I was the Braves GM.
Task 1 : Send Fredi Gonzalez to talk to Carlos Lee and sign him up to play LF
Task 2: Trade Uggla to Seattle for Chone Figgins
Task 3: Try to sign Victorino to play CF, if that doesn’t work Figgins will be CF
Task 4: Sign Beltre to play 3B
Task 5: Move Prado to 2B
Victorino / Figgins
Prado
Heyward
Carlos Lee
Freeman
Beltre
McCann/Ross
Simmons
Ward
October 11th, 2012
2:06 am
Hello everyone! DOB- Good article, and I agree. I forgot about Pagan, and think he would be great, and I would like Swisher if Braves can sign him, or Victrino, or B.J. Upton. Would like Bourn, but Thinking at the right price……Good article, and makes since. Willingham worries me with his age, but I’m not picky. Just would like improvement.
David O'Brien
October 11th, 2012
2:07 am
Here is what I would do if I was the Braves GM.
Task 1 : Send Fredi Gonzalez to talk to Carlos Lee and sign him up to play LF
Task 2: Trade Uggla to Seattle for Chone Figgins
Task 3: Try to sign Victorino to play CF, if that doesn’t work Figgins will be CF
Task 4: Sign Beltre to play 3B
Task 5: Move Prado to 2B
Victorino / Figgins
Prado
Heyward
Carlos Lee
Freeman
Beltre
McCann/Ross
Simmons — Desibrave
Thank God you’re not a GM. That might be the worst lineup in the league. You’d have 35-year-old Figgins, who hit .184 with a .484 OPS in 2011 and .181 with a .533 OPS in 2012, batting leadoff. And you’d have 36-year-old Carlos Lee, who hit .264 with 9 HRs and a .697 OPS in 550 at-bats this season, batting cleanup.
Oy.
Ward
October 11th, 2012
2:08 am
I would focus on what DOB brought up! It makes sense to me…….
Ward
October 11th, 2012
2:19 am
Also, I wouldn’t give up on Uggla. Dale Mrphy had few low points in his career, and I think Uggla will rebound next year. All players have their up, and down seasons…..
Ward
October 11th, 2012
2:23 am
I wouldn’t give up on Mac. Yes, I blasted him on the shift, but he was injured. Would like to see him next year, and so on. I don’t believe Mac is done yet.
Ward
October 11th, 2012
2:29 am
All, have a good one! It will be interesting this winter meetings. Nolie, glad your back on the blog. I bought The Movie “The Raven”. Heard it’s really good, and Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!” Talk tomorrow……
mace224
October 11th, 2012
3:47 am
Andruw Jones is not on the post season roster and Yanks are not going to resign him. That said, I wouldn’t want him.
mace224
October 11th, 2012
3:48 am
I love that Gattis kid.
mace224
October 11th, 2012
3:48 am
I love that Gattis kid.
mace224
October 11th, 2012
3:51 am
Please do NOT suggest Juan Francisco as the next third baseman. I wouldn’t even bring him back.
nolie
October 11th, 2012
3:56 am
☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ & ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ward
Bobby's Cox
October 11th, 2012
4:08 am
I like Pagan, Willingham too. But I love Ben Revere.
If we were going to make a trade with Minnesota, I’d try to get Revere, then target Ross for LF (hits LH’s better than Willingham). Would Oakland trade Cepesdes for more pitching like they always do? That would be a nice option also.
Though Revere hits from the left side, he hit lefties better than righties this year, had a higher OBP, and OPS’d the same from both sides of the plate. He’s a better base stealer than Pagan, though both play exceptional defense.
That’s 2 OF players for cheap. You could then eat part of Uggla’s salary, move Prado back to 2B, and spend a load of cash on 3B. As much as I’d like that to happen, there really are no free agents besides Wright, and not a lot of 3B worth trading for (that would be available) unless we can pry Headley.
mace224
October 11th, 2012
4:13 am
I say sign the Upton Brothers. They’re a great singing group.
nolie
October 11th, 2012
4:14 am
Revere has a crappy OBP, I don’t care about his batting average if his OBP is 320. guy refuses to take a walk
Buddy Holly
October 11th, 2012
4:18 am
No, no, a thousand times no to Shane Victorino. I can’t look at him without thinking of the blasted Phillies, and what’s more, Victorino is a demon goblin.
59bulldawg
October 11th, 2012
4:43 am
I like the Pagan possibility in center. But there’s no way in hell that I trade Delgado and keep Hanson.
Bobby's Cox
October 11th, 2012
4:51 am
Revere was just in his 2nd season. His OBP was .333, not .320. Still not ideal but he’s coming into his own.
Couch Tater
October 11th, 2012
5:07 am
Using updated ZiPS projections for Strasburg, Jackson and Detwiler
If, the GM told the players he used computer modeling to shut Strasburg down, I’d like to be in the clubhouse 2 minutes after the GM left.
…with a camera for the players faces.
National Geographic Photo Contest/People and Culture.
No. 1 Braves Fan
October 11th, 2012
5:10 am
bulldogbubba: Read you post from last night. I was long gone to bed. I`m still around hoping Wren will get it right with what the Braves need. I read all these responses to DOB`s GM suggestions. Too many to digest. I just want Wren to get a power right
handed hitter that the Braves can afford. He can be a 3B or OF. Also, I would let Bourn go and try for a less expensive CF. Go Braves!
jj
October 11th, 2012
5:47 am
DOB,you have your opinion but as for me Hanson must go before Delgato and Teheran.I believe the Braves can get something for him especially if he is part of deal that includes others.Why pay this guy MILLIONS when you can have Delgato who really pitched better than Hanson but did not get the run support that Hanson got.The only way i bring back Mac is that he takes less money and if he really wants to remain a Brave,he would but if not bye bye baby.With the money available,Wren needs to be very careful what he does with it.Instead of giving MILLIONS to Mac and Hanson he can lock up Prado,Heyward,Medlen,and our closer to long term deals.We need to keep Bourne instead of these two injury prone guys who also have under achieve over the past three years.It is time to move on and stop signing guys because they are good guys.C”MON MAN.Wren it is your chance to put your TEAM on field and as the GM with Falcons did,,move on from the past and establish your vision.GO BRAVES.Oh yea,why no love fo Francisco?
jj
October 11th, 2012
5:54 am
Why not talk to Rockies about trade for their CF and M.Cuddyer.Probably wrong spelling,but it is 6 in morning and i don’t feel like searching.That is a trade i like and it gives us a CF,with leadoff skills and an extra OF that can play.
Couch Tater
October 11th, 2012
6:03 am
FWIW.. From Philly about CF..
The smart play is patience, since the only clear difference-maker available is Josh Hamilton, and that situation is so unique that I find it hard to believe that the Phillies would make a serious push. Patience could be difficult to exert, since the center field market has all the makings of one in which agents and players will spend the early part of the offseason waiting for the first domino to fall. Michael Bourn and B.J. Upton are likely the first two dominos, but both have the right combination of potential and red flags to lead to a stalemate with teams who target them. Which would likely leave players like Angel Pagan and Melky Cabrera and Shane Victorino waiting around for the top of the market to get set. Those five are the clear everyday options who will be available. Cody Ross and Scott Hairston probably are not everyday options, although it would not surprise me to see one of those two land with the Phillies. At least right now it wouldn’t.
Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/State-of-the-Phillies-Center-field.html#ixzz28z0CCtkY
Watch sports videos you won’t find anywhere else
TommyP
October 11th, 2012
6:11 am
Boy those CF options don’t look very good at the $ numbers that are being suggested.
If you sign Bourn or Pagan to those types of contracts at their ages, you’re really going to be kicking yourself for the last 3 or so years of the deal. That scares me.
A cheap alternative in CF would be to swing a minor deal for David DeJesus from the Cubs and platoon him in with Reed Johnson.
DeJesus’ numbers last year aren’t great but take a look at what he did vs. RH pitchers: .289, .365 OBP, .461 SLUG… He has a contract at $4.25 mil next year with a 2014 option of $6.5 mil.
Reed Johnson has a CAREER average of .311 vs. lefties, .367 OBP, .461 SLUG, .828 OPS. That’s pretty stout.
They won’t be the defensive gazelles that everyone seems to want out there but there aren’t many of those at affordable costs.
Go cheap in center and spend that money elsewhere.
Frankie
October 11th, 2012
6:30 am
Coco Crisp wasn’t a real favorite here to acquire was he???? I certainly never pushed for him. He probably comes over to the Braves and hits .200 and out of baseball right now. Nate McLouth still in a MLB uniform too funny. The Braves way, resurrect your career when done playing here and underachieve when you get here. Bourn lights it up in a Astro uni and becomes average when he puts on a Braves one. Uggla goes from being streaky career hitter to a mediocre hitter. I thought these things happen to the team on the northside of Chicago? Friday night loss no biggie. Wait till next year.
K Conway
October 11th, 2012
7:01 am
Cut McCann loose! Braves have no players now that is worth a trip to the ball park!
richbrave
October 11th, 2012
7:08 am
AFL
3B ED SALCEDO [.111 BA] 0-5, 1 E [1, fielding].
SS NICK AHMED [.333 BA] 2-6, 1 SO, 1 SB [1].
C MATT KENNELLY [.000 BA] 0-5, 1 E [1, throwing].
RHSP ZEKE SPRUILL [0.00 ERA] 2.1 IP, 2 H, 1 R. 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 SO.
LHRP CHRIS JONES [BS 1, 4.50 ERA] 2.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R/ER, 1 BB, 3 SO.
richbrave
October 11th, 2012
7:09 am
DOGS lose 5-6
Atticus
October 11th, 2012
7:14 am
Josh Willingham or Cody Ross and Angel Pagan? THAT is your answer. Good thing you don’t run the team. You think this team wins the playoffs with that lineup? Not a chance. Youa re forgetting you are LOSING Chipper and his leadership. Unless Mac or Uggla significantly improves that lineup has no chance to win series. Yes they can win 90 games but again won’t be built to win it all.
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
7:15 am
Care to retract that comment? At this point the “50 year old Raul Ibanez” would be the most clutch hitter in the Braves lineup.
No. Two at bats is not enough when constructing a lineup. You need to get out of baseball and get to football, as it’s pretty clear of the type of fan you are, N8. A lack of understanding that going to with hot hand gets you into lots of trouble often.
richbrave
October 11th, 2012
7:17 am
Buddy Holly
October 11th, 2012
4:18 am
“……No, no, a thousand times no to Shane Victorino. I can’t look at him without thinking of the blasted Phillies, and what’s more, Victorino is a demon goblin……”
Well, a-hell, a-hell
little things you say and do
Make me want to be with yoo-a-hoo
rave on this CRAZY feelin’
‘Cause I know
You’re got me reelin’
When you say,
‘I love you,’
rave on……….
Efrim
October 11th, 2012
7:19 am
It’s amazing how many folks have the football mentality when watching their favorite baseball team. I think that’s probably the biggest problem with some here – just no understanding of that. N8 is a perfect example. Gets fired up off of small samples and has no issues burying players on the team – because, well, who cares if someone remembers what he said? Pretty easy to look back to last years archives and see the garbage he spewed about Heyward – of which he was incredibly wrong.
Rick in Macon
October 11th, 2012
7:19 am
Great article, DOB, but the off-season moves will be for nought unless you get rid of Fredi G, McDowell, Hanson and Uggla. Bobby Valentine would be a much better choice then Fredi.
Desibrave
October 11th, 2012
7:47 am
DOB, I may have to differ with that.. I am sorry…,
Figgins was terrific with Angels till 2 years ago, He needs “rehab” . He is from GA that will also aid in the process.
and Carlos Lee, will get pitches to hit in that lineup.
As a GM of an org like Braves that don’t want to get in the Free agent market and compete with other teams what else is available in the market?
There is no doubt Carlos Lee will perform better than what Uggla did.
He couldn’t rake up homers as he as he was hitting in that Marlins park
If DOB ran the Braves...
October 11th, 2012
7:50 am
…there would only be about ninety games a year.
Ted Striker
October 11th, 2012
7:52 am
DOB — Excellent analysis. You follow things way closer than me, understand it more than me. I agree with most everything except that I have doubts about picking up option on McCann. It’s “iffy” to me because I see these offseason moves as being (at least) two year decisions rather than next year.
braveshoo
October 11th, 2012
7:53 am
I agree about Willingham, but I would try to get Span too, and give the Twins both Hanson and Maholm. Twins get 2 experienced and relatively cheap starting pitchers, which I think should do it. Braves rotation is Hudson, Medlen, Minor, Tehran, and Delgado. Beachy takes one spot after the all- star break. If you want the best starting pitching in the majors, then you add Greinke for 20m for 5 years, which we can now afford.That is a staff that can go a long way in postseason.
alanfalcon
October 11th, 2012
7:56 am
Dave, I like you thinking with one exception and that is Hanson. I don’t see the desire in him to
make the effort to improve his stamina, correct his mechanics to hold runners on base. Tommy seems to be just find with Tommy, to me thats a dead give away to his future sucess
Frankie
October 11th, 2012
7:56 am
Wow. Made a comment yesterday regarding leadership and just really what makes a leader. Anybody catch MLB highlights of Giants game?
Hunter Pence comes over and plays for a team for 2 months. Attitudes caught not taught kind of deal???????????
Gives his team a fiery emotional speech yesterday and come out and play like the 27 Yankees the last two days. How important is it to be a fiery leader?? I don’t know the answer. I do know Chipper getting the boys on the dugout step last season wasn’t text book and results surely didn’t match his intentions.
I still think a 3 run homerun in the 8th to win a game shows leadership. Still, this whole BS “Braves way” needs to disappear. I don’t want Yunel Escobar on this team but shake it damn up now. Victorino? Love to see that type of personality on this team.
Angel Pagan??? Probably would be discouraged from front office to stop “saluting” when he reaches second base and ultimately would become a .240 hitter in a Braves uniform.
Football mentality here, yeah a little. Still ticked from attending that game on Friday and watching a scared team play from start to finish from management to players. Enough of the “Braves way” John and Frank, and lets get the right players to play October baseball and advance.
Definitely ready for change of guard regarding personality of this team. Mr. Prado here are the keys, make it your clubhouse and bring just a tad more emotion to this team please.
NYBRAVESFAN
October 11th, 2012
8:01 am
If Mccann opts for the surgery wouldn’t it make sense for the Braves to talk to him, decline the option and sign him to like a 3 year deal with maybe a cheaper salary than the 13 mill option he has?
DOB, I like your points and your roster additions/subtractions make sense however, I have to disagree a little here. You don’t replace Chipper Jones with a Josh Willingham. you don’t fix a team in need of offense and clutch hitting with a 34 year old who is good every other year. This team needs a stud, someone that mirrors a Gary Sheffield, or Fred Mcgriff of the past. You know the guys we used to get to come to Atlanta. There isn’t much on the free agent market and I wouldn’t touch Josh Hamilton with a ten foot pole soiled in booze. The best move we could make would be to somehow trade for Justin Upton.
Jimmy
October 11th, 2012
8:03 am
DOB – “Pick up McCann’s option. I can’t see not picking it up, considering all he’s done for the franchise and the fact they don’t have a catcher ready to replace him.”
Considering all he’s done for the franchise? What? Does that really weigh in on the Braves decision?
Now, the fact that we don’t have a replacement – yeah, that matters. But the “all he’s done” is a ridiculous, homer statement.
BravesFanInMaine
October 11th, 2012
8:04 am
Great article DOB….. You in my opinion write the best articles and I find your baseball and financial thoughts dead on accurate…. I haev thought since chipper said in march he was retiring that the braves should move prado to third…. IMO you have to look out on the market and see what is available at 3rd base and left field….. 3rd base is the hot corner for a reason and IMO I think with prado at third the braves have one of the best infields in baseball…… Looking forward to the free agent frenzt just wish these playoffs would end and I hope anyteam other than the yankees win this year…. id even root for the cardinals
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
October 11th, 2012
8:05 am
@Frankie
“Football mentality here, yeah a lot. Still ticked from attending that game on Friday and watching a scared team play from start to finish from management to players.”
Co-Sign! 2/3’s of the Fans that were there Friday Night were the Young Hardcore/SEC Variety, not the Boring/Corporate type who normally attend the lackluster games during the weekdays….
Frankie
October 11th, 2012
8:10 am
“Co-Sign! 2/3’s of the Fans that were there Friday Night were the Young Hardcore/SEC Variety, not the Boring/Corporate type who normally attend the lackluster games during the weekdays….”
And I am the “boring, middle age type” LOL, but didn’t act like it that night(although didn’t toss anything on the field!).
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
October 11th, 2012
8:12 am
Ok People
Assuming that Both Martini and Med’s get Locked Up between Now and December what will the years and Dinero be…? (Over/Under)
I’m still effing Livid about Friday, and its really gonna be a Kick in the Balls when They Upset The Curley W’s, So I refuse not to watch that Garbage
From Here on Out, Go Reds!
George Washington
October 11th, 2012
8:16 am
fredi g. has to go for the Braves to be a great team. Celebrating after reaching the playoffs as a wild card team shows very poor leadership. I wonder who’s idea it was to have champagne in the clubhouse. It could have been fredi, wren, the team president, who knows, but it showed the leadership of the Braves are satisfied with making the playoffs. A great leader would have told the team they were expected to reach the playoffs and the goal was to win the world series, then we’ll celebrate.
It’s tough being a Braves fan. Those Cardinals seem to be a resilient bunch. Making the playoffs isn’t good enough for them. They have loftier goals in mind. After losing Pujols and LaRussa they’re rolling along. That’s a well run organization. I may be able to change. I think I’ll try for a couple seasons. So long folks.
ChattTownBrian
October 11th, 2012
8:28 am
George Wash, not that I disagree with you all the way, but this ain’t the 90s anymore. That shi* is long gone dude. Playoffs don’t come around as easily, so theyre gonna celebrate. You’re comparing us and other teams to the probably the luckiest team in the whole sport in the Cardinals. They weren’t even on our level all season and only got ahead of us last year cause of the once in a lifetime collapse we had.
Luck plays a big part in the game and somebody is going to get it. Lately, it’s been StL.
ChattTownBrian
October 11th, 2012
8:32 am
NYBravesfan, you say a every other year player like Willingham, and then suggest J.Upton. I know he’s not 34 like JW, but still..
NYBRAVESFAN
October 11th, 2012
8:36 am
ChattTownBrian – i hear ya, but he is young and even with his down year last year he stole bags, score a bunch of runs, had a good average and has a ton of upside. Willingham has no upside , he is 34 and hit 34 homers this year. Willingham’s value only decreases as time goes on.
Jeff R
October 11th, 2012
8:41 am
Unless Hanson can really turn things around this winter, he’s something of a liability. Having Hanson in the rotation every fifth day is a bit like rolling dice.
I accept that the Twins wouldn’t want Hanson as part of a deal for Willingham (if that’s a route Wren chooses to go), but who’s to say what trades that Wren pursues? Wren might be able to roll Hanson into a package of some sort.
At this point, I think the Braves’ rotation is stronger with Delgado than Hanson. I really don’t want Hanson back if he repeats his second half fade. But what we want and what we get can be very different things, huh?
Jeff R
October 11th, 2012
8:43 am
fredi g. has to go for the Braves to be a great team.
I don’t think Fredi’s going, unless Wren makes a surprise announcement.
Rick Of Roy
October 11th, 2012
8:45 am
Don’t pick up option on McCann. DOB, are you crazy ? Cornerstone or not he is in rapid decline and injurous. He splits time with Ross so he’s not even a full time player. And you want to pay him $10 million a year ? Decline,injurous,part time players don’t get $10 million.
Try to trade Uggla & a top pitching prospect for either a 2B or LF & eat some of Uggla’s salary. I like D’Backs aaron Hill for 2B.
Let Bourn walk. He wants top dollar and Boras will get it.
No way Yankees let Nick Swisher go. You can bank on them resigning him. He’s a fan favorite in N.Y.
Mixxo
October 11th, 2012
8:47 am
Told you guys Ibanez was clutch.
I suggest you deal with it.
Jeff R
October 11th, 2012
8:48 am
Don’t pick up option on McCann.
And the alternative?
Try to trade Uggla
Wren’s not going to do so. Nothing reported thus far suggests that Wren would attempt to move Uggla.
Rick Of Roy
October 11th, 2012
8:49 am
Braves could have signed C.Ross,Willingham,or Cuddyer last year. All were free agents. Braves cheap asses balked.
Ralph
October 11th, 2012
8:51 am
There is no one out there I would trade Delgado for, he is the future of the braves pitching staff.
Rick Of Roy
October 11th, 2012
8:51 am
Bethancourt & Ross can handle catching.
At least TRY to trade Uggla. Some team might take him to get Teheran or Delgado.
ncscoots
October 11th, 2012
8:52 am
I’m too depressed to post. O’Brien’s choices (and the fact that the FO’s mindset is probably more in tune with them than with mine) make me sad.
Pagan, Victorino, Swisher, Ross, et al. I frankly don’t know that I can still root for a team that includes some combination of that group. I’d have to decide whether my esophagus can withstand all the hurling I’d be doing.
Rick Of Roy
October 11th, 2012
8:52 am
I won’t attend another braves game if Uggla starts out next year hitting .200
Rick Of Roy
October 11th, 2012
8:56 am
What about Fredi Gonzalez,Julio Teheran, & Dan Uggla to D’Backs for Aaron Hill & Justin Upton ?
I like it.
Vol_In_Ohio
October 11th, 2012
8:57 am
How does insurance pay if McCann misses part of the season? Won’t this be a new contractual agreement? It seems hard to believe that they would sign up for this kind of risk.
I understand how it works with a clean bill of health at the start of a new contract, but not with a pre-existing condition. Seems risky to think that there’s potential coverage there.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 11th, 2012
9:00 am
I just don’t see Cody Ross as an impressive player, never did. Every year around the trade deadline the Braves always kick around his name and Willingham too. Willingham would be better than Ross, but he’s just about past his prime.–Teddy B
Kinda how I feel. But Cody Ross does seem to be at least decent vs RHP, but absolutely destroys lefties. If he’ll want around the same salary as what Willingham is getting, I’d spring for him. Would rather not trade one of our top arms for Josh.
And no, I’m not really a prospect hugger. I sort of wanted Frank to include Minor so we could get Pence last year!
Mixxo
October 11th, 2012
9:03 am
I laughed like hell when 4×4 Prince booted that easy grounder…..and the tried to run after it. lulz