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nolie
October 15th, 2012
7:03 pm
what would a timeout do for it?
jeffrey d
October 15th, 2012
7:06 pm
Tom Hudson has a 186-102 record since the beginning of the 2000 season
We should make a run for him
nolie
October 15th, 2012
7:10 pm
nah, he don’t throw hard enuff for here Jeffrey
Homer of A-town sports
October 15th, 2012
7:10 pm
Look at Jacoby Ellsbury he does bat L but his numbers do not decline against lhp. I still have no problem in signing Greinke and finding a solid platoon for LF. You can never have enough great pitching and Greinke has shown great interest in becoming a Brave
nolie
October 15th, 2012
7:12 pm
Ellsbury can’t keep his body on the field enough to be worth much of anything
jeffrey d
October 15th, 2012
7:16 pm
Well I was commenting on the “Tom” part. Guess everyone’s just more mature than me
nolie
October 15th, 2012
7:22 pm
Child
Homer of A-town sports
October 15th, 2012
7:25 pm
Problem with Shin-soo-coo is he bats L and not sure what Boston would want for him. Sure Ludwick’s option gets picked up so again not sure what it would take to get him.
George_George
October 15th, 2012
7:36 pm
David O’Brien
October 15th, 2012
4:23 pm
Tom Hudson has a 186-102 record since the beginning of the 2000 season, trailing only CC Sabathia (191-102) and Roy Halladay (190-93) in wins during that period.
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I never heard of him, who did he play for? Are we thinking about tradeing for him or is he a FA?
George_George
October 15th, 2012
7:37 pm
David O’Brien
October 15th, 2012
4:23 pm
Tom Hudson has a 186-102 record since the beginning of the 2000 season, trailing only CC Sabathia (191-102) and Roy Halladay (190-93) in wins during that period.
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I never heard of him, who did he play for? Are we thinking about tradeing for him or is he a FA??
jeffrey d
October 15th, 2012
7:38 pm
killer….
raleighbravefan
October 15th, 2012
7:44 pm
Homer – Is that you, TOBF?
George_George
October 15th, 2012
7:48 pm
Those letters from the President of BRAVES are getting kind of old, this is r=the second year he has done it. It would be better if he got us some good players.
raleighbravefan
October 15th, 2012
7:55 pm
George – He was right last year, and he will be proven right this year. 94 wins, and at the mercy of the 1 gamer…Division winner was the best team in the league…until they shut down their best pitcher, and the rest of the staff finally gave out. Be negative all you wish. The FO is doing a great job, with the resources they have to work with.
jeffrey d
October 15th, 2012
8:04 pm
this is r=the
r = the. I’m not familiar with that equation
keyLargo
October 15th, 2012
8:05 pm
I found a coincidence between Andruw and Brian McCann. Before they both gave up working out and staying in shape their stats were remarkably the same.
Andruw worked about 5 more years before he sold his self to the Dodgers and was so bad they paid him milllions just to not show up.
McCann had a peak year in 2006 and another good one in 2008 before he threw in the towel and quit but the stats are remarkably the same.
Mac 2005-12 .279 .351 .475 .826
Andruw 96 – 12 .263 .342 .497 .839
jeffrey d
October 15th, 2012
8:14 pm
McCann had a peak year in 2006 and another good one in 2008 before he threw in the towel and quit but the stats are remarkably the same.
How did he quit? He led the NL with an .834 OPS in 2009 and an .817 OPS in 2010 (and was as high as .883 on September 4th)
Obviously he’s struggled this year, but why are people quick to forget that he’s been one of the best hitting catchers in baseball after a season?
Powder Blue
October 15th, 2012
8:14 pm
JS wrote another letter? What did he say?
Braveone
October 15th, 2012
8:14 pm
From the previous blog which had 1,687 comments, Efrim led the way with 134 posts. There were 246 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 Efrim 134
2 P-Town Brave © 103
3 TheOnlyBravesFan 92
4 ncscoots 71
5 DS1 65
6 JoeBrave 52
7 nolie 50
8 N8 49
9 Tumbledown 49
10 Murph 46
11 Shaun 46
12 Lew 39
13 Brava 36
14 DAP 35
15 David O’Brien 35
16 TennesseePaul 32
17 Rowsdower 28
18 VaBravesFan 26
19 cricket 24
20 CB 21
21 Frankie 16
22 MFin04 16
23 Dick Dodge 15
24 richbrave 15
25 Venice Jim 14
Trader Jack
October 15th, 2012
8:15 pm
That was a helluva take out at second
jeffrey d
October 15th, 2012
8:21 pm
Andruw worked about 5 more years before he sold his self to the Dodgers and was so bad they paid him milllions just to not show up.
The 6 years after he “worked about 5 more years” with the Braves: .851 OPS and 218 HR. 4 ASG, 6 GG, 4 year of MVP votes. No big deal.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonesan01.shtml
Powder Blue
October 15th, 2012
8:22 pm
Angel Pagan. We could do a lot worse in CF.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 15th, 2012
8:28 pm
“Threw in the towel and quit”…that is pathetic, man. Really pathetic.
BMac could save 10 kids and 5 puppies from drowning, but folks such as yourself would say that if he had eaten 3 fewer hotdogs in his life, he would have been able to save 11 babies and 7 puppies.
Trader Jack
October 15th, 2012
8:31 pm
Hey McFann
Welcome back
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 15th, 2012
8:40 pm
Homer – Is that you, TOBF?
Nope!
About Cody Ross, some may not view him as a starter, and I understand that. I don’t expect him to decline as much as Willingham will over his next 3 years. I’d go up to 9mil over the next 2 years with him. His numbers vs righties aren’t horrible. And he mashes lefties consistently.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 15th, 2012
8:41 pm
Thanks, Trader Jack!
I guess I’m not officially back till I’ve butted heads with keylargo—now that’s been taken care of…
Couch Tater
October 15th, 2012
8:44 pm
Schuerholz letter as a Haiku..
My bonus cut short.
Post season infield fly rule.
Don’t throw beer bottles.
Couch Tater
October 15th, 2012
8:55 pm
Schuerholz letter as a tweet..
@BigHomeboyUpstairs – Thanks for the support!!! Chipper’s gone, but the 2013 team is exciting!!! #WaitUntilNextYear
Couch Tater
October 15th, 2012
9:00 pm
Schuerholz letter sent by the AJC IT Department…
File 404. Not Found.
Couch Tater
October 15th, 2012
9:06 pm
Schuerholz letter sent by the Auburn Athletic Dept…
The Team is young, but we got to the wildcard. Kinda like going to the Meinke Muffler Bowl.
ncgary
October 15th, 2012
9:15 pm
willingham would have been a nice pick up 3 years ago
Couch Tater
October 15th, 2012
9:22 pm
Schuerholtz letter delivered by The Jordan Schafer Courier Service…
“I see a cop! Eat it!”
gy6
October 15th, 2012
9:48 pm
prediction for 2013…Braves will win enough to once again choke away the one game play in. Book it.
fan
October 15th, 2012
9:58 pm
Thanks DOB – McCann – if can’t redo his contract for 3 year term then let him go – Keep either Delgado or Tehran – like Willingham and Victorino – save some future money so can sign Freeman and Heyward when need to – got to have a thumper so mccann may have to go so can pat for one and hopefully righthanded. Don’t even waste effort on bourn.
old man
October 15th, 2012
9:59 pm
Pagan seems like a good, ahead of the curve move. Love that he is a switch hitter. Problem solved. Just sign him.
Willingham seems like a behind the curve move. LF lingers as an enigma for us.
I’ve accepted that Uggla must return to 2B until he dips below .200. I can live with Ross at Catcher. Maybe a youngster will step up.
But LF, nobody agrees on who we should go after. In the old days, it was the easiest spot to fill with a strong bat. But the Braves just have an eternal problem out there. I’m not counting Prado. He’s not really LFer.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 15th, 2012
10:06 pm
willingham would have been a nice pick up 3 years ago
Yep. But not now at 34.
kenhotlanta
October 15th, 2012
10:06 pm
nolie: I use Chrome and my problems stem from Chome’s constant conflicts with Adobe Flash. I don’t understand why they can’t fix that.
However I tend to keep too many tabs open at once and I know that doesn’t help.
Jeff R
October 15th, 2012
10:07 pm
“Yankees need to channel the spirit of ‘96,” reads the headline at MLB.com. This in reference to the Yanks coming back from a two-game deficit to beat the Braves.
Problem is, this isn’t the same Yankee team as ‘96. It’s older, broken down in part, and I don’t think as talented.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 15th, 2012
10:08 pm
I can live with Ross at Catcher.
Easy for folks to say now…but once Ross has a couple “bad” games in a row, you’ll be ready to throw him in the trash, as well…
Jeff R
October 15th, 2012
10:08 pm
Willingham’s a good pick up if his price tag isn’t high.
Peter
October 15th, 2012
10:08 pm
Really does anyone here believe in WREN ??????? The Braves front office ?
How many playoff wins do we have under the Wren tenure ?
Please the guy is a joke…… Nice to see Blanco and Infante playing key roles on very good teams.they must have sucked here in Atlanta for Wren to trade them away.
Uggla 13 plus million next year…… Bourne will be gone Scott Boras will get a boat load of cash for him……
We will not be a playoff team for some time…..our pitching will be fine the offense……3 runs a game won’t win anything !
richbrave
October 15th, 2012
10:08 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
AFL
SS NICK AHMED [.462 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 3B [1].
3B ED SALCEDO [.050 BA] 0-4, 1 E [2, fielding].
SALCEDO is very consistant. He’s played in the field twice in five games and now has two errors. An error a game. I’m not sure he can keep up this torrid pace!
Hits well too. One for the season [20 AB] thru five.
RHRP CORY RASMUS [4.50 ERA] 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R/ER, 0 BB, 2 SO.
Good second outing.
SOUTH OF THE BORDER
No games in any league.
richbrave
October 15th, 2012
10:10 pm
If SALCEDO keeps up this pace in fall ball, he’ll have absolutely no trade value whatsoever.
richbrave
October 15th, 2012
10:16 pm
My bad. Missed yesterday’s game where SALCEDO played third without an error in the field. Yea!
old man
October 15th, 2012
10:17 pm
McFann. I didn’t mean to not take McCann’s option. I think I would. (The team has an option for 2013, right?) But with his injuries, and his erratic numbers, I wonder about him long term. I meant if he was hurt, Ross would suffice. Ideally, McCann is here crushing the ball in 2013. My point is I don’t see much for us to do at that position right now except exercise the option and hope for the best. In 2014, McCann may have gotten over injury and eye problems. Otherwise somebody not named Ross or McCann will be catching.
Overall, my point is that LF is a place no one seems to agree on, and that I can’t figure out either.
Nowhere man
October 15th, 2012
10:18 pm
There shouldn’t even be a discussion on picking up Mac’s option? He is too good to let one bad season doom him. The only reason not to pick up the option would be to sign him to another long term contract.
richbrave
October 15th, 2012
10:18 pm
Peter, peter, pumpkin-eater. Had a wife and couldn’t keep her.
old man
October 15th, 2012
10:19 pm
I would avoid a long term McCann deal right now. Take the option. I agree those are the only reasonable things to consider.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 15th, 2012
10:22 pm
Willingham’s a good pick up if his price tag isn’t high.
You’re right. I was considering Delgado for him again…
I would avoid a long term McCann deal right now.
Which is smart. No need to do that with a guy who hasn’t really hit since August ‘11, and has battled injuries. Hope he rebounds next year, stays healthy, and is willing to forgo the free agent market and take a hometown discount.
old man
October 15th, 2012
10:26 pm
Willingham would be a “buying high” situation for us. I cringe thinking about losing Delgado. If we have 22M in money to spend, wouldn’t that pay the 2013 salaries for Pagan and a decent LFer? Pagan is making 4.85M this year. Could you sign him to 3 years for 30M? And a LFer for the same?
Or did my math only work 5 years ago? Or 10 years ago?
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 15th, 2012
10:30 pm
Willingham would be a “buying high” situation for us. I cringe thinking about losing Delgado
As do I. Unfortunately, there isn’t really anyone in FA to spend the money on….
Jeff R
October 15th, 2012
10:33 pm
If SALCEDO keeps up this pace in fall ball, he’ll have absolutely no trade value whatsoever.
Thus far, the kid’s been a bust in my book.
Jeff R
October 15th, 2012
10:35 pm
I don’t think I’d give up Delgado for Willingham unless there was a package of players moving between the Twins and the Braves. Need more value, in my estimation, then a mid-thirties power hitter who would likely walk after two seasons.
Jeff R
October 15th, 2012
10:37 pm
I’m still liking Nick Ahmed. Wish the Braves would convert him to a second baseman.
old man
October 15th, 2012
10:38 pm
You know, if Uggla and McCann joined Heyward and Freeman in hitting a few dingers next year, we would not really be so desperate for a power hitter in LF. And an ideal free agent would Melky. He’s a complete jackass, but you might get a great deal because of his recent issues.
Maybe I’m just saying this to watch everyone go nuts. How crazy is this idea for LF? I think he hit almost .400 against lefties.
Homer of A-town sports
October 15th, 2012
10:38 pm
Ross has said he does not want to be a full time catcher. Bmac shoulder is a huge question. Braves need him very much. Gattis, Bascon, Bethancourt, La Rosa are still not ready to be on the roster. Time for Bmac to have his surgery. The Braves only have 3 days after the WS to pick up his option. Cody Ross would be a nice addition to the OF. Having him on the team would also relax Uggla and maybe help him have a good season in 13. They were teammates and I read that they are good friends. Don’t hold me to that but I read that if Uggla had his way the Braves would get Cody Ross. A. Pagan seems to be way to much of a drop off compared to Bourn. I have mixed emotions about Bourn. I am not sure why he started to K out so much after the all-star break. If his agent was not Boras I would feel good that we could resign him back but I am sure the Braves have no chance of signing him. Boras and Rizzo are in bed together so I expect Bourn to be with the Gnats next yr. I would love to find a lead off hitter that was like Brett Butler (great contact and a lot of ground balls).
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 15th, 2012
10:43 pm
What if we get Span, Willingham, and a bullpen arm (Jared Burton, Casey Fien)… would that be enough to entice you to trade Delgado?
old man
October 15th, 2012
10:43 pm
Pagan is not that much of a drop off. Really more in fielding. Bourn is one of the top 2 or 3 CFers. Pagan is top 10 or so. Overall, I would say there is a 1 in 3 chance that at the end of 2013 a lot of people will say Pagan was the superior player. Bourn’s first half in 2012 was perhaps his best ever.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 15th, 2012
10:44 pm
BMac will make a comeback next year—don’t y’all worry!…:)
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 15th, 2012
10:45 pm
Don’t hold me to that but I read that if Uggla had his way the Braves would get Cody Ross.
He did try to convince Ross to come here… yes, they are friends.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 15th, 2012
10:46 pm
Oh well—time for bed. Nice to say hi to some of y’all again…
Night, all!
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 15th, 2012
10:46 pm
10:45pm is too early for bed!
Take care, McFann
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
October 15th, 2012
10:48 pm
10:45 is just right for bed!…
Night, TOBF!
Mitchell
October 15th, 2012
11:01 pm
The Cardinals outfield defense with another stellar play.
Boy, they never let anything drop.
old man
October 15th, 2012
11:03 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
I like Pagan better than Span. And I’m not sold on Willingham.
Cody Ross seems more reasonable. Maybe a little platooning with Prado/Francisco. Ross hit homer off lefties last year at about a 30 HR a year pace, batted .300 against them. Three years younger than Willingham. And, seems to be tracking slightly ahead of Willingham’s cumulative WAR number at the same age. Is Ross a decent fielder? His UZR is odd–up, down, up, down, one year to the next. He’s making 3M this year, and he did not have a year like Willingham had. Pay him 7M for 3 years? And keep Delgado?
No takers on Melky?
Homer of A-town sports
October 15th, 2012
11:03 pm
Call me crazy but I really do not want to trade Teheran or Delgado. I am not 100 percent that Beachy will be on his game after the all star break. I hope so. If FA does not work out, I know they will be great trade bait for the Braves to get a big bat. I have not lost hope on Hanson either. He K’s a lot of ppl. I have gave up on JJ and would let him go since he does not have arb. rights. If you are going to trade Teheran or Delgado-It’s a must to take a hard look at signing Greinke. The Braves have no Wil Myers in the making so I guess it is very important to get a big bat. I really hope Cunningham makes a great jump this yr. and can be brought up to help out when the roster expands late in the yr.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 15th, 2012
11:07 pm
I like Cody Ross as well, and don’t really think he needs to platoon. He’s younger than Willingham, with a better track record vs. lefties. His decent enough vs. righties.
I’d prefer Pagan or Victorino to Span, but if the Braves got both him and Willingham in a deal for Delgado, I wouldn’t complain.
No, Melky can suck it.
Homer of A-town sports
October 15th, 2012
11:08 pm
Old Man
I would take a shot on Melky if the talk is true that you can get him cheap.
Venice Jim
October 15th, 2012
11:20 pm
Wow – Peyton!…
old man
October 15th, 2012
11:25 pm
Here are the top UZR and UZR/150 stats for 2012 MLB CFers
Michael Bourn 22.4 22.5
Denard Span 8.5 9.6
Drew Stubbs 6.8 8.5
Carlos Gomez 5.5 8.0
Cam. Maybin 4.4 4.5
Austin Jackson 4.1 4.7
Jon Jay 4.0 5.2
Andres Torres 3.0 4.5
Angel Pagan 0.1 -0.1
So, there is a huge drop off after Bourn. Pagan is still ranked 9th in all MLB, so nothing to sneeze at. Denard’s a better fielder, but I like Pagan’s bat and switch hitting. Pagan is A, Span B:
A .288 .338 .440 .778 29 steals
B .284 .357 .389 .738 17 steals
Span has an 11% K ratio, Pagan 15%. But Span is a left, and we have a ton of those. I really like the SH bat. We will be missing Chipper’s SH bat.
I looked at RF UZR for 2012. The top three fielding RFers in 2012, after which there is a big drop off:
Jason Heyward 22.9 22.1
Josh Reddick 17.7 20.4
Ichiro Suzuki 12.7 16.4
If Jason is that good (and he sure looks good when I seem him play) maybe he is our center fielder for 2013.
old man
October 15th, 2012
11:29 pm
So maybe the ace up Wren’s sleeve is to move JHey to CF, and sign a LFer and a RFer.
Just a thought. In the great scheme of things, it’s not that dumb of an idea.
old man
October 15th, 2012
11:30 pm
Nighty night all.
Venice Jim
October 15th, 2012
11:31 pm
Shout out to my guy nowhere man for the inspiration which barely got me into the top 25!
nolie
October 15th, 2012
11:41 pm
So maybe the ace up Wren’s sleeve is to move JHey to CF, and sign a LFer and a RFer..old ma
they have said no several times. they think Jason can play it for a short term but not regularly, too much stress on his legs because of his size is part of it
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:07 am
25 minutes since the last post…
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:07 am
And we know what that means…
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:08 am
Pat Stadding!
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:11 am
Ooops…
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:11 am
Stad Patting!
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:12 am
Dang…
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:13 am
Stat Padding!
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 16th, 2012
12:17 am
!gniddaP tatS
Y’all take care. Peace.
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:26 am
We’ll will…
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:31 am
Time to close down after a busy day of sharing my firm beliefs in the perfect moves for the Braves next year…
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:31 am
Not that I was doing it here…
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:32 am
Or, in fact, anywhere within the physical plane of the world…
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:33 am
But I read every single post today relative to the subject…
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:35 am
Or, I would have, if that was not a physical possibility for someone who has other interests in life…
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:35 am
Sorry, typo…
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:37 am
Or, I would have, if I was not so busy dialing the Commissioner’s Office over and over per DS1’s request……
Venice Jim
October 16th, 2012
12:38 am
Okay, that bypasses last blog – be back in a few days…
Ward
October 16th, 2012
2:23 am
Hello everyone! Don’t mind talking about LF, or centerfield, or 3rd base. Prado will play either LF, or 3rd base. Hope we get Bourn, but if we lose Bourn, would like a RB for CF, and LF. I would like either Victorino if lost Bourn, or Pagan if lost Bourn? LF I would Like Swisher, Willingham, or Cody Ross. If we had to go in the Minors,and bring some one up? I would go with Parraz LF, or Durango LF. I think he could play LF too. Not sure on anyone else, but will accept if he’s in the budget, and is a RH Bat. We need RH Bats, so as long as Braves pick up 2 that can hit, I’ll be alright.
Ward
October 16th, 2012
2:28 am
If we had to go for a 3rd base player? I would accept – David Wright, Eric Chaves, or Francisco at 3rd base if Braves kept Prado at LF?
Ward
October 16th, 2012
2:32 am
Beltran is on steroids…… He was asked why he as hitting so well the other night? Beltran says,” I’m seeing the ball well, and I’m getting my hits”……Red Flag…… Glad Braves didn’t pick him up.
Ward
October 16th, 2012
2:35 am
Cards should be investigated for their recent success. Hope at least Baseball looks into it.
Ward
October 16th, 2012
2:43 am
All, have a good one! not trying to cause anything. Just don’t buy into the Cards success……Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!” Talk tomorrow.
Jeff R
October 16th, 2012
6:47 am
What if we get Span, Willingham, and a bullpen arm (Jared Burton, Casey Fien)… would that be enough to entice you to trade Delgado?
Braves would have to surrender more than Delgado to make that package happen, I believe.
old man
October 16th, 2012
7:08 am
Guten morgen, Damen und Herren.
old man
October 16th, 2012
7:09 am
Still no decision on the LFer.
Very slow here last night. I’m disappointed in you night owls.
Mitchie-sand
October 16th, 2012
7:30 am
I’m still pissed.