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74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
11:46 am
“Great Plate Discipline” w/ 2 strikes, making the pitcher throw the hitters their pitch, making the pitcher work, making good quality at bat become clutch, not swing’n & flail’n so much like some undesciplined Braves hitters do. McGwire given them the approach not to give in to the pitcher when it counts. Be aggressive early, but IF you get into 2 strikes, protect the plate, bat on the ball anything could happen. Cards have well – disciplined hitter’s(much as I hate it!) but that can be respected for. The Braves seemed to had this from time to time, but then lose the approach & swing at anything in certain games(become undisciplined-that the discipline should’ve been maintained)like they didn’t know what the strike zone was. A yo-yo, on again, off again, no consistency in a approach. The Cards maintained consistency.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
11:49 am
If a crafty pitcher sees uggla swing’n at off speed in the dirt, He’ll set him up w/ that pitch again & make uggla become a sucker.
Brave New World
October 13th, 2012
12:00 pm
Hey Nat fans: Great season, tough way to lose in the playoffs – welcome to playing the Cardinals.
Doc Holliday
October 13th, 2012
12:04 pm
You just have to tip your hat to the cards.
That organization knows what to do to win.
They loose Pujols, Carpenter….. no problem.
They pick up a banged up Beltran and boooom he explodes.
LaRussa gone………..havent miss a him a bit.
Our Bravos go the other way around.
We are stuck with Uggla the same way we were stuck with Lowe. What a big disappointment this guy has become.
I hope Braves get rid of Mc…..IF he doesnt show signs of live before ASG next season.
I said it 2 seasons ago…….LETS PICK UP ANGEL PAGAN……………and lots of people said that it was a dumb move to make…………. I dont see anyone saying that know that DOB makes that suggestion.
I love the pagan Idea, but I like the Willingham a little bit more…………I would keep Johnson to play CF ………… or maybe we can go get both of them and get rid of diaz and hinske….
CF Pagan/Johnson
3B Prado
1B Freeman
LF Willingham
RF Heyward
C Mc
2B Uggla
SS Simmons
Pastornicky+Johnson+Ross+Constanza (I like speed, and Hinske didnt do much this season)+Francisco(I dont like this guy as back up at 3B but, looks like braves intend to keep him around)
Prado Would be the only back up to 1B and to 2B.
Maybe braves can teach Pastornicky to backup 2B.
Can Ross and Willingham backup 1B??? they are righties………….that should be a problem.
chipontheroad
October 13th, 2012
12:08 pm
The Boss on tour with Clinton no not George Clinton
phil
October 13th, 2012
12:10 pm
Goodbye and good riddance, Nats.
Maybe this will wipe the smirk off Harper’s face for a time. Of course, now we’ll hear, ad nauseum, that the Strasburg absence was the reason why this happened. Nevermind that the Nats choked like dogs in Braves-like fashion, up 6-0.
The Cards are just good. In addition to being good, they obviously possess a good bit of “it”, unlike our Braves who couldn’t apparently manage to beat the ‘92 alumni team if forced to play them.
So good for the Cards and good for the Giants. Winners.
ChattTownBrian
October 13th, 2012
12:25 pm
“Maybe this will wipe the smirk off Harper’s face for the first time” phil
Seems like a pretty mature 19 year old kid from everything I’ve seen. 19 and hitting homers and triples in front of sell out crowds in the playoffs. Doesn’t seem arrogant to me at all, and nobody has read a smart ass comment from him so far as a big league player. I ain’t got a problem him.
Robert
October 13th, 2012
12:31 pm
Anyway – enough time and effort spent thinking about any team other than the Braves
Some thoughs on the Braves
Michael Bourn – an outfielder who counts on his legs/speed to make his biggest impact – He draws a reasonable number of walks, and he can create havoc on the basepaths when he manges to get there. Given all that,he has a career adjusted OPS of 90 (where 100 is the mean), and has made it to an OBP of .350 exactly once in his career. He will be 30 years old in 2013, and his agent is Scott Boras. I’d almost rather have Cox back managing the team than to sign this guy to long term $10+ million per year deal. Thanks for your time and effort, but wouldnt even consider trying to keep him
To me the biggest questions to deal with are McCann and Hanson — I find these two to be among the most likeable of the Braves – but I wouldnt keep either – The trends are simply not good
McCann is beat up physically – at a position that’s relentless in that regard – $12 million to hope that he can bounce back to hitting .260 and getting on base at .350 is nonsense. And the idea of paying Hanson 10 times his current salary when his inside numbers have been steadily deteriorating for four years now is also not a good idea in my opinion
George_George
October 13th, 2012
12:32 pm
I don’t like results of playoffs this year. Regular season should mean more. To bad each league could not add a team, each league have four four team divisions. At end of season NO WCs, division winners play 4 of 7 series, winners play 4 of 7 series, then we have WS.
Robert
October 13th, 2012
12:34 pm
Willingham — Is the kind of player that is the big bat on bad teams – and he’s gonna be 34 – no thank you
George_George
October 13th, 2012
12:35 pm
NATS should have borrowed KIMBREL to pitch 9th last night.
Robert
October 13th, 2012
12:36 pm
“Regular season should mean more” – Then go back to at most 2 teams per league qualifying for the playoffs
Nowhere man
October 13th, 2012
12:36 pm
Chipper E. Jones says he didn’t know that the fans wanted him to come back out for a curtain call after the last bat of his career. The one that he jogged down the line.
AJC must love that story about Chipper and his wife separating. They have had a link to it for months.
Ira Marks
October 13th, 2012
12:36 pm
I agree with everything you said, except I would drop McCann. He has personally killed the last two seasons with his anemic bat production, he is slow and just an average fielder. I keep thinking that if the Braves had a Buster Posey, we would be virtually unbeatable. (BTW, lets also say that Derek Lowe and McCann equally contributed to the 2011 collapse, so lets attribute only 50% of collapse in 2011 to McCann.
Ira Marks
October 13th, 2012
12:36 pm
I agree with everything you said, except I would drop McCann. He has personally killed the last two seasons with his anemic bat production, he is slow and just an average fielder. I keep thinking that if the Braves had a Buster Posey, we would be virtually unbeatable. (BTW, lets also say that Derek Lowe and McCann equally contributed to the 2011 collapse, so lets attribute only 50% of collapse in 2011 to McCann.
Nowhere man
October 13th, 2012
12:38 pm
George the Astros are moving to the AL next season so each league will have an equal number of teams.
Nowhere man
October 13th, 2012
12:40 pm
I haven’t heard anything about expansion
George_George
October 13th, 2012
12:41 pm
Robert
October 13th, 2012
12:31 pm
Robert, should we bring back BOBBY as MGR?
Robert
October 13th, 2012
12:42 pm
“You just have to tip your hat to the cards.
That organization knows what to do to win.
They loose Pujols, Carpenter….. no problem.
They pick up a banged up Beltran and boooom he explodes.
LaRussa gone………..havent miss a him a bit.”
Amazing isnt it – How some organizations continue to get it done no matter which seemingly irreplaceable key parts they lose, while others still find ways to fail at crunch time, no matter how much high-credential help they bring in
The important thing to realize is that while luck may have a role in each and any of the individual triumphs or flops, the long-term trends are NOT luck or happenstance or coincidence
Robert
October 13th, 2012
12:46 pm
“Robert, should we bring back BOBBY as MGR?”
The Braves would be better off spending $10 million to have Bobby Cox manage the Philles, Nats, Cardinals, or TYankees than they would spending that much to resign Michael Bourn
Robert
October 13th, 2012
12:47 pm
Here’s a football score you dont see often – OU 6, Texas 2
George_George
October 13th, 2012
12:49 pm
Robert
October 13th, 2012
12:36 pm
I would not mind at all going back to east west divisions in each league, haveing division leaders play. But owners would not go for it.
Brave New World
October 13th, 2012
12:52 pm
When healthy, McCann is one of the best hitting catchers in the game. He is only average defensively. The Braves should pick up McCann’s option for 2013 with Ross as his back up. As far as Bourn is concerned, let him sign somewhere else; we do not need a leadoff hitter who strikes out 150 times a season. Sign Angel Pagan and/or Shane Victorino, I have no problem trading Hanson if we can get reasonable value in return. Greinke and Hamilton should not be pursued.
Ken Stallings
October 13th, 2012
12:53 pm
One has to thank the Nationals for choking worse than the Braves in postseason! The Nats went to the top of the ninth last night with a two-run lead and coughed up four runs and lost the game 9-7! Considering they mishandled Strausburg so he was not available in possteason, the games the Nats lost to the Cards must be seen as one of the greatest “what if” moments in baseball history!
The Nats front office have a LOT of explaining to do to the Nats fans and players! I am sure the acrimony has only started. The Nats had a team with a real chance for a World Series title and voluntarily shut down either their best starting pitcher, or certainly their second best starting pitcher! Bad enough when it is forced by injury putting a pitcher on the DL such as what happened to the Braves last year. But, when the choice is pre-planned and entirely voluntary, it stinks.
This is the first time I can recall where a team front office (particularly the GM) literally threw away his best chance to win a World Series title!
George_George
October 13th, 2012
1:00 pm
Ken Stallings
October 13th, 2012
12:53 pm
I have to AGREE with you,if NATS handled STRASBURG like we did MEDLEN it would have been a different finish for them.
Robert
October 13th, 2012
1:28 pm
Enter your comments here
Robert
October 13th, 2012
1:30 pm
“The Nats front office have a LOT of explaining to do to the Nats fans and players!”
Check out the DC area news sites. Rizzo is standing by his idiotic decision more than ever
Fats G
October 13th, 2012
1:36 pm
Give St Louis credit………………..They have something the rest of the NL does not have. We need to study that organization
Venice Jim
October 13th, 2012
1:43 pm
I wonder if Mack Brown will be fired at half time…
HooRah
October 13th, 2012
1:48 pm
looky there, Robert crawled out from under a rock today
HooRah
October 13th, 2012
1:55 pm
Get real. The front office does not owe the fans anything at all. Their job is to do what they think best to win , now and along the way, which is what they did., not to allow what the fans want to influence their approach.
You seriously think that fans will not come back next season if they play good ball? Of course they will
phil
October 13th, 2012
2:09 pm
Lol!
Robert
October 13th, 2012
2:13 pm
“Their job is to do what they think best to win now and along the way”
When you have a legitimate chance to win the World Series, there is only now, there is no future to consider – That’s what they did NOT do
Look, I’d be THRILLED if the Nats continued to function the same way – that’s one team the Braves would never have to worry about, because we’d know they’d eliminate themselves
The front office owes the fans a reason to be able to keep alive the dream of a World Series title. In the long run, the fans arent gonna be motivated to keep filling the seats if there is NEVER any hope of winning the big prize
Ward
October 13th, 2012
2:14 pm
Hello everyone! I do have an explanation for the Cards success……Why they are winning? Steroids, and there you go……Talk later my friends….. Notre Dame is coming on…. Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Robert
October 13th, 2012
2:16 pm
OU 36 Texas 2 – seeing that you’d think OU was really good — thing is, theyre not
BosnianBaller
October 13th, 2012
2:17 pm
Yeah thats what I always thought the difference is between the Cards and Braves. They might not have the greatest players but guys like Kuzma delscasso freese all these guys put the ball in play and play real good defense most of the time while we spend $13 million on Uggla who cant hit or field.
Ryan (aka slugger)
October 13th, 2012
2:18 pm
Sell farm for Headley, go get Trumbo and trade for Dexter Fowler.
Will cost Teheran, Spruill, and a hand full of other arms, but that should be our play
Robert
October 13th, 2012
2:19 pm
“You seriously think that fans will not come back next season if they play good ball? Of course they will”
Not next year, or the next, or the next – but in the long run, if it becomes clear that the organization isnt ready to risk it all to win it all, the fans will lose interest
90 wins and a nice profit every year will make the team’s owners and investors cream their jeans, but it’s not gonna KEEP Joe Fan on the edge of his seat at the ballpark
reckingball
October 13th, 2012
2:26 pm
I would like to see the Braves try to trade a couple of their TV announcers.
old man
October 13th, 2012
2:27 pm
Lots of good feeling here about Pagan.
LF is always a harder nut for Braves FO to crack, and there is certainly less agreement on this board.
Robert
October 13th, 2012
2:28 pm
-Leading 36-2 with the ball on their own 20, third and long, and they throw the ball — Texas has no chance, why dont we give them one
Bobby Cox must be calling the plays for Bob Stoops
Playoffs!!!
October 13th, 2012
2:28 pm
Cardinals don’t have the pitching to go much farther in the playoffs. Don’t see them getting past either the Giants or Yankees..
Wainwright hasn’t pitched well in the post-season, Carpenter is back (but he still a little bit of question mark), Lohse is solid but Lance Lynn is shaky. Garcia is hurt.
And their 7th and 8th inning guys are shaky.
The balloon is about to burst, and will start looking like the 2nd Wild Card team
old man
October 13th, 2012
2:29 pm
A LFer allows us to put Prado at 3B, and if Francisco improves, it allows us to bench Uggla if he does not perform. We may need that option.
Many here say Prado can’t play 2B. These are the same people who said he couldn’t play SS at all. He’s a natural at 2B.
But the LFer is the key to this team next year.
rainman34
October 13th, 2012
2:37 pm
Glad to see Gattis playing in the winter league. This guy is what we need a big right hand hitter that can rake. Would love to here how well or just how bad he was in left.
Dum-Bass
October 13th, 2012
2:57 pm
Hoorah’s convoluted thought process continues to amaze one and all.
UKUGA
October 13th, 2012
3:04 pm
I knew Freese would not make the last out. Fitting that he scored the GW run. That guy defines clutch.
SNEAKY PETE
October 13th, 2012
3:05 pm
Cardinals don’t have the pitching to go much farther in the playoffs. @Playoffs
you might be right about that.
UKUGA
October 13th, 2012
3:07 pm
Cardinals will lose the benefit of 18 games with the hapless Astros next season. Will see see if MLB has to add another WC team to help them in.
SNEAKY PETE
October 13th, 2012
3:11 pm
Hoorah’s convoluted thought process continues to amaze one and all. @Nowhere Man
Nothing convoluted about it at all, from what I see.. The fans do not run the club.
Any number of GMs have said that they do not react to what the fans want.
Think of all the diverse opinions among the fans here, how stupid many of them are and how impossible it would be to please everybody.
Did they make the right choice?I think there must have been a way to get him into the post season and still control his numbers.
Like Robert said, over the years if they make mistakes the fans will stop coming, and changes will be in order.
Astral
October 13th, 2012
3:18 pm
That sounds kin of sour grapes-ish UK
HooRah
October 13th, 2012
3:19 pm
What continues to amaze me Nowhere is the fact that you bring nothing to this blog except the desire to irritate other posters. Sad little life
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
3:20 pm
Mabey schuerholz will write an apology letter to the nats fan base for them lose’n to the Cardinals & apologize for how unproffesional the braves fans have acted in response to the Cardinals moving on to the next round. “Stating” that this does not reflect how the Braves organization conducts nor approves of anything that is said & done by the Blogs typed in or Tweetered on the DOB BLOG that does not represent the character & Proffessionalism of The Atlanta Braves Organization & The INTEGRITY of MLB. We WholeHeartedly of the Atlanta Braves Organization do Not Entirely approve of the opinions & Remarks made by the fans on this Blog. Thank You Sincerely, JS – President
Venice Jim
October 13th, 2012
3:22 pm
Thomas Boswell @ThomasBoswellWP
Nats also lost G7 of ‘25 Series, 9-7. Blew 4-0 lead, led in 8th. What bum pitched? Walter Johnson (20-7)=all 9 runs.
SNEAKY PETE
October 13th, 2012
3:23 pm
I doubt we see any letters from John S this winter.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
3:25 pm
HOF Jerry Rice said he’d love to catch a ball from Matt Ryan today if he had to choose who’d he love to play w/ if able or young again.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
3:29 pm
I think He’s already written one to the Cardinal organization & to their fans apologizing for atlanta fans unproffesional misbehavior that does not represent the character & integrity of the Atlanta Braves & MLB. Very Thoughtful, Hmmmmm.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
3:33 pm
@rainman34; I’m pull’n for Gattis, have been for a while, I’ve said before, could be a Diamond in the rough, will see.
Ward
October 13th, 2012
3:36 pm
I don’t think Braves should apologize for anything. They got hosed by the call, and Major League Baseball turned their backs on the Fans, and Braves. I think in my view the Fans had every right to be upset, and I applaud them for doing it. No aplogie to the Cards….. I’m good, and would’ve handled it differently, but I deffend the Fans of Atlanta, and what they have been through. In other words Cards can bit me…… Time to watch Notre Dame Football….. Peace, and later……”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
3:46 pm
Wonder if any of the Braves staff, or Brass ever considered how the Cardinals do it, study up on how proffesional a team that goes after it, never say fail, & get the guys who have Heart not waver’n but win inthe Heat of the momment. Couldn’t the Braves Brass consider gett’n any ideas from those who win when it really counts? Know how to take care of business when the opposition throws the ball away & getting the calls there way, & climbing a hill 6 runs down, taking the lead & winning the last series games, not giving in, staying consistent in discipline. Key word “Consistent”.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
3:47 pm
I think their line-up are full of “Prado” mentality, win at all cost, willing to do what it takes. Wow.
Robert
October 13th, 2012
3:50 pm
“I’m good, and would’ve handled it differently, but I deffend the Fans of Atlanta, and what they have been through.”
What they have been through is allowing an idiot (Cox) to manage the team, and allowing a selfish prima donna (Chipper) to be the focus of the team, while neglecting things like fundamentals and desire.
Throwing garbage at the umpires, who are acting in good faith and doing the best they can making split second judgement calls, is NOT a proper answer
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
3:56 pm
@ Ward; I agree, It was a Hosed Job, & worse call in MLB history, but the brass wants to maintain their sense of quote, unquote shinning up w/ honcho’s of mlb, w/ this isn’t us behavior, they disapprove of such.
Webster
October 13th, 2012
3:59 pm
Would anyone trade EOF for Trumbo?
Robert
October 13th, 2012
4:00 pm
The one silver lining to yet another wasted season is that after two decades, the players FINALLY displayed some accountability for the team’s failure. Finally the players werent talking about bad luck or bad umpires, but about their mistakes.
Methinks the fan base might be another decade or two behind in getting to the same place
Robert
October 13th, 2012
4:02 pm
“worse call in MLB history”
A judgement call that occured after the Braves had already clowned themselves to the tune of 5 unearned runs.
To you that’s the worst call in MLB history?
Please
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 13th, 2012
4:05 pm
Dayton from Nebraska @BravesAmerica
A-Rod OPS since 2007- 1.067, .965, .933, .847, .823, .783. Five more years under contract. #yikes
What a horrible deal for NYY. Not that I mind.
Webster
October 13th, 2012
4:05 pm
one of the worst calls in WS history was in the ‘85 WS where Jorge Orta was called safe at first on a baground ball to Jack Clark who flipped to Todd Worrell covering. Obviously out. Opened up the series for the Royals to win.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
4:06 pm
Just be’in fecicious or whatever how the word is spelled. Don’t take it literally.
kenhotlanta
October 13th, 2012
4:13 pm
VJ: Kim Simmonds is the leader and founder of Savoy Brown (since 1967) and he still tours constantly all over the world. He tweeted this morning that the band is driving to California today for a show tonight and he can’t wait to stop and eat at In-N-Out Burger. He said it’s his favorite fast food restaurant in the world and
I thought that was pretty neat.
I saw them about 5 years ago at a small club in Decatur and they were great. He was standing at the door greeting all the fans as they entered the building and they stayed after the show and talked and signed autographs until everyone left. Amazing in this day and time.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
4:13 pm
O’ well, again, I stand corrected one of the worst, & yes the clowns did throw away the game, but just my opinion, it did take away mommentum at that momment that might’ve changed the complexity of the game, who knows, & I’m not here try’n to debate, you’d probably kill me in it, I’m not good in debates, it’s just ones opinion, & heard from so many others, here, the radio, etc…
Robert
October 13th, 2012
4:16 pm
You know, I have heard the arguements for and against that infield fly call. It was a judgement call, made in good faith. That’s enough for me to accept it as the correct call
The really important issue is that anyone who is looking at that call as the reason the Braves lost is barking up the wrong tree.
My question is this – On the day before the game, and on the morning of the game, was Chipper Jones taking ground balls, or was he riding around spending the day with his parents and his kids? THAT is where the problem is (and it’s not just Chipper, but he is the poster boy for the problem, being as how he was the leader (setting a bad example) and how his mental error was the costliest.
Comfort and self-aggrandizement instead of sweat and elbow grease.
If Chipper had been taking infield practice all those times he was “holding court” with the press over the final month and a half, we might still be in this thing
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
4:18 pm
Hey Robert, you are so right about the players taking accountability, & lambash me if you have to, the Braves shouldn’t been in the mess they screwed themselves into.
Robert
October 13th, 2012
4:21 pm
“it did take away mommentum at that momment that might’ve changed the complexity of the game”
A pop-up to the shortstop with runners on base will do that
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
4:23 pm
& to that on point on chipper, definitly, should’ve been gett’n mentally focused for the game working to fine toon instead of the calvicade of circus not during post season.
Robert
October 13th, 2012
4:26 pm
“Hey Robert, you are so right about the players taking accountability”
It was small consolation right then and there, but it would be a HUGE positive change in the clubhouse culture if it continues and establishes itself as the norm.
Before it was always either “we got unlucky” or “we got screwed”. That kind of thinking poisons the entire clubhouse and indeed the entire organization. Helpless victims of evil conspiracies or cruel fate. It is part of Bobby Cox’s donkey legacy
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
4:27 pm
A pop up to the shortstop that was 225 ft beyond the infield, way out in mid-range leftfield, Line-judge outfield umpire overruled infield umpires call, that he didn’t make. would’ve been error on the cards probably.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
4:31 pm
I two am one who was ready for Bobby to go, man i wished we’d made a move for Terry Francona, if they’d waited a little longer before hirin’ fredi.
Robert
October 13th, 2012
4:33 pm
In two games on August 16 and 17, Chipper hit 3 home runs, one of them a walk-off. That left him hitting in the mid .310’s, which was on the NL leader board at the time. It started nationwide discussion of what a fine season he was having, and in Atlanta there was some talk of Chipper as NL MVP.
And you know what? That wasnt totally unreasonable at the time
To me, the impressive thing of all this was how quietly Chipper had been having his great year. Except for one incident where he couldnt resist showing off the big hematoma that landed him on the DL in May or thereabouts, we had had the privelege of watching Chipper’s bat without having to listen to him run his mouth. There was no Chipper thinks this, or Chipper wants that ….
That all changed after August 17. Chipper got a write-up in USA Today. Chipper held court with the reporters. Chipper told us how stupid the one game wild-card was. Chipper told how great it felt to be the guy everyone was cheering. Chipper was gracious enough to let us watch as he accepted a surfboard or some sausages or whatever else goofy retirement gifts teams gave him
Meanwhile, as Chipper became more visible in the press and over the airwaves, he disappeared on the field. After August 17, he hit around .210, with 1 home run and less thasn 10 rbi
And then came the playoffs, when Chipper’s body might have been on the field, but his mind and heart stayed home
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
4:34 pm
Yeah, the kind of excuses about the turn about of the games, or no harm done comments really got old, & fredi’s (?) I ain’t gotta clue.
Robert
October 13th, 2012
4:35 pm
“A pop up to the shortstop that was 225 ft beyond the infield”
Arguing that play is missing the point
Robert
October 13th, 2012
4:36 pm
225 feet beyon the infield mighta been a four-bagger
Astral
October 13th, 2012
4:38 pm
I think it was totally Bush League. Some players career could have been ended.
We are not is some backward nation watching soccer
Robert
October 13th, 2012
4:40 pm
Astral, are you talking about the fans reaction to the infield fly call or about the Braves’ mental preparedness for the wild card game?
Steve from OH
October 13th, 2012
4:40 pm
Arguing that play is missing the point
I agree. The Braves made too many mistakes to be able to deserve to win that game. The thing I have a problem with is StL being able to play for a playoff spot to begin with. Really waters down the regular season.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
4:40 pm
Well mabey that’s my opinion, Buster Onley’s, Dennis Eckersely’s, Billy ripken, have stated the same. Hey what can I do? I’m not arguing, just disagreeing on that particular call, & like you, I’ll live with it. Just my opinion.
Astral
October 13th, 2012
4:43 pm
Chipper’s body might have been on the field, but his mind and heart stayed home Robert
Bull crap. Every player who ever played has had days like that, If you don’t know that then you know nothing about baseball and should quit pretending that you do . As if your obsessive/compulsive Bobby Cox posts hadn’t already proved it.
Anybody who is willing to pay for the privilege of ripping someone in public is one sick puppy.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
4:45 pm
I’d say chipper’s was feelin’ the urge to bask in the deer stand.
Astral
October 13th, 2012
4:46 pm
How could anybody not understand what I was referring to with potential career ending and backward soccer audiences? How could that possibly apply to Braves mental preparedness to anybody with any degree of reading comprehension?
UKUGA
October 13th, 2012
4:48 pm
Since the call has been brought back up. Bad call, yes. Cost us the game? No. Hurt our chances? Absolutely.
Again, there is no rule that states that a team making three errors is not allowed to win a game.
There is a rule governing the IFF, and the umpire, IMO, misapplied it severely.
As far as MLB goes . . . I think it will be interesting to see if the organization/city gets rewarded somehow. Perhaps the announcement of an ALL-Star game in the near future?
The NBA is extremely transparent in this area. After the Chris Paul/Pau Gasol trade was nixed last winter, the NBA awarded the city of Houston another all-star game (last one was just a few years ago – 2006 maybe?).
There could be something in store for Atlanta. Everyone knows the Braves were jobbed by that call.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
4:49 pm
Let’s not get angry at each other, now, now.
UKUGA
October 13th, 2012
4:50 pm
Chipper was worn down and played more than he should have down the stretch.
It started with the Braves needing to win a few, then got enhanced by the Nats choking enough to give the Braves hope.
When was the last season that Chipper finished strong? It’s been awhile. He was fading down the stretch, as expected.
74bravesjersey
October 13th, 2012
4:52 pm
UKUGA, I won’t argue that assessment.
SNEAKY PETE
October 13th, 2012
5:06 pm
I agree with that about Chipper UK, plus wanting to play the last homestand for all the fans that came to see him off. No surprise that he got exhausted
Ward
October 13th, 2012
5:08 pm
Here’s my final take on this. Robert should just chill…… I will deffend the Fans, and will still do. You have to be there at the moment, and I’m sure it was tense, but I can’t blame them, and I feel they had every right to be upset, and act in that moment. Bad call by the umpire, and that is that. All, have a good one, and talk tomorrow… Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
ncgary
October 13th, 2012
5:13 pm
i enjoyed the season
would have liked to see it continue
but alas i dont always get what i want
but i always get what i need
lol
SNEAKY PETE
October 13th, 2012
5:26 pm
I enjoyed the season too Gary, sorry it stopped so soon but it was a lot of fun with 94 wins. Some people don’t seem to be able to enjoy the good, in baseball and life. Bless ya.
Robert
October 13th, 2012
5:30 pm
“Bull crap. Every player who ever played has had days like that”
Chipper admitted that his was at heart a mental mistake
And then he went on and told us how satisified he was that he had “brought it” every day. – Or at oeast in the 110 games he’d feel like playing in any given year
Everyone has off days physically.
Champions dont take mental vacations
SNEAKY PETE
October 13th, 2012
5:33 pm
it probably was at least partly mental, the guy had to be swamped with all kinds of emotions.
Players make mental mistakes too though as well as physical ones. Nobody is perfect, mentally or physically
SNEAKY PETE
October 13th, 2012
5:35 pm
Champions dont take mental vacations Robert
sorry I’m not buying that in the least. They make fewer ones but they make them too.
SNEAKY PETE
October 13th, 2012
5:38 pm
I have closely watched Regional and National level players in billiards for 15 years or more, and even the greatest ones have bad days mentally, just not as often as others. I think anybody who claims that has never been involved in high stakes competition for any length of time if at all..