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Efrim
October 12th, 2012
9:03 pm
3-0 Nationals. It would be something if they even get to the World Series after shutting Strasburg down. That’s a big “f u” to the rest of the National League. We can still get to the WS without our Ace.
And if they do what I think they will and lock up Laroche and trade Morse – that would put them in great position to go get Michael Bourn for CF. That’d be a balanced lineup…..
CF Bourn
LF Werth
RF Harper
3B Zimmerman
1B LaRoche
SS Desmond
2B Espinosa
C Ramos/Suzuki
Good lineup and a great defensive unit. With that 1-12 in the pitching staff? Stacked….
Braveheart
October 12th, 2012
9:09 pm
I like the way they’ve televised the first round of the playoffs this year. Has a March Madness feel to it with games all day. TBS still needs to greatly improve the quality of the announcers though.
rainman34
October 12th, 2012
9:22 pm
Im still on the go young train after talking to some royals fans it looks like myers is untouchable which makes sense but will need to make some kind of move as they have a log jam in the outfield. I still think olt needs to be our main target of the off season. Leave prado in left for now but dont give him 10 mill a year like the great dob wants. I love prado more than anyone but that is to much cash for someone we cant put at his best spot. It will be hard to find that top notch leadoff great d center fielder. I like fowler, Davis, Rivera,Crisp. Would love to get billy Hamilton from the reds and put him in center lol but im sure the reds are not letting him go. Stubbs would not be a bad fit but not as a leadoff hitter as he makes uggla look like a contact hitter. We could go power in center with stubbs, young, Hunter or bj upton and look for a leadoff hitter in left. This is already one of the best off seasons in my lifetime because if we make no moves what so ever we would still be a very good team not a playoff team but very good.
rainman34
October 12th, 2012
9:26 pm
Hudson one year at 9 mill or peavy 3 years at 12 per? He has always wanted to be a brave as he is from bama. He is one of my favorite players as is hudson i just think he brings a little more to the table now as he is a power strike out pitcher.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 12th, 2012
9:29 pm
If the Nats advance, every team left in the playoffs will have had an ace at the front of their rotation.
Giants- Cain
Nats- Strasburg (or Gio)
Yankees- Sabathia
Tigers- Verlander
The teams that got knocked out-
Braves- Medlen
Orioles- ??? Miguel Gonzales? Chen? Hammel?
Cardinals- Lohse (not really an ace)
A’s- McCarthy (mid #2)
Reds- Cueto (yea, he’s an ace)
Rangers- Darvish (1st year)
Half Empty
October 12th, 2012
9:30 pm
I have a hard time believing that they are going to acquire any starting pitching this winter, unless it involves a mega-trade where we move a pitcher too.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 12th, 2012
9:30 pm
I love prado more than anyone but that is to much cash for someone we cant put at his best spot
He’s a very good left fielder.
Bama Braves
October 12th, 2012
9:34 pm
Marteen Needs To Stay Put At Third……
Half Empty
October 12th, 2012
9:35 pm
he is a great left fielder, probably his best position defensively. and if he hits around 800 , well it put him 6th this season so that is acceptable with the defense he plays
kenhotlanta
October 12th, 2012
9:41 pm
I agree with Braveheart…the MLB Network has gone way past TBS in broadcasting games and providing analysis.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 12th, 2012
9:41 pm
Cards getting spanked… 6-0 Nats. Some team didn’t play to win tonight. A certain catcher really will have a happy flight.
Dum-Bass
October 12th, 2012
9:43 pm
Matheny has been taking lessons from Fredi Gonzalez on his pitching decisions. Left Wainwright in there so long now they will never come back. 6-0 now, guess he had no other pitchers. That’s a “Fredi Move” like he did with Hudson a couple times this year. These younger managers have a bad habit of doing that. Somebody like Davey Johnson would never do that.
Dum-Bass
October 12th, 2012
9:46 pm
ESPiNosa may have a job with a certain network when his playing days are over.
Brave New World
October 12th, 2012
9:49 pm
This is to Adam Wainwright: We Braves fans can’t understand why your lame butt Cardinals celebrated after winning the Wild Card play off game. Nice pitching tonight in a must win game, big mouth (and Brave cast off). GO NATS!
Efrim
October 12th, 2012
9:56 pm
Tim Lincecum
Adam Wainwright
Josh Johnson
Matt Garza
Phil Hughes
All free agents after 2013.
Braveheart
October 12th, 2012
10:08 pm
Hudson one year at 9 mill or peavy 3 years at 12 per? He has always wanted to be a brave as he is from bama.
Peavy made it clear 4 years ago that he didn’t want to be a Brave. He did the Braves a favor by rejecting them. One of the best trades the Braves never made.
Sopheee
October 12th, 2012
10:08 pm
Chipper’s a tweetin’ away tonight.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 12th, 2012
10:11 pm
Are any of those pitchers really attractive to ya? It’s no Greinke, Haren, McCarthy option, that’s for sure.
Efrim
October 12th, 2012
10:14 pm
I’ve never seen so many want options to be declined(mind you, within three days after the World Series) so it can create holes, uncertainty and make Frank Wren have to potentially use additional assets to fill those holes, or go through free agency – which doesn’t always mean you get the player you want.
McCann, Hudson and Maholm are coming back for 2013, imo. And so is Uggla….for good measure.
Fredo
October 12th, 2012
10:18 pm
Gio trying to pitch the Cards back into the ballgame
rainman34
October 12th, 2012
10:22 pm
Good point Braveheart had forgotten about that in his defense we sucked then but you are right. As far as prado goes i was talking about all around his best spot is second and there is no question about that. Remember last year we watched how him being off a little makes him worthless. A power hitter will at least run into one now and then ie uggla with 19 bombs. Prado to be worth playing has to hit 310 because he does not walk hit for much power or have top end speed although he did have a nice year in steals this year.
Efrim
October 12th, 2012
10:22 pm
Cardinals are 5-0 in their last 5 elimination games.
Hillbilly
October 12th, 2012
10:23 pm
Gio has gone Oliver Perez on us now. Geebus.
Dum-Bass
October 12th, 2012
10:25 pm
It’s a shame certain ones kept the Braves from being in this game rather than St. Louis. They would have bombed Gonzalez like they did during the regular season. Braves should have been playing for the division title not the wildcard, but too many people seemed to be OK with that. You settle for lesser, that’s what you usually end up with. Don’t expect any better next year, could be even worse.
rainman34
October 12th, 2012
10:27 pm
Its funny everyone wants the 220 hitting uggla gone and love the 220 hitting mac back. If we can restructure his contract then yes but not 13 for one year. Maholm will be picked up but as trade bait imo.
Efrim
October 12th, 2012
10:31 pm
If we can restructure his contract then yes but not 13 for one year.
“Hey Brian, ya know that 12 million you thought you were getting? Well, we’d like you to restructure for 6 million. What’s your take on that?………..”
Yup. I think it will go over real smooth.
Efrim
October 12th, 2012
10:33 pm
Rosenthal, Kelly, Lynn, Miller……
Behind Wainwright, Carp, Garcia, Lohse, Westbrook.
Future is bright in Saint Louis.
Half Empty
October 12th, 2012
10:34 pm
As far as prado goes i was talking about all around his best spot is second and there is no question about that..rainman
his worst spot is second, he is better in left and third both. Not even close
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 12th, 2012
10:38 pm
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
Trevor Rosenthal just hit 100 mph 7 times in that inning. Aroldis who?
Hope he doesn’t get the Tommy Hanson disease…
phil
October 12th, 2012
10:39 pm
So down go the Os…..
That’ll thrill MLB as it can get its ratings.
rainman34
October 12th, 2012
10:40 pm
so his numbers compare better against other left fielders and third basemen. You are right about one thing it is not even close.
Half Empty
October 12th, 2012
10:43 pm
talking about his defense
Half Empty
October 12th, 2012
10:44 pm
he would have been third in NL third basemen offensively
phil
October 12th, 2012
10:45 pm
I’m as irritated now by davey johnson as i was in the 80s…..
SNEAKY PETE
October 12th, 2012
10:51 pm
I thought you were always irritated?
phil
October 12th, 2012
10:53 pm
Not me, pete….
Go eat a peach.
rainman34
October 12th, 2012
10:54 pm
Hanley, zimmerman, wright, A Ramirez, Freese, and Headly all better this year Alvarez was close and when healthy Sandeval is better.
SNEAKY PETE
October 12th, 2012
10:54 pm
awesome album
SNEAKY PETE
October 12th, 2012
10:59 pm
from what I can see, the players with full seasons who hit higher OPS were Ramirez, Wright, Headley and Zimmerman,
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/seasontype/2/position/3b/league/nl/sort/OPS/qualified/false
phil
October 12th, 2012
11:00 pm
That does not look a thing like the Derek Lilliquist I remember….
What happened?
SNEAKY PETE
October 12th, 2012
11:02 pm
Lilliquist was a chubby/chunky guy as I recall, you would have hated him
phil
October 12th, 2012
11:11 pm
Uh Pete? I do remember him well, which is why i said what i said. UGA guy, Brave for a time. Loved the guy.
You doofs that actually think i hate fat people are something else.
Braveheart
October 12th, 2012
11:12 pm
Its funny everyone wants the 220 hitting uggla gone and love the 220 hitting mac back.
I know I feel that way but acknowledge that I am afflicted with the homegrown attachment that makes me irrational. Don’t have that same loyalty with Uggla even though I’ve come to like him as a good dude who plays hard, acts like a man, doesn’t whine, make excuses, blame others and act like a little beeeoch. But I still get disgusted with him every time he comes up to bat or every time I read his stats.
rainman34
October 12th, 2012
11:12 pm
Freese did as well
rainman34
October 12th, 2012
11:15 pm
For me its more that uggla tries to pull every ball into the big coke bottle in left. When he goes up the middle and to right is when he is at his best.
SNEAKY PETE
October 12th, 2012
11:18 pm
you certainly give that impression frequently phil
and since I had no idea what you were referencing currently I have no idea what you meant
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 12th, 2012
11:19 pm
For me its more that uggla tries to pull every ball into the big coke bottle in left. When he goes up the middle and to right is when he is at his best
In 2012, Uggla had a .430 avg. when he pulls the ball, .290 when he hits up the middle, and .137 when he goes to right. His career stats follow this trend.
Paul Wall
October 12th, 2012
11:20 pm
DOB or anyone else, what do you think happened to Julio Teheran velocity?
SNEAKY PETE
October 12th, 2012
11:22 pm
you are right, I misread Freese as 301 somehow instead of 501
phil
October 12th, 2012
11:23 pm
Pete, i’m usually full of it.
To be so damn smart, some still can’t get that through apparently very thick skulls.
I prefer athletes be in shape and not fat slobs, but that doesn’t automatically mean I hate them.
SNEAKY PETE
October 12th, 2012
11:25 pm
Freese seems to be coming along nicely for them
rainman34
October 12th, 2012
11:25 pm
As far as the restructure of macs deal it would be for more years just not as high per year total.
SNEAKY PETE
October 12th, 2012
11:27 pm
Is Derek now skinny or big as a house?
rainman34
October 12th, 2012
11:28 pm
Thats because he tries to pull everything so the balls he hit to left were missed balls not balls that were hit for purpose.
Paul Wall
October 12th, 2012
11:29 pm
What happened to Teheran’s velocity?
UKUGA
October 12th, 2012
11:38 pm
My grandfather was a big Cardinals fan. My dad was a big Yankees fan. In 1996, I sat and watched Game 7 of the LCS with my grandfather and rubbed it in.
I then avoided my dad for about a week after the WS ended.
My dad did not live to see another WS. My grandfather, as most grandfathers do, died a handful of years later.
As much pain as the Cards and Yankees have caused the Braves since 1996, I cannot hate these teams. I admire them out of respect for my father and grandfather.
That said, I have had enough of the Cardinals for a while. We helped them win the division in 2006, setting them up for a WS championship. Then, we went el foldo last year, letting them grab the WC and lo and behold, win another championship.
And of course, this year. And, it’s not just the loss, it’s the whole sordid Holbrook affair.
I’ve had enough of St. Louis for awhile.
I’ve liked the Tigers since the 1984 WS. The first WS I ever watched. Still remember Gibson’s game 5 homer (an afternoon WS game – there has only been once since – Game 5 of the 1987 WS IIRC), watching with my dad.
Go Tigers. Go Nats.
rainman34
October 12th, 2012
11:40 pm
On Teheran’s velocity he is working on some mechanical issues so that could be what happened. Same i think with tommy he tried to change so much in the offseason with his delivery i think it messed him up.
Fredo
October 12th, 2012
11:44 pm
The Nats 2 wins have been by a combined 2 runs, the Cards 2 wins by a combined 16 runs …. the Nats had to know they weren’t going to win this game easily
Lou
October 12th, 2012
11:45 pm
I see EVERYONE is still into spending other people’s money. This game is moving to the bottom of the 8th at 11:45 PM, IF the Nats win will they be for real or will it take another 167 games? Maybe the Tigers would trade Infante for You Know Who, Nah!!!
SNEAKY PETE
October 12th, 2012
11:51 pm
of course we are, what is more fun than spending money vicariously ?
uga-brave
October 12th, 2012
11:56 pm
efrrim,
you rate pospect A or Prospect B without other variables . tehearn or maybe delgado.
d
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 12th, 2012
11:59 pm
Drew Storen will try to get through the heart of the Cards order…
uga-brave
October 13th, 2012
12:01 am
efrim,
before i was rudely sidetracked, the minor leagues are littered with caribbean pitchers that do not pan out.
hard to say how some will adjust in the states.
uga-brave
October 13th, 2012
12:07 am
ukuga, my entire family on pretty much both sides are Yankee fans.
my father left mount vernon and went to Northwestern. then the south.
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 13th, 2012
12:13 am
The gNats could really use Kimbrel right now…
Fredo
October 13th, 2012
12:15 am
oh boy Nats
uga-brave
October 13th, 2012
12:15 am
molina and posey at the top of their games.
NO MORE FREDI
October 13th, 2012
12:16 am
Notice how cardinals manager always kept his cool tonight? Fredi shows his “what am I gonna do” face which makes your players feel like you have no trust in them.
Sopheee
October 13th, 2012
12:17 am
Holy moly, the Nats blew this one big time.
Fredo
October 13th, 2012
12:18 am
well, you had a good season Nats and you only had 1 more out to get but those Cards … man, ask the Braves, they make your team look really bad
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 13th, 2012
12:18 am
Have mercy…. Storen allowed 4, all with 2 outs. 9-7 Cards.
NO MORE FREDI
October 13th, 2012
12:18 am
PLEASE GET US A REAL MANAGER!! Not some guy that deep down wants to be one of the guys because he never played pro ball. Very impressed with the Cardinals tonight.
JC Brave
October 13th, 2012
12:18 am
Drew Storen is such a great pitcher…
Carl Farvman
October 13th, 2012
12:19 am
Ww, can’t believe the Cards do this…………….
uga-brave
October 13th, 2012
12:19 am
deep offensive lineup the cards have. yeah for 12 million we could of had beltran.
uga-brave
October 13th, 2012
12:22 am
am I the only one that rewinds their DVR and forfgets they are behind?
unreal.
Carl Farvman
October 13th, 2012
12:23 am
“Notice how cardinals manager always kept his cool tonight?”
Good point. Seems like a natural..with absolutely know prior managing experience. Since his retirement he’s been watching his son play ice hockey and baseball out of the St Louis market. Weird, but seems to be a big hit in St Louis.
Now, the Cards have to get a pitcher to get 3 guys out.
Paul Wall
October 13th, 2012
12:25 am
How do you know rainman?
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 13th, 2012
12:25 am
That’s a bigger choke than the Braves if the score holds. Had 2 outs in the 9th, up by 2, and allow 4 to score.
chipontheroad
October 13th, 2012
12:26 am
Harper will be outplayed by the J Hey next year
JC Brave
October 13th, 2012
12:27 am
So disgusting watching the stupid Cardinals winning like this…
Fredo
October 13th, 2012
12:29 am
Dear Cardinals,
You’re Welcome ….. again
Signed,
Atlanta Braves
Sopheee
October 13th, 2012
12:29 am
Wow. 9 lives, I swear.
chipontheroad
October 13th, 2012
12:32 am
Mcguire looked pumped up lol
TheOnlyBravesFan
October 13th, 2012
12:32 am
Putting it down right now, the Cards win the World Series. in 2010, we let the Giants beat us, they win. Last year, we let the Cards get the WC, they won. It’ll continue this year, unfortunately.
Go Giants and Tigers!
No Flag Since Lemke
October 13th, 2012
12:34 am
Just a matter of a bunch of guys with little or no post season experience having their collars tighten. It sets up an interesting series between the Giants and Cards
kirkinga
October 13th, 2012
12:34 am
The Dream Season ends for the Nats! Braves fans understand what Nat fans are feeling right now.
chipontheroad
October 13th, 2012
12:38 am
Go Falcons
Fredo
October 13th, 2012
12:39 am
“Braves fans understand what Nat fans are feeling right now”
unfortunately for the Nats fans they’re only just starting Grief Stage 1, Braves fans should be in Stage 5 and beyond
nolie
October 13th, 2012
12:39 am
Go Cards!!!
Capt.Mudd
October 13th, 2012
12:41 am
Ureal comeback for The Cards–congrats St. Louis, you earned it—the season has concluded for D.C.————————–Time to shut ‘em down; Nationals have a nice winter.
Yunel's Frosted Tips
October 13th, 2012
12:41 am
You can hate on the Cardinals all you want………….but they got something this organization just don’t have………the way they play the game and carry themselves………a confidence I don’t see in the dugout or on the field in the ATL…
chipontheroad
October 13th, 2012
12:41 am
That puts a crimp in few natitudes I’ll bet
JC Brave
October 13th, 2012
12:41 am
Fredo
Is there a “Grief Stage: 17th Year”? Because that’s where we are.
Sopheee
October 13th, 2012
12:42 am
I’m running out of teams to cheer for in this thing.
Yunel's Frosted Tips
October 13th, 2012
12:43 am
Give me Detroit and the Giants in the fall classic……..no Yankees please…..
Capt.Mudd
October 13th, 2012
12:43 am
Hey Noliee….Should we send a copy of this game to Fredi? I only wish our guys [collectively] had the plate discipline and mental drive shown by St. Louis this evening!
Dum-Bass
October 13th, 2012
12:44 am
This is kind of funny in a way. Even though I wanted to see the Gnats win it to keep the Cards out of it again, I like what is happening. This could turn out making Bud Selig look rather foolish. If the Cards beat SF, and they just might do it, that means the team with the worst record of all the playoff teams in the NL will be in the WS. SL. the 2nd wildcard team, was 88-75 (.543) this year and are where they are due to the silly “infield fly rule” partly. The Braves played poor defense but may have come back except for that. Here’s hoping a similar play pops up somewhere along the line in the NL or AL playoffs, or perhaps the WS. Would like to see how it will be called if it’s the Yankees at bat when it happens!
Yunel's Frosted Tips
October 13th, 2012
12:44 am
Capt. Mudd………I doubt Fredi would understand what he’s looking at if you sent him a copy…..
David O'Brien
October 13th, 2012
12:45 am
Misery loves company. The Cardinals have now dealt it to both the Braves and Nationals on consecutive Friday nights, both times on the road.
And if our resident expert hadn’t told me that clutch hitting didn’t exist, I would swear the Cardinals were good at it.